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Beth McNamara
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 12:22 PMre: Untitled Comment
Ann Bartlett
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 01:16 PMI agree with you! I still think discrimination will continue, but with more examples of success it should be easier to prove your case. Some of that discrimination is because of the lack of knowledge about the differences between type 1 and type 2 diabetes, management and long term health. Educating the public will be our greatest effort in changing the perception.
One thing that does not help us is when JDRF is quoted as talking about “immense complications” and the fact that “the average life expectancy for people with Type One is lowered by an average of ten years.” This is not helpful!
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practical hurdles
frankenduf
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 04:59 PMwell, ok- but don't be surprised if she's found smashing some pistacchios as she slams the gavel down in judgement- snacks may be necessitated during long trial sessions! -
Darn Muggles!
Ann Bartlett
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 06:03 PMI was waiting for the onslaught of diabetes management experts called the press! http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1900962,00.html?cnn=yes
In regard to symlin(pramlintide), she labels it "dips in blood glucose", but it's really used for postprandial highs after eating, meaning the high blood sugar not the low blood sugar!
Furthermore, the journalist says "Without enough naturally produced insulin, Type 1 diabetes patients must rely on an artificial source; some patients wear insulin pumps, which are permanently inserted under the skin to deliver a dose of the hormone after each meal or snack, while others self-administer regular insulin injections to sustain normal levels throughout the day."
Pumps are never permanent in any way!
This is so misleading the public and is hugely unfair! This journalist rushed to get her story and forgot the consequences this will have on those of us who live with the disease and work among the muggles(non diabetic folk), who will not know the inaccuracy of what she has said.
re: Darn Muggles!
Mary
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 07:50 PMI was astounded by that article. Are others judged because they have a family history of heart disease or cancer? Might they "live a shorter life" as a result? Hey, whatever starts the conversation and the education of others happening is fine with me. I think big steps can be achieved when people like Sotomayer are nominated to high profile positions.
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About time!
Anonymous
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 11:42 PMMy son was 10 years old when we found out that he had type 1 diebetes, his older brother is in the Army. Maybe my son would like to join one branch of the service, but we've been told that he wouldn't b e able to because he couldn't be combat ready. There are many jobs in the miliaty that he could do that doesn't invole combat and he would be capabale of doing.
Most of his life people have felt afraid of him because they didn't understand what to do to help him if he needed it, even tho we tried to explain it, from the baseball coaches to grand parents and even the school health nurse. He failed his 8th grade year and I had to defind my self in court because he missed to many days of school due to high blood sugars and not feeling well along with no trust (on both our parts) of the school health nurse.
Maybe this land mark dession will open doors for many more opportunities for other people!
re: About time!
Ann Bartlett
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 09:11 AMI'm so sorry for you and your son! I agree with you about the military being able to use him in areas unrelated to combat. You could also suggest to him that he look for a career as a consultant to the military. Often they are paid better and have just as much stability as those in service.
Tell your son, I've lived with diabetes 39 years and I had unwavering support to push my physical limits by my parents. This helped build the self confidence that I needed in other areas to learn how to deal with people who believed I should live in a glass bubble. There are few things he can't do and once he is in good control, they have no basis for concern!
Meet some friends of mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-PB25Ca9VI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xktDKk68dU&feature=channel
Your son has to realize the limits he faces could be those that are self imposed! If he doesn't manage his diabetes, the nay sayers win! As a teen he has so many opportunities ahead, I think he is missing out because he is not taking care of himself.
Last, check out Anna on Diabeteens. He has just as much potential as Anna. It's up to him! Diabeteens is full of support for him, if he'll make that decision to pull him self out of the diabetes box.
re: About time!
sbukosky
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 02:47 PMDon't get too excited. This is a nomination that has to pass the Senate. I didn't know she was diabetic until I read this article. There are some questions that have to be answered. Among them are her disregard for the constitution when it comes to the right to bear arms and a comment that can be considered racist and sexist. We don't want a justice that makes decision based on emotion and politics rather than what the Constitution says.
I'd be happier to see a diabetic in some Health and Human Relations position than being a political hack in the Supreme Court.
re: re: About time!
frankenduf
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 05:26 PMactually, i found her comment to be quite profound- she was essentially saying that a latina woman knows more about justice than a white man- the reason this is true is that, even if they both reach an exact accord on a just decision (which notably was NOT reached by the historical white male supreme court which supported oppression of women and segregation, until populist movements necessitated overturn), the latina woman will know it is just by her experience- the assertion is generally that an oppressed person will know more of justice because they have experienced oppression themselves
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Diabetes
Linda Carter
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 10:39 AMNo, as a type 2 diabetic and well controlled, I believe that as long as we take very good care of ourselves, Diabetes should not be held against us for employment reasons.
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age 30 and denied employment at least 3 times for type 1
bunnee
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 12:48 PMIn fact, it happened just yesterday again. My degree is in Electrical Eng. but have been told by 3 large companies in my area (after passing exams, interviews, physicals, etc.), that I would be unable to do the job because the DOT has a rule that if you are on insulin, you cant drive a commercial vehicle; and been told that I am unable to climb the ladders because of the risk of injury to myself. What a load of ...
re: age 30 and denied employment at least 3 times for type 1
Ann Bartlett
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 12:59 PMI couldn't agree more! That was the reason that Jeff Kapche was denied the law enforcement job in Texas, he was denied due to unfit to drive. You should consider contacting American Diabetes Association for help getting over that hurdle! This is what they do so well!
If you can prove your are under good management, I can't imagine after Jeff's case these companies are going to have much to fall back on!
Keep us posted!
re: age 30 and denied employment at least 3 times for type 1
sbukosky
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 02:42 PMIf that isn't grounds for a lawsuit, I don't know what is. I am in HVAC, drive many miles in my job and climb ladders frequently. Never ever has my diabetes interfered with doing my job. My son has been type one for nearly thirty years and I would trust him driving an 18 wheeler or flying a commercial plane. He is well under control. I used to be a pilot but due to prejudice of the government can no longer fly. I believe people should worry more about sleep apnea when it comes to driving than diabetes.
re: age 30 and denied employment at least 3 times for type 1
diabetes advocate
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Reality
Anonymous
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 02:09 PMI know I will be the odd man out here, but it's time for a reality check. I am a cancer survivor AND a diabetic. My hstory of cancer does not rule out jobs such as police, firemen and judicial positions. It does not affect my thinking or physical abilities, unless I have to do chemo again. On the other hand, my diabetes CAN affect my thinking and physical abilities. Before you get all up in arms, please consider this. How many of you have been in a situation where you really should have had a snack, but you pushed the limit because the meeting, church or whatever was almost over???? How many of you have made an unwise decision because your blood sugar was off and you didn't realise it until later???? If you are honest, MOST OF YOU HAVE!!!! I DO NOT want the fireman carrying me out of a burning building, the policeman with a gun OR a member of the MOST POWERFUL COURT in the United States to have unclear thinking!!!! The thing about diabetes is that in can happen to you, even if it never happened to you before! Some of you will immediately say, "It's the same thing ith a heart attack." Actually, it isn't the sameat all. First, a heart attack is immediately obvious. Second, it is more likely for a diabetic to get fuzzy thinking than for a person with no history of heart attacks to have one. Wake up, people! We're talking safety here, not unfair discrimination!
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Diabetes has no effect on judicial ablilites.
sbukosky
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 02:35 PMI would not have thought the subject of diabetes would even come up in the discussion of her suitability for the Supreme Court seat. Let the record be considered, not the health of the person unless it interferes with cognition. Diabetes certainly does not.
re: Diabetes has no effect on judicial ablilites.
Ann Bartlett
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 03:49 PMWell said!
How many times have we read about people making fatal mistakes due to fatigue? And my question what happens when the court has to deal with someone who is ill with something significant like cancer and is going through treatment for it. Judges who are medication for other diseases or illnesses may experience impairment. Why should their cases not come under scrutiny as well?
And maybe another question is whether Supreme Court justices can make the determination for how long they remain on the bench. Should their health decline, it is left up to them to decide. Should it be?
re: re: Diabetes has no effect on judicial ablilites.
BEE
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 07:02 PMre: re: re: Diabetes has no effect on judicial ablilites.
Ann Bartlett
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 07:46 PMExactly!! I'm not saying they should do anything about the criteria that is in place. I'm just throwing out other issues that come and asking "If we are looking at Diabetes, what about this problem?"
I just want to equal opportunity where deserved! And in this case, I believe she has proved she has control over her disease and she is in good health, so the Senate, and non diabetic public, should base their decision on her judicial ability and not on her diabetes.
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Teressa
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 08:05 PMUntil reading this article I had no idea that idea that type 1 diabetics were discriminated against like in the articles and the comments. I am a type 2 but I have been unable to work because of a two brain surgeries (removed a brain tumor and then the second for fluid) and as my husband puts it, the baggage, that came after. That was when I was diagnosed type 2. I read the comments both pro and con, each had some very good points. I feel that if you have your diabetes under control, truly under control, there should be no reason why you can't hold down whatever job or activity you want.
But as the one writer said we all have our unexpected moments of not feeling up to par, and sometimes that can affect how you think or act. The first time I went to a new doctor I was told he would be giving me a fasting blood test, it was after lunch, I almost pasted out in the doctor's office because I had not ate. Before he could examine me, he had to give me crackers and orange juice. That was my mistake, but it could happen to anyone.
I still can't understand about driving if you have an insulin pump or on insulin. This just seems like people finding an excuse not to hire someone.
About the military, what you can't be a diabetic 1 in the military, BUT, you can go to some foreign land and die from a bullit or bomb ( and that happens how many times in recent days)
I enjoyed your very informative (to me, at least) article.
re: Untitled Comment
Ann Bartlett
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 08:34 PMTeressa!
thank you for your very thoughtful and well stated comments!
I think for many of us, who live with diabetes, it is never an issue. I would never have thought to bring it up in an job interview. Of course, I was never going for a commercial airline pilot, or something that required a medical exam, but I, too, was blind to discrimination until a few years ago when I started to hear of more people struggling to get a job and I had one person who called me because he was fired after being accused of becoming violent when he had a low blood sugar. Lack of education and lack of communication to his coworkers on resulted in an ugly situation.
To your point that if someone is very well controlled, who is to set the boundaries without knowing the persons limitations. Why not take the risk on someone who could turn out to be a great hire? Often it is win win! The employer gets a great employee and the employee has the motivation to work at staying in control because they love what they do!
Well now that we are all awake to the issue, maybe we can help the public understand more about diabetes!
Again, I'm grateful for your comments and compliment!

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Judge Sotomayer
Tracy
Wednesday, June 10, 2009 at 10:03 PMThis situation is a tough one. While I strongly believe that no one should be discriminated against for any reason regarding a job offer it does seem reasonable to me to review someone's chronic health condition as a prerequisite to employment. It seems like a win-win situation. If the employer knows about it they can set more realistic expectations and help protect the individual in case of an emergency situtation. As the employee you can rest assured knowing that you were hired in spite of your condition and I know that would help me push harder to prove myself in that position.
After having gone through many tough times myself in the job market I have learned that no one seems to know the answer to many questions when it comes to diabetes in the workplace. In fact, living in a right to work state I am not aware that an employee has many rights when it comes to a company firing someone and even if you do how would you prove that you were discriminated against. The company could say anything it wants and there is a good chance it would stand up in court.
I would love to read or hear knowledgable comments on this if anyone out there knows something. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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These two events (the Sotomayor nomination and the Kapche ruling) mark at least large cracks in that proverbial ceiling. Let us hope that this now means that more often than not diabetics will be evaluated only on their merits for a position instead of first being eliminated because of their condition.