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Saturday, September 11, 2010 Denise Garrett asks

Q: There is a new surgery which if botox helps your migraines. ......

this surgery is possibly able to help stop migraines. It is called Ocipital nerve/fascia decompression. It's under a Dr. Barry Eppley on website. I'm thinking of having it done.Anybody every had this, or know anyone that has???

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Teri Robert, Health Guide
9/11/10 11:02pm

Hi, Denise,

 

We have some information on this procedure. Take a look at Plastic Surgery for Migraines? Maybe. My first thought is that since this treatment is relatively new for Migraine, if I were going to consider it, I'd prefer to go to the doctor who developed the procedure. That's Dr. Guyruon in Cleveland, Ohio, the doctor references in the link I gave you.

 

I'd never heard of Dr. Eppley, so I went to his web site. I guess I'm not looking in the right place, but I don't see any information on this procedure. What I did notice, and was surprised by is that he has a "special" on breast augmentation that just ended. Never saw a doctor put his services "on sale" before.

 

I came across some things you might want to check out if you consider going to him. Google his name. Here's one link that I don't know what to make of, http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/dr-barry-eppley-c246083.html. It's hard to know what to make of such things when you see them online since there are two sides to every story, but this would make me want to do some checking.

 

Teri

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3/15/12 2:43pm

I you are considering nerve decompression surgery, it is recommended that the surgeon be trained in peripheral nerve.  I recently asked my daughters surgeon why plastice surgeons and few neurosurgeons do nerve decompression surgery.

 

this was his response:

 

 

'In my humble opinion the safest and most predictable outcomes can be expected by those doctors who have specialized training in peripheral nerve surgery. That would include neurosurgeons and peripheral nerve surgeons, like myself. Plastic surgeons as the part of microsurgery training, get exposure to nerves, but no official peripheral nerve surgery training is received (with very few exceptions), unless they would do one year or peripheral nerve surgery fellowship, as I did. Considering that in this great country a doctors holding license to practice medicine and surgery (= this is what state MD license for any US state reads on its front page), anybody can claim they are peripheral nerve surgeons and anybody can do migraine headache or any other kind of nerve surgery. I do know that there is an explosion of “self proclaimed experts” doing migraine/headache nerve surgery, even regular peripheral nerve surgery, especially since economy is poor so “normal“ plastic surgery procedures are somewhat down.  

The end result is existence of several major issues: one is that patients unfortunately are not asking their surgeons do you have peripheral nerve surgery fellowship training, rather they are asking is there anybody nearby me doing these procedures, so they can save on travel/lodging expenses. So patients are choosing convenience over safety, expertise and experience. As far as doctors, anybody can end up doping these surgeries. Ultimately, failure of surgery to help, complications and other will generate so much doubts in neurologists and pain specialists, that they will say, surgery is not helping, or can generate complications. Not to say, that medico-legal issues will flourish as well. The exact same, historically looking, happened with treatment of diabetic neuropathy (where who is doing surgery, when, and on what patient determined success vs. failure). Once this gets to insurance career ears, as they will easily see due to incoming bills, they will start declining coverage and patients will find themselves in even bigger troubles.

This all is what patients do not see “advertised” on front page son internet pages, and this is what doctors across the country do not like to hear, actually would find very arrogant and offensive from my side, as someone’s entitlement often overrides safety, experience and expertise."

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3/17/12 12:32pm

I had this done a few years ago. I don't want to dissappoint you. However, my insurance paid for it at the time. Now he doesn't accept insurance. I think to be cut open in your head, and have them mess with your cranial arteries is kind of serious. I had it in my temples and back of my head, down by the neck.  I can tell you that for a few months, it helped. But. I'm told that "nerves" grow back, so it's not guaranteed, and it's not permanent as I expected it to be. But.......for the back of my head........It must have somewhat worked, because, I don't get the "intial pounding" in the back of my head. Just in my temples. I've had 2 that were kind of in the back. But, as far as that first sudden pounding, like I get in the temple region, it's not in the back of my head anymore. So, whatever he did back there seem to work.  I would really thing about it. I get Botox, and it helps me. It doesn't take them away completely. But, I do have good days. I also can treat the migraine, and the duration is not as long. But.........that beings said, there are still times, where nothing helps about 2-3 times a month, and I may have to go to the ER. But.....compared to where I was, which was having them EVERY day,...........I'm doing much better. I still have the migraines, but they don't beat me down so bad. I'd go with Botox, and not have this surgery. That's my opinion. God bless you and hope all goes well with you!!        Denise

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3/19/12 7:42pm

Hi Denise,

 

It is so good to hear you are feeling better. You must relieved that your pain is down a bit.

 

Great job! I couldn't be happier for you.

 

Nancy 

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7/30/12 1:25am

HI,  If you had nerve decompression surgery, the arteries are not manipulated.  nerve decompression is done on the peripheral nerves. 

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6/ 9/12 11:28pm

I had it done on the 31st of may. so far so good I think. If your still considering it or chose not to have it done and may want to reconsider check out migrainesurgery.com ... I had Dr. K Kiabani do the procuder as he is periphial nerve certified and has been on the leading edge of this procedure. He is in Las Vegas. I live in Arizona and like I said so far it was worth the drive, over night stay and return trips for follow-ups. I don't expect a cure, just  relief if even temporary from the daily agony and the narcotic pain meds that I can't seem to live with or without at this point.

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By Denise Garrett— Last Modified: 07/30/12, First Published: 09/11/10