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Omega-3 Index: A New Factor in the Fish Oil Phenomenon

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It seems each passing year adds another new chapter in the story of the fish oil phenomenon.  The keen interest in the heart-healthy effects of fish oil began in earnest shortly after publication of the Italian GISSI Prevenzione Trial involving over 11,000 participants.  It demonstrated tha...
  1. Omega 3
    zoe ashcraft
    Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 05:32 PM

    Hi,

     

    I'm so happy to hear about your good results with the Omega 3 Oil Supplements! That's great-

     

    We recently became sellers of such a product (our family members signed us up) and I was wondering if you've heard of it or could comment on it- I'm pretty sure they claim to have the best and the highest level of absorbability, ect. But I haven't done any research.The product is called MOXXOR- ever heard of it?

     

    I also have a question though- have you hear about any inherent risks involved in taking the omega 3's? I had started off at a high level- and was having either a reaction to the oil or the antibiotic I was taking that was causing me to have small bleeding problems in several areas of my body.

     

    I have connective tissue, collagen disorder issues and a bleeding tendency that is triggered by any blood thinners- other than that, I don't really understand my bleeding tendency.

     

    Thoughts?

    Thanks,

    zoe

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  2. Omega 3 Fish Oil Capsules
    Petite Choux
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 03:27 PM

    So according to you, how much is the correct amount to maintain a good healthy Omega 3 level? I was told 3,000 mgs a day. So here I go, buying bottles of 1,000 mg Omega 3. Reading the bottle today, I have noticed only 300 total Omega 3 fatty acids including EPA and DHA from Natural Fish oil concentrate totalling 1000 mg. Directions say take one 3 times daily. It also contains 5 mg cholesterol, so that's 15 mgs a day which is kind of high if you eat other foods that might contain some cholesterol.

     

    The fish oil interferes with my IBS and I get attacks when I take even one a day, so I hardly take these at all. They do help with my daughter's psoriasis which is an added benefit to the family. However, it keeps her in the bathroom also. 

     

    Is there any other recommendation you have? We eat fish-salmon, tuna, flounder, talapia, ocean perch, mahi mahi, any fish we can get that's wild caught, except catfish!  However, we can't always afford to buy fish once a week. We do try though.


    Thank you.

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    re: Omega 3 Fish Oil Capsules
    awakeinwa
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 03:39 PM

    try neuromin. they're algae based omega-3s (DHA only). Or wild alaskan salmon oil @ costco. they're DHA, EPA, DPA, astaxanthin and has a complete fatty acid profile becausse they're not distillated. They both have high absorption because the DHA (and EPA) is intact in the original phopholipid matrix for a complete fatty acid profile.

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    re: re: Omega 3 Fish Oil Capsules
    Petite Choux
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 04:03 PM

    Oh thank you! I wonder if they're available in a health food store, because I don't have a Costco near me. (*x@#) However I have 4 health food stores within a mile of each other. I think I'll see if they have the Wild Alaskan Salmon Oil. I have to be careful because I take a lot of heart medicine.

     

    Thank you again. You are a blessing.

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    re: re: re: Omega 3 Fish Oil Capsules
    awakeinwa
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 04:20 PM

    You should be on the lookout for "true" wild salmon oil. That means the capsules should be pink in color, meaning the astaxanthin and fatty acids have not been stripped out in distillation. http://naturalalaskasalmonoil.com/ is the sort they sell at Costco.

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    re: re: re: re: Omega 3 Fish Oil Capsules
    Petite Choux
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 06:28 PM

    Well $36 a bottle is a little high for me. I found some at Kroger pharmacy for $10.97/BOGO. It was cold pressed 100% pure Salmon Oil, 1000 mgs. Take twice a day. Had 400 mgs EPA/DHA and contained only salmon, plus what the capsules were made of (gelatin, glycerine).  Does that sound ok? It said Natural.

     

    However, I will have to wait and see if I can get that next week.

     

     I guess it won't hurt to try it first and see what happens.

     

     

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    re: re: re: re: re: Omega 3 Fish Oil Capsules
    Petite Choux
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 06:32 PM

    I use this for triglycerides, so according to the site you gave it's less than 400 mgs (250 mgs) so I would have to take 8-16 gels a day! I can't even stomach taking my other meds (12 a day)... I can't add 16 more! Cry

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    re: re: re: re: re: Omega 3 Fish Oil Capsules
    awakeinwa
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 07:27 PM

    if you're going to take omega-3s and aren't certain if it's complete, just be sure to take it with healthy fats so it can bind and get better absorbed. Milk does it for me. If you get fish burps, that means it didn't get digested. Otherwise, that helps boost the absorption level a bit and you should be able to feel the difference.

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    re: re: re: re: re: re: Omega 3 Fish Oil Capsules
    Petite Choux
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM

    Thanks I appreciate all your help. :)

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  3. High Dose Omega 3
    Anonymous
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 03:46 PM

    And what are your thoughts that high dose omega 3 contributes to colon cancer?

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    re: High Dose Omega 3
    awakeinwa
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 07:25 PM

    Omega-3s are powerful broad-spectrum anti-inflammatories. I doubt they are carcinogenic, if anything they are protect cells for such mutations.

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    re: High Dose Omega 3
    Petite Choux
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 11:46 PM

    Colon cancer

    Omega-3 fatty acids are commonly taken by cancer patients. Although preliminary studies report that growth of colon cancer cells may be reduced by taking fish oil, effects on survival or remission have not been measured adequately.

     

     

    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/patient-fishoil.html

     

    After I read all the material on fish oil, I think I'm not going to even take it anymore.  High doses like I need, can cause stroke, excessive bleeding, etc and may contain heavy metals, so that's that. I'll just say thanks, but no thanks to the doc and continue my triglyceride meds.

     

    As far as cancer is concerned, the only connection I can see is the heavy metals, but you would have to take massive doses of fish oil for this to happen. You are welcome to go to inspire.com and register there and ask your question as well on the cancer board. :)

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    re: re: High Dose Omega 3
    awakeinwa
    Friday, October 23, 2009 at 02:06 PM

    the benefits of fish oil far outweight the cons. one doesn't have take an all or nothing high dose. Some is far better than none at all, especially when you consider compounding over time. heavy metals is a non-issue industry wide. I also take something called morDHA by Minami. it's 486mg DHA per cap plus 64mg EPA and other omega 3s. You can get it for a good price at iHerb.com. Eod, regardless of what one reads or believes, you should be able to feel the difference if you take the right stuff with the right quality, type and dose.

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    re: re: re: High Dose Omega 3
    Petite Choux
    Friday, October 23, 2009 at 07:03 PM

    Don't laugh but there is a prenatal Omega 3 out which is better than the one I take, but the fish is sardines, anchovies and of course has soy. I may take that one. I'll have to see if I can get the salmon first.

     

     

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  4. Omega 3 Index test
    Bob Bauer
    Monday, October 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM

    I take 5-6 grams of EPA and DHA in a TG form every day.  I recently had my Omega 3 Index test done via a finger stick test offered by OmegaQuant.  Pretty simple process.  My index was 14.1%.  I was very happy with this result.  They also provide some other interesting information like your omega 6  to Omega 3 index (mine was 1.7 to 1.0).

     

     

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  5. Fish oil phenom
    billyabe
    Monday, October 26, 2009 at 10:27 PM

    Hearthawk my friend I am concerned that you are using yourself as a test lab and you may one day be one of the unlucky white mice.

     

    Yes indeedy fish oil has been demonstrated as most useful in treating heart disease.  But I would submit that the best way to get fish oil is to eat lotsa fish and use those supplements in moderation.  More is not always better.  And way way more could be pretty bad.

     

    I myself have very advanced CAD and supplement with 2 - 3 grams a day of fish oil.  (I suspect that oil originating lower down on the food chain--anchovies or sardines--is probably less contaminated with mercury and other stuff than even the wildest and pinkest salmon.)  I think it helps--my checkup numbers are way better, though I have so many other dietary and lifestyle changes going on it's hard to isolate.  But fish farts are evil and if anyone knows a roundabout for them, I sure would like to hear it.

     

    Thanks very much for sharing your research and experience.  Blessings & good health.

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