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Jefferson Headache Clinic Dr Young First Visit.

By Katinthecorner Tuesday, January 19, 2010

If you don't want to read the whole thing, the short version is:  If you live anywhere near Philadelphia, go to the Jefferson Headache Clinic. 

 

I already posted this in the forums, but I know there are a lot of people who may read share posts, but not our forums, and I want to share my experience with everyone.

 

After two years of know-nothing neuros, I finally had my first appt at Jefferson on Tues 1/12.  The difference between a neurologist and migraine specialist is the difference between a puddle and the Pacific Ocean. 

First off, the reception staff is really nice. They were so impressed at how "together" my paperwork was. I said "One, I work for an insurance comany, so I know the drill. Two, I am a professional patient." I can't imagine how someone could be in bad enough shape to get to Jefferson and not have seen enough docs to be good at insurance and forms and such.

I saw the psychiatrist, Dr Tramuta. He was nice and thought my depression was well controlled on my Lexapro and we should leave it where it is.   Oh, and the psychiatrist is just because they know depression is co-morbid with migraines, and chronic pain conditions cause depression so they want to make sure that any emotional issues you have due to your migraines are being addressed as well.

I only saw the nurse for about 15 minutes, just do do vitals and go over my history. She was really sweet too.  Normally, time with the nurse would be longer, but Dr Young wanted to get me into his office. 

Then Dr Young. Wow. It is so nice to be with a doc who isn't just "winging it". He read through my last doc's notes, my pound o' paperwork migraine history, looked at my MRI, did the standard neuro testing. He asked me a whole bunch of questions, looked at my migraine diary and all my graphs.

 

Usually (and thanks entirely to this site) I know way more about my migraines than the neurologist sitting across from me.  Not now.  He knows what to do and how to do it.  He literally wrote the book on migraine treatment (okay, co-wrote the book)

So, new preventive is Zonegran. I'm tapering up to 300 mg over the next 6-8 weeks (I forget. The directions are long). I'm hoping I get the "reduced appetite" side effect.Fingers Crossed Oh, and if it prevents my migraines that'd be cool too Wink 

He gave me a Rx for Imitrex injections as my new abortive b/c my migraines go on for too long for his liking (mine too). He asked me if I had a problem with needles, to which I laughed out loud and pointed to my three visible facial peircings. Wink Though, now that I think about I'm really not thrilled with jabbing myself with a needle. But I'm sure I'll get over it after the first dose. I can't imagine it hurts all that much, especially compared to a migraine!  I just worry a bit because my fine motor skills tend to get shaky during my prodrome and the first part of my migraine. 

I go back in one month for a nerve block (which he said he would have done on the spot but my stupid insurance requires pre-cert). He thinks it will help with or possible get rid of my daily head pain. Thumbs Up That would be nice. I mean, my head doesn't hurt all day, but it does hurt pretty much every day. 

1/19/10 5:31pm

Hi.

 

I'm glad you like the Jefferson Headache Clinic.  It's nice to hear of someone who is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and getting rid of some of their headache pain.

 

I go there also but I was on a long wait list to get in to see Dr. Young so I am a patient of Dr. Nahas.  She is very nice, thorough and knowledgable also.  She continues to try everything she thinks will work on me, but we've not yet had any success.  I'm curious what the block is that you are referring to.  I've done botox, 3 days of outpatient infusions, LP to check for IIH, and many many different medications.   Nothing has shown any sign of lessening my chronic daily headaches.   I also get migraines but they have been  helped with preventatives, we've been trying for over a year now to find something to stop the pain pattern of 24/7 headaches every day.

 

I'd love to know what you are referring to.

 

Thanks. 

 

Patty

1/20/10 9:48am

I'm sorry to hear you haven't had any success.  I had to wait I think three months for Dr. Young.  The only other option they gave me was for a resident, but I don't want to build a relationship with a doctor only to have them leave in a year or two.  

 

It's an occipital nerve block.  I think they are doing it for me b/c I have daily headache with allydonyia (sp?) where my hair and scalp hurts too.  My daily head pain might be a lot different from yours.  But maybe you should bring it up at your next visit. 

 

My understanding is it's basically a novicaine injection in the nerves in your occipital region, but I don't know all that much about the details.  I'm pretty sure there is an article about nerve blocks here on MMC. 

 

I'll be sure to post about it after I get it done. 

1/20/10 5:46pm

Hi.  I read about the occipital nerve block.  It might be something worth my checking into.  I do know that I have a problem in C-5 of my neck and had Botox injections in my forehead, neck and shoulder area but it didn't help.  I wonder if maybe this would be something else that might be worth trying.  It looks like it doesn't have much risk and I'm open to trying anyting that might work.

 

I had a ganglion block (Deep Nasal Nerve Block) done a few years ago but it didn't make any different for my headaches.  I had sinus surgery also to fix a deviated septum, thinking this might help, but it didn't.

 

I'd love to hear whether the nerve block works for you.

 

Good luck.

 

Patty

Anonymous
Jessp91
5/21/12 12:40pm

I had the greater occipital nerve block done at my pain doctor's office a couple months ago. They like you to go on a day of great pain (8 or above), so you can tell more easily how well it works. It hurts. A lot. I've had trigger point injections many times in my neck, head, and temporal region, but it didn't compare to the nerve block. That said, it broke the migraine (which is extremely rare for me) and I was essentially headache free for two weeks. I hope you have great results.

I'm going to Jefferson headache clinic tomorrow after a five month wait. I'm nervous, because my most recent neurologist gave up hope and told me to deal with it. It's really encouraging to read this positive feedback about the headache clinic. Thank you.

Nancy Harris Bonk, Health Guide
1/19/10 8:22pm

Thanks for sharing your success story here  Smile. It is always so good to hear positive things.

 

Take good care,

Nancy 

1/21/10 11:18am

Hi there,

 

I used to go to the Jefferson Headache Center. I had a wonderful doctor who left the pratice and was replaced with Nahas. She is a nice woman, but I felt she wasn't listening to me when I told her that Botox wasn't working after 1.5 years, or that I wanted to try different medications, etc. We disagreed a lot and in the end I felt it was better that I seek other doctor's opinions because I truly felt she was not going to stop the Botox that was begining to make things worse instead of better.

 

I haven't found a better place yet, and I may have in fact made a horrible decision by leaving, but it was a chance I had to take. I would like more than anything to see Dr Young because he has rave reviews and many recommendations from doctors I have seen. If I go back to the headache center I don't think they would allow me to see anyone other than Nahas and I don't want that.

 

I wonder if the center replaced their receptionists because when I was there they were unpleasant, which is another reason I fear going back to that place. One woman dictated everything, and I mean EVERYTHING the doctors said and did. If she didn't want you to be a patient, then you wre not a patient, and she was just a receptionist!

 

It gives me hope that maybe things are changing and in another year or two I may be able to return there. My new headache center is not like Jefferson's and I miss being a 15 minute ride from the doctor. Now I am 2.5 hours away from my migraine doctor and this person is really something...

Anonymous
Anonymous
1/21/10 2:37pm

You couldn't have said it better. I, too, have suffered from migraines and more recently chronic headaches, which other doctors were unable to treat.  After going to the ER a couple of times, having botox shots and seeing more than one nuerologist, my allergist finally recommended I go to a Headache clinic.  Thus, I had my first visit to Jefferson Headache center in November, 2009.  If nothing else, it was SO helpful to know that I'm not making things up, or being a big whiner and baby - I'm actually suffering from a recognized condition!!!  Unfortunately, the first preventative they prescribed (Topomax) was too much for me to handle and be able to work.  I go back next week for my follow-up, at which time I'm hoping they can prescribe a new preventative that I can handle.  I, too, strongly urge anyone who has been dealing with this type of issue to make the appointment.  These guys are experts and can keep you from wasting time running around without relief!

1/26/10 8:47am

"Dopamax" was my first preventive too, back in Jan 2008.  I lasted all of two weeks on it.  Disaster!  I've realized I'm very sensitive to mental/emotional side effects of drugs (probably because my brain chemistry is only in balance thanks to lexapro and klonapin), so Topa was not for me. 

 

But, Topa one of 4 FDA approved medications, and one of over 100 drugs used to treat migraines.  Don't give up! Smile

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