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Q: I just turned 67. Stint operatioon after "widowmaker" attack -- 99% blockage. I exercise, eat VERY well -- healthy for 15 years but very bad diet through my 50's. Can I get testerone help?

I read "Male Menopause" and believe the theories and related studies. My doctor says I am "Normal" -- 165 reading. I believe that is NOT OK, even if it's "normal" for 67. I believe that PROPER testosterone treatment will make me healthier AND improve my heart function as well. I am in great shape -- blood workups, x-rays, physical tests all state I am in great shape, but I WANT BETTER. I take Plavix, 81 mg coated aspirin, Lovastatin, Metropolol, and Enalapril at the lowest dosages daily even after the year since my drug-occluded stint was implanted. I want to get off these medicines as my goal. I want more physical strength AND more physical endurance to exercise rigorously to get in better physical and mental condition. Can you help me convince a regular MD to let me take testosterone? Most are soooo behind the times. I do not intend to be a Mark McGuire-type idiot. That's all the doctors I talk to think I will do. I want to take it to bring my level up to about 800, where it SHOULD be.

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Karen McPartland, RD, Health Guide
12/13/11 8:46pm

Hi Pat,

 

There is controversy with regards to testosterone and it's link to heart disease so physician's are cautious about it. Right now more clinical trials are needed before the benefits and risks of testosterone therapy can be precisely determined.  Here are 2 links that demonstrate the lack of understanding about the exact role of testosterone with regards to heart health.  Testoserone link to Heart Disease and Study links heart disease to low testosterone.

 

Best Regards,

Karen McPartland, RD

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Pat, Community Member
12/13/11 9:25pm

Hi, Karen.

 

Thank you for your reply and care to send the articles.

 

I read both "study" reports. Yada, Yada, Yada.  REAL reports credit the actual study with references to the white papers, what journal theyt are published in, who the doctors are, etc., etc., etc.  When web sites "report findings and do not have anym of this FACTUAL information in them, I generally dismiss them.  Real studies put their names in thwe studies, and show factual, object-oriented, measurable results in the reported study.  I have done clinical research a spart of developing clinical triel software for years.

 

These articles used general statements like "levels too high".  What were the actual levels?  How were the results spread over actual level ranges?  How were they spread over age ranges, by sex (women MUST have testosterone as well), by sex, by age range, by testosterone level?  NOTHING said, so the article on danger of "too high" levels mean --- what?!?!

 

Please read the "Male Menopause" book and the dangers of levels that are too low and the AMA majority that say, "well your are not a young man" and use that as a means of NOT looking into actual research that says even a man like me of 67 should have a level of over 500 TO BE HEALTHY.  Mine is 167.  My doctors have said, "Well, you are an older man,  That is expected."  Those that take that stance are not knowledgeable and do NOT know what they are talking about.  That trype of thinking is understandable -- in the 1800's and maybe up to and into the first part of the 20th century.  Endocronologists know better.  I guess I need to go to a good one of those to know FOR SURE what level I should be at for longterm health.  

 

It has studies with facts, figures AND gives references to actual trials run (dozens, not one like in the danger article).

 

I am not on your case.  I am tired of the 5th-grade reporting I find in articles like the danger article that pass themselves off as "medical reporting".

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