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Genital Herpes and Yeast Infections

Penelope James

Penelope James

Thursday, October 02, 2008
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Long before I ever contracted herpes I often fell victim to yeast infections.  At first I blamed it on my active aquatic lifestyle, which included swimming and surfing.  Other times I’d blame it on my diet, which, although not poor, could always be improved on.  More recently I...
  1. Sex as a trigger for outbreaks and yeast infection onsets?
    Angie
    Friday, October 17, 2008 at 06:42 PM

    I feel for the pain you describe with concurrent herpes and yeast infections.  I, unfortunately seem to experience one or the other, and my question to you is if you can pinpoint sexual activity to be a trigger for the onset of either outbreak?

     

    I am noticing after continuous sexual activity, continuous as in days in a row, or more frequency that at other times, that is when i experience the onset....I have often had this be "coincidental" with any use of fingers near my genital area (even when I have INSISTED that only clean hands touch me)

     

    I am not finding any data to support this, so i'm at a loss how to prevent this other than closing up shop on my sex life!

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    re: Sex as a trigger for outbreaks and yeast infection onset
    Penelope James
    Monday, October 27, 2008 at 03:43 PM

    Hi Angie,

     

    Thanks for your response.  Though I don't put all the blame on sex, I do think that sex definitely exacerbates any genital health problems.  

     

    In terms of herpes, I think having sex for longer periods of time, or not having enough lubricant, could cause irritation and, consequently, an outbreak.  However, I used to notice I'd get outbreaks simply after having an orgasm, even after masturbating.  I don't know the science behind it, and maybe there's not much research out there, but, for whatever reason, bringing attention to that part of the body can be troublesome if you're prone to outbreaks like me.  It's a real bummer, I know.  That's why I resorted back to taking anti-virals on a daily basis.  I've also cut out foods that seem to trigger outbreaks, like coffee and sugar.

     

    As for yeast infections, I'm sure sex, especially with a new partner, would help bring one on.  The exchange of bacteria can easily throw off the chemical balance on your genitals.  To try and prevent yeast infections, I use condoms as often as possible, even with committed partners, and I take probiotics, like Acidophilus, daily.  Avoiding sugar and sweets is also a good idea.

     

    Us women are a little disadvantaged in that we're so much more susceptible to these kinds of things, due to our anatomy.  I regularly eat yogurt and drink cranberry juice to promote good health down there.  I don't think the answer is to stop having sex, though I know exactly how you feel.  We just have to be a little more careful with our bodies and get lots of sleep.

     

    So, yes, I do think sex can trigger these problems.  But I struggle with them when I'm not sexually active as well.  So, instead of cutting out sex, I'm trying to modify my lifestyle and routine to be more healthy.  

     

    Let me know if you come up with any solutions from your own experience.

     

    PJ

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    re: re: Sex as a trigger for outbreaks and yeast infection onset
    Angie
    Monday, October 27, 2008 at 04:35 PM

    Thank you so much for sharing your experience. i do try to keep yogurt in my diet as i know that wards off yeast infections.  Maybe it really is just having activity there sends things reeling about and thus causes our "troubles" to flare up.  Although I don't suffer from frequent outbreaks (i went 18 years without one and then experienced 3 in 4 months!) i do also suffer from hemorroids, so there is an absolute posibility that i could have a yeast infection, a herpes sore and a hemorroidal flare up simultaneously.  Let's suffice it to say those are not bright days in my life.

     

    Reading up on all the pills,  lotion and potions out there, and by my ob/gyn recommendation, i'm trying something call RePhresh that is supposed to not only balance the PH of the vagina, but to enhance lubrication (the 2 things you and i both know make matters worse.)  i'm hoping that will give some relief.

     

    Also, much because of the hemorroids, i use flushable wet wipes when i use the bathroom, and since moisture is a component of infection, i am careful to dry the areas thoroughly so no moisture is trapped.  Lastly, I have all but given up my lace thong panties that I  love......having a source of "friction" in that area is just one more thing to fuel the fire.....so i'm trying to get back into bikini panties, but hate the panty lines...ugh.

     

    I'd also be curious to know what daily anti-viral you are taking?  i had my doctor prescribe a generically available pill for outbreaks (not Valtrex, it doesn't have generic) and was told i only needed to take it if i have an outbreak since i don't have them often.

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    re: Sex as a trigger for outbreaks and yeast infections
    Penelope James
    Monday, October 27, 2008 at 04:53 PM

    Hi Angie,

     

    I know exactly how you feel about giving up thong underwear!  I used to wear them all the time and after getting hemorrhoids (are we long lost sisters, or what?) and then herpes (mostly outbreaks near my anus) I had to give them up.  Well, I wear them for special occasions when I REALLY don't want my panty lines to show.  Now I always hope I'll only meet guys who like boy shorts undies ;-) since those are the most comfortable for me.  

     

    Thanks for your input and experience.  How long have you been using RePhresh?  Have you found it helpful at all?  Is it prescribed or over-the-counter?

     

    I am taking Acyclovir.  It's the cheapest herpes drug that I'm aware of, but it works well for me.  Without it I get outbreaks about every 2 weeks...awful.  Since I went back on suppressive therapy about 3 months ago, I've only had one outbreak (and a couple failed attempts that I fought off).  

     

    Have you tried any alternative medicine besides yogurt?  I wrote a SharePost called Herpes and Nutrition that you may want to check out.  Also, there's more information on the Treatment page.  

     

    And one more thing, I'm always surprised to know that a lot of my girl friends sleep in their undies.  I've never done that as my mom raised me to always sleep without them.  What about you?  Do you wear underpants to bed or do you let your stuff breathe?  That may help keep the area dry.  Just a thought.  

     

    PJ 

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    re: re: Sex as a trigger for outbreaks and yeast infections
    Angie
    Monday, October 27, 2008 at 05:10 PM

    Penelope, i'm not happy to hear about your unfortunate anal situation, but GEEZ, i thought I was the only one in the world suffering from all of this....makes a girl feel like a total freakoid!  I've been doing alot of reading on the Hemorroid sites too for some relief ideas.  If you haven't tried Nupercainal yet, GET IT. It OTC, it's analgesic for the pain, and shrinks swelling and relieves itching.  best stuff out there i promise.

     

    I have just started the rePhresh and since i haven't had sex yet since my recent traumatic crotch situation, i don't know if makesa difference yet.  it is OTC, a little pricey but well worth it if it helps!

     

    I do not sleep in panties...forgot to mention that as one of my tricks to help too.  Also becoming a lover of boy shorts.....i'll smile when i think about how much i have in common with a total stranger. but you've made me feel so much more at ease! thank you...i love this site!

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  2. THANK YOU!
    Anonymous
    Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    I was beginning to think I was going crazy or doing something wrong.  I have had the same problem ever since I was diagnosed with Herpes two years ago. Thank you for sharing your insight, now I know that I am not alone. But boy to I feel your pain! 

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    Peaches
    Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 07:17 PM

    Thank-You. I have read so much and it took reading this to finally feel like I'm not alone.

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    Penelope James
    Wednesday, November 26, 2008 at 07:59 PM

    Thanks for all the positive feedback, I'm glad I could help.  When I started writing about this, I also thought maybe I was alone.  Just shows how good it is to communicate about this stuff.  

     

     

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  5. Yup! All I can say its that I am in the same boat!
    Sam
    Friday, January 09, 2009 at 02:32 PM

    I would get yeast infections frequently before, especially when I did any of the things that promote yeast growth, but now ever since my body contracted herpes I just feel so out of whack down there.  Even more so, these days.  Its unbearable.  The yeast infections are so strong that only one type of medication works ( nyastatin vaginal inserts). There is an alkaline solution that balances the ph levels in one's blood by matol, I buy it in liquid form. I also take acidophillus at nite and in the morning ( 2 tablespoons each time). I try to watch my sugar intake and white flour intake.  I try. Its so overwhelming.  I also believe that condoms help a lot with tons of water based lubricant with no flavor whatsoever.  Also, white cotton panties, skirts, nothing wet down there, letting it breath down there. I can't really wax anymore. I used to but, my first genital herpes outbrake left me with nerve damaged as it was in the inner lips of my genitalia.  I have a condition called post-herpetic neuralgia for which I take anticonvulsants for the constant pain down there.  I am just so scared and kind of paranoid all of the time that any little itch could be yeast you know.  I take valtrex 1 gram suppressive everyday.  I also take antianxiety meds /antidepressants/ anti ocd all in one little lexapro pill  for the pain with the neuralgia too.  I was constantly obsessing with the itch I feel down there.  My body just doesn't seem normal since all of this started.  My ph was so out of balance.  But then I started loosing so much weigh, that one of my gyn doctors said I needed to eat fruits,  vegetables and multigrain.  I was getting really paranoid with all sugar and carbohydrate intakes, that's why I lost so much weigh.  I forgot to mention, I also suffer from a dermatitis condition in my genitalia called lichen symplex chonicus.  Sometimes, I wonder if I will ever have a normal sex life ever again or if I will even have children. Its so upsetting for me. Not just the physical pain, but the psychological implications of all of this. I believed I ve had herpes for a year. A year of constant yeast infections back to back ( now I think it could have been the antibodies of herpes changing the ph of my vagina).  Ironically enough, I was only diagnosed 3 months ago when I saw a herpes sore in my inner labia. I see two gyn doctors on a monthly basis.  I have a therapist and a psychiatrist thank God. I also pray a lot. The antianxiety medication was necessary cause I could not relax about any of this.  If anybody has any more ideas, please send me a message. I would truly appreciate it. I just got diagnosed 3 months ago and this hasnt been easy for me.   

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  6. Very helpful!
    Anonymous
    Sunday, February 01, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    I am in the same boat as you, I have suffered from yeast infections my whole adult life. The Dr. says I am too clean down there, I need to stop washing so hard. I guess I wash away the good bacteria too! I was diagnosed with HSV this summer and now I have a hard time telling what my problem is. What you have said is right on point and helpful to those experiencing the same problems. Thanks!!

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    Anonymous
    Wednesday, September 02, 2009 at 10:02 PM

    Also, don't use antibiotic soap on your genitals. They destroy good bacteria. Use Dove hypoallergenic bar soap.

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  7. Thank you.
    Anonymous
    Monday, July 20, 2009 at 02:41 AM

    This article has given me some comfort, especially by comparing the symtoms of each condition. I've got itchy swelling "blister like" growths under the mushroom edge of my penis. I'm circumsized... anyway, I'm still a bit worried but this article has helped alot by explaining the difference between herpes and a yeast infection (which is what I think I've got from my girlfriend)... mainly those differences are the fever and flu-like symtoms for herpes and that those don't show with a yeast infection. Another difference is the spreading pattern between the two. Herpes tends to be centralized and yeast infections from what I'm understanding can be more disbursed. My rashes or whatever they are are spread out a bit more, but still like I said, I want a second opinion from a test..

    My story is that about 8 months ago I was having sexual relations and my girl was drunk and sraped my dick with her teeth when we finally got into bed! It took a week for the scabs to finally go away, but for a couple days it hurt in the shower cause she really got into a couple layers of skin. She a great cock sucker, but hey she was F'D up drunk. So anyway, my theory about these symtoms on my dick are that because the scars or "wounds" from that cock sucking event were just under the mushroom tip they didn't heal all together because it stays moist in that area of the penis, sooo, my current girlfriends yeast infection probably spread into that vulnerable area and voila, I have a horrible monster-lookin fungus jungle on God's personally delivered gift to me, the male with a dick and a story to tell about it. Haha.

    Another thing is that the yeast infections can be in a more moist area and herpes can be pretty much anywhere so I seem to have odds favoring a yeast infection. For those of you who don't seem to have those odds; Dude, I am soo sorry. But hey there're treatments that work!

    Allrighty, that's it. Nice article Mr. Article Writer! Thanks, bye!

    PS - I'm not crazy, I'm just American-smart. Which is admittedly an oxy-moron in too many cases.

     

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    Anonymous
    Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 09:33 PM

    This is the first website that I have read that has actually calmed my nerves - as everyone has said, it's nice to know I'm not alone (although I am very sorry that any of us have to deal with this crap! But, we're stronger for it).

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