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misdiagnosed for 10 years with cluster headaches

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misdiagnosed for 10 years with cluster headaches.

Originally injured in 1998 while on the job as a prison guard I have...

Jeepman

Wednesday, February 18, 2009
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This is from my bio.  Its a bit long I know.  But after 10 years I have all but given up hope.  I'm hoping posting it here will help me find someone who can give me a new idea or a path to some help or relief.  Any would be appreciated.   Rich   NOTE: Its not a chemi...
  1. Occipital Neuralgia
    PamO
    Wednesday, February 18, 2009 at 03:05 PM

    Hi Jeepman,

       I know a little bit of how you feel being misdiagnosed. I suffered from daily headaches and occipital neuralgia for a year and my neurologist never found the cause. It wasn't until he referred me to a pain specialist that I found that I had arthritis in C2,C3 and C3,C4 of upper neck which was triggering my horrific migraines, occipital neuralgia and neck pain. I know what you mean about your teeth hurting and having sore SCM. I had originally thought I was having trigeminal neuralgia as well but believe based on what my physical therapist says that the SCM muscles are so tight on both sides it causes jaw pain. I have also had temporary vision loss in my left eye and intermittent burning in left eye when the occipital nerve is riled up. I have vasomotor rhinitis when the nerve is stirred up which causes non-allergic burning of my nose. Certain smells particularly perfumes really set me off with an immediate headache. I have had success with a med called Neurontin which is for nerve pain and physical therapy exercises that I have to do on a daily basis. I also usually can be found wearing a heat pack on my neck for sore muscles and an ice pack when the occipital nerve gets unhappy. From the research I have done, people who have arthritis in cervical vertebra or injury as result of car accidents, trauma, etc. can and do have occipital neuralgia and migraines as a result. Hope this helps you at least to know someone else has been there.

    PamO

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    re: Occipital Neuralgia
    Jeepman
    Wednesday, February 18, 2009 at 04:03 PM

    Hi Pam,

     

    Thanks for the response.  My problem is getting the neuro-gods to even diagnose me with occipital neuralgia.  They keep wanting to diagnose me with cluster headaches because of the involvment of the trigeminal nerve.  So I am not getting any effective treatment.  I show them signs, my symptoms and the facts but they just wont listen.  Its a living nightmare.

     

    again, thank you for your response.

     

    Rich

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    re: re: Occipital Neuralgia
    PamO
    Wednesday, February 18, 2009 at 05:13 PM

    Hi Rich,

       It was a spine pain specialist (orthopedic surgeon who specializes in pain management) that diagnosed me based on my CT scan of my neck and my symptoms(took him all of 10 min). The neuro gods aren't all they're cracked up to be and I think they don't always look at the less common causes of headache and they sure as heck aren't very good listeners. Best of luck to you.

     

    Pam

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    re: re: Occipital Neuralgia & Topamax
    PamO
    Saturday, February 21, 2009 at 09:19 PM

    Hi Rich,

       I forgot to mention in my other comments that my neurologist took me off Neurontin for a month when I started having vision problems and started me on Topamax. I had 4 visits to the ER in Nov. 08 because the Topamax (or abscense of Neurontin) caused me to have headaches so horrific I said my goodbyes to my family. Felt like a grenade blew out the back of my head. Maybe your neurologist would consider trying you on Neurontin for your nerve pain since they do agree you are having trigeminal nerve pain. It also comes in generic which is a heck of a lot cheaper than Topamax. Hope you can get them to listen.

     

    PamO

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    re: re: re: Occipital Neuralgia & Topamax
    Jeepman
    Sunday, February 22, 2009 at 12:26 AM

    Well Pam, I'm on 50mg Topamax 2x/day now and it doesnt seem to be doing much good.  Its used to treat trigeminal pain specifically (though its intended use is an anticonvulsant) so the only thing it had done is decrease the amount of times I go blind in my right eye, but the pain is the same.

     

    An interesting side note.  My pain had increased expotentially this past week to the point it involved my right TMJ and both my upper and lower teeth on the entire right side to the point that if I woke up dead one morning I wouldnt be too upset.  Day before yesterday morning I noticed the slightest of swelling in the cheek area.  I made an appointment to get to the dentist that day.  I had an abcess in the top right back molar.  A root canal was scheduled for the next morning...yesterday.  I am seeing vast improvments in my overall condition and I have no need for the pain meds. 

     

    Now this tooth has been sensitive to cold for the past few years, but the dentists could never find any sign of decay infection or any reason for the sensitivity.  So I thought it was just a sensitive tooth, or part of my migraine symptoms.  If this abcess had been brewing for that long slowly, it could be part of the reason my migrraines were so severe, especially the last 3 or 4 years.  I dont have any false hope that my migraine will magically be gone, but cross your fingers and toes for me and hope with me that maybe they wont be so bad now.

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  2. Untitled Comment
    Nancy Harris Bonk
    Wednesday, February 18, 2009 at 09:35 PM

    Hello, and welcome to MyMigraineConnection.com!

     

    I'm sorry you are hurting so much right now. It is not uncommon for Migraineurs to be incorrectly diagnosed for many years, I certainly was.

     

    Now that you have been to all the "neurology gods," it is time to see the real expert, a Migraine specialist. Neurologists may say they are "headache specialists" and he may be a fine doctor, but it's difficult for them to be an expert in any one area because they so many different conditions like MS, epilepsy, stroke and Parkinsons.

     

    A Migraine/headache specialist concentrates on patients in one area who have Migraines and headaches. These doctors take extra courses in Migraine/headache, go to sceintific conferences where they learn the latest information on treatments and diagnosis. They are on the cutting edge of Migraine treatments.  You might want to think of it like this: if a pipe under your kitchen sink breaks, you call a plumber, the expert, to fix it. You could call a handyman to fix it and then repair the cracked window pane, paint the kitchen and install a new floor. He does lots of work, but isn't the expert you need to get your pipe fixed. Some members here travel great distances to see their Migraine specialist - from Virginia to Texas, North Carolina to Texas and West Virgina to Pennsylvania. The point is the expert are worth the travel. I went about three hours which started on my path to correct diagnosis'. You can look for a Migraine specialist on our patient recommended specialist list HEREWe have four specialists in CA.

     

    Thank you for creating a SharePost. SharePosts are a form of blogging, and there are many things you can do with them. You can share an experience, suggest something that's helped you, use SharePosts as a Migraine and headache journal, and many other things.

    We also have a discussion forum that you may want to check out. Especially if you have questions or are looking for information, you may find the interaction on the forum to be quite helpful. To get to the forum, just look for the orange box marked "Manage" and click on the Migraine Forums link. Because our forums are maintained by a third party, you'll need to register for the forum. You can use the same information you used to create your community log-in if you like. If you want to go directly to the forum, you can click HERE.

    Along with your personal "My Home" page and the discussion forum, you'll find links to a great deal of helpful information and a spot to sign up for our free newsletter on the main page of our site, http://www.MyMigraineConnection.com.

    If you have any questions, please feel free to post them to the forum or send me a message through my profile.

    Welcome again,

     

    Nancy Bonk
    MyMigraineConnection.com Expert

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    re: Untitled Comment
    Jeepman
    Thursday, February 19, 2009 at 02:54 AM

    Hi Nancy,

     

    Thank you for your reply.  trust me, I was being extremely sarcastic when I called them "neuro-gods".  They are nothing more than self absorbed over paid quacks who couldnt find their backside with both hands, a flashlight and a road map.

     

    I would absolutely LOVE to go to a specialist.  But again the problem is I cant get referred out of the system.  I am disabled and the state agency I worked for gave me Kaiser-Permamente as my insurance.  They not only are my insurance carrier, they are also my provider.  Imagine having auto insurance that also did auto repair and the only place you were allowed to take your vehicle for repair was to your insurances own auto shops.  Not a pretty picture hmm?  Being that I am on a fixed income I cant afford to just run off and write a check to go see some high paid migraien specialise myself that the insurance would refuse to pay for.

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    Suggested prescription - works for me
    Anonymous
    Monday, February 23, 2009 at 07:33 AM

    Jeepman,

     

    I was diagnosed with cluster headaches 5-6 years ago, but they started in a milder form in the early '80's.  The repeating headache symptoms were much the same as yours and had progressed to the stage of nausea during some episodes, beginning in March and ending in November.  It was especially worse while trying to sleep at night.  It got to the point where I feared going to bed for what I knew I could expect. 2-3 times a night.  Finally, I was referred to a Dr. Rao here in NJ.  After a detailed consultation and review of my past treatment / failures she prescribed Verapamil.  I've had to increase the dosage once during this time, but it has been a life-changing event for both me and my family.  Verapamil is actually associated as a treatment for high blood pressure, but mine has always been low, ex: 105/75.

     

    Hope this helps,

     

    Dan

     

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    re: Suggested prescription - works for me
    Jeepman
    Monday, February 23, 2009 at 08:16 PM

    Hey Dan,

     

    Thanks for your reply.  yeah the super quacks tried Verapamil on me too, but since my diagnosis of cluster headaches is wrong it didnt work.

     

    I'm glad it did for you and you found relief.  Its nothing nice dreading going to bed.

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    re: re: Suggested prescription - works for me
    Jeepman
    Monday, February 23, 2009 at 08:17 PM

    I think it was for my headaches.  ITs been a while.  I had BP issues too for a bit.  Maybe it was for that, I dont recall now.  Either way it didnt affect my headaches hahaha.

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