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Solumedrol~Ugh!
Erin
Friday, November 21, 2008 at 04:11 PMre: Solumedrol~Ugh!
Lisa Emrich
Saturday, November 22, 2008 at 10:32 AMAbby,
I'm so sorry to hear that you might be on the juice again soon. But good for you for getting into the MS Clinic. I have high hopes that you'll get the attention and treatment you deserve. Inattentive doctors - Aargh!!
The first time I did steroids, it was oral Prednisone - 1000mg for 3 days plus taper. I would NEVER recommend that to anyone. It was a horrible, horrible, bad, bad experience.
Five years later when I did my first round of IVSM with Prednisone taper, it was really not very pleasant. I was out basically for three weeks before I really could start to function again. Prednisone = bad.
But afterwards I thought to myself, "Ok, if I only have to do that every five years, then I suppose I can handle it." Haha. Six months later, back on the drip. This time with a Decadron taper. Ah, much better.
Knowing what to expect helps me the most. Knowing that I'm going to be a blob who can't sleep or think makes dealing with it easier. The most recent round I did was before Spring break. This was good timing since it's the first week after the IVSM that I'm my worst.
Again, knowing what to expect makes the ride somewhat smoother. Good luck with the new doctor.
Lisa
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Additional Comment
Candy lee
Friday, November 21, 2008 at 04:24 PMBoy,
It sounds as if you are in my body when I am taking IVSM. I wold like to add one other thing that happens to me. On my 2nd or 3rd day the nurses at my IV hospital, have a fan for me, I turn red as a beet in my face and on my neck and stay that way until the day after my last IV. It's not painful, it's just that I feel like I look like Rudolph's red nose

Candy
re: Additional Comment
Lisa Emrich
Saturday, November 22, 2008 at 10:15 AMHi Candy,
It's so validating to know that others experience many of the same things. I don't think that my face gets red, but I do know that we watch my bloodpressure closely during infusions.
In fact, I usually get a little cold sitting there for so long. Last time around the nurse brought me the heating pad to place under the blanket. Aw, that was nice.
Thanks for reading and commenting. I appreciate it.
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What was that other steroid?
TheQueen
Saturday, November 22, 2008 at 09:27 AMDuring one stay in the hospital there was a solumedrol shortage and instead they used an IV steriod that started with a D. Heaven. You'd only get 100mg of it instead of 1000, and there were NO side effects. I simultaneously laughed and cried on the solumedrol, with this D stuff I could have hosted a tea party in my hospital room.
re: What was that other steroid?
Lisa Emrich
Saturday, November 22, 2008 at 10:11 AMHiya Queen,
I think this must have been dexamethasone (aka Decadron). Although I've never used it intravenously, I have used the oral form during the oral taper. It is so much easier on my system than Prednisone.
Kinda funny. My neurologist is surprised because he says that more people do better with Prednisone and not as well with Decadron. I reserve the right to be different.

I do know that oral Decadron is about 5x stronger than oral Prednisone. Maybe you got off easy with a lower dose (lol, as if any of these dosages could be considered lower) and only had half strength infusion.
In any case, you know what to ask for next time if necessary. I'll have to ask my neuro about the difference in the IV solutions sometime. I'd much rather be hosting tea parties than emotional rollercoasters.
re: re: What was that other steroid?
TheQueen
Saturday, November 22, 2008 at 11:04 AM -
what I remember
Anonymous
Saturday, November 22, 2008 at 11:41 AMAhhh yes, the five day IV. I didn't get the "dirty metal" taste in my mouth until about day three. I always came prepared with a double chocolate donut and an iced cappuccino to fight the yuckies!
My five day IV was followed by an oral taper. I can't say for sure when these things happened, but I remember hearing things, quite distinctly, that weren't actually happening: running water, the crinkling of grocery bags.
I also had a very short fuse, compared with my now longggg fuse!
Emily
re: what I remember
Lisa Emrich
Monday, November 24, 2008 at 05:35 PMHi Emily,
It's funny that you mention sounds. Occasionally, sounds drive me crazy. What will be a teeny-tiny, nobody-else-can-hear-it sound is so loud that I want to strangle the source. Good thing that folks around me understand the situation and just calmly let me be.
But you know what, I think that the double chocolate donut and cappuccino should be regular treatments for many different things. Hmmmm, now I think I need some chocolate.
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Oral solumedrol
Julie
Monday, November 24, 2008 at 11:56 AMI've done the solumedrol treatment twice, once IV and the second time orally. The IV version didn't go well for me since I also have tiny veins and when the nurse tried to reset the IV on the fourth day, she poked me repeatedly, blowing out veins until I was crying and she was frazzled. We agreed to give up.
The second time, I declined the IV drip, my neurologist was very concerned so she told me that I could try it orally, which is not too commonly done. Of course, it doesn't absorb as well vs the bloodstream, but it was better than not doing anything. It took a special order thru the pharmacy and then the pharmacist showed me how to mix it with a syringe. I mixed it into cranberry juice because it was sort of like drinking battery acid -- not recommended for weak stomachs -- and then sipped slowed over an hour.
For me, this is much more preferable than the IV method and if I ever need this intervention again, this is the route I will take.
Anyone hear of downsides to doing it this way?
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Lisa Emrich
Monday, November 24, 2008 at 05:31 PMJulie,
I've done the IV route three times so far and one time with all oral Prednisone (mentioned above in a comment). Personally, the oral prednisone was very difficult but that's probably due to the steroid of choice at the time and not the method of use.
I've never heard of mixing Solumedrol into a drink and taking it that way. I have heard of injecting it into muscles however. Did you experience the other steroid related side-effects? I'm curious.
So sorry that the nurse didn't get a good line in on the first day which latest throughout the round of treatment. I've always babied the IV line so that wouldn't happen, but I know that it does happen to other folks cause the nurse always praises me when we make it to the end with only one needle.
It's nice to learn that there are other options for folks. There's also another drug which can be self-injected into the muscles, Acthar Gel. But with a drastic price increase last year, the 2 vials which it takes to complete the round can cost $50,000. Insane!!!
Thanks for educating me a little.

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Tracey
Thursday, November 27, 2008 at 01:05 AM -
Completely agree!
Lauren
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 at 08:10 AMI could not have written this post better myself! Everything you wrote sounds just like what I experience when on my 5-day dose. As far as being hungry, I always try to find something "semi" healthy to eat that will curb my appetite so that I don't eat & eat because that, combined with the indegestion that the medicine sometime causes, will make my stomach upset. When the 5th day is over & it's time to come off, watch out! It is like I am in the peak stages of a drug rehab or something! I imagine it must be similar to that since my body is wondering where the Solumedrol is! I do take the Medrol Dose Pack, & it helps. Also, since the Solumedrol gives me a surge of energy while in the 5-days, I always crash the 6th or 7th day once the medicine is over. I've just accepted that & expect it each time, so if I don't crash it's not a bad thing but if I didn't expect it & did crash, it can ruin a weekend, etc. Also, I try to drink a lot of orange juice since it has the citrus taste which is not bad with the metal taste, plus it can possible help with the immune system issue that Solumedrol causes. I really enjoyed reading this post! Thanks!

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Jughead
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 at 12:38 AMI feel slighted, I never got to go in anywhere to get my IV, I have always done them at home. The nurse comes to the house, puts the plug in, then I'm responsible for flushing it out, hooking up a new bag, and opening my own Doritos! I've taken so much of this stuff over the years, they think it has caused a couple of bulging disks in my back. I suppose I should be happy that the bone density tests always come back good.
Relax
Johnny
Monday, December 15, 2008 at 06:31 PMI'm a nurse with MS so I don't mind infusing myself, in fact I prefer infusing at home for a couple of reasons. I don't have to drive to the clinic. I pick the exact time I'm ready to infuse. I can get comfortable in bed or on the couch with a blanket or pillows and just relax. This relaxed atomosphere helps me get in touch with the benefits of why I'm infusing this drug in to my body. It may sound funny, but when that metal taste comes I get a mental picture in my head. I see the medication entering every lesion, calming them down. After the infusion I can lay back and relax even more. Just resting and letting the drug do it's thing. All of this really helps me make the best of it. Johnny
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Lisa Emrich
Monday, December 15, 2008 at 06:49 PMHi Johnny, you make it sound like such a Zen experience.

Are you able to get the IV started on yourself? If so, I'm sincerely impressed.
I wouldn't mind flushing the line and all that stuff. But I'm fortunate, my neurologist's office is only about 10 minutes from my house. And if you look at my response to Jughead (just left it), I am usually already at the neuro's office when the call for IVSM is made. Very convenient.
Sounds like you've gone the routine down. Thanks for your comment.
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Johnny
Monday, December 15, 2008 at 07:21 PMHi Lynn,
A one handed IV start would be something. No, I leave that to the real professionals.
Actually I try the Zen thing to keep me from bouncing off the ceiling from the drug rush.
Just finished my third gram yesterday so I'm still holding on to the anticipated good outcome in a week or so when I usually get the positive results of feeling better.re: Untitled Comment
Lisa Emrich
Monday, December 15, 2008 at 06:45 PMHey Jughead,
Good to see you here (sorry it took so long for me to answer - off topic, I finally have heat at home, yippee).
It's funny. This is what usually happens when I've got to do the IVSM. I call the MS nurse and she asks, "how are you? so what's up?" Then I describe what had been brewing for a week or so. After much more discussion, she says, "well, I think you need to come in and be seen." Me - yeah, that's what I thought.
Then I get an appointment for the next morning. See the neurologist or his assistant who says, "well.... I think we need to do a round of steroids. Do you have any place to be right now?" Me - nope, I even brought the book cause I just KNEW you were going to say that. Then I walk down the hall to the infusion center and get started.
See..."they" never let me leave (lol) before juicing me up. I've never been offered the choice of doing it at home.

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dreaded IVSM
Melissa Peterson
Wednesday, May 06, 2009 at 09:43 AMI am currently on my 2nd round of this lovely stuff. I agree, it is like PMS in a bag. I was diagnosed with MS in 2000. I was on Avonex for 8 years, but last December, my Neuro. switched me to Copaxone. I had a really bad excacerbation in Aug. 08 and was out for a little over 5 weeks. That was my first time going on the IV drug. It is a rough drug, but in the end it helped. I go today for my 3rd treatment. One thing that I have found that helps with the metallic taste is chocolate milk. I sip slowly on it when they hook my line up. These are the worse attacks that I have had in almost 9 yrs. of this disease. I know of others that have had it alot worse- so I try to stay positive. It could have been worse- they first thought that I had a brain tumor and I was told it would be in-operable. When I get down, I try to think of that. Hang in there, I know some of the treatment sucks.
Take Care,
Melissa Peterson
re: dreaded IVSM
Lisa Emrich
Wednesday, May 06, 2009 at 10:44 AMMelissa,
Thank you for the chocolate milk suggestion. I've personally used the Jolly Ranchers or LifeSaver mints. I wonder if chocolate soy milk works as well.
I hope that this round of Solumedrol goes more smoothly for you. Just knowing what to expect has helped me cope with it better. And I hope that Copaxone works for you. It is the drug I use and seems to be doing a good job.
Now get some rest.
re: re: dreaded IVSM
Melissa
Wednesday, May 06, 2009 at 11:14 AMLisa, thanks. It is good to talk to others about all of our experiences. It's hard to explain to people that can't sometimes see a "visual" of what we experience. From what my nurse at the infusion clinic has told me, the chocolate itself masks the bitterness. I'm sure the chocolate soy would be just as good. I usually get the Nestle Quik chocolate milk in the bottle, like I had as a kid. You take care and hope you co well.
Thanks for chatting with me,
Melissa
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Wonderful!
Joan
Friday, May 15, 2009 at 05:08 PM
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Can it really be a smooth ride? "Roid Rage", heart pounding, lack of sleep which increases the roid rage, and food. Oh, the food.
Someone needs to video tape me while I'm eating so I can see it later. That way I'll learn to slow down!
Your tips are great for me to remember for the next round, which I'm afraid to say is probably going to be real soon.