I was reading with interest your post.

For years I have urgency which of course is getting worse. I tried hospital consultants, physiotherapy, herbs, acupuncture, some pelvic exercises and training my bladder.

The oxibutanain makes very strange feeling in my brain like a pack of wool and less orientation.

I had urgency from the beginning but after wrong advice of physiotherapist I've got also incontinence. I was advised to hold empting the bladder for three hours and I almost managed but than the flood from my bladder started incontinence. From this time not enough that I go 4 times in the night and many times a day to the toilet but I get a spasm almost like a pain very frightening and leakage of urine. My bladder can not hold now more than 200ml and when I try to train it gets very irritated. Usually it calls me with 140-160ml. My bladder is sensitive with citrus fruits and many different things. I don't drink now coffee with caffeine and be careful with wine which I like. I love travel and generally my condition makes my life miserable.

Is any hope that by training pelvic muscles I can overcome terrible spasm and leakage, which sometime lasts 1 minute and next one after another?

I am a woman of 64 years old, sporty and not over weight. The problem gradually deteriorated since 1990. The incontinence started in 1996. I had one big baby and caesarian cut. I also when I was 30 had mysterious complication after a flu which stopped me urinated for some time. I was treated at hospital and after some time the function came back but never with the same force of passing urine rather like a gravity stream. Thanks very much

Joanna