I am a 41 year old female with frequent PVC's and SVT. Two years ago I was admitted to the hospital with chest pains and an arrythmia. Since then I have had a heart cath and two separate monitors, I have seen an electrophysiologist for my SVT and nothing has been diagnosed. The only thing that was obvious in all the tests they have run is that when this all started my potassium level was a little low.
Since then I have noticed that the PVC's become more frequent in conjunction with the muscle spasms I get when my potassium is low.
Lately the PVC's have been keeping me awake at night, nothing is more botherson than feeling like your heart wants to leap out of your chest when you are ready to go to sleep. I had my blood drawn last week for the yearly check up but found out that everything in that bloodwork was normal but my Cholesterol (237 with an LDL of 155) so according to that bloodwork, it can't be the potassium causing the PVC's.
The PVC's are really botherson for me, but since they are "benign" my doctor isn't really concerned about them. I'm afraid that there might be an underlying ailment that is causing the PVC's but we just haven't found out what it is yet because the PVC's are benign. I have done a little research on the web, but have been unable to come up with anything that mentions the causes of frequent PVC's. I would appreciate any information that you might be able to give me.
I know exactly how both of you feel. I was 39 years old when I felt my first PVC. I was admitted to the hospital on the cardiac floor for 4 days and on a heart monitor 24/7 two times last year. Both times I was released because they didn't know why I have the PVC's. They basically told me the same thing, not to worry that they are normal and everyone gets them. I get so dizzy and lightheaded and I have constant pressure in my chest and nobody can tell me why. When I was hospitalized, they said I had bigeminy and trigeminy (PVC every 2-3 heartbeats). Sorry but to me, that doesn't seem acceptable. July 31st will be a full year that I have dealt with this and I have no more answers than I did the first day I felt them.
Whereabouts are you based?
Surely these drs can come up with bettr solutions than this?
My story is similar and I am fed up with feeling ill.
I am 47 and have also been dealing with PVC's for one year now. My pvcs are every two beats sometimes every beat 24/7. I have been for every test possible and my heart perfectly normal. I have thryoid problems and it seems when my thyroid is not quite leveled they get worse. I am now going through hormone testing. It may be possible that a lack of estrogen is making me very symptomatic. My EP specialist told me this is not a life long condition, we will see.
I have also been diagnosed with pvc's and pac's through a holter monitor. I am on a very strong drug called mexiletine 150mg twice a day. I used to have very bad ventricular tachycardia and it was ablated and cured. I have pvc's/pac's almost every day and I can usually deal with a few a day. What I find very distressing is when I get a flare up for absolutely no reason and out of the blue like a lot of you are describing. I find them debilitating, scary, and when they flare up, my heart seems to start beating quickly probably because of the anguish that is behind each extra beat. I have been to one of the best hospitals in the world called St. Francis Heart Hospital in Long Island New York. I have seen one of the best arrhthymia specialists. He was written up in The Times Magazine as one of the best doctors for arrhythmias. He told me that they are benign and not to worry about them but when I get these flare ups, they aren't benign to me. Its mother's day tomorrow and I had planned on making a delicious meal for my children and now I don't know what I am going to do. I feel so helpless. Doctor's are baffled over this condition. What I cannot understand is how they can fix blocked arteries, help people that are having a heart attack, but they can't cure this. Due to this flare up, I called my regular cardiologist and all he did was listen to me rambling on about the way I am feeling. He told me that there is really nothing that can be done for me. I was ready to go to the emergency room but that would be a waste of time. All they would do is hook me up to a holter monitor, and see them and then release me. I think this condition is a curse if you ask me and anyone that has them and only people that have them can possibly understand what you go through every time they flare up. I would love to make some friends that have this. I guess misery likes company so to speak. You can email me at email@example.com. Sorry that firstname.lastname@example.org. Please write to me.
dear paula, I have what you have-pvc. sorry ,my caps lock in pc dosn't work.
my cardiologist tells me i don't have a serious causes for my pvc-s. i cannot live a normal life, i am alwais expecting.. i can predict the weather better then weather men, i have my pvc when rain is comming or the temperature is going to dropp.
but mostly, they are unpredictable. my pcp docter blames stress and normal aging for everything. last week i was in the hospital again, and i was told my heart was just fine. what to do?
It is comforting to hear from other women with the same condition. I am 59 and have been having this "heart flumping" since I was in my early 40's. I experience the light headedness and dizziness and sometimes I cough - I feel like I have lost my breath. I have been seeing a cardiologist for 15 years and have had all the tests - echo stress tests, ultrasounds, holter monitors etc. My Dr. says it is nothing to worry about and that I have to get used to it. Well hello, you have no idea how scary it can be when your heart feels like it is trying to jump out of your chest. I tell my husband one shouldn't have to be so aware of what your heart is doing all the time. It would be nice to be just normal for a change.
So sorry you have this. I as well have PVC's and am once again going back in to see the Dr. whom is going to tell me the same thing they did 3 years ago. I never knew anxiety till I was diagnosed with this condition. So frustrating to go 48 hours with no sleep and be told there is nothing that can be done. I feel for your misery, I really do.
Hi Debbie, I am here to offer you some much needed comfort. I am the one who can help you because I know where you're coming from, I've been there and I can relate probably more than anyone else reading these posts.
Now I'm 52, I've had all the same feelings (going to the store, walks, etc..). I still check my heart pulse and count my bigeminy (sp?) runs.
My advice is to TRY not to focus on them. Go about your life just as you would normally, except of course, when you're feeling too dizzy, but even that can sometimes to 'shook' off. Try moving around, get outside, Breath fresh air. I play tennis, and that helps. Go swimming, that helps.
My pvc's when I was in my 40's came and went. No reason, I've monitored what I was eating, doing, meds, etc... nothing connected the dots. But this doesn't matter. I've read recently, and I can't remember which website, but it was reliable, that having pvc's are a PERFECTLY NORMAL pattern in a HEALTHY heart. and you and I both have been diagnosed with a normal structured heart, so this is why you need to try and not obsess over it. It doesn't help to do so, in fact, it takes away from you living a full, productive life. I'm trying to to the same, I live just like any other person, NO limits, exercise ALL you want to, go to stores. I did feel too faint the other day at Costco, so I just left, and didn't purchase anything. That SELDOM happens (like a first in years).
So give it a try, no depression, be happy!! and live!! and love life!, your heart's rhythum is normal for YOUR heart, so go with the 'flow', ha. Good Luck!!!
ocupi- i am 471/2 yrs old 5'11 and close to your weight. just had a stress test and they discovered i have PVC. wondering if you had any thyroid problems? Im in the middle of tons of medical appointments trying to figure out all of my symptons.
For the past month 1/2 I've had the very same thing. Thumping in my chest so hard it will will jar you! Had all of the tests, cardiac catherization, monitorws, etc. they finally stopped and for 3 days I was beginning to feel like my old self again and THEN this morning at 5:40 a.m. it all started again. Dizziness, shortness of breath etc. Give me a break - why can't all of these genious Drs. come up with something to help???
Try NO cinnamon or caffeine. It really helped me!
I've been having them for years, been in and out of the hospital, had a failed ablation, you name it . . . I have researched the crap out of it as the doctors, both naturopathic and regular, can't help me. About a month ago I decided to attack on my own. First, I found out that mold is a huge culprit in causing PVCs, and I realized mine were worse when we would get in a batch of moldy hay (we have a horse farm.) I now have someone else move hay for me. Second, I put myself on a juice fast for a week and slowly started adding back regular food. I had very few PVCs while on juice, but as soon as I started eating again, and carefully monitored my reactions, I learned that anything with wheat caused my heart to go bananas. Which is a pain, but not impossibe to deal with. Also, if I eat past the point of being comfortably full the PVCs kick in with a vengeance. I'm not saying your causes are the same, but it you are creative, you can find ways to narrow it down and learn the triggers. Oh, and I have been allergic to every med they have tried to give me for them. I am 51, in very good health, and there is no way I can do many of the things I used to do because when they flare up, it knocks the wind out of me. I am determined to narrow down the causes and figure this out, whatever it takes.
Yes...I feel better knowing that I'm not the only one who has this trouble. I am 56 and have been having PVCs for about 6 months. I feel exactly like you with the coughing and losing my breath. I have a tightness in my chest and my heart is always dancing a jig. I work midnight shift, so the PVCs seem to be worse when I am really tired....which is most of the time. It feels horrible and I am always thinking I'm going to have a heart attack or something. My doctor talks to me like I'm being silly to make a big deal out of something that I don't need to worry about. It is very uncomfortable and I am getting real tired of it. I am just glad I am not the only one going through this. Teri
My pvc's have started occurring after eating, especially midday at work. If I stand and do a lot of moving around the pvc's minimize, sometimes stopping alltogether. If I sit and work they are worse. They come and last for weeks sometimes, then there are months that I don't see any. My doctors don't seem very concerned about them at all. They say they are "bothersome" but that is all. I try to keep this in mind, but it is still very difficult to just "ignore" them. The pvc's seem to occurr with a lot of intestinal gas. I also have GERD which I believe contributes greatly to them. I am also greatly stressed right now due to the loss of my mother, my brother's grandson, and several friends. I have had panic attacks since I was in my 20's. They are much worse when I am stress, as my abdominal distress is heightened by excessive stress and worry. When I am not stressed, I don't have any pvc's either. I have gone for long periods without experiencing even 1. I agree that eating better does seem to make a difference, also handling stress and deep breathing makes a difference. I am lactose intolerent, and I need to stay away from all dairy products. Not eating late also helps.
I know how distressing pvc's can be. They are really frightening. My doctors do nothing when Ihave them. Over the years I have had a holter monitor, an event monitor, stress echo, telemetry, and nothing was wrong with my heart. I have no additional symptoms other than tachycardia when I panic. If I go to the hospital or doctor, they just give me a tranqiliser and send me home. I got a $500 bill from the emergency room just for being on telemetry for 3 hours. Thank goodness the insurance picked up all but $75! It's so annoying, because worrying about the pvc's gives you more pvc's. I know that when I don't think about them I don't really get them. I think we just need to learn to relax and de-stress which is much harder than it sounds. I thnk the dizziness, etc. could be due to the anxiety of worrying about the sensations. As long as we have our doctor's assurance, we should try not to worry. Look at how many people are going thru the same thing. I keep working, or doing whatever I'm doing and nothing ever happens. Try to stay focused, read, and educate yourself. Also find someting interesting to do and get your mind off of the pvc's. I am going to start sewing again. Best of luck to you, and I think you and I (and the others) are going to be fine! Ingmar
I had the pvc's every 2 to 3 beats about 3 years ago. I was in the ER on telemetry for 3 hours and they watched the pvc's but the doctors said they were benign. Then they stopped for a long time. I recently started getting them after a family tragedy and a bout with severe depression.
The doctor already put me on xanax and is also trying to put me on celexa in addition to the tranquiliser. I don't want to live on an array of pharmaceuticles. I am looking for a more natural approach.
Please try and calm down, its only gonna make them worse. I have them all the time also. They will not kill you, and most likely you will never pass out. You should get on a medicine to help you stay calm. I feel so bad for you, i can tell in your writing that your at your breaking point. You will be Okay, you just have to find the right medicine to either take them away, or at the very least, less frequent. I take valium, 2mg. all day if i have to, that seems to help alot, and if they do happen, well at least I dont panic. Hope this helps you.
Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou! I am a 41 year old woman and have been having PCVs for a few years. At first they were occational, but became more frequent several months ago. I have also noticed that my PVCs increase dramatically immediately after eating. I also have reflux so sometimes it's hard to tell which is causing that burbly flip-flop feeling in my chest. I quit smoking and dropped all caffinated beverages and it seemed to help for awhile but a couple of weeks ago they abruptly returned. I had not yet heard anyone else state that their PVCs increase after a meal so I had disregared the idea of a true corrolation between the two. In short, I figured I was just imagining things. It is a relief to know that I'm not and to have something else within my control which may be a cause. I logically know that PVCs aren't a big deal but have a hard time not getting panicked when they are frequent. Naturally, this just makes the situation worse. Oh well. Maybe when I have been having them for 20 years and am still alive I'll begin to trust that they are, in fact, irritating but harmless.
Hi, My name is Pam and I have been reading all the different posts about pvcs and your symptoms seem very similar to myself. I started having them about 8 years ago right after I was dignoised with Celiac Sprue. I have them constantly and they are either every other beat or every second beat. I have been seen and had all the tests to check my heart health by two different cardiologists and will be seeing a third in April. I have been told that they are benign as many people on here have. Celiac causes a lot of inflammation in the stomach and small intestints and I feel like that is what has started all the pvcs. I also have hypothyroidism which probably don't help and also age (42) and perimenopausal. I like you seem to think there is a trigger and have yet to figure it out. Good luck with your answer! Let me know if you find one.
Have you checked your sugar. I have the same things and sometiimes my sugar is elevated. I am 74 with border line diabeties. No insulin yet. But have been told very sensitive to my sugar.The dizziness, sweaty,blurred vision,depression and anxiety all go with the sugar. Try to let me know how you do.
I am so thankful to have found this blog. Everything I've read seems to relate to me and my pvcs. I am vowing to try magnesium, eat small portions and none after 5:30 pm. I am going to start walking and keep in mind the whole time I am making myself stronger;I am not going to focus on the fluttering and flipping in my chest. I will picture a healthy heart pumping my blood to make me the best I can be. I have a 16 year old daughter and a 13 year old son and they need me! GOOD BYE PVCs!
Hey Paula, I kmow PVCs and PACs literally can suck the life out of you. When I was 19 I first started getting these and I was diagnosed with Mitral Valve Prolapse. They put me on Lopressor as needed for a few years.It helped at the time. Then for 30 years, yes 30 years these went away. But 1 night, 5 years ago, here they came like a bull in a china shop. I went to the ER and they said they were nothing, get over it, your fine. Up until 2 months ago, I often counted in my head that its been 5 long years and no more pvcs or pacs. Then along came this past February and they hit me like a ton of bricks. I dont mean hundreds this time, I mean about 20,000 of them, dancing in my chest....I went to ,y cardiologist in Waterbury,Ct and they did a stress test(Normal), they did a Haltor Monitor(Normal), checked my blood(Normal. 2 nights ago they blasted thru my chest again, every other beat for hours!!!!!!!I tried to calm down and took a benedryl. I fell asleep and woke up to none. They usually are not there when I wake up and visit me at night.Very spuratic, so you cant count on when theyre coming. My doctor called e today and is putting me on the 30 day loop. They said these most like;y are benign, but who knows, until they catch it on the monitor. They said bing I have mitral valve, a lazy valve, this could be causing it, huh? I dont know. Today I stayed in bed all day. I did not go to Zumba, did not go to work, did not see my dad for breakfast, locked my door and kept the world out just waiting for them to happen. I am so scared. I am a very active and young 54, look 44, but no good if I got these things. Help.....Michelle
They probably dont put you on meds cuz they feel you are too young. At 36 you are fairly young and they feel there is no way anything will haopen to you. I am 54 and they wont do anything for me either. I am going craaaazy.How do we ignore when our hearts are skipping 1000,s of beats in our throats. I a, so confused. Gos Bless you, I am Christian as well.
my cardiOlogist said, NO CAFFEINE, NO SMOKING, NO DRUGS, NO CHOCOLATE, AND NO NO NO NO STRESS, I USE CAFFEINE, I HAVE STRESS, I LOVE CHOCOLATE, DO NOT SMOKE OR DO DRUGS. YIKES, I AM AT A LOSS TOOOO.
THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP ON MAGNESIUM.
Dear Debbie: As an RN, I have been having PVC's since early 40's. As of late, I have been having them continously for the last month, my birthday month, April and I am 58, female. I have also found the pounding, irregular heart beat to very scarey, feels as "if I'm trying to die", quite frankly.. I had a 24 hour monitor two days ago, and my cardiologist explains, "they are just annoying." Humm.. I'm not too sure any doctor really knows what the heart is doing. I 've decided to keep going, enjoy life, walk, smell my flowers, eat right, and I still have one cup of coffee in a.m. Have all my life. That is not going to change. You take care. Dianne
Debbie I know what you mean they are terrible to have to deal with and can easily take over a person.
This all started about 5 years ago for me and I was told the same thing they cant hurt you. Well tell that to aperson having the 3 hr runs of these stupid things.
If I lay flat in bed they are horrible!
so i try to sleep sitting up and have the Tv on to help take my mind off of it.
May 17th i see a cardiolagist but were that will get me who knows?
Try to keep your mind off of the fact your having them and dont be affraid to live your life as you normaly would the best you can.
some day they will figure this out!
Ok its my turn. Im a 46 yr old women 5"2 179lbs but carry it well and dont look fat. For the last 3 wks straight i have been having PVC everyday all day, it ware me out at the end of the day. I notice long as im moving i dont have them but when im sitting or trying to relax boy they start up. I was taking 50mg 2x day atenolol that was not working so now my dr switch me to 50mg 2x day Metoprolol and up my lexapro to 20mg a day its been 3 days now and no relief yet. I would get a pvc maybe 2 or 3 pvc a month which was ok but never like this everyday all day. Ive been to the Emergency room and they was able to catch them and said there not dangerous wow! good to know but they feel dangerous. I also take lorazepam when i just cant take anymore to relax so i can just cope with them. This stuff is beginning to cause me to want to withdrawl from the world because i feel my safety zone is at home. Im praying everyday for a healing from these things. Ive lost my job because i just could not function due to the anxiety and depression this have me in. Well in Feb this yr i almost lost my mother and was there when she stop breathing and had to work on her and it seems like i havent felt the same since then. My dr thinks from all of that stress that ive been through now things done calm down and im beginning to break. Ive taking care of my mother for the last 7yrs in my home by myself and shes the love of my life besides my 4 sons. Its like now im in my late 40s and all my kids are grown and now my moms is being taking care of in a facility i should be have a great time, but its like my world is falling apart as i sit her crying writing this note. Well with no medical at this time im waiting to get charity so i can have more test ran to see if theres something causing all the PVC. or its just big STRESS AND ANXIETY from all ive been through. Well everyday im hoping for a miracle that these pvc will just go away. Well ive vented now so if anyone know of any meds thats good for these things please let me know. I can be reached at email@example.com
Thank you for the advice. I will be 47 this week - 5'6" 134lbs and fit. Work out 5-7 times per week, both cardio and weight training. Started with PVCs during divorce 8 yrs ago. They went away when my stress level went down and when my sense of normalcy returned. Returned last year with a vengeance. Holter monitor indicated over 9000 PVCs in a 24 hour period which was quite scary. Much worse when inactive - if I want them to go away, I do major cardio exercise. Nothing seems to have a lasting impact -gave up caffeine and they ceased for a week or so, stopped taking Claritin and they stopped for a week or so. They definitely rear their ugly head when I am stressed, but this too does not seem to be a trigger, only something that makes them worse. I see an arythmia specialist who first prescribed cardizem, which didn't make any impact other than to give me acne and weight gain. Next went to metotropol which helped, but not completely. Added digoxin which also helped. But nothing will truly knock this. Every time I think I have conquered this with meds, they come back. My doctor says that next step is medication that has huge side effects or cardiac ablation to try and correct the issue. He indicates that my heart mis-fires and that with ablation, they can correct - if the PVCs are occurring during the surgery. I am tempted to try this as I don't see how I can live with this forever. After reading your response, I want to try chiropractor care first. I am a true believer in the power of proper body mechanics and alignment. Much safer and cheaper solution to try. Thank you and I'll update once I try this.
I went into the ER last month for chest pains and found out I have very frequent pvc's i was also admitted for 2 days and run lots of test. Came back ok so Dr put me on beta blocker and I'm still having them very bad and getting alot of dizzy spells with chest pains. I'm also not sure what I should do now. I don't have medical insurance at the time so can't keep paying 100.00 to see a heart Dr. Very fustrating. I'm not sure what is causing mine also. I'm 43 yrs old and have been healthy
I understand what you mean. I don't smoke, do drugs and have limited caffeine. Who doesn't have stress in this day and time.lol. Mine occur more when I'm resting and sleeping. I'm also having pain with them and alot of dizziness. Dr put me on lopressor but I'm still have alot of problems with them
I too, have the same problems with PVC's that you're having. My Cardiologist started me on Lopressor 50mg daily. After a couple of years on this dosage which wasn't doing much for stopping the PVC's, I went to my local general dr. that said why not increase the dosage gradually up to 100mg daily in divided doses of 25mg. 4 times daily and see if that helps. It did, and has made my life much better. Sometimes, you just need to try different beta blockers or calcium channel blockers at different dosages to get results. Don't give up.
Hello Ingmar54, I noticed that you have PVCs, panic disorder and GERD as I do. The PVCs are very recent and trigger a mild panic response which brings on the indigestion. The cardiologist told me not to worry when my PVCs flare up (usually once or twice daily for about an hour) but it's difficult. Eating seems to play a part. I hope you do not get caught up in avoidance. Many of us panic sufferers tend to avoid situations that we think might cause panic attacks. Pretty soon we're avoiding 90% of our life! I've met people who do not leave their house. This could also apply to people with PVCs. I trying my best to do what the doctors suggest and ignore them rather than let them dictate what I do. My 24 hour halter monitor showed about 85 per hour at the peak. The rest of the day I had about 3-5 per hour. I will do my best to ignore them and hope the frequency declines as my cardiologist says is might. Good luck to both of us!
I am 45 and have had PVC for five years. Sometimes they are worse than other times. I have been tested and a friend who is a cardiologist told me not to worry, I trust him so I don't. It can be worrying sometimes when you feel them, but he told me that most people have it, but they just can't feel it. So my recommendation to you is to not worry about it, its most likely not going to be fatal. Stay away from caffine, that does help. Worry about something else, like your sons, your relationship, your job. Get off all of the drugs...yea, they cure some symptoms, but if you start enjoying life and stop worrying, you probably won't need all the meds.
i know how u feel i have had them for years but they r just getting worse i have had the holter belt on for 24 hours and only had 2 . but i have been staying on top of it. so i think thats what needs to be done if it is causing u alot of trouble .it feels like im being kicked in the chest but at times it really dont cause any pain at all.but im not going give up and u should not ether go see your doctor if he dont do anything go see another on good luck!
I just left E.R. I have had pain in my upper back and chest on the left side for 8 days. I felt I was going to pass out today. I have asthma. One Dr. ran a E C G. He was very concerned said I had ventricular abnormalities. Encouraged me to vist E.R. He stated it may not be a heart attack but maybe build up in the lungs are pressuring the heart. At E.R. another ECG. maybe an hour later. I was told it looked good. One occurance of PVC. Was diagosed with bronchitis/URI.
I have had PVCs since I was about 45 (I am 50 now). Everything you say to reduce PVCs makes much sense after thinking about it. Stress expecially as well as eating. However, sometimes I feel them more when I lay down at night (may be stress too tho). My big concern was how will I know when something is a benign PVC or something I really need to be concerned with. Finally, I had such an occurrence 2.5 years ago. What I thought was PVCs every other beat actually was relaly my heart slowing down due to an electrical heart block (supposedly unrelated to PVCs but I think underlying contributing causes - heart defects - may be similar.) I now have a pacemaker and still have PVCs tho. Still feel like heart will beat out of chest at times. Hard to remove all the stressors in my life so trying to deal with them better.
Interesting. I think I've had PVCs for many years ( i'm now 38), but never paid attention to it as anything other than indigestion and gas. It wasn't really until last year that I started to notice that the fluttering in my chest was most likely not indigestion. As you said, the episodes occur around the time of eating; or at least this seems to be my case. I notice it especially when I lay on my back in bed, as opposed to lying on my side. I don't know if it feels more pronounced this way, or if it really affects the occurance of the PVCs. They definitely occur if I have had any type of caffeine throughout the day, even if I ingested it 10 hrs earlier. I don't know if it has any significance, but I recently had genetic testing done with 23 & me, which indicated that I likely have caffeine intolerance, which I've more or less known for many years..though I still will drink a little every now and then. But like you said, after I've eaten, I definitely feel the PVCs more. I was once told by an acupuncturist that if I feel like sleeping soon after a big meal, it was my spleen to fault, but now I'm not so sure about that.
When I try to think back to when the flip flopping feeling began, it goes way back to when I was in junior high. I had physicals for school and several times mentioned that I felt fluttering, and that many people in my family had murmurs; but every time, they would tell me after the exam, I was fine and didn't have a heart murmur. When I was 7, I had scarlet fever, and when i was 2 I had rheumatic fever, so whenever I had to have dental work, I had to have a heart check and take penicillin prior to dental work. For many years after, nothing abnormal was found with my heart.
I liked to jog while I was in college, until one day when i was 25, I quit. I ran one lap around the track and couldn't breathe, vomited, felt like my head was going to burst. thinking back, I don't think it was an asthma attack as I assumed. Whenever I felt the tightness in my chest, I would take the asthma inhaler as my allergist suggested, but it never helped symptoms. It usually made it worse, which now as I think about it, yep, it would if the tightness was actually PVCs. Right? Adding an asthma medication to a PVC will make things worse!
Now, I'm working in the medical field, running lab work and running ekgs, I've been paying more attention to myself. I had an EKG, which was normal. But, I figured out what my problem was after I had a patient described to me exactly how he felt, which was more or less exactly how I felt. His results pointed out what my ekg had missed. Nope, it wasn't indigestion as my doctors kept suggesting, it's PVC.
What I want to know is, now what? how can I keep myself in shape and workout to lower my heart rate if I feel like I'm going to have an MI after basic exercise? Right now, I haven't gotten reasonible answers. I already do yoga, and it's not lowering my heart rate. In college, I passed out while doing bench step aerobics--I thought it was from not eating enough cereal. It's ridiculous. I want to lower my heart rate, which is like that of a mouse running on a wheel. My husband, who's overweight and eats whatever he wants, has a heart rate half mine. I'm the one who eats healthier and keeps busy, yet he's in better shape than me.
When my acid reflux acts up, the PVCs and SVT starts. This morning, so far, I've had at least 10 runs of SVT and more frequent PVCs. In 1998, I had an EP study and the SVT was identified. They could not ablate it because it was too close to a nerve that controlled breathing. I get PVCs when I eat, drink water (that's the only thing I drink) get an upset stomach or touch my stomach. Bending over will also cause them. Sometimes I get SVT mixed with PVCs and it feels like I can't breathe.
The only drugs that have helped are Sectral (beta blocker approved for PVCs) and Aciphex (proton pump inhibitor for acid reflux.) Also talking magnesium helps.
I am a newly 40 year old female who has been dealing with severe PVC's for over a year i have had every test under the sun and they state the same it is benign but severe as long as they are not happening back to back and the heart is having the chance to reset itself i will be ok!! Yeah ok.... try explaining that to my children when out of no where i loose my breath and feel like my heat is leaping out of my chest or after I eat something it seems to kick into full effect.... they wanted to put me on a beta blocker as well but I have low blood pressure as well... so that is out...then they wanted to do an ablation but the risks out way the benefit with no guarantee that they will be able to map it when im on the table etc....there has to be something else.... as i type my BP is 98/56 HR of 92 joY! Hopefully they will find a cure
If I can't eat chocolate or drink coffee, I want to die now. I have benign PVCs which worsen when I do manual labor. Sometimes every other heart beat. It seems like the only way to get a cardiologist's attention is to drink coffee and eat chocolate to excess so the PVCs get so out of control that they have to ablate them. I am disgusted too.
I had the ablation and it did not help. None of the medications helped. The PVC's seem to be worse when I am resting -sitting or sleeping- What is the cure.
my name Theresa and I'm forty four, I know rxactly how you feel I have been having pvcs my whole life, and they scare the hell out of me,it dosent matter what i'm doing or where I'm at they come out of the blue, I was recently put on a beta blocker and I still have them. It's hard to function when you live in constant fearof these things, most days I lie in bed, or sit on the couch and cry, it's so depressing,I wish for a cure evry day, and i hate it when drs tell me to ignore them, how do you do that?well I'm ranting again, I hope you feel better and if you need to talk I'm here, my email is firstname.lastname@example.org.
I am 37 years old Lady and I the same problem.Especially it happens after eating, sitting and laying down.IN my opinion something related to my thyroid condition or stomach problem.My cardilogist totally ignore them.He says PVC's are "bening" and there could be any reason for them.He does not know exactly what causes for my PVC's.It is very hard to live with PVC's. My life is becoming more and more difficult.I do not feel safe at all when I have PVC's.There is no CURE for that:((
I am still looking for a solution because I am not comfortable!
Whenever I have PVC and I have chest pain too.That is my big concern....
Thanks for sharing...
Hi Shellmat, I too have pvcs. My doctor has no idea what causes them or can cure them. I hope you and everyone else with pvcs reads what I am writing. I am almost positive that whey protein and branched chain amino acids (bcaa) can almost make this problem stop or even go away. I've tried magnesium and potassium and they had no affect on this problem. I was diagnosed with pvcs in 2005. I was a one pack a day cigarette smoker at the time. I was put on 25 mgs of toprol once a day by my cardiologist. This worked fine for a year. The next year 2006 it got worse. I went back and he upped the dosage to 50 mg once a day and said we may one day have to put a pacemaker in you. Believe me when I say, I went through every test he could think of. Perfect EKG, blood pressure, blood work fine etc...Well I decided to quit smoking. Within onr e year I quit. Yay I finally did it. The pvcs stopped! I thought wow it's over. Well two years went by and guess what..Yep you're right here they come again. Only a heck of a lot worse this time. I freaked out. The doctor had just released me six months earlier and said he no longer needed to see me. Well I'm right back in the office right where I started only a lot worse this time. We went through all the test. Still nothing except 50 mgs. of toprol and talks of a pacemaker. Very scary. through the year (2011) I tried potassium, cayanne pepper, magnesium and everything else I read about that could help pvcs. As I entered into 2012 the pvcs got even worse and more frequent. I figured I would just have to learn to live with them. Well I have worked out steadily for the last 10 years. Weight lifting, playing softball and basketball. I'm basically a 52 year old kid. I just love to compete. It is so much fun to me and I get to see all my friends I grew up with over the years. Well one afternoon I was sitting around the house on my day off work and I was having a lot of pvcs. Probably about 60 per hour. So I said to myself if I am going to live with these pvcs I am going to work out and start taking protein to gain some more muscle and be the best I can be. I couldn't believe that within two hours of taking the protein drink, the pvcs stopped completely. I almost couldn't believe it myself. So I went to the gym, worked out very hard and came home and had another protein drink and still no pvcs! I kept this up for about two months and read some more about pvcs and amino acids. Only to learn that when you look up in wikipedia that all ateletes are recommended to take amino acids. The pvcs came back a little so I started to take the branch chain amino acids and it stopped them again. When I play softball and run they come back. I probably have 30 to 40 of them in a doubl header game. Thats two hours of playing and I play shortstop which is a very busy position as you probably know. But when I stop playing, the pvcs stop also. It's cold here in Va. so we don't play softball after october. At least I don't. All I do is weight lift and go to the gym 4 days a week to stay in shape. I quit basketball because the gym I go to has a half court and no one plays. So I just get ready for softball. I currently take three times a day protein drinks I mix them with water to make sure I don"t gain bad weight and I take nine amino acids a day. I only have somewhere between 5 and 10 pvcs a day. I can live with this and I do believe this is a nutrition thing. Doctors can't make any money off nutrition so my specialist had no idea why this works. Gotta run I will be back to finish this soon.
I think the best thing that you wrote was "...they're not benign to me". I too am struggling with PVC's. I've had every test there is done (Holter monitor, Event monitor, echo, EP study, Angiogram, blood tests, stress tests, etc.) and all that they (2 cardiologists) tell me is that they're benign and not to worry about them. Hard to swallow that when it feels like your heart is beating like a mis-firing engine. What really frustrates me is the same thing you mentioned about recurring trips to the cardiologist. I feel like I need to go when the PVC's get bad, however I know that all they'll want to do is another Holter monitor and tell me that I'm fine. A waste of my time and money so I suffer through them as best I can while trying to ignore them.
I'm trying to lower my stress level and pray that it stops. I wish there were a simple (or a definitive) solution to this problem that seems to affect so many people.
I'm trying to lower my stress level and pray that it stops. I wish there were a simple (or a definitive) solution to this problem that seems to affect so many people.
The best line that I can think of when my cardiologist says that they're benign is that "...they're not benign to me". I too am struggling with PVC's. I've had every test there is done (Holter monitor, Event monitor, echo, EP study, Angiogram, blood tests, stress tests, etc.) and all that they (2 cardiologists) tell me is that they're benign and not to worry about them. Hard to swallow that when it feels like your heart is beating like a mis-firing engine. What really frustrates me is the same thing you mentioned about recurring trips to the cardiologist. I feel like I need to go when the PVC's get bad, however I know that all they'll want to do is another Holter monitor and tell me that I'm fine. A waste of my time and money so I suffer through them as best I can while trying to ignore them.
Thank you...I was specifically looking to see if anyone had greater problems with their PVC's during hormonal times such as pregnancy or periods. The last few days, mine have become unbearable...and I'm either a week late on my period, or pregnant (which seems highly unlikely due to a tubal ligation 10 years ago). Either way, I've been hormonal as all Hell. Now, I am going to check and see if I have any magnesium in my cabinet...Again, thank you.
I am a 58 y/o female with frequent PVC's. Drs have agreed with yours that they are benign and I agree with you that it feels horrible. I have found that taking liquid oxygen when they start tends to stop them for me and relieves the dizziness and uncomfortable tightness. Liquid oxygen can be purchased on the internet and is worth a try. If you get hospitalized the first thing they do is put you on oxygen so I tried it.
I recently started having pvcs that were so frequent and obvious it was causing me to feel the need to cough. I realized that they started about the time I quit taking my zyrtec which I have been taking for years for allergic rhinitis. When I started taking the zyrtec again...the pvc subsided. Very weird.
I suggest looking up dr bruce west. he puts out a holistic newsletter that addresses all problems with vitamin nutrition. Most vitamins are junk but he only uses Standard Processed Lab Vitamins that are mostly organic, raw and natural.
My husband had Congestive Heart Failure from high blood pressure meds and he started Dr Bruce West's protocol and cured himself. We've learned that most Americans have berry berry of the heart, which is a lack of B complex vitamins. You have to take 6-9 a day becuase you cannot compact whole food nutrition in one little pill like you buy in a store. If you really are ready to help yourself, you should subscribe to Health Alert. Once a member you can write Dr. West and he will respond... We only use Standard Processed vitamins, you can order by phone.
So much knowledge in his newletters!!! You will start learning the true reason for so many ailments.
That would be beriberi. It is common in alcoholics and others that are malnourished. It is uncommon in the US as our foods are fortified. Cardiovascular effects would include edema (fluid/swelling) in the lungs or legs. In the field we treat with IV thiamine (Vitamin B1).
More info on beriberi
allen carr books are really of helpful knowledge about why we are ill recently in last 100 yrs or so and why there is not much answers he clears up alot of confusion and made me feel heaps better also finding out about what jesus is really about and knowing he loves us all and is happy to help us with our problems comforted me through so many frustrating times happy times too here before u brush me off as some kind of nutter!! which i might not blame u i hope u find out about him good people are cofusedthere are negative versions and he is misunderstood by many sadlyi hope u here the good news he has in store for you and any others who turn and call on his name god/ jesus christ and all. God loves us so much and forgives us he can guide u and there is reason to feel frightened no matter what u go through he is always happy to hear from his children us sinners no matter how we live or what sins we commit the worst he feels joy just to hear from you and hopes u will give your problems to him through a prayer and ask in jesus christs name i honestly believe i just gave u all the medicine and knowledge u can ever acquire to begin to heal we must educate ourselves here as all is not as it seems also it is still good to show your face a t the hospital u know! rather than not? at least it gets u out and up instead of worrying at home at least u can get to know them a little and as the saying goes u never know they r always bringing out new news and people just want to help u so best to keep at it remember your not alone so many people are going through so much in these times,
all the best with whatever u decide to do. i hope this helps A. F
It has been a few years since I was on here and as it turned out I was way too many PVCs and the ended up having to do a heart ablation to get them under control so if your PVCs are bad and your doctor keeps telling you not to worry about it go see another doctor because if you having so many it is causing symptoms your blood is probably not circulating correctly and some heart doctors still think that no matter how bad PVCs are they cant hurt well you may not have a heart attack but they can cause other issues that are harmful to your health.
Please be careful with b vitamins. I also take standard process. I just came home from the ER thinking I had esophageal spasm and they were pvc's. When I showed the doctor what vitamins I was talking he said I could be taking to much vitamin b12. He said his wife had the same problem and found out after she stopped b12 her pvc's went away.
Wow, I can't believe so many people have this same problem. I've had PVC's for over 25 years. I just went to another "new" cardiologist in our area yesterday. He says mine are definitely benign, I've had every test in the book. He says when I have a pvc it gets me all anxious and causes me to have anxiety which makes the problem worse. Yeah, try to calm yourself when you wake up in the middle of the night and your heart is fluttering or beating out of your chest. He says this won't kill me, something else will! And actually the medication my previous doctor put me on was digoxin, and this doctor told me to quit taking it. It's a poison and it hurting me worse then the palipatations are. Who do you believe???
I have thousands of PVCs a day. The medical profession thinks PVCs are "benign" but I disagree. At the level I have them, they are anything but benign. Years of PVC's like this can cause a cardiomyopathy.
There are many different causes and treatments for PVCs.
Some people report Magnesium supplements have helped (400-600 mg a day of the Mag Chloride, not the oxide.)
Fish oil (omega 3) has been reported to help PVCs.
One man reported taking 150 mg of COQ10 a day and he said that stopped his PVCs after years of being on beta blockers.
Some people report that their GERD (gastric reflux) is what causes them. I did read that esphogeal irritation can bring on PVCs. These individuals take Prilosec and other anti-ulcer medications.
Hormone inbalance, the ratio of estrogen (too high) to progesterone (low) in women can bring on PVCs.
PVCs are very individual and the treatment of them is as well.
Good luck to all in finding your particular treatment. I'm still trying to find mine.
I am a 63 yo wm who has had problems with PVC's off and on for the past 30 years. I have frequently found relief by stopping all caffeine (coffee and soft drinks) until symptoms resolved. After several months I have resumed caffeine without a resumption of symptoms and remained symptom free for a year or more before they occurred again. My usual caffeine intake is a cup of coffee a day and at most 3 Pepsies a week. I am a nurse and was working in a local Emergency Department with a highly qualified cardiologist and also an Internal Medicine pysician during one period which lasted for several weeks. They both took an active interest, offered advice, ran EKG's and even tried short term prescriptions of medications. Toprol was used for a week or 2 but neither doctor recommended long term use of medications as the possible side effects were more dangerous than the the PVC's. Symptoms resolved after avoiding caffeine for several weeks. Must be some other underlying problem that reacts to caffeine use as I sometimes use caffeine for a year or more without experiencing any problems. Abstaining from caffeine seems to help but still have questions.
Just wondering how you are since this last post. My pvcs are getting worse and are lasting hours everyday. Did you find anything else that helped?
I am a 39-year-old pregnant woman with PVCs. I had WPW which was ablated in 2006. I have been symptom-free since then, until I became pregnant. Now I have PVCs very randomly, but sometimes as often as every 4 or 5 beats, for hours in a row. Some days, I have none at all.
I have worn a monitor, had an echocardiogram. They see the PVCs but seem unconcerned with them. The echo came back completely normal. My electrophysiologist believes they are hormone related, and since I'm pregnant, this is why the PVCs have returned.
But I will say that I don't quite believe they aren't dangerous. It feels pretty scary to me. I pray to God that once this baby is delivered, that all the PVCs will disappear.
I just wanted to say that I understand what you are all going through, and I feel for you. I really do...
Not a doctor here but I am a 41 year old woman with PVCs sometimes more frequent than other times. I think there is a hormonal link, when estrogen is particularly low. Somedays there are none and other days all day long they occur. Have worn the holder monitor and told they are not life threatening just disturbing. Welcome any answers.
I started taking magnesium/calcium tablets to help with migraines, which it didn't help those, but it did in fact significantly decrease the amount of pvc's in one day. Its harmless, cheap and worth a try. Good luck to you. After 2+ years with them and clean echo cardiograms and two rounds of holder monitors, I've just learned to live with them. I hope they subside with menopause.
I have just started having pvc's at the age of 42. I suffer from severe migraine's also right before my period and wonder if this might be the cause of my new pvc's happenning. I am still waiting for the results of my holter monitor test and i am very nervous about everything as this is new to me. I did go to the health food store and just got a womens one a day vitamin, omega 3 fish oil, calcium/magnesium and a complex b vitamin. I am told by my brother (who also has pvc's) that these work wonders. i am so nervous and hoping that they go away as they keep me up at nite and i need xanax to sleep at this point. any information at this time will calm me and make me feel more comfy knowing that i am not alone in this.
I am 42 years old and have been having pvcs for 1 year. I have had holter monitor, ekgs, echo which they were caught on all test. My doctor told me not to worry they were not harmful. He could give me medication but that was more dangerous than the pvc's were. The best treatment I have found is to Pray. God will not give us anything we cannot handle. Try not to worry I know it is hard but worry only makes them worst. You are not alone.
I too have been dealing with pvcs for over 30 years and am going through a very difficult bout with them at this time so I truly understand the frustration and aloneness you too are feeling. They are very frightening. I'll be happy to correspond with you since I know full well how troublesome they can be. sah
You might want to read my post. I've found that although there seems to be no organic reasons for PVCs, I can mention with years of experiencing them that elevated levels of stress or anxiety makes the situation much worse. Xanex is great for taking the edge off if you react to the PVCs with anxiety. Years ago, I'd become so reactive to the off heart beats, I'd drive to emergency.....real waste of time. Taking the time to settle my nerves, eat very small protions of food and never eat past 5:30 has helped enormously. If my life is in order, little or no stress, exercising and eating small portions of food, PVCs do not exist.
Don't count on them disappearing with menopause. I have had these for 30 years. I am now 65. They come and go - there is no rhyme or reason why, or when, they will come on. The can disappear for months, then come back again, sometimes a few a day, sometimes all day long. Had all the tests - found nothing.
Doctor says don't worry, - but even after all these years I still hate it. So, after reading all the posts, I guess we can pretty much rest assured that it is a benign condition, however, it's not something you can ever really easily cope with. I won't take any medications though, will just muddle through them.
I am 38 years old and began to suffer from PVC's/PAC's and SVT ever since my daughter was born 8 years ago! I have been to numerous doctors for this and have had every type of testing/monitoring done. The end conclusion is always the same...ignore them! Don't you love when you are told this (let them feel the skipped beats, the shortness of breath, the tightness in your chest)! 3 years ago I was just walking up from the basement and I felt like a zap in my throat and my heart immediatley started to beat at 196 beats a minute. My husband rushed me to the hospital only to receive 2 injections of adenosine and to be monitored on the cardiac floor for 2 days! I was then prescribed a beta blocker and told not to worry...HA! It's like a joke to them! I have been on Atenolol for 3 years now and it seems to lessen the frequency of the fast heart but I still get the PVC's.. I live my life every day wondering when the next ones will occur. This heart condition is mentally crippling. I hate it! I recently contacted my cardiologist and asked him if I could be monitored at the cardiac rehab to make sure it is safe to do light exercise. I don't want to be one of these people dropping dead while exercising but I am also so sick of being immobile because of this condition. I wish you all luck and hope this info helps you!
Wow. I'm 38 also and have had these since age 32. At first they were just once in a while but now I have them frequently. Alot I can feel but I was just at the docs and the nurse said "did you feel all that". Well, I didn't but she said I had 5 or 6 just in the minute she was listening. It had caused a great deal of anxiety. I think about it now all the time. They upped my metoprolol xl to 37.5 mg/day. I've been feeling sorta like a buzzed feeling. Hard to describe, its not just dizzy or lightheaded. I never know what to call it and wonder if the meds are causing it.
If the docs say they are benign then why do they want to up my meds? The nurse mentioned to me that if they get worse they CAN but rarely turn into a v-tach that then can turn into v-fib. I go back again in a week and dread it. I wish there was a way to make them go away, I don't think the meds are working for me. I don't know if I need an increase in dose or what. How much do you take? I also want to excersice but am left in fear too. I do know someome that had cardiac arrest on a treadmill at the gym.
Update. I've been pretty lightheaded still and sorta brain foggy too. I've checked my bp at home and its 98/74. Of course at the docs it was 140/88! The doc is lowering my meds back down to 25mg per day. I hope that helps. I originally was only taking 12.5 mg per day and felt break thru palps. However the docs notices too many pvc's and said I need to increase my meds. So, don't know what is going to happen to me. It seems I don't tolerate the higher doses of toprol since it lowers my bp too much, BUT without it I have way too many pvc's. I go back to the docs in 6 weeks for another check up. Of course, I'm a bit worried about how this is all going to play out. It stinks because my pvc's are better on the higher doses but I feel so out of it and lightheaded that I can hardly move without feeling woozy.
I think the person who passed away on the treadmill had something other then what we have and probably did not even know it. Doesn't help though and they are still scary as hell. I've had them the past year, I am 33 years old and had the work ups too. The cardio and EP told me to have a good life and I never need to come back. PFFFt! My PCP wants to start my on Bystolic but I am a pill phobic too. I am scared to take anything.
I am 37 years old, and I have had PVCs for years now. I'm so frustrated! I wish I could talk to some people about this. I don't understand how they can be benign, but make me feel so miserable. I am a nervous wreck!
Hi I have been experiencing multiple pvcs daily and my dr is trying to put me on bystolic 5mgs can you let me know if that helps you?
Sorry I don't have an answer but I am a 46 year old female and have been having palpitations for a couple days, went to my pcp and he did a ekg which showed some pvc's which I have had for a couple years. Then he decided to do a 24 hour holtor monitor which showed very frequent pvc's which is new. Feels like my heart is coming out of my chest. So he put me on a betablocker, metoprolol, to see if it helps. So far it has helped a little but I am so tired from the medication. I am a nurse so I know the meds will help and the tiredness will get better but it is very frustrating.
have you had your thyroid tested? that can also cause heart problems espcially palpitations
I have had chronic frequent pvc's for 8 years, following the birth of my first child. I've never had any dizziness fainting etc, and an a couple of echocardiograms showed no heart disease or enlargement. My heart works fine, just much differently than most. I have around 20 to 25 thousand pvc's per day, svt runs, pvc runs (thousands of pvc runs per day). I've been told by several docs that this is a benign condition unless there is underlying disease which has been ruled out for me. My heart rhythm changes constantly from one to 4 pvc's in a row, to bigeminy for hours, trigeminy, sometimes several normal beats in a row. The point at which all these impulses begin is all over the place (versus just the sa node) I have decided that worrying about something that is functioning the same as everyone elses is a waste of time! I have learned to tune out the pounding in my chest a majority of the time and not stress about something I cannot change. Docs have told me they can prescribe beta blockers if the pvc's bother me but I decided the side effects of the meds long term are going to be worse than just letting what functions just fine be. It has been 8 years now and I have had no ill effects from not taking any meds and heart function is just fine. I do take a great multivitam supplement with the essential nutrients i need (including coenzyme q10) and about 2 grams of omega 3's per day (be careful to purchase molecularly distilled omega 3's to avoid mercury, pcb's and other contaminants!) These don't cure or lessen my arrhythmia now but it keeps me in good cardiovascular health for the future.
Up at 2am this morning looking for answers after several days (and years) of very frequent PVC's. I am a 41 year old female as well and have had PVCs for years, but since having a baby (he's 18 months now), I've experienced days where the PVCs are clustered and happen almost constantly (several a minute, sometimes 3-4 in a row).
I've had the holter monitor several times, an event monitor for 30 days, EKG. Same story as most of you, doctor doesn't seem concerned and thinks the episodes are benign.
However, when it's this frequent, it wakes me up, keeps me awake and causes a lot of anxiety. It's driving me nuts!
I've been taking magnesium (about 400 mg a day), Omega 3 and Vit D, which I thought were helping, but I think the randomness of the episodes has yet to be explained. I wish there were a major study on this problem, because I'd love to be involved in helping to figure it out. It's really disrupting my life.
PS - also haven't had caffeine for years, nor do I smoke or drink alcohol. No drugs of any kind, so don't have any "stimulant" explanation.
I am a 40 year old female and have been dealing with the PVC's for over 3 years. my story is pretty much the same as all the above. Potassium plays a serious role in heart health. I will suggest not discounting or ignoring it. Also, magnesium play the key role in potassium absorption so even if your potassium is ok check the magnesium- they go hand in hand. You will have to ask your doctor to do these tests in addition to any and all other blood. Be advised that a lack of sleep, heightened stress, heavy alcohol consumption or any combination can trigger PVC's or make them worse. Please be advised that thyroid disorders are contributors as well. I have been to the ER twice thinking my heart was in mortal distress to be told my potassium was low and magnesium too and reduce stress and get more sleep. The answers are very uncomplicated but the stress itself that is generated from our hearts going hay wire causes us to panic and make more of it than what it is. Listen to your heart, it is telling you something. Try to relax- get adequate sleep- have our trace minerals checked above and your thyroid.. maybe cut back on alcohol a little if you drink ..excercise... see if this helps.. your body is communicating with you...try to hear what it is saying. Hope this helps... It may just be this simple! Best wishes to all my PVS buddies.. we are in it together! ;o)
I’m a 38 year old male who has been suffering on and off with pvc’s/pacs for about 8 years. First off, I want to say that one of the things that has most helped me deal with the condition has been taking comfort in the advice of others in forums like this. So thank you to all contributors. Though I can’t completely figure what causes them to come or go (when dealing with them I’ll have them for 4-5 months then none for the same amount of time. Usually 2-3 per minute) I have noticed certain trends and triggers. When dealing with them I have to be careful to avoid alcohol, caffeine, and high GI foods that spike my blood sugar. Also having insufficient or disrupted sleep for a couple of days will definitely bring them on. When not dealing with them, these don’t seem to be an issue. Smoking marijuana seems to bring them on as well, which is one of many reasons I no longer do so.
Things that help: exercise, going outside for a walk, eating healthy, and getting proper sleep. I read about magnesium in one of the forums and started taking it in the beginning of the year. I do believe it helps but I can't be certain. I take 250mg of magnesium citrate in tablet form daily. Nothing fancy, just the cvs brand. If I am having a bad bout I take a water soluble magnesium potassium powder with 350mg of magnesium called “Natural Calm plus calcium”. This will lessen their frequency.
I have gotten the holter monitor, stress test, echocardiogram battery of tests a couple of times and the cardiologists says the same thing, “You’re fine, don’t worry”. The cardiologist did mention they only consider it to be an issue when it represents 20% or more of your beats, which I figure means 14 or more per minute. When at their worst it may be 7 a minute for me.
I am writing this from a good place as they have abated for the past 4 months. But I know they’ll come again. It’s okay. They’re annoying, stressful, and suck up a lot of mental energy but they will not kill you. If I find a definitive answer for kicking them for good, I’ll report back again. Otherwise hang in there friends, I may need your advice during one of the tough days.
You could careflully try uping your magnesium levels .. no more than 300mg a day . A deficiency of this electrolyte can cause issues as well as potassium ..
Also, as was the case for me, you can be suffering from chronic cholecystitis.
From what I have seen, this is comonly misdiagnosed because if doesnt cause the usual "sharp pain under the ribs on the right side". With chronic cholecystitis, your gallbladder is inflammed, and gone unchecked, the inflammation can slowly spread, causing inflammation of other organs in the area of the heart. Heartburn and type II diabetes are als symptoms. So if you are on antacids of the OTC type and think you have blood glucose issues, along with the PVC's, then you may have this. There is a gallbladder function test that can be performed to see how much the gallbladder contracts when performing its function. I would HIGHLY recommend this.
I've been suffering from PVCs for my entire life. When I was a child they scared me to death (truth be known they occasionally still do) and would trigger tachycardia, which only scared me more. For decades I was basically told I was a hysterical nut job ::: and to learn to live with it.
Fast forward some 5 decades later (I'm 57) and I'm still having PVCs ::: I'm told they're benign, yet they still scare me. I've learned some of the causes for mine.
I'm hypoglycemic, when my blood sugar runs low, I feel anxious, my vision gets fuzzy, my my heart rate becomes irregular and rapid. After eating something, my heart rate goes back to normal. I try not to skip meals, and make sure to eat throughout the day. I keep a jar of organic peanut butter in the fridge and grab a spoonful if I know I'm going to skip a meal. I also keep Larabars with me where ever I go.
If I eat a meal containing too much sugar, it triggers something called "dumping syndrome", which consists of severe tachycardia/PVCs, bloating, gas, nausea (sometimes vomiting) and diarrhea. I stopped eating all processed sugars, drink only magnesium rich water and orange juice. I have not had an episode in a couple of years.
FYI ::: I've learned that high fructose corn syrup can trigger PVCs, tachycardia and increased blood pressure in sensitive individuals. High fructose corn syrup can also trigger hypoglycemic episodes (as can consuming too much of any sugars), which is one of the main reasons I stopped eating sugar rich foods.
When I was in my 20s, I learned I have a hiatal hernia. If I eat large meals, or meals that are too spicy or fatty, I'll get stomach bloat, tachycardia and PVCs. So I eat smaller meals, spaced out during the day, and DO NOT lay down for at least an hour (or two) after meals.
I suffer from Celiac Disease (wheat allergy) along other severe allergies (dairy, soy, shellfish, medications, sulfa, etc.). Allergy symptoms can be both debilitating and confusing. The trouble is you can build a tolerance to foods for a while, and then suddenly out of the blue ::: whamo ::: you get hit with symptoms. At worst I swell up like a balloon and go into anaphylactic shock, at best I develop hives or severe tachycardia and PVCs. Dairy: bloat, gas, tachycardia, PVCs, Soy: SVT and PVCs, Shellfish:, anaphylactic shock, Sulfa meds: anaphylactic shock,
DysautonomiaMy autonomic nervous system is out of kilter. In my case, my cardiovascular system is hyper reactive to all sorts of things. My heart rate can go from 48 to 148 at the drop of a hat ::: and my blood pressure is out of whack as well. I drink 64oz of water I day. If I don't I develop tachycardia, PVCs and low blood pressure. Walking helps mediate my Dysautonomia symptoms. I walk from 1 - 2 hours EVERY DAY. If I don't walk every day, my heart rate will run too high and my blood pressure with either run too high or too low. These days it's been running so low I've needed to ad extra salt to my diet. Note too much salt lowers your potassium levels, so take care. I eat a potassium rich diet.
Because I have a hyper reactive nervous system, I go out of my way to avoid all stimulants. Chocolate (sigh, causes PVCs and tachycardia), high sugar (causes PVCs and tachycardia), caffeinated foods and/or beverages (cause PVCs and tachycardia). Yeah I miss chocolate, but I certainly DO NOT miss being hooked up to a monitor with multiple PVCs and a heart rate of 140+.
Stress reactions ::: my worst bug-a-boo and biggest PVC trigger. I'm diagnosed with PTSD and panic disorder ::: don't ask which came first. I take .5 mg Lorazepam 3 times a day, I can take up to 3 more on bad days. I meditate, write music, pray, watch TV or listen to music when I'm in the panic zone.
Recently I lost five family members, two of whom I cared for at home. I used to work in the medical field as a Respiratory Therapist, so I thought I could handle it better than most. But stress is stress regardless of what your background is, or how many years you worked in the medical field. I've learned I have white coat hypertension (I basically panic when someone takes my blood pressure in a clinical setting) which has made for some interesting blood pressure readings. When BP is up so is heart rate and PVCs (surprise surprise). Naturally there are a number of doctors out their convinced I'm hypertensive (I most definitely am NOT).
Lorazepam (not something I'm thrilled to be taking) has been a Godsend, as when I take beta blockers and/or hypertensive meds my BP can plummet. These days my morning blood pressure runs between 70/30 - 100/50, so anti hypertensives are out for the time being. Suffice it to say my life can be, ahem, interesting.
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Late last August I suffered a mini stroke (not a TIA) something related to the almost daily migraines I'd been having. I take low dose aspirin and have refused the other meds because of my allergies and other health issues. PVC's have been something I deal with when the fear of an other stroke kicks in. I worry about not taking the beta blockers and other meds my specialists want me to take. I don't want to offend my doctors, but I also worry about the fact that my system is so exquisitely sensitive to foods and medications.
Off and on for years I've had EKGs which showed I had a RBBB (the type you're born with) which later vanished. I was recently diagnosed with a LBBB (the type caused by damage, ie various causes) and told my L ventrical shows signs of slight stiffening. I've been told is proof of my hypertension. Over the decades I've had multiple EKGs, treatmills, Thalium stress test, echo cardiograms, MRIs, etc., etc., NONE of which have show any indication of acute heart disease. As I'm a woman, I'm told I more than likely suffer from microvascular disease (MVD), yet an other sign of hypertension.
This I know. Given half a chance ::: the body will heal itself. They did a study a few years back on how 30 minutes of walking a day, has the ability to transform a person's life. Walking helps reduce stress, cholesterol and over time ::: actually reduces the amount of plaque built up in the body. Loosing weight has a dramatic effect on blood pressure, blood sugar and the body's overall state of health.
On days like today, when my PVCs are high, I need to remind myself of my body's ability to heal ::: to remember and these PVCs will pass, as they have in the past.
Closing thought. The last hour of your life only lasts an hour. I can't believe the countless hours I've spent in needless worry and anguish over my health. I work every day to avoid wasting time worrying about EVERYTHING. My goal is to stay in the moment, concentrate on living well and enjoying life. Haven't quite gotten their yet ::: but I'm working on it.
wow, thank you so much for sharing your life experience. Im 27, 148, 5'9. I eat healthy and live in new York. I have gone thru 2 cardiologist already, now im at Cornell Univercity hospital, My 3rd and last option before I convert to the holistic faith. I refuse to belive that I should just live with it. I refuse to believe that beta blockers are the magic drug. I refuse to give up my social life.... im young, cute and loving life. Im really going to take your advise and find my triggers. I have had low blood pressure all my life and now its near high. I have experience dumping syndrome but never understood it until you shines your light on me. Then at my dotors appt today I asked my doc "why does the pvc's get worse when im hungry?" he responce was "interesting". My stress level is thru the roof... job, kid, taking the train (horrid). But i must say that I love what you said "concentrate on living well and enjoying life". Its worth the effort. good luck to you and I wish you the best. Cheers!
I am a 46 year old female have had frequent PVC's for years. My obgyn first asked about an irregular heartbeat after my youngest daughter was born 12 years ago. I went to primary doctor had stress test and echo done at that time and was told that I was having some PVC's,that they were benign and if they did not bother me that medication was not indicated at this time. In 2007 I had a complete hysterectomy and started estrogen therapy. Low dose patch applied twice a week. Later that year my younger brother died suddenly and his doctor recommended that my other brother and I see a cardiologist for an evaluation. It had been 8 years since my last echo, etc. To my surprise (and my cardiologist as well) I was diagnosed with cardiomyopathy (EF 40%) and frequent PVC's. For the last 5 years I have taken Carvedilol, Ramipril and an asprin a day. I had multiple test and any other cardiac disease was ruled out. In 2011 when I wore the holter monitor my PVC's were about 17% of all heartbeats (fairly high rate). When I went for my six month follow up visit in January 2012, cardiologist repeated echo and holter. Echo was same at about 35-40% EF. Doctor stated that if the holter results were about the same (17% range) that we would talk about an ablation for V-tach. When the holter monitor was read, the frequency of PVC's had jumped to 41% of all heartbeats. That averages 35,000 to 45,000 per day. No wonder I was so tired all the time!! My Electrophysiologist ordered a cardiac MRI. Results: no structual damage or abnormalities of the heart. Scheduled an ablation for April 3rd. High hopes of getting rid of PVC's and coming off all medication. When I woke up on Tuesday, doctor explained that they could not get to the place that is producing PVC's due to the fact that it is outside of my heart, not inside where they can reach for ablation. They tried to reach through both legs and my left arm. Now I am on Flecainide, 100mg twice a day. Very disappointed that results were not better. I follow up next week to see what long term plan is. If the new medication does not control PVC's, not sure what the next option will be. I have had several runs of V-tach and all of this gets scary after awhile. At times I feel like this is so tragic and at other times I know that I am blessed and I could be so much worse off than I am. So much to deal with physically and emotionally and not many people understand the stress and worry that come along with this condition. With all of this said, after all the research I have done over the years, I am convinced that my condition is hormone related and would love some suggestion of what direction I should go now.
I'm really curious to know if you're taking an aspirin every day. I'd like to know if anyone else has lost their PVCs after getting off of aspirin. It made a huge difference for me.
Hi all. I have had PVC's, but now I don't. The culprit? Diet, I think, and specifically Psyllium fiber supplement I was taking. I stopped taking it, the PVC's stopped. I started taking it again, PVC's started again. So I stopped, and now don't have PVC's. Taking Benefiber, which doesn't have psyllium and am okay.
The history of how I got here: Started having pvc, went to VA doctor who told me it was benign (of course). Holter monitor didn't show anything. I was taking a mild psyllium supplement at the time, but didn't get any connection. One day I was working hard, drank two Cokes, ate pizza, had a strong attack of pvc. Went to emergency, they saw the pvc on their EKG, just let me rest until they went away, told me it was benign, not to worry. Watch caffeine intake thye said, that causes pvc.
So I began to record when I had pvc, what I was doing at the time, what I ate. Tried avoliding coffee, but that didn't make a diff. Tried taking an antacid with breakfast, that seemed to help for over a year, had only rare pvc after that.
THEN, VA sent me a new psyllium formula, much stronger. PVC's started up again. Didn't associate the two at first, tried all kinds of diet changes, drank cider vinegar, other concoctions I found on the internet, both acids and non acidy. Nothing worked until I finally stopped taking psyllium and that seemed to do it.
So...I don't know if psyllium is the answer to others, but I'll wager it has something to do with diet. My advice, keep a journal of what you do & eat every day, of pvc occurances, try to find a link between the two.
FOR ALL WHO SUFFER WITH PVC'S. PLEASE READ
Yes, there is nothing worse than being reminded of one’s mortality day in, day out. But there is hope- and it’s not with Western Meds. And I, just like everyone else here, am looking for the same thing; answers, which we look to abate this situation. READ ON…
For three years I’ve wrestled with an out-of-nowhere PVC that scared the hell outta me in 2008. I have trained 3-4 days a week for 10 years, so this was a shock. Since then it’s been holistic management. And disagree or not, trust me on this- NO WESTERN MEDS WILL FIX YOU-EVER! And, possibly, will only make it worse. Now, I have a two-year degree in anatomy too, with an emphasis on nutrition, so I had some slight advantages due to experience. But I give this information to you as advice ONLY (catch my drift) as I can not make a claim to treat, cure or diagnose.
This HERB I am mentioning has worked wonders for me. It will not fully correct the PVC's, but will greatly manage it; MOTHERWORT. It’s a smooth-muscle herb/tea that was initially used for child-bearing. The herb strategically targets smooth muscle; which is what our heart is and it relaxes the muscle. The first time I used MOTHERWORT ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonurus_cardiaca) I seen results in less than 48 hours. The use of this herb is WAY powerful and very safe (though DO NOT TAKE if pregnant) but is not easy to find. Go to your local herbal store for details. Comes in it’s natural form and must be steeped in a tea-ball (they will know what this is if you don’t). The use of MOTHERSWORT will enable you to manage your PVC’s, be it hormonal, low-levels of minerals, etc. My suggestion is below and is what I do.
*MOTHERWORT- Herb taken 1-2 times a day, before bed. Herb is VERY BITTER so added Honey is a help.
*250MG of Magnesium (I take a regular tablet, blend it and take it with 1000MG Vit-C in the morning). Mag is almost impossible to digest and regardless of serum blood-level tests your Dr may have done, the test does not articulate correct muscle levels- regardless of what your Dr. says.
***Acupuncture/Herbalist: Go to a traditional Chinese medicine Dr. They will put you on an additional regiment (though you can do this when you have time/money as this is not cheap). However, the above mentioned is WAY CHEAP and effective in of itself- less than $20-25.00 a month. (I even had a discussion with my herbalist about this herb and he finally agreed that yes, it would target the heart, though not initially intended for that purpose).
*No shell fish,canned foods, spices (if it makes you sweat it’s too hot or if your chasing it with liquid), caffeine (even decaf- as it’s still acidic), artificial sweeteners (Splenda is okay- I think), cola/pop.
That’s about it people. And if you take my advice with a grain of salt (as you should)- just make sure it’s Sea Salt. J
Please make sure you speak to your doctor before taking any herbal supplements. I am a fan of herbals, but even the most common herbal therapies (like gingko and garlic) can be dangerous with certain medical conditions--others are downright killer (kava-kava destroys your liver). Just because it's herbal, all natural from the earth, doesn't mean it's safe. Remember, a mushroom grows, but the wrong one can kill you. Arsenic and cyanide are both all natural.
So, ask your doctor. As long as he says it is safe--go for it. (On a side note, the doc will probably tell you that it is not worth the money or that herbals are a waste of time--they are not a waste and can be very helpful.) Just make sure that #1 Doc says it's safe & #2 tell all health professionals that you are taking it. Even though it's an herbal...it's still a drug, and as such it can interact with other medications.
Good luck... hope you all find a safe effective solution.
I am an almost 43 year old female who has had SVT since I was 21. Ironically, 2 years ago while I was in Paramedic school studying Cardiology, I also started to suffere from frequent PVC's. It scared me so bad I called my other Paramedic friends and they sent out a unit to hook me up and see what was going on. Nothing was recorded. But while monitoring each other in class, they caught a few. My instructor told me to call my cardiologist and ask him what he thought. Since I was asymptomatic, he told me that it was begnin and every has them every day. Some of us are just more sensitive to them than others. I was on Cardizem for my SVT but stopped that all together. It took about 3 months for them to fade out and stop bothering me.
Now two years later, I am getting SVT monthly again, which I contribute to hormones and/or stress, and just three weeks ago started getting slight symptoms of PVC's again after 2 years of no problems. They started 2 days after my mega stress test that we have to take in my state to get the clear to be certified in EMS.
I did have a dizzy spell 2 days ago, which I think was low blood pressure, and then got sick to my stomach that night with BAD acid indigestion. I ate a few antacids and eventually felt better. But yesterday I was cursed with the day long runs of bi and even trijiminy. I took a Zantac and the symptoms seemed to go away for about 2 hours, then came back.
I am going to err on the side that it is hormonal and gastric related. I drink decaf but think I should cut that back drastically and just see what happens. I might even go eat a banana for breakfast :)
It is SOOOOOO good to know I am not alone in this. We should have a 'group' on facebook so we can keep up with each other and how our docs/meds/syptoms/ and new found treatments help or hurt.
You can get me on email at email@example.com
Be still my heart ~
My husband, 39 yrs old has recently been diagnosed with frequent pvc's and bigemeny. He is suffering. Anxiety, light headed etc..(all the same symptoms as many of you). It is maddening. And many sleepless nights. Needless to say this is affecting our finances due to inability to work at times and doctors.
He has been smoke free, caffeine, and alcohol free for 3 months now. Walking 3 miles a day. The situation has not improved. (Beta blockers have not helped).
I have contacted Dr. Bill Deagle with Nutri Medical Report for a Natural approach. He does have suggested remedy for Frequent pvc's. Also another practioner on line advised Himalyan salt and Nori seaweed for full spectrum minerals that will bring the electrical system back into balance.
We have not tried these as yet, but thought I would post to share the info.
I can totally relate.....i was diagnosed 18 years agao and apart from the odd day here and there that was bad i have had very few up until this last two months ...i have been clobbered with pvc's and pac's as well as bursts of 3 to 4 pvc's together which scare the life out of me ...i have had all the blood work ups . numerous ekg's with just as many trips to the ER , i've had a stress echocardiogram and all my results have been normal ...can you believe such a horrible thing to be normal??? ....my new primary care doc has put me on ativan because my anxiety is so severe ....my husband is at his wits end and keeps saying he wants his wife back ...i'm still here but i cant see me through all the pvc's and anxiety attacks ..this is causing a greagt strain on our marriage and our whole life ...finances are in tatters as is everything else...beta blockers havent helped me any either ..although the doc has raised mine twice in the last two months ....i would try anything to make these things go away ...its life altering for sure :(
I have had bigemeny. It feels terrible. I suffer from anxiety and panic attacks. Those can make you feel light headedand also exacerbate the pvc's. I want to take the natural route to treat the arrhythmia. I still go to work, sometimes feeling really awful, but being active on the job often makes the pvc's stop. I get them sometimes after eating. They seem to lessen at night. Sometimers if I don't think about or dwell on them they go away too. The last time I had frequent pvc's I decided to just act as if they were not there. I didn't even realise when they went away and I didn't have them again for a couple of years until the recent loss of my mother. If the nutritionists approach works, please let us know. Good luck! Ingmar
I am amazed at how many people have this problem. I was working the other day and fainted, splitting my head open. An emergency room visit resulted in 14 stitches. I have had these episodes since I was 17 years old (I turned 26 today) and until my ER visit the other day, none of the dr.s I've seen has found anything. I was diagnosed with PVC's and have been trying to do a little research before my appt with a cardiologist and maybe save from any big suprises. I have read that caffeine and stress are large factors....Other than a peice of chocolate here and there I do not consume caffeine, and no have abnormal stress. I am pregnant right now and am concerned that this could cause a potential problem. Thank you to everyone for posting your own experiences and advice. Good luck to you all.
Brand new here, but not brand new to PVCs! Was in the hospital at 3am this morning, got zero sleep. Hope I can sleep tonight.
Mine started about 15 years ago, when I was pregnant. The past few weeks is the worst it's ever been. Almost constant, and horrible when I lay flat. After hours of hundreds or thousands, my blood pressure also drops and just getting up to go to the bathroom causes my heart to compensate by beating so fast, up to 150 beats a minute at it's worst. This will last about 10 minutes or so, then it slows...then it may start again as I move around again.
They did an EKG--normal. I am having another echocardiogram in a day and a half.
The monitor showed lots of extra beats but I wasn't medicated. Thyroid checked normal. No anemia. Sometimes I hate it when everything is "normal" I'd rather find an answer!
I had a hysterectomy a year ago, I'm 43. I normally feel myself ovulate but haven't felt it this month--so I wonder if it's hormonal. I've heard even if you left your ovaries in...which I did...that your body may still start menopause within that first year.
One doctor did mention something called "POTS" to me before, so I've been reading up on that. Hard to tell though if the low blood pressure I have causes the PVCs or if the PVCs cause the low blood pressure. I do take Atenolol, 50 mg total a day. 25 in the morning and 25 in the evening. Did really well for years on it, and sometimes I wonder if the dose isn't working anymore, or if it's just making everything worse.
Anyway, will have the echo and see what the cardiologist says.
My email is firstname.lastname@example.org if anyone ever wants to chat. My best to everyone.
I was put on Acebutolol and got instant relief.
Ask your doctor.
I have had pvcs for two years now. I am very atheletic and work out 4 days a week. I am 52 years old. All my blood work is fine and my ekg is oerfect. I started using 100% whey protein and taking amino acids three times a day. I went from 200 pvcs a day to 10 a day. They no longer bother me while I sleep. My heart specialist has no clue why this is working. The toprol 50 mg. the doc gave me just wasn't enough by itself. I still take 50 mg. a day of toprol along with the protein and the amino acids. Im not a nutritionist or a doctor of any kind. Im just letting you know this works for me. I take a whey protein product called Gold Standard. And the amino acids are called BCAA amino acids. It has worked for other people I know so good luck and post a note if it works for you too.
I have been reading alot of these responses you got on here...I just want to say to you and everyone that has responded and that has pvc's. I have had them since 1989. 23 years now and I am still alive. When I first started getting them I also would panic, run to the emergency rooms and be told nothing was wrong. Well needless to say there must be nothing wrong because it has been 23 years and I am still here. Even though it may feel like something is wrong and it is the hardest thing in the world to deal with they must be normal. I do smoke but no caffeine or any drugs or alcohol. I still have times that they make me nervous but I have learned over time that I can deal with them. I will have to say that in the past year they have gotten more frequent but not sure why. Instead of getting fear from them I get angry and do more of the things I want to do..haha!! Not going to let them stop me anymore. I had panic attacks for several years after they started. Would sit at the hospital all day in my car and sometimes sleep there just to feel relaxed. Now that is crazy. I have ended the panic attacks on my own..no medication at all. Just mind over matter. It is a hard task to complete but I did it and so can you all!!! So lets say someday and maybe someday they take us down but in the meantime I could have spent the last 23 years thinking this was my day to die and not do anything or live the life and day that I had. Pray, love, find what you enjoy and don't be afraid to do it. Get mad...whatever it takes to make you strong and soon you will see that pvc's are not controlling you they are just a part of you. Love and take care!! If anyone needs to talk my e-mail is email@example.com
Hi! I have had PVC's off and on and they are uncomfotable and botherson. I too have a potassum problem of being alittle low. When I was given a small potassuim supplement the PVC's and muscle craming went away.
Try foods that are high in potassium such as bananas, potatoes, etc. Look for potassium rich foods. If levels are still alittle low a supplement from you doctor will really help!
Hope this helps!
I have been studying heart dysrhythmias in nursing school and also work in the health care field. The thing that I have heard and witnessed is that PVC's can be associated with stimulants such as caffine and nicotine. PVC's can also be effected by electrolyte imbalance such as a change in your potassium level. I know many people that go through their daily routine with PVC's and are fine. If you are concerned I would suggest to keep a diary of when these happen, what you were doing and any other information such as stressors in your life, caffine intake or any other stimulants. This would be a great tool for you when you go speak to your doctor
i am only 17 amd have a pvc whatis wrong with me
i have PVC's almost everyday and i have found out while checking my pulse after feeling them in my chest that i can make them change or stop by simply changing position . i think the reason i get them is because i have COPD and my doctors pretty much just ignore them .anyway i read on the the internet that if you are having heart palpations you can make them stop by sitting down while leaning forward and contracting or pushing the way you would during a bowel movement . so i tried changing positions and it changed my PVC's .
One thing that can cause SVT and PVCs is caffine. In someone who has occurance of both, another factor can be stress. I have both issues and have had to cut caffine out. Be aware that many medication blends and herbal blends have caffine. If you haven't cut this out of your diet. You might give it a try and see if it helps.
56 year old female -
Increasingly short of breath over the past year. Shortness of breath got worse over the last 5 months (from January 2012). Suddenly slight chest pressure along with PVCs started, and I made my first appt with a cardio. The PVCs were a totally new experience, which concerned me too.
The appt was exactly one week after the pressure and PVCs started - on a Friday. On the Thursday before the appt., the chest pressure (which wasn't really severe but the shortness of breath was) would come and not go away, so I called 911 at 1:30 in the morning the day of my appt with the cardio.
In the ambulance and in the ER - My EKG was normal - no ST elevation. BP was normal after I got to the ER and was able to calm down. Chest X-ray normal. One thing - Troponin levels slightly elevated. That alerted them that something was wrong with the heart and scheduled an angiogram which turned into an angioplasty and a DES (drug eluting stent) of the RCA (right coronary artery) which was 99% blocked.
Hospital called what I had a Non STEMI (Non ST Elevation Myocardial Infarction) but cardios said no heart damage and called it ACS (Acute Coronary Syndrome) Unstable Angina - NO HEART ATTACK!! - even with elevated Troponin levels. I still had some blood flow, even though very little in the RCA.
Anyway, now I am on the typical stent drug protocol - Plavix, Aspirin, Carvedilol (beta blocker), Lisinopril (BP med), and Hydrochlorothiazide (Diuretic).
The stent was inserted a little over a month ago, along with starting the meds. NOW the PVCs are 10 times worse and sometimes (not always) they hurt my chest. Sometimes they are every 5 seconds or so and they never stop - 24 hours. I try to ignore them but can't because of the physical pain they sometimes cause.
All the cardios seem to say the PVCs are benign, so is it just coincidence that they started about a week or so before the chest pressure which caused me to go to the ER? Had never had them before! And NOW they are worse!!
Looking for some answers from cardios - haven't gotten any!!
I have them as well . . . been much worse since I donated blood a few weeks ago. Not sure if that could have caused them more???
I am more stressed than usual.
BUT - I'm always stressed.
My fear is the toll that this irregular functioning of the heart is taking on my heart?? It can't be good long term on the heart itself and I would THINK it would therefore have an effect on the rest of my organs if the heart is functioning properly right? I mean we are like machines . . . one thing isn't working quite right, doesn't it throw the others off and really create more wear and tear???
I hope I'm wrong, but it just makes sense to me that it would effect other things.
I refuse to take a beta blocker at age 41. Basically was told would need them for the rest of my life. No thank you - that is just a band aid right?
Ughh. . . getting more tests tomorrow but after reading all these posts I feel like saving my money! :)
Hi everybody! Well, I too am one of the "GANG" here. I have had PVC's off and on all my life.....now....ALL the time. What a pain in the tuchis! I have tried all the advice, eat this, dont eat that, drink this not that, take this not that blah blah blah and I have found that it really just doesnt matter what I do or don't do, "they" are still there. I have been in the ER, admitted to the hosp, had all the tests (with 0 insurance I might add) and still the answer is always the same.....we have no answers. It used to feel llike a carp was flipping in my chest, now it feels like a bowling ball is being thrown around. It does take your breath away and really makes you question if you are gonna die. And its harmless!?!? I have come to the conclusion that it is somewhat hormonal (as I'm 49 even tho I tell people I'm way younger ) I have really taken note of my fluctuations and I am now convinced thats what is making me "feel" crazy. I know men suffer as well and even tho they have different hormones, they are still hormones. And the lil buggers can be very hard to figure out and nail down. I will be going to see a homeopath that specializes in this subject and will let you know how it turns out, but until then, I wish you all joy, peace and "HAPPY FLUTTERING"!
I was looking for answers and found this blog. Oh happy day Thank you everyone for your honesty and great ideas for dealing with these episodes. I'm a 57 yr old female that is totally spooked by PVCs. It started with a massive panic attack in the middle of the night after severe stress was being stuffed down. Accupucture cured those attacks . Years later I had an EKG before surgery, supposedly normal. Then the applying for life insurance I was denined due to abnormal EKG. I knew I was feeling something that was terribly wrong but chalked it up to the Hormone replacement after a hysterectomy. In getting to the bottom of that bad EKG I found this info. Apparently I'm doing everything wrong but that will now change. No more thinking that this would be an okay day to die,pacing the house all night after being awakened by dizzyness and pain.
I'm a 43 yr old woman, & have had pvc's since I was 17 years old. Have always been athletic & very active. Lap swam swam since I was 11 and danced since I was 20. Cholesterol and bloodwork is picture perfect. I eat right, am a good weight, do everything that most Americans don't. Doc says they are harmless but they can seriously make you crazy and ruin many otherwise good days. I had 4 children in my 20's and the pvc's were really bad off and on during all of my pregnancies. Pvc's even now are worse right before and during my period. Doc's say harmones play a role. Doc's also say that athletic people are more prone to them. Tall thin people feel them more. (which I am) Often heavy weight people have them and are completely unaware. Had an ablation in 2003 which was mostly unsuccessful. They are worse when I rest or sleep and I've read up on it & there is a good explanation. Lack of sleep or sickness makes it unbearable sometimes. Wouldn't wish them on anyone, makes for some lousy days but always good to know that they aren't life threatening even tho they make you feel like you want to die.
I can really sympathize with the stories I've read here. I've had a pretty good ending (so far) to my PVCs. I'm pretty sure I've found the ‘cause' in my case.
My name is Jay, I'm 62. I think my PVCs began sometime in 2005. In Dec 2006 I was admitted to the hospital after experiencing some really weird heart ‘feelings'. I had been having "really tired" spells and I learned they were caused by periods of bi- or tri-geminy PVCs. The first episode in the hospital occurred after a meal.
History: In 2000 I visited a cardiologist for the 1st time. High cholesterol got me on Lipitor and a baby aspirin every day. After the PVC diagnosis, I started taking Coreg/Carvidelol; no change. Further tests also showed that my mitral valve had a pretty good leak. The PVC runs with a leaky valve combination made me really tired. An angiogram showed I had no blockages. I've never been diagnosed with heart failure, hypertension, and I've never had a chest pain or angina, never smoked, only 1 cup of coffee a day. Nuclear stress tests have shown clear blood vessels all around even as recent as 2/2012. In 2007 I had surgery to repair my mitral valve. Now my mitral valve doesn't leak but I had two a-fib episodes within 8 days of heart surgery and the PVCs were back within 2-3 weeks. Two ablation procedures didn't get rid of the PVCs. At my last visit with the electro-physiologist (6/2008) I asked if my crooked spine could have any impact on the PVCs - I was told it did not. In Sept 2008 I paid a visit to a chiropractor and began treatment, 3 adjustments per week. Initially it made me very sensitive to cold drinks and within 3 weeks I had two more a-fib episodes. The cold sensitivity wore off and my stomach began to feel much better, less irritated, and the PVCs were remarkably reduced. Because of the a-fib, my doctor insisted on adding a blood thinner and Flecainide to my med list.
After no a-fib episodes for a couple of years, I was able to get rid of the blood thinner, but I was told to take a full aspirin daily instead of the baby aspirin. This made my stomach more unsettled again. Then in Jan 2012 I had another a-fib episode (probably a bit dehydrated); so back on a blood thinner, but NO MORE ASPIRIN. Guess what - my stomach hasn't felt this good in 4-6 years. I have been virtually PVC free since Jan 2012; I can't say I've even noticed a dozen of them in the last 3 months. Woo-hoo. Who'd a thunk? Twelve years of taking aspirin. Makes me wonder if I had dumped the aspirin early on, I might have avoided heart valve surgery.
I hope this helps some of you, or gives you something to consider.
Hi rayP144, I have dealt with similar issues to include a small heart attack over the years, and I know it is scary,but worrying about it makes it worse, sounds like you have been checked out but maybe you should have them do a 24 hr heart moniter, so they can see them while your at home doing normal activities, if they haven't already. I know it is hard to relax when you have real health problems, believe me I have had my share to include 2 kidney transplants, but at least for me when I worry often I have more pvc's, if you try to relax and maybe do some meditation or deep breathing exercises it might help,just a thought,best wishes.ALS
I am 36, and was diagnosed with PVC's when I was 30. I run and exercise all the time, and just finished a half marathon. My doctor told me that with proper diet, avoiding caffiene, and chocolate will definitely help control the heart palpations and keep me from having to take medication. Also, I notice that if I eat too much (stuffing myself!) it makes my heart act up. The other thing that makes my heart "skip" like crazy is drinking too much alcohol, or mixing alcohol with caffiene, for example a red bull and vodka drink. So basically what I do is try to do is keep everything in moderation.
My problem is similar to the rest of you. Mine started in May 2011 when I was diagnosed with a Vitamin D deficiency. No, I did not have the PVC's until I began Vitamin D3 Therapy. A few weeks after being on VD3 as the Endocrinologist suggested, I began getting chronic 24/7 heart palpitations...I have never had heart palps until now). I didn't connect VD3 to the palps at first. But, after several "tests"(at least 6 or 7 times) of going off of the VD3, I soon realized that the palps coincided with the Vitamin D. Within about a week to 2 weeks the palps were COMPLETELY gone AFTER going off of it. And then when I would go back on, I would get them again in about a weeks time....and always chronically.... 24/7!! :/So, now I know the cause...what next?? I started ONLY getting my VD3 from the sun (daily) thinking maybe I had an allergic reaction or something to the supplement. Once again....the palps came back. I tested the theory another 3 or 4 times.Well, after some reading I figured I may be Magnseium deficient due to the introduction of Vitamin D as Vitamin D requires a lot of Magnesium to function properly....So, I began taking Magnesium. I felt some relief but only in the severity not the duration. I still have them 24/7 (for the most part). I have noticed very few consistent triggers and there are no REAL patterns which is VERY frustrating. I did have several ECG'S done that came back normal, except for 1 time, they could actually see them and said I had PVC's and should see a cardiologist. But, I am certain I do not have a heart problem. This all started after the introduction of Vitamin D3 (SUN & SUPPLEMENTS). They are frightening, constant and YES, they keep me from doing things like exercise, hanging out with family or friends, etc. Mine seem to get worse when I take a shower (heat) or sit in a jacuzzi. As well as exercise and sometimes worse after eating or even drinking water. They definitely get worse around my period and I know I am Estrogen dominant (progesterone deficient) due to a blood test last year (I get chronic painful ovarian cysts as well).So....is this hormonal? Is this my heart? I eat healthy (most of the time ;o)). I know Vitamin D is a hormone so, maybe this jump started something in my body...I really don't know.....and I unfortunately do not have any great answers. But, ever since I started Vitamin D Therapy, these pesky palps are ever present.But, I DO have some good information to share: I sought help from a Naturopath who suspected a Thyroid issue and had me start taking a Bovine Thyroid Tissue supplement called Standard Process - Thytrophin PMG. So far, in a month's time of not taking the suggested dose (I started out slowly and gradually) I HAVE noticed an improvement in my breathing, which I never thought I had a problem with...but I can breath much better which makes me think it does something for the oxygen in the body. But, my point is, is that this product is supposed to help balance the Thyroid....and I am feeling better. Not as fatigued and the palps are less severe and less frequent (and less bouts of the dizziness/light headedness that is hard to describe). It may not be a miracle cure, but I definitely feel better and it has only been 1 month so far. You may experience a headache when you first start it, but it goes away within a day or so. I am a 37 year old female. I take a whole foods multi-vitamin/mineral everyday and a about 600 mg of Magnesium Citrate by Solaray. And I am currently taking 3 tablets of the Thytrophin a day. My best to everyone and their issue. I hate these things!!! But, I am doing better after 10 months FINALLY...I hope it gets even better.....crossing my fingers.
I just read several posts that claim to associate PVC's with gas or acid reflux. I have frequently made that connection as well...it seems that my PVC's are more frequent and more noticable when I am having reflux problems. I also have found that sleeping on my back, propped up on several pillows helps.
OK, mine is a bit different. 62 year old male that had been diagnosed with Congestive Heart Failure about 15 years ago. Primary problem is atrial fibulation. I can generally tell I am in afib when I check my heart beat and feel the PVCs.
I am now on my 3rd med for the afib.
However, now for the PVC's I have been a huge user of aspertame in Crystal Lite. After having been on the new med, every time I used the aspertame, I started back with the PVC's (and the afib) From what I've read, not everyone has this as a trigger, but it seems to go that way for me.
I swear, it's insane how the damn things seem to disappear as soon as any sort of medical person appears with a monitor or some such. I have had EKGs, and echocardiograms and nothing ever appeared. I wore a Holter Monitor and became frustrated because suddenly, when I wanted them, they didn't seem to be occurring. Thank goodness I seem to have them whether or not I'm feeling them because the results were stated to me as follows: "Well, there does appear to be some abnormal rhythms...however they are apparently normal for you. There is no need for a follow up appointment". I think mine run in a vicious cycle. I feel a few and they make me nervous. The more nervous I get, the more frequent and noticible the PVCs become. I then go through a spell of constantly checking my pulse which makes me feel like a hypochondriac! I just found this site today, and Thank Goodness I did. I feel less insane already.
i had exactly the same thing happen to me. I went to the ER with heart jumping all over the place but when they put on the ecg cords on me, it settled down!! they gave me two Valium to take that night and the following which i did, it did calm me down. But today its back again, i am so glad i found all these other people the same as me. I had a couple of eptopic beats but tht is all they found, everything else was very good. Which i was so pleased about, but that doesnt help me freaking out when it happens again.. I was checking my pulse almost all day, but i have stopped that as that just made me more anxious.
I also suffer from SVT's and am on beta blockers for them, i am wondering if this is something from the svt's or something new? oh i dont know...:(
Hi, I am 34 year old female. I started having pvc's over a year ago but they were so infrequent that I was able to just ignore them. Then in 11/2011 I was about to go to bed and I started having pvc's but this was different, it was every 15 seconds for about 3 hours. I was terrified and went to my general practitioner the next day. They did and ekg and of course no episodes so it showed normal and doctor said I was fine. I went home and it happened again about a week later. I went to a Cardiologist this time. Had ekg and echocardiogram and of course it was normal. What I am feeling is not normal and I'm scared to death. I wore a holter montior for 48 hours and had 1 pvc and 3 pac. I am told they are benign but I feel like there MUST be a trigger, there MUST be a cause. I weight 220 and I am 5'3", my doctor says lose weight and will probably go away. I know tons of people that are overweight that do not deal with this condition. I was given Bystolic which is a beta blocker because I was on lisinoprl for HBP. The Bystolic seemed to have worked for about 3 weeks and now they are back and I seem to have more than I did even before starting this medication. I do not know what to do. My Cardiologist is not concerned but how can I live in terror 24/7. As I type I am having a pvc or pac, can not tell the difference, about every 6 beats and has been goin on now for 4 hours. I am so scared and no one understands!
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I'm a 54 year old female and started having PVC's three years ago. I have also had echos, EKGs and was put on a Holter monitor but all tests came back normal. My cardiologist said they are not life threatening, just very annoying. Mine get worse in the evening, especially when I lay down for bed. I can't lay on my left side because I feel them more. I find if I lay on my back or right side, I can get to sleep. Once I'm asleep, my heart seems to calm down. The worst part of mine is the cough I have because of them. It sounds like I have a very bad bronchial problem and BTW, I've never smoked. PVC's have not stopped me from daily exercising or going about my normal life, but they are the most annoying thing I've ever had to deal with. I refuse to try any medications as my goal is to stay off meds for as long as I possibly can, so I guess I will just keep experimenting with different supplements in the hopes that something will help. I've already given up caffeine which seemed to help at first but now not so much. Unless you've had them, it's hard to explain to people what you're feeling, so I feel for all of you that are experiencing a party going on in your chest.
I started getting these around a month ago after one night of consuming several peanut butter cookies! Well the 1st time I got it was in November for 1 day only, and would only happen when I was rubbing snuff (nicotine) but I quit and have been off it since then, but then back in mid january of this year they started again after eating peanut butter cookies, and haven't went away. The 1st day was so bad when they started, it was several a minute for the entire day, but now they seemed to slow down most times and morning and late evenings are best for me, afternoon is when I start feeling them more, especially after eating... mine feels like a "skipped" beat here and there every minute or so, and i went to ER a month ago when it started and EKG/BLOOD WORK/URINE TEST came back normal, showed nothing even though i had a palp when the EKG was going on, and doc heard it too when he listened to heart, but he said my heart sounded normal? I've been so worried the past month. I'm a 32 yr old male that had dwarfism and in a wheelchair. I haven't had caffiene except chocolate here and there for several years, don't drink coffee or soda, i was also diagnosed with high blood pressure the same time these came on, and am wondering maybe it's the reason for these? It does seem to help some hearing others with the same problem.
I cough too. Sometimes it's like an uncontrollable itch in the upper chest. I don't really like the idea of heart meds. I already take medication for anxiety and bloof pressure. I don't feel the pvc's when I am in bed or when I first wake up. It's usually after breakfast and then again around lunchtime. They sometimes calm down by evening. Maybe because I calm down more in the evening. I have a lot of them, and it's very disconcerting.
I also have to sleep on my right side or back, and being elevated with other pillows seems to help as well. If laying on my left side I can feel every beat of my heart and every pvc and that just makes me more nervous. Sometimes I can fall asleep and the will be gone and then other time I'll wake up an hour later and they are still going. I usually lasts about 4 hours then I'll go a day without one and/or will just have 1-2. Everyone seems to say its could be caffeine or this or that but when they start at 4 am it's hard to pinpoint a cause unless it is a indigestion. I did satart having a lot of reflux around the same time these started in 11/2011. All tests normal. My husband doesn't understand. I just ignor then now until they go away wich is hard to do but all that I can do. I am only 34 and do not want these for the rest of my life. Going to try some magnesium and potassium supplements. Also going to try soy lecithin for my cholesterol to see if it can be lowered and maybe the blood can flow easier. Just trying to do what every I can to figure this out.....
So far I've noticed that I get the worse flare ups of SVT/PVC when I'm stressed, exhausted, have had too much sugar/caffeine, or am in pain from other health problems (fibromyalgia). I'm pretty new to this whole thing though, as I didn't begin to have PVCs until I had a breast reduction in April of 2011; before that, I never noticed fluttering, thumping, and never had a racing heart the way I do now.
I've been in the ER twice, and to a cardiologist multiple times. I'm 26, overweight, and not very active because of the many health problems I've had in my life that hold me back from normal activity and exercise. And yet this cardiologist obsessively points out that I'm 26, therefore too young to have any problems, and shouldn't worry. He also loves to say, 'well if you die, give us a call'. That was funny the first time, but it gets annoying when that's his reply to my every concern. Besides his bad bedside manner, he has not given me an ounce of information on the problems caught by holter and stress echo; he prattled off to me I had PAC/PVCs on the Holter, that my heart rate went up to 150BPM out of nowhere, then down to 40BPM later on. No explanation, no theory, no thoughts whatsoever other than, 'you're too young to have problems'. I had to google everything, literally, to even know what he was talking about. Hell, I hadn't heard him say PVC the first time, and was gathering information to show him to ask if it had been caught; the next appointment he mentioned them again, and how they're not a big deal, 'especially in someone so young', and to stop worrying about it. He ignored that I also had chest pain/pressure/tightness, shortness of breath, and waking up breathless; completely blew them off. Forums like this have given me more information than the cardiologist himself. Needless to say, I'm seeking a second opinion.
Also as a note on potassium and magnesium; all my levels are 'normal', and yet my PVCs are worse. It seems it's a trigger for some people, but not for all.
hello i just turned 30 in January, have a similar story to all of you . i got fibromyalgia when i was 17, always was a worry type personality. got diagnosed with SVT when i was 27 after ten years of going to the hospital for it and getting adenisone to restart it, and they finally decided to give me an ablation surgery in 2007, which i was overjoyed about, because i thought my troubles were fixed! well i havent had to go to the er for adenisone but i go there quite often for skipped beats or pvc's like you guys have that are downright scary!!! at least when my heart was going 170 bpm it was a sinus ryhthm!!! now its all over the place a missed beat here a missed beat there. and the dizziness and discomfort in the chest, got that too. i have been to many cardioogists, family docs, nuerologists, ers, and i have come to the conclusion that they just dont give a &*%^ and if you come in on a stretcher then they dont care.
Good luck to everyone im hoping i can stay around for my 3 year old son as long as possible and hope all of you are around for a while yet too!!!
Excessive gas seems to cause many of my pvc's along with stress. I get stomach issues whenever I'm under a lot of emotional stress. The recent death of my mother and a few other family members and friends has caused me to go into a deep dfepression which also can lend to the pvc problem. I have had palps on and off since I was 24. I am 61. My doctor said she thinks GERD has a lot to do with the problem. Oh, and I don't usually experience any other symptoms other than tachycardia and skipped beats. I don't present with dizziness, weakness, headaches, or any pain. Sometimes my blood pressure is elevated. I can tell when my bp is high. I have been trying to eat better, and my doctor said to exercise. I do feel better when I am not sedentary.
i also have gerd and sometimes get kind of like gastritis that it does seem like the pvc's are worse when this happens!! i can see a little connection now!!
i am very sorry about your mother and other family members, that is real hard stuff to deal with.
I'm beginning to wonder if Fibromyalgia goes hand in hand with PVC; my mom, who also was diagnosed with FM a few years ago, has also had problems with PVC when she never before had issues. It's interesting to know there's others with the same symptoms who also have FM.
My sympathies to you, and I hope you can get some help. I know the feeling though; I've now seen two cardiologists (the second one was nicer, and explained things to me, but still said it wasn't nothing serious and not to worry about it and blahblahblah you're fine), a neurologist, an ENT (thought it was related to esophageal spasms), my breast surgeon, my GP, and now a NEW GP. So far, nothing. All they say is not to worry,. Hard to do when your heart is thumping in your throat, you're dizzy, nauseous, and feel like you're about to pass out. I wish sometimes they could experience it even for a few hours, and then maybe they'd do more research on how to fix it.
Thank you for your reply.
You know, I wondered if that was part of it too; if I'm too full, or my IBS is flaring up, it seems to get worse than it already was. My sympathies about the loss of family, that's never easy. I'm beginning to wonder if I should go back to a GI and see if GERD could be a part of the problem. Unfortunately I do have dizziness and nauseousness lately. Could all be stress though, or stress, PVC, GERD, and my Fibromyalgia mixing together in a fun concoction.
Not sure if this posted since I attempted prior to setting up my account:
I have previously been diagnosed with SVT (for which I took Lanoxin and it worked splendedly) and now PVC. My doctor has me on 50 mg of Toprol and .25 mg of Digoxin. My symptoms are generally unnoticed now, and I am much happier. As with all medication, there can be side effects for some people. Only your doctor can suggest what is right for you. However, if your heart doctor isn't helping you, see another doctor.
I'm 44 and just diagnosed with PVCs. I had been on a heavy caffeine-binge for about three months and the doc and I assume that's the cause. The caffeine is gone but PVCs are still here. Cardiologist says aerobic exercise is key. I do find that fifteen minutes on the treadmill at a brisk pace helps tremendously every day - and a yoga-mindset (breathe in through your nose, out through your mouth) when the heart gets really flippity floppity is also a huge help.
Don't forget the caffeine in chocolate too - my PVCs tended to kick up after some minor xmas chocolate binges.
Finally - doc told me that these PVCs are not unlike what happens when you get a twitch in your eye. My biggest complaint is the "Fullness" I feel throughout the neck when they are really acting up - but again, doc says that's typical for this condition.
I did wonder this: if circulation is an issue I wonder if varicose veins play a role?? I'm trying to sleep with my legs up at night - maybe it's just a mental game but seems to help.
I will try monitoring the magnesium and potassium too. Good luck and keep ideas flowing....thanks.
You get the feeling of fullness in your throat as well? I thought I was losing my mind/alone in that. I notice when my PVCs flare up, my throat feels like someone is squeezing it. It's so obnoxious, and a bit scary at the same time.
My cardiologist hasn't done a good job informing me about any of the typical or normal symptoms of PVCs; he didn't even tell me what a PVC was to begin with. I had to google everything. Getting a second opinion now, because after everything that I've read, I'm absolutely floored that he didn't give me any information whatsoever, and just threw me out telling me I was too young at 26 to worry about my heart.
I`ve been having this for almost a year. I was in hospital for 6 days for monitoring back in july. Had multiple monitors, ECOcardiograms, mri, stress test, myoview test, and another test I cannot remember the name of. I`m 29 years old. Had my electrocardiolgist appointment on friday. He advised that I should have a procedure done to correct the problem be damage was done to my heart. Now, I`m having quite a few pvc's in a day. Above normal of what they normally see. I`m perfectly healthy, non smoker, athlete, not obese. They have no idea what as caused it. Have no issues with the PVC's at all. I do not notice them.
I will be having a procedure where they go in through my groin and into my heart. "Cardiac catheterization". The plan is to go into the area that is causing the extra pvc's and burn the nerve that is causing the trouble. He did advise me that it may not work the first time, but the procedure can be done over and over as many times as possible. Just have to wait 1 month in between.
I`m also placed on Monocor Beta Blocker until my procedure. They are suppose to do the same as what the procedure does but does have side effects. It reduced adrenaline so I will feel less energetic. I`ve just started these and it take 3 days for them to start to work. So far, no problems, but pvc's are still there.
An essay by Dr. Ray Sahelian at www.raysahelian.com/berberien.html has some technical information on benefits of berberien supplementation for PVC's. At the end of the essay in the email section there is discussion by people who have benefited from the use of berberien. Hope this helps.
Correction to my post:
Web address has transposed letters at the end of berberien. The correct address is: www.raysahelian.com/berberine.html
Sorry for the confusion.
I too have had on and off boughts with PVC's & PAC's. I was also told for years they are harmless. However, when I get strings of them together, it is very frightening! I also have a history or high Cholesterol/LDL. My Dr./Cardiologist of nearly 20 years failed me badly. He isn't a preventative Cardiologist. I suffered a minor heart attack (MI) in April 2010 at 48! I now have two stents from a plaque rupture which causes blood clots leading to am MI. I know have a different Cardiologist. After going through five, I found one I really like. I can talk to her, she listens and she is Preventative, Conventional and Alternative which is what I strongly suggest finding. I have spent an enormous amount of time researching all these topics and have spoken to some of the best Cardiologists in the country, from NY to FL and CA. For high Cholesterol, ask your Dr. about the NMR Particle & LpPLA2 blood tests. Mine were never checked and were extremely high all those years and I never knew it. My MI could have been prevented.
About the PVC's /PAC's, I've learned that they can be brought on by many reasons such as stress, anxiety, lack of sleep, some medications and deficiencies in Potassium, Magnesium and other nutrients. Omega 3 (fish oil, Magnesium supplements, CoQ10) help also. Blood work can be drawn to check for deficiencies. See attached article - I'm looking into some of these natural supplements as well. I do not want another strong medication that will only cause other side effects.
Also, thyroid problems and caffeine can cause or aggravate the condition. I was put on a low dose anxiety medication (alprazolam / Xanax) nearly 20 years ago that had helped somewhat. However, after being on it so long, I'm on it for life now. Since the MI, I am on a beta blocker which is suppose to help but can actually cause PAC's / PVC's in some people. There are many so you may have to try different ones if you are ever prescribed a beta blocker. Since it was constant strings of irregular heartbeats that sent me to the ER to find I was having an MI in the LAD artery (the widow maker) and spending 3 days in the CICU and nearly died. I now freak when I get any irregular beats as expected. It took over a year to get back to feeling decent and going to the gym, and that was luckily with no muscle damage. It could be a double edge sword however setting off anxiety. Since I'm getting PVC's / PAC's again for the last month, I've been afraid to go to the gym. I was given another halter monitor and a stress test and told they were okay, just showed these damn "harmless" PAC's / PVC's. My Dr. said if I get chest pain, she will do another cauterization! As many people indicate, something sets them off and they are very hard to live with. I'm trying altering medications and supplement deficiencies since I eat a very restricted diet.
I'm a 27 year old female and I experience PVC's- both in couplets and triplets. My Mother and Grandmother also experience them. I do not feel symtoms, and was only recently made aware of them. I suffered a cardiac arrest in August of 2011, which is completely unrelated to my PVC's. My cardiac arrest was caused by a complete depletion of potassium and magnesium (my body isn't retaining these electrolytes from food, I'm on very large doses of these supplements for life now). The reason I mention my arrest is this: Since the event, I've had multiple Echos, a cardiac event moniter, and a defibrillator "life vest" that records heart activity data. Essentially, every test I could have to determine if I'm at risk for another arrest and a candidate for an implated defibrillator, with the exception of an MRI. My initial Echo was where I learned I have PVC's. In subsequent recordings, I've learned that they occur regularly at about 4 every 10 minutes. Its likely that I had them before the arrest, but I was never screened. Even so, and with my recent cardiac arrest, after screening and monitering, my cardiologists are not concerned about them. I believe everyone should have an EKG, especially people who are physically active, and/or who have heart disease in their family history. But if your cardiologist tells you they are normal and benign, believe him. Stress and anxiety have more potential to cause adverse affects to your health than your PVC's. Be active, eat well, maybe adopt a pet, and enjoy the life that is given to you.
Did you ever get checked for Celiac Disease? When I originally posted this question I was having lots of problems with the PVC's and it was making me crazy, but the only thing they found is that my potassium was low. Since then I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease (turns out the Celiac disease was keeping me from absorbing the potassium). I have found that when I actually stick to the gluten free diet I don't have as many problems with my potassium going low and the PVC's get a lot less frequent. Of course the Gluten free diet is not fun (I miss pizza!) but you have to decide which is more important. Even if you don't want to go to the doctor to get checked out, try a gluten free diet for a while and see if it helps.
I am 25yrs old and have had PVC's my entire life. It was not until I was 20 that a doctor noticed them, but I've always felt skips/flutters/etc.. and assumed this to be normal. Back in 2008 I passed out due to a lack of oxygen in my brain, yet the PVC's were apparently not to blame. I have had every test under the sun and have come up with zero answers. On average I am having 5-8 PVC's a minute; which equates to 7,200 a day if I low-ball it. I have recently gone again to my Cardiologist who has now agreed that I am having way too many a day(In 2008, before I passed out, I was having roughly half the number I am now). His concern is that all the extra beats will, over time, weaken my heart. Pending another Holter he may prescribe something to regulate it. I'm 187lbs at 6'2" with regular exercise. I don't drink/smoke or do drugs and I avoid Caffeine when I can.
I guess my main concern is the same as my doctor's - My heart is getting weaker with every extra beat. I'm only 25...I'm terrified of the drugs that are prescribed for this sort of thing as their side effects can be far worse than the PVC's themselves.
Honestly, I don't know why I decided to write here, or what I expect. I guess it's just nice to talk to people who understand.
Take it easy,
I was having thousands of PVCs and PACs day, plus PSVT episodes constantly. (That's where your heart really speeds up and stays that way until you cough or do something to "break it up") All these extra beats damage the heart.
The only way to get rid of PVCs or PACs is to have a cardiac ablation.
I had an ablation over a year ago. The ablation itself wasn't pleasant but it wasn't that bad. However, afterwards I had a lot of problems. I couldn't breathe, my resting heart rate was 120-130. I could barely get off the couch because my heart was so strained. (Note that I didn't take meds. I can't take beta blockers.) It took a year for my heart to calm down.
To make a long story short, the ablation helped but didn't cure me. I still have problems and now am on Cardizem.
I will need another ablation in the future. This is not uncommon, to need 2 or 3. They don't tell you that.
To all who have this problem GOD BLESS i understand what you are going throug. I have had this problem for 20 + years and in and out of the hospital with no answer to my problem. My fear is not wakeing up one day because my heart for got to beat.I am willing to write a grant to do resurch if i can find a doc to help find out what cause and how can we stop PVC's Anyone who is willing to help please contact me at email@example.com please note PCV REACH SO THAT I KNOW THIS E-MAIL IS REAL. LET'S DO THIS GOD BLESS
to all who are having frequent PVC's I heart go out to you. I understand how you feel, I have had this problem for 20 + years in and out of the hospital all the test and know one can tell me what the hell is wrong. my biggest fear is one night i will go to see and dont wake up because my heart stop beating. I do not see well at night because of fear but for some reason i can sleep a little in the day time and when my husband is gone to work i don't see at all. I wish someone can do something about this problem. lets start as a group to maybe get a grant to do resurch on why we have pvc. i will be willing to write the grant if i can get enough people to speak on this problem. I am 50+ and wand to see my grandkids grow up if GOD is willing. PLEASE HELP ME TO HELP US TO FIND A CURE FOR THIS. ALL WHO ARE WILLING TO HELP PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT firstname.lastname@example.org cc PVC RESURCH PLEASE SO I WILL KNOW IT IS A REAL E-MAIL GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS WE WILL MAKE THIS HAPPEN. MY NAME IS CARLOTTA
I passed out in the mall for no reason other that a sudden onset of dizziness.
After I passed out, i started having PVC's I have done Echocardiogram, Thallium Stress test, EKG, Holter monitor, MRI and CT of my brain (when I fainted i hit my head on the concrete and got a big bruise). I am scheduled to see an elecrophysiologist in 2 weeks, but I'm trying to move it up. I get light headed and of course the irregular heart palpitations sometimes not able to fall asleep because of it. So far, they have told me they still don't know why I'm having them, but I cannot "be alone" until the figure it out. My life has come to a halt, no tennis, no bike riding, can't drive because they are fearful I will faint while driving.
This is the pits.
Louise (57 years young)
For three years I’ve wrestled with an out-of-nowhere PVC that scared the hell outta me in 2008. I have trained 3-4 days a week for 10 years, so this was a shock. Since then it’s been holistic management. And disagree or not, trust me on this- NO WESTERN MEDS WILL FIX YOU-EVER! And, possibly, will only make it worse. Now, I have a two-year degree in anatomy too, with an emphasis on nutrition, so I had some slight advantages due to experience. But I give this information to you as advice ONLY (catch my drift) as I can not make a claim to treat, cure or diagnose.
This HERB I am mentioning has worked wonders for me. It will not fully correct the PVC's, but will greatly manage it; MOTHERWORT. It’s a smooth-muscle herb/tea that was initially used for child-bearing. The herb strategically targets smooth muscle; which is what our heart is and it relaxes the muscle. The first time I used MOTHERWORT ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonurus_cardiaca ) I seen results in less than 48 hours. The use of this herb is WAY powerful and very safe (though DO NOT TAKE if pregnant) but is not easy to find. Go to your local herbal store for details. Comes in it’s natural form and must be steeped in a tea-ball (they will know what this is if you don’t). The use of MOTHERSWORT will enable you to manage your PVC’s, be it hormonal, low-levels of minerals, etc. My suggestion is below and is what I do.
*No shell fish, canned foods, spices (if it makes you sweat it’s too hot or if your chasing it with liquid), caffeine (even decaf- as it’s still acidic), artificial sweeteners (Splenda is okay- I think), cola/pop.
That’s about it people. And if you take my advice with a grain of salt (as you should)- just make sure it’s Sea Salt.
I thought I would ask a question here since so many have the same problem. I also think it is interesting that many are about the same age - or at least it seems that many are in 40's like me (I'm 41). I sometimes feel what I assume is a PVC or PAC - just one kind of thumb then all is fine. other times i have what feels like more of a fluttering sensation that lasts a couple of seconds then I have to cough and it corrects itself. I'm just wondering if any of you who have had thorough work ups can comment on these 2 different sensations.
I suffer with the kind that "thump" and also the flutters. I have been monitored and they tell me they are harmless. I will talk to my doctor again about taking supplements. They seem to work for some people, although they can produce side effects just like prescription drugs. My doctor wants me to walk or exercise more. She thinks once my anxiety levels lessen I will have less (or no) pvc's.
I started getting PVC's in Dec. 2008, at the age of 65. And after my Cardiologist did an EKG, and a Stress Echo, and after I wore a Holter Monitor 2 different times, and after I wore an Event Recorder for a month, I was told that they were only PVC's and that they were not dangerous, so he asked me if I could "live with them" or if I wanted medicine to control them, and even though I do not like taking medicine, I knew I could not "live with them," so I told him I wanted medicine. He put me on Metoprolol, and had to increase the dosage 3 times, until it completely stopped my PVC's, and I've been on that same dose for over 2 years now. I take a 25mg tablet in the A.M. and a 25mg. tablet about 11 to 12 hours later.
Cinnamon! I think the answer is cinnamon. I too have been plagued with the maddening symptoms of PVC for nearly forty years. I shared all those feelings all you people (mostly female, oddly) have expressed at this site. I've read them all, and I know that feeling "when your heart fells like it's gonna beat out through your chest while you're trying to get to sleep."
And when the doctors say (all say) "Well, you know - it's benign:" That just ticked me off no end.
A few months ago I began a regimen of cinnamon capsules, in the purpose of attempting to lower blood sugar levels.
And over those months, using 1200 ml. capsules of Cinnamonium verum at 4,800 ml. each day, the PVC has gone away. Completely.
I find this remarkable, and it has given a new daily sense of calm to my waking and soon to be sleeping moments.
The CAUSE of PVCs are a simple matter of physiology. When the Muscle Cells in the Heart muscle (myocardium) in the Ventricle (Big bottom chamber) get stressed out and 'frazzled' (you could say), THEN they fire off contracting ahead of time -- ahead of when they are supposed to -- and make all the cells around them (the whole ventricle) Contract prematurely.... hence, Premature Ventricular Contraction, PVC,
Now, with that said, there are many, many different causes of PVCs, THE MOST COMMON BEING POOR OVERALL GENERAL HEALTH WHICH MEANS THAT ALL THE VESSELS TAKING BLOOD WITH OXYGEN AND SUGAR (that are oh so good to the heart muscle) GET ALL CLOGGED UP FROM THE CHOLESTEROL AND FATS IN OUR BLOOD STRAM...........
So, the most common cause of PVCs by far is Coronary Heart Disease, which simply means that your tubes are clogged up so they cant get enough "precious blood down to all the heart muscle cells down there in the heart ----- Then one little neglected group of heart muscle cells way down at the end getting no blood DO NOT GET AS MUCH BLOOD AND OXYGEN AND SUGAR AS THEY NEED, AND WHEN THEY GET STRESSED ---- BAM --- THEY FIRE OFF EARLY and you have PVCs.
Low Potasium ALSO makes those heart muscle cells more EXCITABLE!
YOU SHOULD THINK OF POTASSIUM AS A CALMER FOR THE HEART, (and eat lots of bananas).
Potasium is like a general relaxant for the heart, making all those little Heart muscle cells in the myocardium LESS likely to fire off.
In fact, the Lethal Injection is nothing but PURE Potassium Infused into the blood stream so the Heart muscle cells in the MYocardium get so relaxed they just STOP FIRING OFF ALL TOGETHER, heart stops, death......
Low Potassium would just make any little pissed off heart cells down there at the end of the chain that arent getting their appropriate allotment of blood, oxygen, and glucose already (because of your coronary artery disease) GET EVEN MORE PISSED OFF and -- BAM, BAM, BAM -- Fire off even more frequently than they would before. And remember everytime even just one little group of pissed off heart muscle cells decides to fire off like that, it takes the REST of the Ventricle (The WHOLE heart) with them making the whole ventricle contract (this actually makes both ventricles in the heart contract... So you have these premature beats more often when you have low potassium.
The cause of the PVCs are both your High Cholesterol as this is one of the causative factors of the CAD Coronary Artery Disease, AND the Low Potassium.
- Dr. Billy
PVCs are the single most frustrating thing your body can throw at you. I had my first PVC when I was 25. I have been dealing with them for 5 years and they have been getting progressively worse. I have some days which I will go and only notice 1...others, like today, I will get about 50 at night and it terrifies me. I too have been through the battery of tests, nuclear stress test, echos and 2 holters. They were never able to actually catch one; however as I now get them more frequently I am sure I will be able to nail one to the tape.
Fish oil does seem to help however I am not sure if I am just seeing the placebo effect. The biggest help has been running. It is a little scary at first, but after about 1 month the percieved PVC got a lot better.
The one thing I can say to all is be persistent. Sporadic health problems are very hard to diagnose and doctors will not spend a lot of time searching for an answer. PVCs may seem benign but I will not take that chance!
Hello All, It is reassuring to know that other people experience PVCs and that they sure don't "feel benign" to most people. I too, began experiencing PVCs after my son was born and have had then since. I'm not 49 and have had them for approximately 7 years. Sometimes I won't feel them for months and then they seem to come on suddenly and I might have them constantly for a few days.
Sometimes I'm afraid to fall asleep at night because I am afraid I will have a "big" PVC and I will wake up terrified. So, just as I'm about to fall asleep, or sometimes in the middle of the night, I'll wake up with my heart beating fast and I take my pulse to see if I'm having PVCs. It's crazy making.
My mother who is 80 years old, has PVCs too, as does my half brother who is 58 yrs.
I've had two stress tests, echocardiograms, EKGs, and sometimes the PVCs show up, other times they don't. At this point, my cardiologist does not want me to take anymore tests unless I have additional symptoms. He reassures me they are benign (even though every time I have one they are just as scarey). Mine range from "small" (based on my sensations of the pause) to "large". Sometimes I'll just feel one in isolation, sometimes I feel several in a row - like a flutter.
I've tried changing my diet so that it is very rich in potassium and magnesium and calcium but I'm sorry to say, this doesn't seem to correlate with the PVCs. I wish it did - that way I would feel like I have more control over them. I think that is what is most disturbing is that we don't have any control - they come at random and continue and we can't do much to change that.
I have noticed a HUGE decrease in the number of PVCs I have when I eliminate caffeine. If you are distressed by your PVCs, cut out caffeine and you will likely see improvement.
It feels good to know I'm not the only one who has these!
I have had heart palipations since I was 27 years old. I am now 67. Sometimes they wouldn't happen for years. I just went for blood work and my thyroid is low (put on meds that I have taken as yet). The palipations are now frequent, most times "after" I eat. They continue for hours. How is this all associated with eating, is it associated. Is low thyroid indicative of eating that will cause palipations. My BP goes real low, and heart rate. Also, I am on low dosage for BP. .5 at night and low xanax at night. When it happens, I take a baby aspirin and Xanax. Is this good please. It is very scary. Yes, I have an appointment for a thyroid ultra sound and also a cardiac doctor. They say I need a holter monitor, but can't get it w/o HMO approval, which I am waiting on.... Am I/could I die from this? Scared.......
You asked about how eating can contribute -- there are several ways, actually. (I've had PVCs for years due to Mitral Valve Prolapse, and am currently having a really nasty bout of them ... all day long, every few minutes, sometimes more frequent.)
There is a nerve in your chest called the Vagus nerve (my ENT doc calls it the "Vagal nerve") that can be affected by things like GERD, hiatal hernia, even just eating too much. Somehow it gets triggered, and since it also runs near the heart, it can trigger the palpitations.
Unfortunately for me, the proton pump inhibitors that can help control GERD have started triggering atrial fibrillation, so I can't take those anymore.
Dairy products can also cause PVCs. My ENT (otolaryngologist, or "Ear, Nose, Throat" doc, who is very holistic) is the only doc I've ever known to acknowledge this. My cardio is clueless about both the Vagus nerve and the dairy, but my brother and I both get palps if we eat dairy foods. For me it comes and goes, and I was doing a LOT better up until last month when I had to have neck (cervical spine) surgery, and now it's back. No dairy for me. :(
Lots of medicines and some vitamin/herbal supplements can cause heart palpitations. There are many I can't take.
Currently I'm taking about 1000mg Magnesium Glycinate a day (500 or so 2x/day) -- the glycinate form is best because it isn't as hard on the digestive system. ;-) I also take CoQ10 (forgotten the dose), Acetyl L-carnitine, metoprolol (aka Lopressor or Toprol) 100mg (50mg 2x/day), lisinopril (for high BP) 5mg/day. Oh, and I take a ribose supplement (Corvalen) 5mg 2x/day, too. And I'm still having PVCs.
So, yeah, as "benign" as they may be, they still make me crazy, and after a day full of "skipped" heartbeats, I'm exhausted and crabby. Thinking I need to get my hormones checked ... (as I am a 48-yr-old menopausal woman).
Ugh. Now I'm tired ...
Oh, and I take 1 Tbl. of Flaxseed oil every day, too ...
Unbelievable how many people are having this problem...so am I, 50, eat well, don't sleep well(haven't for years) and had tests come back saying everything fine! Well, it's not...sick of this, sick of worrying...we need to organize a national campaign and do some research about this!!!!
I've had this off and on for a LONG time; had treadmill stress test, Holter monitor, EKG, etc. on multiple occasions.
I'm 57 now; I've been passing flight physicals for years, both USAF and FAA examiners. One flight surgeon even commented on it. Absent any other heart problems, he told me not to worry about it.
On my last physical, my PC doctor sent me to a cardiologist, considering my age, just to be sure. He (the cardiologist) calls it the "curse", as it presents in so many people. EKG and Holter have me a clean bill of health.
I do notice if occurs more often after a sustained periods of stress; it is scary, or at least annoying, but if your Doc's don't find anything else wrong with your heart or thyroid, or elctrolyte balance, try not too worry about it.
Seeing my DO doctor. He works on my back and spine and amazingly, he makes it stop. I do a lot of deep breathing and stretches to open the are up. Maybe try that? I'm with you, it can be very scary! Bonnie
I was diagnosed with PVC's at the Vet. Clinic. They said, don't worry, it's benign. But it doesn't feel benign, does it? I even went to Emergency once, when I had a lot of PVC over a short time. I didn't know what caused it, thought maybe a hard day's work, but later, it seemed I got most PVC's after eating, so thought that 2 Dr. Peppers and a cheesy pizza was responsible. I started taking a swig of Antacid every morning and that seemed to help a lot. Maybe one or two PVC's a day. But starting a couple days ago I've gotten more frequent PVC, like one every few minutes. Been taking a lot of Antacid but it doesn't seem to be helping. I just read on the internet that Apple Cider Vinegar will help. Just tried that and it seemed to help at first but now I'm getting a few PVC's again. I still feel that diet has a lot to do with it but I wish I could just take something to get those palpatations to stop. There! Just had one again. It's maddening! Any body have a quick treatmen that can calm these things down?
You might want to read my post 11-14-2011....many years of figuring, analyzing and attempting to correlate PVCs with something that will halt those pesky little things.