Saturday, February 11, 2012

discrimination in the workplace

grrrrr. i have been up for a promotion now i had thought for about 2 months. i thought my boss had sent in the documentation and everything. in a meeting with him today, i checked in asking how long did he think it would take. learned that he had not even put in for the promotion for me yet. when i asked why, he said because of my migraines. hello????? Mad

when i asked him to explain, he said he was concerned that because of my migraines i wouldn't be able to do the job and went on to say, "think of it like this. let's say we promoted someone and then after they got promoted, they got cancer and they had to take a bunch of time off. now, they should never have gotten that promotion, then, should they?" i said absolutely they should. i also told him that this smacks of discimination and that my migraines should have NOTHING to do with whether i'm promotion-worthy or not. (point to clarify -- at my company, you do the job at promotion level, then have to prove that you're already doing the job, then you get the promotion. i've been doing the job for 2 years).

i am very angry. i don't know what to do. he disagreed with me that he's disciminating (of course he would) and insists that he thinks i'm worthy of the promotion but he wanted to make sure that i would get thru the trigger point injections ok. well, i'm thru those. now what.

 

i followed up with an email to him indicating that i still did not understand how my health had anything to do with whether or not i was promotion-worthy but if he or his superiors had any questions about my health, they could contact me. i also "respectfully requested that i be considered for this promotion."

 

so the question now is, do i wait and see what happens? do i fight for this? or is it going to seem like sour grapes? i just don't know. i guess i'll wait and see for now. makes me feel like i don't want to give the extra effort at the office, anymore, though, you know?

11/23/07 12:29pm
i know this sounds defeatest,but i would not make abig deal about it,i know it sux not getting the promotion,but iwent thru similar things ,aright monkey got my job,ihad been there 8 years,abd they loved my work,then the migraines got worse,in the end ihad tosue for disabilty,iwon the very first case we fought,but you gotta look from your bosses side,he still employs you,and he knows about the migraines,someone without migraine would put in more hours ,and miss less time,coz id give anything to have ajob to goto,instead of spending the whole day in front of the computer,im only48,iaint dead and buried yet,so my adviceis dont,miss what you havent got,just keep what you have got,yours momoharen
11/23/07 2:55pm
I think if you're qualified for the job and can phsyically do the job you should pursue fighting for this promotion, if you want the job. Believe in yourself. Life is too short to waste time not going for what you want in life. My best! Momto2
Anonymous
Anonymous
11/23/07 4:17pm

I'm recent retiree from mgmt job & have unique perspective of both mgmt & employee views. My job was to support my superiors but to protect employees & myself. These suggestions apply to people who don't have medical disabilities as well. I've successfully fought against discrimination & harassment for gender & medical issues many times for myself & on others' behalf during my 30 yr career.  Documentation is absolutely essential to keep in your arsenal.  Companies have responsibility to make "reasonable accommodations" to employees who have medical conditions identified in the Americans w/Disabilities Act, but the company decides what is 'reasonable'.  (I was able to telecommute at times or work different hours, but my 1st line suprv was exceptional.)

 

You've already done one step but may need to follow up w/your boss or higher levels.   Some of these points would be modified if you see this person on a daily basis or work closely with them. 

 

1.  Know how far you're willing to go to get what you want. You could win this promotion, but be in a dead end job thereafter so always go thru proper chain of commands if you get stonewalled.  Know your company's HR policies but remember HR is representing the company, not you.  So you need to understand the organizational dynamics & the people & come up with win/win solution. Does your boss have a poor reputation for mgmt decisions? Has he done this to anybody else?  Is he known for making stupid comments or hypotheticals like his 'cancer' scenario?  Usually if a person discriminates in one category, they'll do it to others.  (One mgr wasn't supportive of employees until he hurt is back  too, then he told all of us how bad it was!!)  Know what time limitations are for filing Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) complaints.  Written documentation would be critical. 

 

2.   Keep calm and professional at all times.  Make sure that you're not complaining alot to your co-workers about how unfair he is. Word will get back & it will be interpreted as you having a bad attitude.   Documenting your conversation in email  w/o angry emotion is very difficult. Anger can't be disguised or taken back.  Better to walk away & think about what was said, then follow-up w/email, "I've had opportunity to think about our conversation of ____.  It is my understanding that you are withholding submission of my promotion for reasons other than my job performance.  Although you acknowledged that I am currently performing at the promotion level,  you expressed some concern of my ability continue  to sustain my performance level.  I believe that I have repeatedly demonstrated my competence & capability to successfully perform my job responsibilities.... "  Mention special accomplishments & job performance appraisals that support your promotion request.  Look for evidence of additional responsibilities that you've been performing that are at the target level.  If you've already fired off a hot email, look for a way to turn down the heat.  Apologize if you must for losing your cool, but that you were just so surprised & disappointed to learn that the promotion request had not been submitted.  I would even say that I'd assumed he'd let me know immediately if he had any concerns about my performance or attendance. 

 

3.  If you've been absent alot recently (you mentioned TP inj), you could reiterate that you have completed your medical therapy. Also, it isn't unreasonable for mgmt to delay a promotion until attendance stablizes again.  I had my physician write a letter "To Whom it May Concern" ltr validating my medical conditions & what reasonable accommodations were required, i.e. chair, snacks during the day, whatever (I've got a multiple problems, migraines are just one of them)). This can be a double-edge sword though.   

 

3.  Your boss is not your friend. His objective is to get the job done & more money for himself.  He doesn't care whether any of us are having a bad day.  (Some even delight in triggering a headache if they can. I once had very arrogant & abusive male senior mgr say to me that everything he'd ever done to add pressure upon me, he'd done on purpose! Then his boss took an EEO class & asked the question of what he could do about employee (me)  who always had a headache?!!!) 

 

4.  Try to avoid repeating his prejudicial comments in writing unless you have to because it risks reinforcing ideas or polluting the minds of other readers.  Emails are not confidential & they will be shared!  Write the email like it's a memo for the record & can be forwarded to your next chain-of-command & possibly HR Dept head.  It's tricky about who & when to bring someone else into the discussion because you'll have to overcome or deal w/their prejudices too.  

 

5.  Stick to the facts of the company's promotion rates.  Numbers don't lie. See if others are promoted when eligible except for people who are part of a protected group (health status, disability, race, etc.)  Is your health status generally well known or it is confidential btw you & your boss?

 

6. Close email w/something like, "Please let me know if you have any additional concerns regarding my performance, attendance or issues.  I look forward to speaking with you further on this matter." 

7.  Depending upon your organization or if this gesture doesn't resolve the obstacles, then you might want to request a meeting w/him & someone from HR dept.  I have also dealt directly w/HR myself & cc: my chain-of-command. It just depends on the organization. 

 

8.  If it becomes apparent at some point that you're not going to be promoted strictly upon your health status even though you are doing the job. They don't have to keep someone who isn't able to do the work because of a permanent medical condition if it interferes w/their performance or attendance. (That's disability retirement or workman's comp.) That is different, though, from a temporary flare up or if undergoing medical treatment that will allow you to better manage your condition.

 

Hope this helps.  Good luck.

11/23/07 9:01pm

your thoughts really hit home. i don't want to get even. i just was so floored by my boss's comments. he has never been this way before. a friend said it really seemed like he had been picking on me lately. i don't know. i guess when you say your boss is not your friend, i think you're right. and i have always treated him that way. but he's not entitled to know everything about my health status, is he? i mean, if he asks how I"m doing, i can just say, i'm doing fine, thank you for asking. i don't have to say i've had 3 migraines in the past 5 days and i feel like i've been run over by a mack truck.

 

your comments really helped and i'm sure i'll be referring back to them. i appreciate it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/26/07 8:30pm

I typed most of this reply 2 nights ago but I lost it before it posted, so here goes again.

 

My point about your boss isn't your friend is still true in that they have to get the work done. That doesn't mean that you can't be friends with them or that they don't empathize w/your situation. They are not entitled to know everything about your health, but they are entitled to know if something that might put their projects, their reputation, their success on the line. Most bosses are rated by the performance of their subordinates. That might not sound fair, but that's the way it is. If he's been ‘picking' on you, he may be just acting out passive anger, especially if you've dropped the ball on him by saying you'd do something/project & then not be able to complete because of a migraine. Believe me, I know exactly where both of you are coming from on this. (I let my boss down way too many times also.) Maybe your chat last week will be soothing to both although there are just some communication differences between Mars & Venus so consider only giving short answers instead of a story. I'd come up w/some standard answers, i.e. I'm feeling better, thank you. My dr & I have found a treatment that's working for me, etc.

 

I also want you to consider that his motive of holding off on the promotion recommendation may have been because he first needed assurance that you would be able to fulfill your end of the bargain. He may not want to put additional stress upon you that the demands that the promotion will no doubt levy. A higher position or title means more responsibility & accountability & STRESS. It is one thing to be performing the work above your position. That's how people get ahead. But, when you're working above your position, you may not have the same level of "personal accountability" that you'll get after the promotion. You may be more responsible for others as well.

 

My boss was the mgr & is still my best friend. We worked side-by-side for 20 years. I was her deputy & I never wanted her job. (I preferred to be the advisor to the person in charge.) I knew my limitations & personal goals. I didn't mind her calling me at home, but I sure didn't want her boss calling me! But, over time my illnesses DID adversely affect my work performance. She knew it and I knew it. She cut me a lot of slack over the years that no one else would have done. Ultimately when I realized that I could no longer do the work or at the same pace, I told her and said I would be seeking an earlier retirement (which I recently obtained).

 

Sometimes people's motives are misinterpreted. That sounds like that is possible w/your boss. I think that when there is friendship, the boss has the harder job to balance work vs not letting friendship interfere w/your business decisions. 

 

I'll give an example from my experience. Six yrs ago, I strained my back when we were on business trip & I went to the ER and spent the week in a hotel room wondering how I was going to make it back cross country & home. That was the last work related flight I took. She never said I wasn't traveling any more because of my back. She decided that she needed me as the deputy to stay in the office. We both knew that wasn't the whole reason but it worked into my plans as well. Technically I could say that I was discriminated against because of the prejudice of my medical problems.  She knew I traveled on vacations & such, but truth is I wasn't sure I wanted to risk those long flights any more.  I also knew she was taking one of the less senior employees because I couldn't always be counted on. My intentions were good, but my body was frail. That less senior employee advanced very quickly too. Competition is tough.

 

My boss/friend always knew that she could call me at home any time day-night-weekend to discuss work or personal problems & that I'd stay up working thru nights to get something completed. That's the world of Info Tech & we both know that STRESS is a BIG trigger for migraines or any headaches & overlapping conditions. And Info Tech is one of the most stressful & competitive career fields around! Here's some points I think merit emphasis:

 

1. Realize your own reality. This is the only life you get and only you can decide how you want to live it w/the people/family that are most important to you. You need to make a realistic assessment of your capabilities & constraints.

 

2. Nobody gets promoted as a one time award. That's what a bonus is for. An employee should get promoted because they have demonstrated "sustained performance" with competence, skills, & dedication to duty. Employers have every right to expect that the promoted employee is going to keep up w/the pace. What I'm concerned about is that now you've given your boss the assurance that you'll do the job while indicating that you'll work your 40 hours. That's not what is getting your promotion and I'll bet that even though emotionally you'd like to stick w/the 40 hours a week, you'll still keep working in over-drive because that's what the job demands--and Info Tech is challenging & fun.

 

For the short-term, you might want to reconsider some of your aspirations in light of your whole situation that includes your health, husband & other responsibilities. Don't set yourself or your boss up for failure. If you want and get the promotion, then you have to be able to do deliver the work as expected. Otherwise, it's more difficult to readjust your career plans & working relationships if it doesn't work out. For the long-term, I'd recommend considering some of the other IT support specialties. I transitioned from very technical hands-on duties ultimately to the acquisition side of it. You've already made some significant adjustments working from home. Good luck & I'll watch for your posts.

11/23/07 6:22pm

I totally understand about how you feel but men have migraines too.  You definiately have a suit if you want to persue it! 

Do you have a personnel manager..only the manager not anyone else to file a complaint with.  Do not discuss this with anyone in the office and keep smiling!!!

It will make him wonder what you are up to!!

OK...in the meeting was there anyone else there to hear what he said?

Do you access to a Union?  Its kinda he said, she said but filing a complaint against him will get his attention...

Just remember...what goes around comes around and he just set his karma in motion.....he will regret ever doing that to you? You moves must be deliberate and forceful>>no playing around. 

Keep us informed!!

 

 

Anonymous
bev
11/23/07 7:04pm

I am so sorry and I totally undserstand they are deeming you fatal before they give you a chance.

 

If you were ready for a promotion and had proved yourself then you should have had the chance.

 

If you got teh promotion then had ot take alot o ftime off then the company could say to you we need someone more readuly available and tehn you could have sat down together and tried to work something out

 

I understand from employers points of view but they cant just bypass you if you deserve to at least be validated for the promotion

 

Can you sit with them and explain that and tell them to put you on a probationary period

 

GOod Luck

 

Bev

Anonymous
Gilda
11/23/07 7:26pm

Been there, done that - I won!! When it reached the point that you are at, I reflectedon all that was said and tole the boss,"fine, I'm not compenent, I will no longer do your job, you do it." And at that point I totally stopped doing ANYTHING but my job.

 

When the boss realized how much that I really did, including his job (it took a total of 9 weeks and a reprimand for him), I got the promotion, 6 weeks later he was fired. It was justice.

 

 

11/23/07 8:58pm

everyone's been so thoughtful, sharing ideas and everything. the thing of it is, i've worked with my boss for over 6 years and we're very close. good friends, as much as you can be with a boss, i guess. and he seemed so supportive of me health-wise, and when my husband had bypass surgery 2 years ago, and that sort of thing. so this whole thing was a complete surprise.

 

i did cool off, and then wrote an email identifying that i was still unclear about how my health had anything to do with my promote-ability, then went thru point by point identifying how well i do the job, including awards and bonuses i've received from the CEO, all very business-like, and then "respectfuly requesting" promotion. I sat on the email for 24 hours then sent it.

 

boss called me the next day and apologized for saying all the things he did, trying to make out like i misunderstood him, but i didn't let him get away with that. he finally said that he said some things that he shouldn't have said (covering his backside, i think). he said that after careful consideration and review of my work performance, he feels comfortable submitting my application for promotion (there's a whole process that it goes thru, boss doens't get to decide whether i get promoted or not, it goes way up the chain of command). so he said on Monday he'll be submitting it. i'm holding him to it.

 

i'm not trying to get anyone in trouble. i'm not trying to file suit. i don't want that. all i want is this promotion based on my past work performance. nothing else. but now this feels like it's being done just to prevent me from raising a stink about the discrimination. which i could really do. but i won't. you know? i guess promotion is promotion.

 

but like gilda, i'm not inclined to put in the extra effort anymore, knowing i'm not going to get rewarded for it. i'll put in my 40 hours, and that's that. they've been used to counting on me, calling me on weekends, evenings, early mornings when there's server issues (i'm a web developer), since i work from home, i can access everything and not have to go into the office. but i'm inclined not to answer the phone except during working hours. maybe that's just me being petty. i don't know.

 

i want the money. i want the promotion. i deserve it, for crying out loud.

11/23/07 8:51pm

Another comment.  I once worked for the Labor Relations Attorney for a huge retail corp.  I was involved in the NLRB and EEOC claims as well as the negotiations for labor unions.

Corporations will try to get by with a lot but they sorely dislike managers who openly discriminate since it can open them up to huge and costly investigations into all of their policies, office plants and hiring practices.

Hefty fines to criminal litigation as well as loss of public support once it hits the news (and they tend to hit if the company is one in the public eye) can be financially disasterous.

You actually could be doing the company a favor by bringing the issue to their attention.

Good Luck to you....I have horrific migraines at times too but am lucky to have a boss that has an attitude of "let me know when they start and let me know when you are well.  I won't even contact you until you give me the all clear"....A boss like that is one in a million. I hope you find one soon.

11/23/07 9:04pm

Cosmic Surfer, that's the way my boss has always been. i send an email or IM and say i'm getting the aura, and i'm gonna work until i can't work anymore and then i let him know when i'm back in the office. sometimes all it takes is 30 minutes in a dark place with an ice pack. and he's been good with that (or so i thought).

 

my husband has a very serious health condition and boss has been real easy to work with on that, very flexible with hours, as long as work gets done. that's why this situation is so surprising to me.

 

i don't want to get anyone in trouble. i just want recognition for a job well done, you know?

11/24/07 11:00pm

You DO deserve the recognition.  Is there a chance that the "boss" has someone else he wants to put into the job and is using this as an excuse?

I really believe it is time to take a look at your value and it sounds like your value is higher than your boss is willing to accept.  He may be a nice guy and it is honorable not to "want to get someone" in trouble but you deserve the promotion right?  Is it right that he is denying you the promotion?

I think the line is drawn.  Time to bring a 3rd party in to mediate

If he is not willing to get you what you deserve, time to stand up and confront the issue.  If he is reasonable, he will get you the promotion; If not then he deserves the confrontation of an HR person and his superior

11/25/07 12:22am

i DO deserve the promotion. i've been doing the job for over 2 years already. it's an asinine way to promote people but at my company, you do the job, then you prove that you've been doing it, then they promote you. whatever.

 

i really can't figure out what the deal is with boss. could be he feels threatened by me. i could do his job. i don't want to, but i could. maybe that's what's going on.

 

we'll see how it hashes out on monday. that's when he said he was going to put in for the promotion. i'll be following up.

11/23/07 10:30pm
I think you should deal with this via the human resources office at your company, and if there's no result, then with a lawyer's help.  Best of luck dealing with this guy.
Anonymous
Anonymous
11/27/07 1:03pm

I'm going to throw this comment in for everybody because I think it could be beneficial from a reality check. 

 

The best thing for now is for any employee to find a way to calm the situation down for the best workable outcome for both employee & her boss.  In most cases, if a situation can't be worked out btw the employee & the boss (and this one sounds like it can), it is almost always self-defeating to bring in HR, talk of unions, or file discrimination, or think about attorneys.  All that is going to do is crank up the heat & add so much stress that would be unbearable for any migraine suffered.  Lawyers cost money & they don't have to accept the job.  I don't think there's much of a claim here anyway. It 'could' be if there was a 'pattern' of discrimination over a period of time & possibly w/other employees.  But after further discussion, it sounds like this will be able to be worked out. 

 

I just wanted to add this insight to the thread for other's benefit as well.  I spent 20+ years mentoring employees thru all sorts of work issues including administrative grievances that I helped others successfully win.  In fact I ultimately did file an EEO claim against a upper mgmt jerk over my health & gender harrassment & discrimination, but it was as a LAST resort and I did it with stipulating what I considered would remedy to the problem.  I won easily hands down.  What I requested from the organization was a formal apology & agreement that I would not ever have to work w/that guy again.  Upper mgmt agreed to my terms, the guy (who was the Director's deputy) was reassigned, & I was able to concentrate back on my work w/o all of the additional stress he'd been putting on me. 

 

I think a happy resolution can be reached here & that's what we're all here for, to help our fellow migraine suffers live the best life that they can.  I just don't want to fan the flames if it can be avoided.

11/27/07 10:57pm

Yes, perhaps I should provide an update on what's happening with my situation.

 

My boss fretted for a long while after his comments to me, apparently. He called the next day and apologized profusely. He said that the company certainly did not believe that people with chronic illnesses were not promotable -- in fact, that health had nothing to do with promotability. It sounded to me like this was HIS issue and not the company's. So we talked about my work and my value as an employee rationally and calmly and he agreed that it is time for promotion and has submitted the promotion request up the chain of command as of today.

 

Whether they actually promote me or not will be a different matter. However, I kind of expect them to do it and do it quickly because of boss's comments to me.

 

We buried the hatchet and are working together again amiably.

 

Since I had no written proof of anything, just what was said over the phone, I wasn't anywhere near filing a discrimination suit or anything. I mainly was just frustrated and it sounds like other people have dealt with this type of thing before.

 

I thank everyone for their words of encouragement, wisdom, and reason. I will keep everyone posted as to the outcome.

Anonymous
Carolyn
11/28/07 1:46pm
I think you should fight for it. The company is obligated to work with people's disabilities. I am a full time student and I get my work done regardless of how bad my head hurts. I have a hunch that you are probably the same. And yes - in some cases it is impossible. My head hurts to the point where work is impossible, but not to where it effects my life in ways that I would not be able to be a competent employee. Fight for the job!

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