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I have my usual dose of spring fever and want clear out the house, go do and see everything. Then there are my three plus migraines per week, with aura, fibromyalgia, and general pre, mid, and post-drome time lost. Enter new pain - lower back, sciatica, down the left leg to knee and foot. MR...
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Hi Lynne
Nancy Bonk
Tuesday, May 06, 2008 at 04:03 PMre: Hi Lynne
UpStateKate
Tuesday, May 06, 2008 at 06:45 PMHi Nancy, Thanks so much for your helpful reply. The information on MOH was particularly interesting and will help me during my upcoming appointment. I currently see a Neurologist who specializes in Migraine management, and do know most of my stress, environmental, weather, and food triggers. My frustration is that I have good medical care yet I don't seem to be gaining ground in my quality of life. We adjust my meds per my responses, or new ones become available, so I now still average three a week, but with lower severity. I'm trying to focus on what I can do, and let go of that which I can't, but this new set of physical symptoms is one more set of challenges to work through. I can see where it will be important to coordinate my meds between my providers. Thanks again, Lynne
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CJ
Thursday, May 08, 2008 at 02:56 PMAs a Physical Therapist who suffers migraines, I can tell you it is critical that you notify both of your physicians about eachother's care, so that they can coordinate YOUR care appropriately.
I provide my neurologist's name and number for everyone I see so that they send their reports directly to my neurologist's office. I might suggest the same for others, including you, so that everyone is on the same page-so to speak. It makes everyone more comfortable, and keeps all information available for the people who are trying to help me feel better.
Regarding your back and lower extremity symptoms, you might suggest your PT send duplicates of his/her notes, including the evaluation(or you can request a copy of your records) be sent to your neurologist, or you be provided a second set of your medical records. This could potentially be important information for a physician now or in the future if the damage gets any worse on your spinal cord. Your records might indicate a change in strength, or perhaps a difference in reflexes, perception of pain, location of pain, numbness & tingling, etc.
I also suffer from back and leg pain (for which I've had to have a fusion), along with our horrid migraines. I only say this because I can truly relate to what you're going through-I get it. Just be sure that your care is well coordinated by ONE person. You might consider making that ONE person your neurologist, as he/she is the one who provides the prescriptions for the majority of your meds. If you do decide this, be sure to have this conversation with both your neurologist and your orthopedist.
I've seen many people denied pain meds over the years because they had too many docs involved in their cases prescribing meds. Most good docs will agree to be in charge of the medications-if they are already prescribing, and are aware of, and in contact with, the other problems being treated in your body.
Hope this helps some. Let me know how it goes! And, hang in there. As for sleep, ask about trying to sleep with a pillow between your knees while on your side, and under your knees while on your back. Also, if you notice bowel or bladder symptoms, call your neurologist immediately and notify them.
Note: While I am licensed, I am not practicing currently due to disability for migraines. Do not replace this information for information you have already been provided by a health-care professional involved in your case. Always seek medical advice before changing your healthcare plan.
CJ
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UpStateKate
Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 08:15 AMDear CJ - Thanks so much for your caring and helpful comments. I have taken action and provided my neurologist's info to my ortho, and also, with the encouragement of my physical therapist, referred myself to an ortho who specializes in spinal care, pain management and rehabilitation. Happily I have an appointment with the new doc on 5/21 ! I am assured that he will take a less passive approach to my back and leg discomfort. His office has instructed me to hand carry my x-rays and MRI to the appointment. I feel much less discouraged, hope to have some helpful advice from this new doctor, and better outcome with coordination of care with my neurologist.
I share your frustration at being unable to pursue your chosen career path at this time. Please know that you have helped me greatly. Thanks again, Lynne
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dianacwolf
Thursday, May 08, 2008 at 03:27 PMHi Lynne- Medication Overuse Headaches turned out to be a big part of the problem for me. After reading about them here on the migraine board, I decided to wean myself off of my "morning cocktail" of Tylenol, Aleve, Ibuprofen, Sudafed and a cup of coffee. It was not easy as my worst headache pain was in the morning, and I had a child to get off to school.
I went through two really tough weeks, but at the end of those two weeks, I noticed I was no longer getting a "rebound" headache at 2 PM. So, my 2 PM headache was actually being CAUSED by my little morning "cocktail."
I then decided to give up the coffee altogether and just drink a lot of water in the mornings.
The morning headaches began to ease up. I now take headache meds three or less days a week.
I had my first really bad migraine in a month last Monday, and did not take ANY medication for it. I'm not sure why. I guess I just got out of the habit of taking meds. I just put a "rice pack" on my head. (A tube sock full of rice, with a knot tied at the end, heated up in the microwave.) I knew eventually the migraine would go away. It was gone by the next day.
Now that I have stopped taking so much medication, my migraine-preventative (I take Topamax) is finally working better.
It was not easy to start taking less abortive meds, but it was worth it.
Regards,
Diana
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UpStateKate
Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 08:22 AMHi Diana,
Thanks so much for your comments! Yes - I'm down to one cup of coffee, and what seems like gallons of water all day, ha ha. I only use abortive meds for migraine the three or four days a week that I get them. (relpax or maxalt). The relafen is taken twice a day as an anti-inflammatory for my arthritis and my back, just started in march, but I will be discussing this with my new back & pain doc next week as well as my neurologist the following week. About 5 years ago I got caught up in the "rebound" headache nightmare, and try carefully to avoid it now as best as I can.
I took Topamax for a few years, but was switched to Zonegran last summer. I also take a calcium channel blocker as a preventative. Exercise helps when my back isn't quite so fired up. Thanks again, Lynne
Thanks again! Lynne
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Relafen & migraines
susieQzQz
Friday, May 09, 2008 at 12:08 PMHi Lynne. I just looked up Relafen on the internet and the side effects are pretty grim - increased risk of heart attack and stroke and serious stomach / GI problems. Still, sometimes the risk seems worth it just to make the migraine stop.
I can empathize with you - I was getting migraines that lasted a week and then I'd have a few days off and start with another one. I also have structural problems - scoliosis & osteoarthritis - and panic & anxiety disorder. I was taking 6 - 10 Excedrin- Migraine per day for migraines and general fibro-related serious neck and back problems. That helped a lot, and I didn't have to take Imitrex so often, which also carries risk of heart problems. The Excedrin helped a lot but tore up my stomach to the point that I had to have a cat scan & MRI. I switched to Aleve, and that was better. I take Imitrex to stop a migraine and it works pretty well. If you can handle giving yourself a shot, the 6mg shots work extremely well. For the first five minutes you'll feel worse and wish you hadn't taken it. Then I would get a feeling that scrubbing bubbles were going thru my body and taking the pain away.
I've made some life changes that have reduced the migraines to maybe one a month that I can typically handle with two Aleve. Here is my summary of changes:
1. Avoid any and all migraine triggers. I mean ALLLLLL!
2. Go to a chiro (they can help!) for an atlas adjustment. Not all chiros adjust the atlas. After the first adjustment, I felt better by the time I got back to my car.
3. Switch pillows. Get a new one - this helps with allergies. I use a cervical foam pillow and cut a wedge out of the center. When I sleep on my side, I try to sleep on the thick part so my neck isn't crooked. On my back, I use the skinny middle part where I cut out the wedge. I had to train myself not to sleep on my back.
4. Lie on your back on the bed with your head hanging off the bed. At first I got dizzy. Even one minute helped. Max out at about 15 minutes. It really hurts when you do it but alleviates a lot of shoulder & neck pain.
5. Quit trying to hurry or to do it all. Being late is ok. You don't have to do everything.
6. Pray! I should have put this first!
7. Get plenty of sleep and DRINK WATER. A lot of migraines come on and get worse when you're dehydrated. I take Trazodone to sleep at night.
8. I take Cymbalta. It helps with depression, which is the cause of or the result of a lot of migraines. It helps with anxiety and pain. Really!
9. Tell your friends that their stinky perfumes give you a headache. Wear more of your own perfume to ward off the evil effects of theirs. Don't be around anyone who smokes. Ever.
9. My last recommendation really stinks. Exercise! If you do all the above, you can probably get by with a minimum amount. I know it helps but I hate doing it.
Good luck! I hope you get help and relief and don't have to take Relafen or other destructive drugs.
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Relafen & migraines - my previous post
susieQzQz
Friday, May 09, 2008 at 12:12 PMHi Lynne. On the long note I just posted, I forgot to mention posture. I'm tall and I work on the computer a lot, two strikes against good posture. Also, I forgot to sign my name. Let me know how you're doing!
Susan Pettigrew
replyre: Relafen & migraines - my previous post
UpStateKate
Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 08:31 AMHi Susan,
Thanks for your great message. I tried the "hang your head off the bed" thing. Dizzy, yes, but better, too - Thanks! In addition to Zonegran and a Calcium Channel Blocker, I also take cymbalta, which not only helps with depression, helps me greatly with my fibromyalgia. I don't take the relafen for migraine - but for arthritis and radiculopathy from my spine- which I just started in March, but am worried about its impact on the possibility of migraine rebound, etc. I am now going to see a back/pain specialist next week and my neurologist the following week, so will feel better with coordinated care, as I can't help but feel these two conditions, if not related, should at least be coordinated.
I tried Lyrica for fibromyaliga, and it didn't agree with me, I am also allergic to aleve. Since I also have asthma, I may be more likely to react, I don't know.
I do rest, meditate, pray, and have actually retired as of last November, since I could no longer keep up with teaching on line and consulting due to my health. I have been a little slow to make peace with this, but am embracing the good days and different joys in my life. Thanks again, Lynne
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Relafen is an nonsteroidal anti-infalmmatory drug (NSAID), which can cause Medication Overuse Headache.
While your lower back problems may not cause a Migraine attack, they certainly can trigger one. Spring seems to be a more difficult time for many Migraineurs, and people with chronic pain problems, I know it is for me.
Any chance you could travel to see a Migraine specialsit? Seeing an expert will be worth the extra effort it takes to get there. The New England Center for Headache is in Stamford, Ct and has world class experts there. The rest of our patient recommend list can be found HERE.
Forgive me if I am repeating myself here, have you tried keeping a Migraine diary that would help you identify and manage any Migraine triggers you may have? Our Migraine triggers page has valuable information you can find HERE.
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