Monday, May 28, 2012

Older Children,Bed-Wetting,and Self Diapering

By Colin Thursday, January 29, 2009

 

  Another idea I have for teaching youngsters how to be self-sufficient in this area is the following. I don't know how feasible this idea is and I admit it's somewhat unusual but like the saying goes in many situations it's good to think outside the box. In many community colleges they use dummies to demonstrate certain medical techniques to nursing students. The parents could talk to the head of the nursing department at their local community college and see if they could borrow a dummy and then use the dummy to teach the child the correct way of fastening the diapers. If the head of the nursing department asks you why you want to borrow the dummy you can explain that you have a child who wears diapers for a bed-wetting problem and you want to use the dummy to teach them how to correctly fasten the diapers. If you are not able to borrow the dummy you can ask them if they have any suggestions about what to do in this situation. I suspect that purchasing something like this from a medical supply store would be expensive so the nurse at the community college might have ideas about alternative approaches to the situation. In addition you might want to call your local medical/hospital supply store and see if they have any ideas. about how to deal with this matter. As I mentioned earlier this is a very delicate situation that has the potential to do irreparable psychological harm to a child.

 

  I wonder if some parents diaper their older child because on some level they might miss the closeness of the parent/infant relationship and this is a way to recreate this. Some parents either consciously or sub- consciously want to keep their child at a certain level of development because the parents don't want to let go emotionally. It must be stressed that this is just speculation,and I'm not saying this is necessarily the case with all parents who put on their older child's diapers but the fact that this could be a factor with some people should be considered and if this the case it should be addressed with a mental health professional in order to prevent causing emotional harm to the child.

 

  I hope people understand that this post is not meant as a criticism of anyone's parenting skills. It's meant to help people realize that children are very sensitive regarding these sorts of issues. Children need their privacy and independence in these areas and by not respecting this it makes them feel undignified. I hope this helps people look at this issue in a new light. As always I feel dialogue on these matters is very important and I welcome any constructive thoughts on this matter..

 

 

 

2/ 9/09 6:08pm

As usual, Colin is right on. But I think also that a parent continuing to diaper an older kid can be a bit punitive, a way of expressing displeasure regarding the continued wetting. A not very helpful power game.

 

My Mom called it 'creative shaming'. Every night until I was almost thirteen I had to submit to the humiliating ritual of being powdered, pinned into bulky cloth diapers and then being put in plastic pants, usually by her, but sometimes by someone else. Also the timing was at her convenience, so it wasn't always just before bed.

 

If it was meant to help me stop wetting, I think it had the opposite effect, because I'm still in diapers at night, but with a bit more privacy.

Anonymous
K N K
2/17/09 7:15pm

Getting diapers on an older bedwetter should not be in anyway punitive.  Cloth diapers and plastic pants are used in our house for bedwetting and it is handled with the utmost respect to the bedwetters.  It is done in private and is meant to keep their beds dry and for them to remain comfortable in spite of the wetting.  Simply  being with the child for this time send them a comforting message and as things are being readied the child generally is understanding of why diapers are being worn and that they are not babies or being babied because they wet their beds.  When all is ready then it is simply a matter of pinning, or velcro and the plastic pants.  Once done the pj's go on and then they are free to do what they wish until bed time.

 

No child should be shamed just because they wet the bed.  They can not help it as they are asleep and in our case it's a deep sleep that causes the bedwetting and so having the diapers on makes a bad situation much better for the kids and the parents.

 

2/10/12 11:31am

Hello,

         I agree with you completely.  Margaret.

2/10/12 11:33am

Hello,

         I agree with you completely.  Margaret.

Anonymous
Stewart
3/25/09 6:15am

I have seen people use an ordinary pillow as a training aid to show how to affix diapers,the pillow is laid on the bed long ways and this represents the upper and lower abdomen withot arms/legs/head etc.The diaper is then affixed around the lower end using the corners of the pillow to represent where the legas are,and as the average pillow laid this way is not much smaller than an average abdomen it works really well and doesnt cost a penny or any embarresment trying to obtain a maniquin!

 

Hope this helps,Stew.

10/ 2/09 4:30pm

Since bedwetters are generally deep sleepers I recommend using a bed alarm. That worked for me growing up. I found this link with some posted here: http://www.vitalitymedical.com/vitalitymed ical.storefront/4ac527cd0044e9e7271dd8b190 2c06eb/Search/Display

Anonymous
Margaret James
2/10/12 11:24am

Hello everybody,

                      I have boy 13 staying with me who is from a childrens home, I took him under my wing when my eldest boy moved out a couple of years ago.       He had a traumatic experience at onetime as most have at the home, hence the reason they are there.  Some have been affected by this and have bed wetting problems which included the boy I am foster mum to, others who bedwet had other problems.      The  matron in charge said the male nurses diapered the boys who bedwet, female nurses the girls as obvioulsy they did not share the same  dormitory   , disposables were used mostly.     

 I prefer cloth type diapers/nappies/plastic pants at night if I have some available otherwise its disposables,  he cannot pin them properly or fix the tabs on the disposables properly as he never did it at the home, so as they droop/sag when wet hence I have to fix them.      Maybe with patience he will eventualy get the hang of it, otherwise I may have to get some pull-ups, but understand they are not as absorbent as proper diapers/nappies.    To sum up,  I understand the "stigma" if thats the right word to use of diapering older kids, but in some cases you have to.     Margaret.    jmargret96@yahoo.co.uk  

If anyone would like to comment, the middle A is missing in my address        

2/11/12 6:14am

Although our days of dealing with bedwetters has passed, I might be able to offer you a couple of tips to help the 11 yo with the diapers.  First using cloth and plastic pants was, we found, the most reliable method for keeping the bedding dry throughout the night.  There is a bit of a learning curve that goes with them and it has to do basically with the amount and type of padding necessary to insure the bedwetter being comfortable.   My first suggestion would be to get everything ready and have the diapers folded together and lay them on top of the bed.  Have the boy lay down on them and pull them in place without you in the room.  When he has done this have him call you and you can go into the room and pin them so they are snug and then you can leave the room and he can put the plastic pants and pj's on and be ready for bed.  The second is to fold the diapers together in thirds lengthwise.  Have him put them inside of his boys briefs and then pull the plastic pants on and pj's. 

We just treated the diapers matter of factly and we had no issues with wearing them and they also learned that wearing them kept the surrounding bed clothes drier more reliably than pullups.  Between the time the first bedwetter started wearing them and the second one got out of them was probably a little over five years and during that time if there were a total of a dozen leaks that was all.   Making sure the padding is sufficient and the plastic pants fit properly are the most important parts of using cloth diapers and plastic pants.  Making sure the bedwetter is comfortable with and in them is also important.  Good Luck.

 

2/15/12 5:45am

Hello "KNK",

                  Thank you for your tips.     I have been diapering kids (mostly boys) for some years now so think I have got the hang of it by now.  LOL   (No offence itended.)

    Some accept it with a nonchalant attitude some  are more indeterminate so obviously you have to treat each case differently.                                            Yes he can pull-up the plastic pants by himself, its just the sort with press studs at the side I have to assist with as he is too rough and has pulled the studs out of the sockets.         Margaret                       

2/18/12 7:02am

Margret,  Sounds as though the situation is perfectly under control.  You sound like a caring person.  Our bedwetters were 1 boy and 1 girl and for no reason I always used the pull on plastic pants, so when the diapers were on the kids could pull on their plastic pants and pj's, maybe gave them a feeling of some control over the situation.  Sometimes they would play quietly or read or watch TV before going to bed.  I also had some knowledge of diapering as I was the neighborhood babysitter and many mom's were using cloth diapers, also among the kids I sat for there were 3 bedwetters 2 boys and 1 girl and they all wore cloth and plastic pants in bed.  I maybe suprised that moms today still use cloth and plastic pants for bedwetting.

 

 

2/20/12 8:12am

Hello KNK.

                  Sounds like you also have the situation under control also.

Yes over here in the U.K. some moms still use/prefer cloth type diapers or nappies as some call them, mostly at night as far as I know.      I have also some pre-fold type with a pocket so you can fold up 1 of the ordinary sort and use as a soaker.        May I ask how old your kids are/were when you were diapering them?

                  Margaret          

2/22/12 6:47am

Margaret,  We diapered between the ages of 5 and 12 and as I mentioned we used cloth on the kids and so it was just an extension.  Oddly enough when I was sitting one of the families I sat for came from UK, her hubby had taken a temporary assignment.  Their son was a bedwetter and she used terries and plastic pants.  If my memory serves me right, I believe the pants came from company called Drylife or something like that.  I remember the pants as being a good fit on a 7 year old and good quality as well.  Her mom would send the terries and plastic pants from the UK.  The terries were square and she would fold one lengthwise into the outer diaper to get the absorbancy she wanted.  Both boys I sat for were nonchalant about having the diapers on, the girl was a bit antsy, but for a time I diapered them all at bedtimes.

 

3/12/12 3:08pm

Margaret,

Wondering if you sent a message?  I received a message saying you had, and yet I don't see it posted?

Anyhow, How are things going?  Hopefully everyone os comfortable and can get a good nights sleep.

 

By Colin— Last Modified: 03/14/12, First Published: 01/29/09