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trrish
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 07:39 PMre: Untitled Comment
Lisa Emrich
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 09:10 PMHi Trish,
It's great to see you here. Like you, steroids affect me for weeks afterwards. I can count on being out of commission for at least 3 weeks. They are harsh to the body, but I found that the times I waited for the relapse to fade on its own, my recovery was much slower even after doing the steroids. If I acted quickly, the relapse resolved more quickly.
Absolutely, it is the patient's choice whether to use Solumedrol or not. Some doctors prefer to use steroids and some prefer to wait and see. It was very nice to see it written down that not all relapses require steroids. I hope that that point spoke clearly in this piece because it is true.
Maybe you could share some of your dietary changes you've made. I'm sure that folks would benefit from your experience. Isn't it interesting that NOTHING with MS is one-size-fits-all.
diet changes
trrish
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 11:07 PMHi Lisa! :-)
I have been recommending this book - the MS Recovery Diet, by Ann Sawyer and Julie Bachrach. Here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/MS-Recovery-Diet-Ann-Sawyer/dp/158333288X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242183120&sr=1-1
That will give one a good overview of the theory behind the diet changes, and some great stories about people who have tried it out. From there, you can take a look at the MS-Diet.org site, based on the work of Ashton Embry, read Roger MacDougall's booklet http://www.direct-ms.org/rogermcdougall.html and see what makes sense to you. I resisted it for YEARS! But I have embraced gluten-free, dairy-free and a few other things and I am doing better than I have in years. (I also thank Tysabri for half of it. I've had no lesion progressions since I've been on it.) The first two months I was not happy, but I did a lot of research and figured out foods that could make it work for me.
I have written some about it in my blog as well. http://trrisp.blogspot.com
I wish someone could have handed me the MS Recovery Diet book when I was newly diagnosed 10 years ago. But it wasn't written until 2007. I can't recommend giving it a try highly enough.
re: re: How Long?
Lisa Emrich
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 10:18 PMHi Helen,
When my vision is involved, I DO NOT wait!! If my symptoms are confined to numbness or tingling in a small area and do not spread, I will usually wait at least a week to see what develops. If the numbness spreads, say from my hand to up my arm, I will call the neurologist. I've experienced a few relapses affecting this area and know that what follows soon thereafter is weakness and inability to use my hand/arm.
Usually by the time I've called my MS nurse, she knows that I've given it some time to resolve on its own. Except for my vision, relapses don't tend to come and go suddenly for me. They tend to develop slowly. At a minimum, I give it 72 hours before calling. But, then again, I can get into my doctor the very next morning when I do call and plan to stay for Solumedrol before I leave. It is very convenient.
re: re: re: re: How Long?
Lisa Emrich
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 10:50 PMOther than what I describe in this post - Solumedrol: It's All the Rage!! - I get very weak, fatigued, and emotional. I will tend to sleep most of the time for about two weeks after IVSM. My brain becomes very foggy and my body aches. It usually takes me several weeks to truly begin to feel "normal" and better.
Sometimes I will even experience a rebound of increased symptoms (if they had become less during the IV treatments) when I move to oral Dexadron (which is like Prednisone). But that is temporary and doesn't last long, at least with me.
Certainly call your doctor in the morning and report your new symptoms. Only your doctor can help you decide what approach is best for you. I wish you the best.
re: How Long?
tellnhelen
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 10:23 PMHow long do you wait for symptoms to subside? I had a flare /hospitalization in Mar 09. They pumped me up with steroids and got me back on my feet (with a walker). Upon going home I started PT. Things seemed to be going well until the drugs wore off. I became so stiff and weak that I asked for and received more ste roids. I felt better but knew it was really the drugs.
Since the steroids are completed, not only do I feel bad again, I have had numb fingertips for the last week. A couple of days ago I called the dr. He made a note but did not rx anymore steroids. I did not want any more. My fingers are numb.and its affecting my limited ability. It's been a week and I am scared. Should I press the doc for something to help? (not steroids)
How long would you wait for feeling to return to your fingertips? I just afraid that waiting might make this permanent
re: re: How Long?
Lisa Emrich
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 10:36 PMHelen,
It's different after you've already received the steroids. They do not automatically fix everything and they do not change the course of the disease. They just help to stop the inflammation and speed up the resolution of an exacerbation.
However, it may take days/weeks/months for those symptoms to resolve after a major flare. Sometimes the symptoms do not resolve, but might become a bit more mild. I have residual symptoms from every single major exacerbation I've ever experienced.
Be patient and give your body time to try to heal. Follow the advice of your physical therapist. A good PT is quite valuable in helping you to recover from a relapse. At this point, listen to your body and try to be easy on yourself. How is the PT going? Is your strength and ability to walk improving?
re: re: re: How Long?
tellnhelen
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 10:48 PMMy PT was interrupted due to insurance issues. Will resume next week. It was going OK; focused mainly on balance and walking. When I go again I'll tellher about the fingers. I gonna to call the doc tomorrow to hear his opinion. In the meantime I will continue exercising in the pool
thanx for your kind words. I kinda scared right now praying for a good outcome
re: re: re: re: How Long?
trrish
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 11:14 PMI think the worst thing about waiting out the episode - whether doing steroids or not - is that feeling that you don't know if your current symptoms will ever go away. I remembering wondering if being numb from my shoulders to my knees was going to be my permanent situation. (I did take advantage of it and got a tattoo. Still hurt like all get out). it did eventually pass, which is the beauty, if you will, of RRMS. I know that for some people, we do end up with permanent 'symptoms'. It's hard not knowing which way it will go.
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No steroid experience here
kelldey
Thursday, May 14, 2009 at 04:33 PMLisa,
Great post, as always! When I had my exacerbation that led to diagnosis last year, I did not receive any steroids, since no one really knew why my left leg and arm didn't work and why I had vertigo. The symptoms came on very suddenly (like I woke up one morning walking like a drunk!) and went away over the course of 3-4 weeks.
Like you, I would immediately alert my physician if anything happens with my vision, as I am already visually impaired (from birth, not MS).
I am currently experiencing some persistent tingling/numbness of the pinkies and that side of my hand in both hands and some leg cramping at night. This has been going on for a couple of weeks, but I'm not sure if this is a relapse or due to overuse. I see the neurologist for my checkup early in June, so I think it can wait until then.
Keep up the great work of informing the MS community!
Peace,
Kelley
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Fatigue Relapse?
Joan
Friday, May 15, 2009 at 05:15 PMHas anyone heard of a "Fatigue Exacerbation" where the only symptom is extreme fatigue, worse than the "normal" fatigue experience? I think that's what happened to me a few months ago (lasted over two months), and the neuro is thinking that I should start the pulse steroids. But he didn't think that "just fatigue" counted as an exacerbation. Either way, he thinks the steroids will help. But we're waiting for another weird episode before starting.
Thanks for this great information, Lisa!
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Very helpful
Pam1010
Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 10:38 AMIt's oddly comforting to find questions I have yet put into words answered here.
The doctor's initial recommendation was that I return to his office 5 days in a row for a 2 hour IV of steroids followed by the Oral Prednisone Taper. In an effort to minimize the disruption in my daughter's workday (I count on her to get me places) he agreed to the oral taper alone.
I'm also diabetic and my sugars since starting on the Prednisone have been way high, even with the increase in my regular insulin following the sliding scale.
I've always loved how the internet helps quench my thirst for knowledge of most things but never more than I do here, at this site, and now, at this crossroad in my life.
Again, thank you.
--Pam
re: Very helpful
Lisa Emrich
Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 09:24 PMPam, I'm so glad that your questions were answered. That is what I hope to provide - the answers to unasked questions.

So your neurologist did suggest the Solumedrol infusions but you went with the taper only instead. OKay. If you still do not see any improvements in a little while longer, you might reconsider the IV. It's a pain in the butt, but necessary at times.
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I hate steroids! Everybody has to do what is right for them, of course. I don't do steroids anymore. They make me a crazy lady, and I am messed up for weeks afterward. I honestly don't believe "most people" react well to them. An episode doesn't "need" steroid treatment. It's a trade-off, and it should always be presented as such. It's a choice that you get to make, not your dr. Now, I wait my episodes out and make sure my diet is in tip-top shape (no gluten, dairy, soy). I at least maintain my sanity :-)