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Tuesday, February 08, 2011 Ashley Mckendry asks

Q: PLEASE HELP!!! My new husband was diagnosed with genital herpes

My new husband was diagnosed with genital herpes HSV2 a few months ago. He then 'remembered' that he had several 'outbreak's' beginning with 10 years ago. Then he said he had only had symptoms after he met me and that I was the one who gave it to him.

 

Since then we have been unable to get along at all. He said that he didn't know he had it and that he has been faithful. And I believe him when he says that he is faithful but how could he not have known? If he had symptoms so painful enough to go to the Dr with swelling, sores and back pain, how could he not have known he had SOMETHING? He says his outbreaks were so bad he thought he had a hernia.

 

I have had 3 tests and all have come back negative. That is the only reason that i'm ok at this point. If I have been infected with the virus, could it lie dormant enough that a specific test would not be able to confirm it? Even if my tests are negative, will i have an outbreak later in time?

 

Since then our sex life has come to a halt. I have done so much research on this virus and I know the statistics, the facts, the myths, spoken to Dr''s, therapsts, std counselors and still I can not bring myself to have unprotected sex with my husband. Especially now that we were planning to get pregnant. I dont' want to risk getting the virus at this time or anytime near me trying to get pregnant.


I have agreed to have complete protected sex with him and find alternatives to getting pregnant, but he refuses. We were wanting to get pregnant and I can't imagine what would have happened if I had contracted it while pregnant.

 

He says that he wont' stay married to me unless I have unprotected sex with him. He believes that i don't love him enough!!! I do love him! Our marriage is almost lost here!!! I'm feeling really cheated here, bcs i'm not the one who brought this disease into our life. I told him I would accept him like this but not put myself at risk in the first years trying to get pregnant.

 

He was negligent by not continuing to seek treatment or a diagnosis for his condition when he had it, which in turn put me, our future pregnancies and my health at risk.

 

I'm so angry, frustrated, and hurt. My marriage is falling apart and he feels so indignant, making me out to be the one who is creating this mess. I am totally devastated and he feels rejected by me. 

 

I totally understand that we both have a right to live the kind of life we want and feel the way we do and make personal decisions including the consequences. It's just a difficult situation. This in turn has brought other issues between us to light and has amplified our previous problems.

 

He's basically asking me to give in and have unprotected sex with him and if I get then it's no big deal. TO HIM! It's a big deal to me to say YES to a virus that I will have to deal with for the rest of my life and possibly cause harm to my future pregnancies. I can not take that take risk.

 

QUESTIONS, any replies are greatly appreciated!!! I'm looking for resolutions, i'm coming with an open heart. I love my husband, I hate the situation. I'm searching to make a positive out of this negative situation where we are not hurting one another.

 

Are there any non-infected persons who have been sexually active with thier HSV2 infected partners for more than several years? What has been your experience? How did you overcome it? Do you have un-protected sex? What protection do you use?

 

Any new pregnant Moms to be that were infected while pregnant...? Did you have complications? How did it affect your baby, if at all? Did you have cesearean or vaginal delivery? Post pregnancy issues, problems? Did you take anti-virals while pregnant? How did the anti-virals affect the health of your baby?

 

PLEASE HELP!!!!

 

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2/ 9/11 5:24pm

Several years ago I was completely blind sighted and devastated when I was infected with genital herpes during the second year of a relationship with a physician. We had spent several months getting to know one another prior to starting a sexual relationship in which he assured me that he had no STDs. From the moment he infected me, I experienced continuous anxiety not knowing what else he was hiding from me. Trust me, no therapist can fix betrayal. The relationship ended from lack of trust. He apologized believing he could not infect a partner with asymptomatic herpes despite articles in the Journal American Medical Association and the New York Times in the early 2000s stating otherwise; he subscribed to both. In hindsight, I feel that he was too embarrassed to tell me or he didn't care (he has had multiple relationships since). Unfortunately, I have other health issues caused by herpes and still live with monthly outbreaks of 10 days even on acyclovir. It is expensive to treat even with medical insurance. I didn't pursue taking civil action for damages; nor did my partner offer amends.

Like your husband, he initially tried to convince me that I had it all along without realizing it. My initial blood test (takes six weeks to show up) were negative. He also felt exonerated by saying that we were in a committed relationship so it didn't matter-- a soul mate doesn't behave this way. An infected partner has a moral responsible to disclose herpes before starting a relationship, especially if they want a relationship based on honesty and trust. If your blood tests are consistently negative, you are not infected with the virus, at least yet. Usually, your first outbreak is pretty bad-- I had meningitus and sores that took a month to heal. I couldn't urinate without squirting water in the infected areas.

According to an article in the New York Times, http://consults.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/18/giving-your-partner-herpes/, a condom alone is roughly 30% effective. Antiviral drugs alone are roughly 49% effective. The only way to avoid herpes is to avoid sexual contact with an infected partner.  Herpes comes with life- long issues and takes years to accept the consequences of living with herpes (I haven't yet). Personally, I believe both partners should discuss these issues together with a knowledgeable treating physician before having sex for best results.  I also believe infected partners have to accept that it's inappropriate to tell uninfected partners that if you love me, it wouldn't matter or herpes is no big deal. Having it, I can tell you this: it is. If they loved you, they wouldn't want you to have herpes. I wouldn't have a sexual relationship with an uninfected partner. With outbreaks every month and other issues caused by herpes, I'm no longer able to have any sexual relationship (I enjoyed it very much). Fortunately, I have an adult daughter from a prior marriage and didn't have to live with this anxiety during a pregnancy.

I really wish that the person who infected me had care enough about me to protect me from being infected. Gambling with someone's health via Russian roulette is not acceptable behavior. A responsible person infected with herpes, doesn't "sugar coat" it. Your feelings are totally legitimate, however, it appears that your partner may be too self centered to validate them; or he is hiding more things from you that you are currently unaware of. The herpes albeit a very serious one, is a power struggle. Where there are power struggles, there are lies.

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5/26/11 2:51am

"WHERE THERE ARE POWER STRUGGLES, THERE ARE LIES"

 

Your story has really resonated with me. I felt blind-sided as well. My Husband LIED TO ME by keeping this type of virus a secret from me. Had he been HONEST and given me the opportunity to choose, I think I would have felt differently. I have a hard time understanding why he would think that it would be ok for me to get this horrible disease that is a life long, life altering disease.

 

I have 2 girlfriends who have had hysterectomy's (32 & 37 both wanted children) due to complications, infections, painful herpes outbreaks. 1 girlfriend who contracted Herpes during her pregnancy and lost her baby at almost 5 months. She is inconsolable.

 

It is absolutely unfathomable that DOCTORS would continue the MYTH that herpes is not as contagious as it's made out to be... then why the EPIDEMIC??? How is it not contagious but so many people have it??? How is it not contagious when there is no outbreak, YET people still get it???

 

I have visited and met with several doctors who have told me to just go home and have unprotected sex with my husband and not to worry about it. Only ONE Doctor has told me the truth, that I have already been exposed to the virus and that eventually I would contract it at some point if I were to continue to have sex with my husband, even WITHOUT outbreaks and protection!!!!  People get herpes when there are NO OUTBREAKS!!!!

 

My Husband is selfish and arrogant. He's filing for divorce bcs I want to have protected sex with him. Ultimately he chose to divorce me and break up our marriage so that he can find another woman to have unprotected sex with bcs he thinks that he will not transmit it.

 

In the end i'm thankful that the worse I've rcvd from him is a broken heart. Knowing that my Husband who I trusted and thought would want to protect me from anything in the world, chose not to, and told me how wrong I was for choosing to protect my health.

 

I'm sorry that you have to suffer the pains of outbreaks!!! Did you ever think of suing him? Thank you for sharing your honest story. No one I have spoken to that has contracted GH has ever said anything positive about it.

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3/11/11 12:37pm

Dear Ashley,

 

 

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3/11/11 12:54pm

Sorry I pushed enter by accident before replying...

 

In response to you situation I would like to say just a few things.

 

Similarly to your husbands claim, I actually did experience a suden outbreak of herpes 4 months into a new relationship with a man who did not have the virus. I was devestated and had no idea who I got itfrom since I have been very careful about who I sleep with for the last several years and couldn't imagine who I was with that I wouldn't have noticed. My only partners were my ex-fiance and my new current boyfriend with the exception of one fling some years back with an old boyfriend. My point is, knowing myself and that I had not been with anyone but my current boyfriend when I started showing symptoms of herpes (on my back for some reason, but not Shingles as it came back again later), I was very scared. At first I thought that maybe my current boyfriend had cheated on me or that he had had it and was unaware. He tested clean for it to which eased my mind. The fact still remained however that I had herpes and didn't understand how I could suddenly just get it. I was told that when you first contract herpes it is possible for it to lay dormant for as much as a few years before you show any symptoms. I now know that before my outbreaks I will experience numbness in my right leg around the thigh area and it hurts when it is touched. NOW this is followed by an outbreak right above my butt (which also makes no sense since I did not ever engage in anal sex). Previously to having outbreaks of the actual sores, I had been having problems with my leg getting number for at least a year, and nobody could tell me why. Bottom line is he may be telling the truth about not knowing that he had it. It happened to me.

 

In regards to unprotected sex and trying to concieve a child, the child will be at no risk if you do not take any perscription drugs for the virus while pregnant and if you have a c section. Otherwise vaginal delivery is risky and the virus can be transfered to the baby if you are having an outbreak or are about to have one. I know this because I have spoken to my doctor about it.

 

The only remaining issue is your willingness to contract the virus from your husband. If you love him and plan on staying with him, as a wife both emotionally, physically (and sexually), chances are you will eventually also contract the virus. This is not to say that you should HAVE to, if you can't handle the idea of ever having it yourself, then you may want to reconsider your marraige. There is no gentle way of saying that... it is true that condoms and even preventative medications will only prevent other people from catching the virus from a carrier to a certain degree, after which there is not much that can be done. You can be sure to refrain from sex during breakouts, and to request that he seek a preventative method such as Valtrex (which I use and is effective yet costly).

 

The truth about herpes is that 1 out of every 4 women have it. It is not uncommon. Especially in younger generations now. It is ultimately no risk to your overall health. It is an ugly word attached to a dirty stigma that likely will never fade. But in the end all it is is coldsores on your genitalia. They're not always there. Painful, yes. Life altering, yes. Is it the end of the world? No.

 

Lastly, my boyfriend and I are still together after over a year. I have only known that I had herpes for the last 8 months. For the first four we were having unprotected sex all the time, I was on a very effective form of birth control (Mirena) so why wouldn't we? He never got it. He still doesn't have it and we continue to have a very productive sex life including oral sex. At first this was all very hard for me to accept, I cried about it all the time and didn't want him to touch me, I did not even pleasure myself, nor did I feel the urge to for months. He assures me that he loves me and supports me no matter what, and that has made this whole thing much easier on us both. If you do catch it, which I realize is not ideal, it's not the worst thing that could happen. What's worse, losing your husband? Or getting herpes...? The decision is obviously yours and I hope it all works out for you. I hope that something in this little rant has helped you... good luck with everything.

 

Kind Regards,

 

MS

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4/10/11 11:49pm

Counselor of HerpesFish.com said If he had outbreaks before, that means he has the virus and it will never gone but can be dormant for years. If your blood test result is negative, how can you transmit the virus to him. The post possibility is he has herpes before and was dormant for long time. Now he is having another outbreak for some reasons, such as his weaker immune system, high pressures and so on.

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5/ 8/11 7:06pm

Hi, my story is very similar to yours except myhusband was told to tell his partner or spouse he was infected and inspite of outrbreaks he hid it from me for years until I was pregnant and miscarried at 4 months...only to discover it was due to Herpes...from HIM. I said nothing to him to let him know I knew and I read back through 20 years of medical history to find the 'diagnosis' of his unfaithfulness to me three years ago. . . while in the UK.  All I can say is that I believe that my exposure to herpes (and hepaitis) did cause me to have the miscarriage.  And my GYN in light of my spouses lies and denial of having herpes and hepc (even though I have the records to prove it) she has done a full specturm STD panel on me. The odds of me having atleast herpes she said is very high. . . becasue I was (unknowingly not so ) in a healthy marriage and enjoyed sex with my spouse. Good luck. I am right there with you trying to decide what to do. We have older children to for me to think about. I found a article I will paste a clip of here. It is good information on men who lie about herpes and what you have to look forward to.  I'm not syaing divorce becasue that is a very personal decision and I myself am still trying to figure this out: 

 

 

Several years ago I was completely blind sighted and devastated when I was infected with genital herpes during the second year of a relationship with a physician. We had spent several months getting to know one another prior to starting a sexual relationship in which he assured me that he had no STDs. From the moment he infected me, I experienced continuous anxiety not knowing what else he was hiding from me. Trust me, no therapist can fix betrayal. The relationship ended from lack of trust. He apologized believing he could not infect a partner with asymptomatic herpes despite articles in the Journal American Medical Association and the New York Times in the early 2000s stating otherwise; he subscribed to both. In hindsight, I feel that he was too embarrassed to tell me or he didn't care (he has had multiple relationships since). Unfortunately, I have other health issues caused by herpes and still live with monthly outbreaks of 10 days even on acyclovir. It is expensive to treat even with medical insurance. I didn't pursue taking civil action for damages; nor did my partner offer amends.

Like your husband, he initially tried to convince me that I had it all along without realizing it. My initial blood test (takes six weeks to show up) were negative. He also felt exonerated by saying that we were in a committed relationship so it didn't matter-- a soul mate doesn't behave this way. An infected partner has a moral responsible to disclose herpes before starting a relationship, especially if they want a relationship based on honesty and trust. If your blood tests are consistently negative, you are not infected with the virus, at least yet. Usually, your first outbreak is pretty bad-- I had meningitus and sores that took a month to heal. I couldn't urinate without squirting water in the infected areas.

According to an article in the New York Times, http://consults.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/18/giving-your-partner-herpes/, a condom alone is roughly 30% effective. Antiviral drugs alone are roughly 49% effective. The only way to avoid herpes is to avoid sexual contact with an infected partner. Herpes comes with life- long issues and takes years to accept the consequences of living with herpes (I haven't yet). Personally, I believe both partners should discuss these issues together with a knowledgeable treating physician before having sex for best results. I also believe infected partners have to accept that it's inappropriate to tell uninfected partners that if you love me, it wouldn't matter or herpes is no big deal. Having it, I can tell you this: it is. If they loved you, they wouldn't want you to have herpes. I wouldn't have a sexual relationship with an uninfected partner. With outbreaks every month and other issues caused by herpes, I'm no longer able to have any sexual relationship (I enjoyed it very much). Fortunately, I have an adult daughter from a prior marriage and didn't have to live with this anxiety during a pregnancy.

I really wish that the person who infected me had care enough about me to protect me from being infected. Gambling with someone's health via Russian roulette is not acceptable behavior. A responsible person infected with herpes, doesn't "sugar coat" it. Your feelings are totally legitimate, however, it appears that your partner may be too self centered to validate them; or he is hiding more things from you that you are currently unaware of. The herpes albeit a very serious one, is a power struggle. Where there are power struggles, there are lies.

 

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5/29/11 11:11pm

Hello doll. I feel your pain. I truly believe my husband gave me GH however he never would admit it. That was 10 yrs ago and i have not had an outbreak since. I have had a healthy baby boy who is now 5.

 

Hope this helps a little.

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6/ 2/11 8:54pm

Thank you for posting. So happy to hear that you have a healthy baby. I do realize that there are many people who don't have outbreaks at all or very rarely. What scared me about this virus was the other end of the spectrum.  The people who have outbreaks, sometimes continously. I do have a girlfriend who suffers from frequent outbreaks and it's unbearable to watch.

 

So my unwillingness to expose my body to this disease and find alternative ways to get pregnant was too much for my husband. He's filing for divorce.

 

 

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