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Any other long-term sufferers out there?

By Susan Friday, December 14, 2007

me in front of Black Pearl restaurant      Hi, I am brand new to this site, having just discovered it existed recently.  I have never corresponded online before, but I welcome any advice/support/suggestions. 

     I have suffered with migraines for 35 years (could it be that long?).  They started in my early teens and haven't quit.  I've been treated by the same neurologist throughout.  The pattern has changed on and off, depending mostly on how much stress was in my life (big trigger for me).  In 2004 I was in a car accident and injured my neck, resulting in an instant painful headache.  I assumed it was the stress of the accident and extreme stress going on at home.  I never did go to the hospital, my husband told me I would "get over" the escalating pain.  A year later, while visiting my neurologist, he said my symptoms were completely new for me, something was different, and ordered an MRI, which showed the neck damage. 

     Since then, I've had numerous tests,tried various remedies, the damage remains, and surgery is not an option.  At this point I have a never-ending headache, with several migraine symptoms almost every day.  Occasionally, I have a migraine free day, but the headache remains.  Usually, the migraine lasts three days continuously if Imitrex doesn't work.  I only take Tramadol for the first day of an attack, then discontinue all meds so I don't worry about rebound.  I just wait it out.  Once, I had a 21 day migraine.  I have now tried my 6th cervical epidural.  Not much help. I can't lie down with migraine, it intensifies the pain.

     Any suggestions for coping? 

 

Thanks for your time and attention, I greatly appreciate your help.

 

 

 

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12/15/07 3:04am

Glad to make your acquaintance.  I'm sure some of our members who have had bad migraines for a long time will be by to greet you, as well as people whose migraines got worse following an accident.  My heart goes out to you.

 

As for coping, I'd suggest you visit our discussion forum.  That in itself will probably help you cope; the support is wonderful.  In particular, I think you would enjoy a thread under the "Questions and Answers" thread called "What is in your toolbox?"  In that thread, a lot of people have shared their "first aid" ideas for coping with migraines.

 

To get to the forums, click on Migraine Forums under the orange Manage bar.  Registration for the forums is separate from the registration for this page, but you can use the same info to register for the forums.  We'd love to have you.  I think you will be surprised how much reliable information you will find on this site, and how responsibly people behave on the forums.  If you are new to communicating online, this is a great place to start.

 

Good luck with your migraine management.

12/15/07 7:39am

     Hi nutcracker1, thanks for responding.  Your suggestion to join the forum was a great idea, and thanks for the instructions.  This weekend I will give it a try.

      Being perimenopausal is tough enough without added headache complications.  I am also experiencing this and never thought to consider how it impacted my escalating migraines--I guess the neck injury is so prominant that all else falls into second place. 

     Please let me know if you've discovered any correllation and what it might involve.

 

12/15/07 7:40am

     Hi nutcracker1, thanks for responding.  Your suggestion to join the forum was a great idea, and thanks for the instructions.  This weekend I will give it a try.

      Being perimenopausal is tough enough without added headache complications.  I am also experiencing this and never thought to consider how it impacted my escalating migraines--I guess the neck injury is so prominant that all else falls into second place. 

     Please let me know if you've discovered any correllation and what it might involve.

     Hope to hear from you again,

     Susan.

 

 
12/15/07 9:05am

Talking about being perimenopausal is hitting the nail on the head (pun intended) for me, as well as some others who use this site.  I had migraines in conjunction with my periods throughout my young adulthood. Since they occurred only at that time, regular as clockwork, and controlled down to zero with ibuprofen, I never sought a diagnosis.

 

When I became perimenopausal, the migraines swung wildy out of control, and the ibuprofen quit controling them.  Currently I see a neurologist, and I take Inderal, magnesium, and Vitamin B2 as preventives.  While I've made a lot of progress, I'm hoping to reduce my frequency still more with my neurologist's help.

 

Quality of life CAN be improved for nearly all migraineurs.  It takes a lot of time, patience, and trial and error.  It's important to work cooperatively and assertively with your doctor.

 

I'll be looking forward to seeing you on the forum.

12/21/07 10:50pm

Have you looked into what a hysterectomy might do for you?  I can't really recommend it, since I have no experience with it myself, but I've heard of women's headaches virtually disappearing after a hysterectomy.  I feel badly for you having them every single day.  Mine have decreased since menopause, although barometric pressure changes and too much chocolate will certainly bring one on.  I hope you are successful in finding something that helps you.

 

Can anyone out there reading this comment on hysterectomy? 

12/23/07 4:31pm

Yes, I can comment a little on  the idea of hysterectomy.  I do have one friend who had hormonally-triggered migraines (far worse than mine) throughout her young adulthood, and they swung wildly out of control when she became perimenopausal.  She tried a number of different preventives; they either did not work for her, or she couldn't tolerate them.

 

Finally she decided to have a hysterectomy.  Fortunately, it helped her, and the migraines decreased to once every couple of months.

 

However, this is not everyone's experience.

Some people find that hysterectomy actually makes their migraine situation worse.  And once you've taken that step, it's not reversable.  So each person must make their own decision--it does help some people--but I'm not going there.  I have already made a great deal of progress with preventives.

12/23/07 4:43pm

Thanks for your insight, nutcracker1.

 

It's funny how migraines/headaches seem almost tailored to each individual, so that not all of us have the same triggers, nor the same experiences with medications.  I suppose there are some symptoms common to all of us---- such as PAIN (duh), but everything else seems to be of an individual matter.

 

Anyway, hysterectomy obviously isn't the answer for everyone, but I'm glad you could comment on it.

 

Trial and error seems to be the name of the game.  I know it has been for me for the past 30+ years.  What's really bad is if you're a slow learner! 

12/23/07 4:49pm

Also, I have found that the medication I try depends on what I believe to have been the trigger for headache.

 

Like, if I think the trigger is weather, the first thing I try is a decongestant + pain reliever, like Fioricet.

If the trigger is an allergy and the bridge of my nose "hurts", I reach for 2 Midrin + a Vivarin... or if it's at night, a dose of Nyquil.

If the trigger is [was] my period, I tried either Midrin or a Frova. 

 

12/24/07 2:08pm
Actually, pain isn't necessarily a symptom we all have.  Some people have aura-only migraine attacks.  Those can be quite debilitating, depending on the nature and length of the auras.
12/26/07 12:35pm

3 years ago when my headaches were still manageable, I also treated for specific triggers, and it worked pretty well unless I then delayed taking my imitrex long enough for it to work well (or at all).

Now that I'm having daily headaches triggered by my neck, that isn't an option.  Though if I get a horrible tension headache on top of the ususal one, I do opt for the tramadol.  What I have a concern about is the frequency of taking the medication: I was told to take the above meds no more than 2-3 days a week to avoid rebound, which I do (religiously).  But the result is that I am in pain (sometimes severe) for 4-5 days each week.

 

Anyone have any suggestions?

(I updated my list of medications on my profile, having just started lamictal as a preventative)

12/27/07 1:13am

It's good you are aware of medication overuse headaches and are trying to avoid them.  People who have been in MOH say it's no place to be!

 

In many cases, you can use two different classes of drugs, each two or three days a week.  For example, a triptan two days, and a painkiller two days.  Check with your doctor.  Using two pain killers, each containing acetaminiphen, could still result in MOH.  So check with your pharmacist as well for "medication overlap," if necessary.

 

In all cases, of course, follow your own doctor's orders.

 

In comments below, I notice you are making some changes in supplements you are taking.  I can certainly understand wanting to go that route rather than "medications;" I felt the same way.  But be sure to let your doctor know about the supplements you are taking.  In some cases, they can interact with your prescription meds and cause problems.  In all cases, your doctor needs to know exactly what you are taking.

 

It's great to see you over in the forum, too.  Keep up with us over there.

12/27/07 12:04pm

Thanks so much for the heads up on frequency of taking medications.  I've always been super-conservative, but perhaps I've been too conservative to take my medications frequently enough to be of any help at all. 

I do bring a list of all medications, including supplements, to each doctor's appointment.  Beth Israel Hospital in Boston recently implemented a procedure in which each patient gets a computer printout of medications and supplements they are known to take, and to update it with a nurse before seeing a doctor. 

Of course, I will run the frequency issue by my doc and get his recommendation.  I don't have a scheduled appointment until summer, but I am in contact with him between appointments.

I am amazed at the variety of topics covered in the forum, and haven't had a free moment to peruse all those that might apply to me.  I am excited that a new medication I'm trying was mentioned, and I look forward to hearing from others who have experience with this.

Again, thanks for your guidance, you've been such a great source of support,

Susan

12/15/07 6:02pm

Hello, and welcome to MyMigraineConnection.com!

 

The first thing that comes to mind is seeing a Migraine specialist is imperative. Especially when you have the added complication of cervical spine issues. We have a patient recommended list you can click HERE

 

Cervical spine issues can play a role in triggering a Migraine attack. Physical therapy may help relieve your pain, and sometimes disc issues can resolve themselves. Again, this is where a Migraine specialist, who is an expert in Migraine disease and headache disorders comes in.

 

Having Migraine pain lasting for more than 72 hours without a four-hour pain-free break while awake could be a condition called Status Migrainous and needs medical attention immediately. This can put us at increased risk for stroke. Status Migrainous - The Basics.

 

Thank you for creating a SharePost. SharePosts are a form of blogging, and there are many things you can do with them. You can share an experience, suggest something that's helped you, use SharePosts as a Migraine and headache journal, and many other things.

We also have a discussion forum that you may want to check out. Especially if you have questions or are looking for information, you may find the interaction on the forum to be quite helpful. We hope to see you there. To get to the forum, just look for the orange box marked "Manage" and click on the Migraine Forums link. Because our forums are maintained by a third party, you'll need to register for the forum. You can use the same information you used to create your community log-in if you like. If you want to go directly to the forum, you can click HERE.

Along with your personal "My Home" page and the discussion forum, you'll find links to a great deal of helpful information on the main page of our site, http://www.MyMigraineConnection.com.

If you have any questions, please feel free to post them to the forum or send me a message through my profile.

Welcome again,

Nancy Bonk
MyMigraineConnection.com Expert

PS: If you receive this message from more than one of us, please excuse the overlap. Thanks!

12/26/07 1:39pm

Thank you so much for the links--great for a novice like me! 

I did see a migraine specialist in the late 80's (at a headache center) at the Faulkner Hospital, and didn't have a very good experience.  The center was like a factory, just get plugged in and go through (in my case) a repeat of tests that my neurologist had already done recently.  Then I met with a doctor who was cold, didn't want to hear about my individual symptoms, or what I had already tried to do about them with my neurologist.  He was rather abrasive with his "I'm the expert and we'll do what I say', which was to start with minimal, unsatisfactory suggestions for a course of treatment.  And here was I, believing that being at a headache center would eventually result in an effective migraine preventive and pain management program. This was not a headache clinic I would recommend to anyone with a long-term history of migraine, never mind someone seeking help with their headaches for the first time. 

I am still with my original neurologist from the 70s, and we are currently exploring re-trying some old preventives, as well as newer versions if they don't work out.  I feel he's a good choice for me because he knows my history, and is the head of neurology at a major teaching hospital in Boston (plus he's much more compassionate than the workers at the headache clinic).  Since my headaches are now daily due to my neck, it presents more of a challenge.  I'm hoping a preventive will at least lessen the frequency so I can have some (any) pain free days.  Or at least less painful days.

I appreciate your help and any other suggestions you can send my way,

Susan

 

12/21/07 11:31am

Hi, Susan!

 

I think you are taking a great step by reaching out for more information and other people's experience. You will find a lot of good information and support here! Like you, I have had migraine disease and quite serious attacks (usually two or three day storms) for at least 38 years.

 

Mine have definitely been hormone-related, but I have a few other triggers as well. Attacks started for me a year or so after I started my period, I was relatively pain-free during both my pregnancies and breast feeding months, and I'm now two years into menopause.

 

My one regret is that I never went to a headache/migraine specialist or one of the headache centers to help me identify and manage my triggers and remedies. I go to a neurologist I like, but for the most part they simply help me maintain.

 

What I wanted to share, mostly, is that during the last two years before menopause my migraine attacks worsened to daily and more extreme pain with a few excruciating episodes. Those fluctuating hormones are a pain in more ways than one. I fumbled through, and the good news is that now, two years into menopause, my attacks have become fewer and less intense. I still have many attacks, but the pain and nausea, etc., aren't as bad, and I can manage fairly well with Imitrex and ibuprofen or Fiorinol. I try to take the very minimum of anything (especially Fiorinol) to avoid rebound attacks, and I'm still experimenting with supplements and other lifestyle changes.

 

But looking at the big picture, things are much improved for me now at age 53. I just wish I had known a lot of what I know now during my 20s and 30s and 40s!

 

I'm happy to share anything else about my experiences, and there are millions of us, so you're certainly not alone!

Best wishes,

Betsy

 

 

12/26/07 1:12pm

Thanks so much for the wisdom of your experience. I've also tried changing my supplements, and now take magnesium and B12 daily, in addition to my usual meds.  I have now started taking lamictal 25mg twice a day, increasing to 50mg in two weeks.  Hopefully, that will help as a preventative.

Did you discover anything help deal with the symptoms of perimenopause?  I'm not too keen on trying hormones after all I've read about them.

Again, thanks for the input,

Susan

12/26/07 2:30pm

Hi, Susan!

 

I have no experience with lamictal, and I've recently cut out all supplements in order to start over with one at a time. I was taking  quite a few and having almost daily migraines so I decided to see if one or more of them might have actually been making things worse. I'm told B2 is good also.

 

We have so many factors, hormones and chemical balances in our bodies, it sometimes seem impossible...  As far as perimenopause and menopause go, I always maintained a good attitude that I was going to breeze through the changes, and I have been very fortunate. I've had mild hot flashes (I call them warm surges), a few restless nights, moodiness, and more tears than usual, but nothing like what some women experience. Except for the worse migraines for a couple of perimenopausal years, I am not complaining! I'm sorry that I can't tell you I found anything that helped me through those really bad couple of years, but maybe you will find a preventive to be helpful. I can tell you that now from the other side, things are looking a bit brighter!

 

In general I've tried to improve my diet (more fruits and veggies -- less red meat and SUGAR and processed foods) and exercise level (although I still could do much better at increasing physical activities :), avoid known triggers of course, and try to relax more, breathe better, and I love Yoga!

 

I did not want to take hormones during perimenopause or menopause, especially estrogen, because I have family history of breast and colon cancer. Also, I always had worse migraines while taking birth control pills, when I tried the progesterone cream, and when I did try a low-dose estrogen for migraines once in the last few years. I have stuck to my instincts about that, and so far, so good for me... 

 

I didn't get much help from the preventives I tried over the years, but I know many people do! And I really have tried only one or two from each class of meds.) We are all so different that it seems the key is to just take the time and patience necessary to figure out what works (or helps) for you.

 

Sounds like you have a good attitude and the patience to keep trying! 

 

Feel free to let me know if you have other specific questions or if I didn't answer your original question!  ~Betsy 

 

 

 

 

12/21/07 3:21pm

Hi Susan-

  Like you I've suffered with migraines since the age of 25. The difference for me has been and continues to be the preventative medication I take daily (topamax) which blocks headaches from becoming migraines. I don't know in your case if that would work but you might want to ask about it. My migraine patterns seem to change more wilth the seasonal changes and the barometric pressure. I carry Imitrex in my purse at all times in case I get a migraine while away from home. Lately mine have started out as migraines instead of  minor headaches going into a migraine. Since stress is a big factor of migraines I use relaxation cd's to relieve stress-they really work!! You can find them at Target for about $8-$10.

  I hope these tips help you and with the holidays you might be having more migraines then usual. 

  HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!

     momto2 

12/26/07 1:19pm

I've been re-trying some of the migraine preventives I tried in the 70's.  I've recently tried verapamil, then topamax.  Now I'm just starting lamictal.  Hopefully, something will make a difference eventually.  I also tried relaxation CDs, and did a Mind/Body course with Herb Benson in the 80s that I recently took again at Mass. General Hospital.  My favorite CDs are by Belleruth Naperstack.  If you never heard her CDs, take a listen on her Health Journeys website.  She does a specific CD for Migraine Disease--the best!

 

I'm so glad to be hearing from other long-term sufferers, I didn't know anyone else out there.  Thanks so much for your feedback,

Susan

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4/ 9/09 11:02pm

WOW!  CryI went to my doctor today for a cough and bronchitus and he asked if I had anymore questions.; I said Yes, he knew I had a Migraine so I asked him if there was a way to  find out if my hormones were way out of wack; He said that I could have a blood test and that would let us know the estrogen levels and other stuff.

I explained to him that the migraines have been getting worse with every menstrual cycle to the point-that I am not even able to see.  He said that it sounded like I could be Perimenapausal.  I wasn't sure what that was so I came home and got on the computer to do research.

Oh my GOSH! I can not Believe that their are other women out in this world that are going through what I have been going through for since I was 13 or 14 yrs. old.

And the Dollars$$$ that have been spent on antidepressants and going to different doctors. It is Unbelieveable.

I have had Migraines 24/7 with them never letting up in 1983-1984.

I know the Barimetric Metric Pressure plays total havoc-I;m from Out West and moved to Indiana 2000 and met my husband here so I am stuck-unless the Lord is able to persuade him to move back out to Fresh Clean Air and Mountains.Wink 

Perimenapausal hit the nail on the head with almost every symptom that I have been experiencing the last few months.

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