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Building Code Nerd
Pauline.Barrett
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 at 11:59 AMre: Building Code Nerd
Travis Grubbs
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 at 12:47 PMHi Pauline:
It is so good to hear from another Inspector! No matter what we find, it is always "our fault." We protect the public from hazards that they seldom see such as electrical fires, salmonella, etc. I also appreciate your attitude about living your life in spite of your diabetes.
Take care,
Travis
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Why was there a difference in the values recommended by...
Dr. Bill Quick
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 at 07:22 PMYou asked "Why was there a difference in the values recommended by my doctor, the ADA, and AACE?"
ADA and AACE have differing experts, and presumably they used different studies (plus their own experiences) to come up with their differing values.
Now, to the much harder question of why your doctor came up with a differing recommendation:
First, it's unclear if your physician is a full-fledged card carrying member of ADA, AACE, or both: if he/she is, and practices diabetes care as a larger portion of his/her practice, then I'd take the personalized recommendation of your physician over that of any faceless authority. On the other hand, if he/she is a GP caring for measles, mumps, anxiety, pregnancy, geezers, and STDs and dabbling in diabetes, I'd tend to discount the recommendaion.
Second, your physician's recommendation may be "graduated goal setting" (look that one up in Google!). If so, then as you find you can reach these goals, you should look at progressively more stringent goals. Like if you were starting training for a four-minute mile, you might be comfortable with doing the mile in 6 minutes (or six hours?) then as you succeed in that goal, establishing a more stringent goal for your next step...
Hope this helps...
Bill
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re: Why was there a difference in the values recommended by...
Travis Grubbs
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 at 07:24 PMDr. Bill:
My doctor is my GP. There is not an endo. within 50 miles of my location. I have yet to receive a favorable referral to one farther away. Due to me being told by my doctor, as well as other doctors (I can think of three), that the number of diabetes cases diagnosed can be tabulated not by the month, but by the week (we all now that type 2 diabetes is on the rise). I think that if I, a non-medical individual, were to state that GP's were "dabbling in diabetes" when treating their diabetic patients, that would be an insult. You, on the other hand, may be able qualified to make such a statement, but I believe that is an awfully broad statement. Especially for my area.
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does God play dice with diabetes?
frankenduf
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 at 05:10 PMas a wise woman once said, there is no science of the particular- that being the case, the differing standards are problematic, and likely confounded by research and politics- historically, the AACE would have the most stringent standards, following the dictum the lower the better (or euglycemia as the gold standard)- the secondary medical field standards would be more lenient or 'realistic' as the previous comment pointed out- but there is also research which hints that the lower the better is not always true- it may well turn out that too tight control for diabetics may have adverse effects- so while standards may govern the macro numbers, I think wisdom must govern the individual: maintaining weight, eating healthy, exercise, and a stable HgBA1C is probably the healthy profile for a diabetic lifestyle
re: does God play dice with diabetes?
Travis Grubbs
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 at 07:13 PMI have to agree with your reasoning. By following the standards set by my doctor, losing 45 pounds, and at least attempting some form of moderate exercise, I have maintained an A1C of 5.6 and my glucose average is 86. I have also kept the weight off that I lost. But, I still prefer goals, standards, etc. in black and white.
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As a Food Service Administrator (retired), I, too, look behind the doors (discreetly) of restaurants to see if there are any code violations, and have walked out when I see practices that may reflect on the wholesomeness of the product, such as 50# of food on the floor and employees licking their fingers or playing with their hair.
As for the numbers.... I agree we who have some degree of intelligence can figure out how to manage the disease and make optimum choices (most of the time), but for newbies the seriousness of the disease cannot be stressed enough when the organizations from which we are looking for support disagree.
I have been Type 2 for over 10 years, A1c of 5.5, am 66, and AM glucose was 94. I am looking for a "support" group that centers on living a full life where diabetes is in the background, not the center of attention.
Pauline Barrett,
Kent, WA