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Victim of Mesh Erosion

Magnolia48

Magnolia48

Tuesday, November 06, 2007
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I hope I've found the right place to discuss mesh erosion.  :( I had a hysterectomy and TVT sling done in 12/05 and now have mesh eroding into my vaginal wall.  I knew something was not right almost immediately after surgery, but was impossible to figure it out until the mesh itsel...
  1. TVT troubles
    Maria Gifford
    Tuesday, November 06, 2007 at 10:18 PM

    Hello and welcome to our community. You've come to the right place.

     

    Please see this related SharePost and its accompanying comment:

     

    TVT Erosion

    http://www.healthcentral.com/incontinence/c/6987/15176/tvt-erosion/

     

    Your experience with mesh erosion is not uncommon. I hope this information is helpful to you.

     

    Also, feel free to contact others on the site. We have many community members and experts to connect with and learn from.

     

    Let me know if I can find more specific information for you. Glad to assist.

     

    Best regards,

    Maria

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    re: TVT troubles
    Magnolia48
    Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 07:27 PM

    For almost two years my hubby and me have lived with this inconvenience.  NOW I'm truly frightened!!

     

    The threat of infection, bleeding, all of it scares me so badly.  I have noticed a burning pain down my leg, the same side the mesh is eroding through my vaginal wall.   I hope it's something temporary :(

     

    I also wonder how would you know if the mesh is eroding into the bladder?  I know if I sit in a certain position, I feel pain somewhere in that area, but it's hard to pinpoint it.

     

    It's hard getting scheduled with the specialist I found.  He's done this removal before, and I just don't trust anyone else to do this.  I'm waiting for his office to work out the details and they are taking way too long for me!!

     

    Of course, the surgery will be hard I'm sure.  It's better than the risks of not having it done.  Just the thought of what he's going to do scares me to death!

     

    If I'd only known when the ob/gyn said "it's the little miracle cure".....to run, fast. 

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    re: re: TVT troubles
    Maria Gifford
    Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 10:29 AM

    I understand your fear and concern. It sounds like you've decided on and are finally ready for removal. I hope you don't have to wait too long to see your surgeon.  Stay in touch as things progress.

     

    Best,

    Maria

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    re: re: re: TVT troubles
    Magnolia48
    Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 02:24 PM

    I have decided on *partial* removal. Only because the uro/gyn specialist informed me taking the entire mesh out can be very difficult and risky.

     

    I hope that he can remove the exposed mesh, suture me up, and NEVER have an issue with this mess again!!

     

    He said he's had many successes with this approach, with the exception of one, which ended in total removal.

     

    I'm anxiously waiting to hear from his office about scheduling the procedure. He said it would be about 30 mins. give or take, and under general anesthesia. Just in case he gets in there and has to do more work than anticipated.

     

    Thanks for your response.

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    re: re: re: re: TVT troubles
    Yvonne Bent
    Monday, January 19, 2009 at 01:00 AM

    Please let me know what your surgery outcome was.  I am currently interviewing surgeons to remove most or all of my mesh.  Though I do not have exposed mesh, I have severe nerve damage from the mesh becoming detached 2 weeks after implant and falling on a large nerve area.  All the area is damaged, numb and I have severe pain there.  I am on Neurotin all the time.

    I am so dissappointed in the physician that did this surgery, but I am also concerned now about selecting a new physician.  I alread spoke to one who admitted he cannot help me. EVidently it is far easier to place the mesh, but it is entirely a different thing to remove it. My physician said it could not be done.  If I don't get rid of this, I will never be able to be normal.  I have been unable to have relations with my husband now for nearly 7 months.  My vagina has altered since the mesh was placed and there is a large enough obstruction to have caused a cessation in intercourse.

    I am frustrated, upset, and tired of talking to doctors, looking on the internet, and hearing, "Oh, yes, we do this".  I don't have any idea who I can trust.

    Frustrated near San Franicisco

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  2. Untitled Comment
    Betsy West
    Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 02:41 PM

    I   had a TVT done in 12/04 and have the same complications as you.  If you recommend the surgeon who removed your tape, please share his name and location with me!  Thanks in advance.

     

    Betsy

    betsy019@centurytel.net

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    re: Untitled Comment
    Magnolia48
    Monday, January 14, 2008 at 09:40 PM

    I had the first procedure the first week of December.  During the second week afterwards, I noticed something was not right :(......the following week he had do some MORE removal, but this time we went with doing this in the office.  Obviously, I'm still in recovery phase so I can't say with any certainty that this has been a success, yet.

     

    I'll keep you informed, and if things heal well with no other problems I'll share the name of the surgeon.

     

    This has been an awful experience.  I wonder if I will ever be "normal" again. 

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  3. Another victim here!
    Shelly
    Friday, April 04, 2008 at 08:15 AM
    I too have erosion of the mesh used 5 months ago. I am scheduled for surger this Monday to have a complete removal of the mesh. I am really upset with my former Dr., as I told her repeatedly that something was wrong. She would not listen....I went to hospital out of town, where they specialize in this proceedure. I am scared to have this done, but I have no choice. I do like the specialist I am seeing now. I'm so angry, I want to sue my former Dr. I just don't know what to do at this point. 
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    re: Another victim here!
    Ginger
    Saturday, August 02, 2008 at 03:57 PM

    Well, I emailed you once, but I am not sure if you got it.  My Dr. wouldn't listen either.  He told me it was in my head (although my husband could feel it as well).  Prescribed Xanax.  Anyway, please let me know how your surgery went and how did you get them to remove it all???? I want this stuff out of me!!!  Thanks and I hope all is well.Laughing

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  4. Looking for an expert surgeon
    MeshVictim
    Saturday, April 05, 2008 at 11:22 PM
    Where do you go for the "experts" in this mesh removal? My doc removed the visible portion that had eroded into my vagina in November. Yellow discharge continues, constantly. It hurts when I sit a certain way, and when I sneeze, and after I run. I think there's more mesh in there that my doc can't see. How do we find it? He's open to a second opinion, but I don't know how to find a doc who has handled a lot of these mesh erosion removals. Any advice?
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  5. erosion
    fran
    Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 04:16 AM

    i had a sling put in in 10 05 ive had nothing but pain every since the things should be outlawed

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  6. Mesh Erosion Also in Australia
    Amelia
    Friday, June 20, 2008 at 08:16 AM

    I too had a tvt for incontinence in Sep 05...the mesh eroded and within a year I was having problems mostly a dragging pain some bleeding..The same surgeon decided to repair the mesh I waited for more than a year after finally seeing the him (because I am a public patient) to have the surgery so the mesh was catching all the germs that float in the Genital area for all that time...The surgeon did not remove the mesh in his words "He pushed it back in and stitched it up"  24 hours after surgery I was fighting for my life because I got Septicaemia.. The Strep bug Milleri entered my blood stream via the pushed in mesh... the germ had been getting released from my body as a foul smelly discharge.. But once he pushed it back in and closed it off my blood stream was attacked....I then from the same germ within a couple of weeks got an Empyema and  Abcess in my left lung and had to undergo a Thorecotomy and Decortication.. major surgery it is now four months later and i am still not over it all..My lung collapsed and I have lost some % of lung capacity the pain is still at times overwhelming there is a huge area of numbness over my chest and where the wound is on my back.. my left breast has a horrid sensation... it is called Neuropathy or nerve pain and will most likely never go....Fatigue is a constant..I am finally off Antibiotics..I still live with the fear the bug is lurking it makes abcesses and only surgery will work once that happens..My CPR a thing in our blood that should be 3 was over 250..It went back down to 5.5 but now off antibiotics it is back to 6.5 so more blood tests more Lung Xrays it seems to be a waiting game....

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  7. Question
    Dawn
    Friday, August 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    I have already had 5 surgeries this year and I have mesh eroding into my vaginal wall, but Im not sure about a lot of it, mine is from having a rectocele repaired. I did have a bladder prolapse repaired also but that sling didnt affect me, at least thats what the doctor is telling me. The doctor that done both the repairs and also a hysterectomy on me sent me to another specialist in a different state. So each time I have surgery I have about a 5 hr drive and have two small children that I have to make sure have a place to stay. This year has been hell, the specialist that Im going to now says she has no idea if it was the doctors fault who put the mesh in or if my body just didnt accept it. On top of all of that because the mesh started eroding it caused my body to try and protect itself by growing lots of scar tissue inside my vagina. So for 2 yrs now me and my husband have not been able to have a sexual relationship because my vagina is only around 3 inches deep because the mesh caused it to completely close up. I feel like I cant take much more, Im having another surgery in September and she still doesnt know if it will be the last. Im so angry over all of this, I wish there was someone I could hold responcible for it.

    I have heard several ppl say that the doctor who done my surgery and put the mesh inside of me is being sued but I have no idea how to find out or how to find out if I would even have a case.

    I have also heard that the makers of the mesh are having law suits filed against them as well but again I have no idea how to find out details.

    I do feel for anyone else who's going thru this, Im 26 yrs old and it doesnt seem fair. Good luck with everyone else.

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    Mesh erosion
    Liz
    Saturday, October 04, 2008 at 07:02 PM

    WOW!  I had TOT done in April and was unable to sit for 6 weeks, very painful even after that, continued to bleed, no sex - impossible to enter and continued pain down my leg on the side of the TOT.   After three consults, I found a specialist in my hometown and he told the mesh had eroded into my vagina (he could feel it during the exam) and it was infected.   I had surgery last Monday for removal.  I also had so much scar tissue that my vagina is very short.  Because of the infection, he only did the repair and will wait until it has healed before proceeding with more surgery to correct the mess.

     

    This doctor even builds vagina's for children and most of his work is corrective work after other surgeries.

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    re: Mesh erosion
    Anonymous
    Tuesday, June 02, 2009 at 07:54 PM

    Please help - My Gyno suggested Gynecare TVT Secure in May 08 and my whole life changed. Tape eroded through vaginal wall 2 months after sugery. I have had one surgery to remove some of it but i am still in so much pain. Has anyone found an expert doctor that can i can try to talk with.

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    re: Question
    lilmomma
    Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM

    man ifeel for u ladies out there i really do!! i had my first bladder tack up in 2005 and to be honest i wish i would have left it alone. im still having surgey cuz the mesh eroeded inside my bladder i just had surgery my 6th surgery a month ago. and i went for my 6 week check up and there is stillmesh so looks like ill go for number 7. im 49 yrs old and have to wear depends all the time cuz of the incontinence. im sick of it too. i have a law firm looking onto the mesh part. but as far as the dr goes i cant get anyone to take my case. i would love to chat with someone with the same problem. godbless

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  8. Untitled Comment
    Matt
    Friday, October 17, 2008 at 10:41 PM

    Our law firm is currently litigating against Ethicon and Johnson & Johnson in their home state of New Jersey, and are investigating additional cases.  If you believe that you have been seriously injured due to the Gynecare Prolift or a similar mesh system, and you are interested in learning more about how we can help, please visit our website at:  www.MeshComplications.com

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  9. At Last!! I'm not alone!
    Beth
    Friday, December 05, 2008 at 06:21 PM

    I had a hysterectomy and bladder reconstruction (mesh inserted in between the vaginal and uterine wall). in Sept 2008.  I've known something was wrong right away just like you all have been saying.  My gyno didn't want to talk negative about the dr who did the bladder work.  He looked at me and put me off for 8 weeks.  I'm now scheduled to have the mesh removed that is sticking out in the vagina on Friday but what if the mesh is elsewhere.  Who determines that?

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  10. transvaginal mesh erosion
    frustrated patient
    Wednesday, January 21, 2009 at 10:27 AM

    You are definitly not alone!  I have had two mesh slings.  One eroded into my vaginal wall, the other into my bladder.  I had the first (synthetic) removed and replaced by a sling made of pig collegen--this supposedly is better tolerated by the body.  Right!  It hdid the same thing in a different location.  Surgery #3 was to remove sling #2.  Then I developed a urethral/vaginal fistula which, if you are unfamiliar with the term, is basically a tunnel that forms through the existing scar tissue.  The location of this fistuala created an opening between my urethra and vaginal wall that effectively diverted any urine entering my bladder directly to my vagina.  Completely incontinent!  More surgery to correct that problem.  I took two years to get up my nerve to contact the doctor again.  This time he said my best bet was a traditional bladder suspension.  I trusted him, as he was the head of urogynocology at a major hospital nearby.  After two weeks I was back in the hospital for over a week with a severe infection under the incision.  That surgery has also failed (after less than three months), according to the doctor I've been passed off to now.  Now he wants to do a hysterectomy, vaginal vault suspension, yet another sling (he says the last three doctors' work failed due to "technique issues"--does that mean none of them knew what they were doing?).  How can I possible trust yet another doctor?  He also wants to put even more mesh in my vaginal walls to correct a rectocele (bulge in the vaginal wall from the rectum) and a cystocele (bulge in the vaginal wall from bladder prolapse).  I'm seeking a second opinion outside of my hospital network on the recommedation of a friend who used to see her.  Yes, "her".  I'm fed up with male doctors.

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  11. Mesh Erosion Victim as well
    Erika
    Saturday, February 07, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    I am 32 years old and had my first surgery on october 22nd 2008. I thought everything would be fine after the mesh sling was put in boy was I wrong. I was having pain and fevers which the doctor said was nothing. I went in for my 4 week check up and what do you know there was mesh exposed. I had my second surgery on November 21st 2008 and was hoping everything would be fine after they stitched everything back together wrong again.

     

    I moved from Texas to California and followed up with my doctor here because I was still having pain and my husband said he could feel something poking him inside me during intercourse. I was told the mesh is exposed yet again. I am undergoing surgery again Feb 23rd to remove the exposed part of the mesh. I told the doctor to just take it all out because I don't want to be having surgery every 2 months from this. She said it is too risky and that hopefully removing just the exposed part will help.

     

    I am so frustrated with this all. I am so glad I found other people going through the same thing.

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    re: Mesh Erosion Victim as well
    Teresa
    Thursday, February 12, 2009 at 08:26 AM

    Hello all, I hate it's taken me THIS long to respond to all of the above.  I was in the middle of receiving treatment for the mesh erosion when I was diagnosed with cancer.

    It's been more than a year of absolute hell on earth for me and my family as you can imagine.

     

    I ended up having one major surgery to pull out as much mesh as possible.  There was still some eroding into the vaginal wall and the doctor snipped and clipped several more times under local anesthetic.  Then scar tissue formed around a nerve and near my femoral artery.  I was advised at that point that any more removal could lead to paralysis or bleeding to death, so the only thing left to do was to inject steroid shots into the scar tissue.  This really helped with the pain, but had to stop doing the injections due to cancer treatment.

     

    I wish I could have ALL of this stuff removed, but again if it's a risky business to do so I guess I'll just live in fear of what this stuff could do later on down the road.  And live with the constant pain. 

     

    I feel like I need to take action regarding what happened to me, and I'm not sure if I am allowed to talk about that here.  I don't wish this to happen to ONE more person and I'd like to see this barbaric procedure outlawed!!

     

    I am in remission right now with the cancer, but when it comes back (mine kind typically does) I'll have to go through Stem Cell Transplant or die within a year.  That's pretty scary stuff to have on top of the mesh that took YEARS out of my personal life.  I guess you could say I have Post Traumatic Stress!!

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  12. Prolift Mesh & TVT Tape
    Chuck
    Monday, March 09, 2009 at 12:44 AM

    What is the current data for success with the use of Mesh?  It seems that the Manufactures picked a magic # and ran with it.  I have read many documents from many obgyn's who state they wont know the effects of mesh untill they follow their patiants for several years.  Is this to say you are all unpayed test subjects?  Was anyone told that they were the guinnie pig for a multi million $ company?  How can physician sleep at night knowing they have hurt #'s of woman with this junk.  I feel the manufactures & phyicians should be held responsible for the damages done to every woman and family this has impacted.  It strikes me as odd that they throw this junk in your body but when it goes bad you cant find anyone to correct it.  Most Dr. wont even repport complications to the FDA as they are required to.  I think the # of complications would be stagering if they did.  This buchering needs to stop!  My wife who was full of life pre surg. is in constant pain and I am furious.  Please write your state reps and flood there desks with your stories and help stop this mesh mess.  Stop being there test subjects.

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    re: Prolift Mesh & TVT Tape
    Peggy
    Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 07:25 PM

    I came across this article today that might help those of you who are suffering from vaginal erosion from the mesh implant.  I was fortunate enough not to be implanted with the mesh when my urinary gynecologist performed my hysterectomy/bladder lift/cyctocele & rectocele repairs in 2001. 

     


    Cook Medical Reports Positive Results from Clinical Trial Designed to Evaluate Safety and Efficacy of Biodesign Vaginal Erosion Repair Graft
    3/10/2009

    BLOOMINGTON, Ind.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--An 11-month clinical study led by Manish P. Patel, M.D., generated positive results on Cook Medical's BiodesignTM Vaginal Erosion Repair Graft for the treatment of vaginal mesh exposures, a common complication resulting from the use of synthetic mesh in pelvic floor repair, the procedure used to treat pelvic organ prolapse. The results, which confirmed the safety and efficacy of Biodesign, were presented at the 2009 Society for Urodynamics and Female Urology Winter Meeting in Las Vegas.

     

    The study examined the efficacy of the Biodesign Vaginal Erosion Repair Graft in treating 10 women with large, symptomatic extrusions that resulted from the use of polypropylene or synthetic mesh in a previous pelvic floor reconstruction procedure. To treat the complication, the exposed synthetic mesh was completely removed and the Biodesign graft was implanted to help fully restore and repair the pelvic floor. Research findings showed that all 10 large mesh exposures were successfully repaired with the Biodesign graft with no evidence of recurrence or further complication.

    According to the National Institute of Health, an estimated one-third of all U.S. women are affected by pelvic floor disorders including pelvic organ prolapse, a condition that occurs when the pelvic muscles become weakened and stretched, often as a result of childbirth. Although pelvic floor reconstruction is the most common form of treatment, synthetic mesh-based procedures have recently come under scrutiny after the FDA received more than 1,000 reports of rare but serious complications, including vaginal erosion, linked specifically to the use of synthetic mesh. Cook's Biodesign Vaginal Erosion Repair Graft will play an especially important role in treating these synthetic mesh-based complications and more.

    "The surgical repair of prolapse remains one of the most difficult challenges in pelvic floor reconstruction due to the large recurrence rate and postoperative complications including foreign body reaction and mesh extrusion," said Patel, who is a physician at Piedmont Urology Associates in North Carolina. "I'm pleased that Biodesign has proven to be an effective and lasting treatment option for patients suffering from painful, large-scale vaginal mesh exposures."

    The Biodesign Vaginal Erosion Repair Graft incorporates the best attributes of a biologic graft - resistance to infection and complete remodeling - with the added benefits of moderate price, ease of use and ample shelf life for on-site availability. Upon deployment, the graft reinforces the pelvic floor or vaginal wall and, over time, communicates with the patient's body, signalling surrounding tissue to grow across the scaffold where the pelvic floor needs to be repaired. Unlike synthetic mesh, Biodesign is resistant to infection, encapsulation and erosion into surrounding tissue.

    "The complications associated with the use of synthetic mesh in treating pelvic organ prolapse can clearly cause a significant decrease in quality of life for women," said Andy Cron, vice president of Cook Medical's Surgery strategic business unit. "The results of this study come at a very important time, as reports continue to surface around the complications resulting from synthetic mesh treatments. We are excited by the results of Dr. Patel's research and look forward to providing many women with a natural, lasting solution."

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    re: re: Prolift Mesh & TVT Tape
    Peggy
    Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 07:50 PM

    Here is a link to another article describing the biological material used in place of the synthetic mesh:  http://www.livestrong.com/health-article/warning-common-incontinence-treatment-found-risky-plus-safer-alternatives_24cb1744-e05a-4a60-6f0d-11ccc2d9cb49/.  It appears to be made of a biofilm of porcine (pig) tissue fibers that somehow "knit" with human tissue throughout the healing process - I would guess somewhat similar to how tissue grafts are done on burn victims.  Anyway, it's tissue that's compatible and incorporated in the human body, similar to pig valves used to replace defective human heart valves.

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    re: re: Prolift Mesh & TVT Tape
    Anonymous
    Monday, September 14, 2009 at 01:12 AM

    I only read your statement, but then chose not to read about all the testing being done on any kind of mesh implant...I had a Bard Avaulta Mesh Implant put in for a cystocele and rectocele in late March, 2009 and then had two sterile abcesses with emergency surgery to correct this problem and remove the ends of the tape because the obgyn doc said this is where the problem usually occurs.  I am now 7 weeks post-op from my last surgery in July and still have draining/bleeding wounds on my buttocks, only now to be told by a second opinion that I have a fistual/granulation tissue tracking...am now being referred to a colorectal specialist.  I would not recommend a mesh implant for anyone ever, as they are only life threatening to a woman's health.  In some of my recent research there does seem to be different alternatives I could have used that would not have been as invasive/damaging, but I never was informed that I had that choice.  Too late now.

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  13. Discharge, blood and pain form mesh erosion...
    Anonymous
    Monday, May 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM

    NYTimes writes editorial about my bloody, painful ongoing ObTape ordeal http://bit.ly/auCck

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