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You, Me and the Internet
Michaelbgerber
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 07:05 PMre: You, Me and the Internet
Lisa Emrich
Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 04:09 PMMichael,
You are so kind and generous with your words. You make me smile!! The concept of builders, sub-contractors, and licenses cracked me up.
It makes me happy to see folks with MS be so engaged within the community and empowered in taking charge of their healthcare needs. A community does have and may need its leaders, but to be healthy its more than just that.
I think of the various roles and inter-dynamics of a french horn section in a symphony orchestra. There is the Principal horn player who has the major of the solos. He/she sets the tone of the section (that is if it's a good section). The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th horn players provide an equal, yet supportive, function within the section. Each person has their own part and role to play. If one slacks off the entire section is diminished.
Oftentimes, the 3rd horn player is the leader within in the music depending upon how it was composed. However, even 4th horn players get solos and kudos (see Beethoven's 9th Symphony for an example).
I always enjoyed playing 2nd horn. It is probably the most important part for a few reasons. The range required is wider than that of any other part and the technical challenges are more demanding. The 2nd horn player must be perfectly intune and match the style of the principal player, otherwise the section cannot play as one. It is generally more difficult to make your own playing match others around you without allowing ego to enter and interfere. The 2nd horn player can make or break the section single-handedly.
Then there's the Assistant principal horn player. Often a thankless job. You typically play many of the loud tutti sections and must then follow the lead of the 3rd horn player who is 3 persons to your right (hard to hear). You often sit for very long stretches of time, not playing, so as to get cold "chops" which are less sensitive to control. Basically, your sole duty is to take the load off of the Principal player so that he/she can shine in the exposed solo moments. You do a lot of grunt work, but get no recognition except that which is given by the players sitting closest to you.
Ok, what was I talking about?
Leaders and licensing. I think that you definitely have your licensed and are certified in MS community building and leadership. Thank you so much for your supportive words and generous nature.
Whether we are e-patients, patients, suvivors, whatever....we are most importantly COMMUNITY!!
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living day to day with Multiple Sclerosis
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 10:28 PMLisa,
You are an inspiration and leader to so many people. You have so much insight and information to give. I too have found that through the blogging community there are so many people afflicted with this disease and are so inspiring and helpful. I always say that when you get diagnosed with MS, you have joined a huge family of support and people that are very caring, understanding, and helpful. I have noticed that people with MS use blogging in so many ways to help comfort themselves and others. They may write about their journey with MS, they sometimes find ways to write using humor to help others, or they use it to giving the newest up to date information about MS. I myself write about my journey in hopes to help others but my biggest goal is to get infomation about MS out in the open since it seems as though not many people know what it is or understand it.
Thank you for everything you do for the MS community.
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Lisa Emrich
Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 04:12 PMTara,
Thank you so much!! I love that you use your blog to help spread awareness about the disease and information for other MSers to find in their searches. I really had no idea how warm the MS blogging community was until I barged in and announced myself. A few folks were suspicious of my motives, but I really just wanted to create something (with the Carnival) which was our own and similar to what other medical-blogging folks had going on. I think that it's worked out ok so far. ;)
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Yeah! Me too!
Zoomdoggies
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 02:50 PMFor a disease that can present such an incredible variety of symptoms and severity, the online community can be a source of validation. No matter how bizarre the symptom, there's always someone else out there who had the same thing. You're not crazy. Or, if you are, at least you're not alone.
There are lots of sources of information about MS, and about available resources and treatment options. The community of other people with dealing with MS is the only place where I find myself saying "Yeah! Me too!"
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Lisa Emrich
Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 04:17 PMYeah! Me too!! Too!
The validation is wonderful; and the commonalities we have with our own uniquenesses is reassuring. I love this quote: "You're not crazy. Or, if you are, at least you're not alone."
That alone says so much about our experiences in living with this disease. I often return to the thought that I would never have met another person (in real life) who has both RA and MS without being part of this online community. I feel much less alone knowing that I'm not the only one.
Although I see myself as helping others foremost, I sometimes get a little help from my friends too.

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Vicki
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 06:13 PMYou seem to fit into the e-patient with your "Educate, Encourage, and Empower" and then ith Michael's suggeations "E-leader", "e-educator" or "e-xample." Good words.
Ah, Devics. I have a friend with Devics. She is a real trooper.
Well, I remember telling my doctor I was tired of the MS thing and didn't want it any more. He reminded me I never did really want it. Oh, yeah. We all have our momements when we say the MS is unwanted or it can take a hike, and we are surprised to realize we said it out loud.
It must have been the MS talking, playing another trick on us. Take a hike, I don't want you here.
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Lisa Emrich
Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 04:25 PMMichael's words are powerful and have struck me at how important my relationship with others online has become. I participate because I want to, not because anybody is making me, nor because it is a full-time job (although compensation is always nice).
With the diagnosis of transverse myelitis (before the official MS dx) and a history of optic neuritis, we took a closer look at Devic's. The obvious reason (given by the neurologist) that this was more unlikely was the time between the major attacks. However, I did certainly have troubles which could have been the result of cervical lesions in the year of the blinding case of optic neuritis. I simply blamed my horrible experience with oral prednisone on any problems I had with walking, balance, numbness, etc for at least six months. (Not having insurance at the time was one reason I stuck my head in the sand and thanked God for a dx of a one-time single event which didn't mean anything beyond itself...at the time).
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e-friends and sick of IT
Maris B. Mohr
Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 12:46 AMI don't remember if I've said this before, but it's a good way to start my day. Outside of my immediate family the people I'm closest with are my e-friends. I've met one and not been disappointed. I've spoken to another on the phone. They are great people and true friends. Somehow we can say more when we're sharing like this than when people sit in a gripe-group or something.
Re: MS - I'm sick of shots after almost 11 years. I'm sick of PAIN after 30 years. I'm sick of the lables the meds and the excuses drs give. In other words, I'M SICK OF THE WHOLE THING!
OK, I said it.
Have a beautiful day.
Maris
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Lisa Emrich
Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 04:31 PMMaris,
I have also developed some truly great friendships within the online MS community. I've only met two of these folks in person. One has turned out to be a good friendship and someone I've even called when just wanting to talk to someone. And another which has turned out to be about as opposite as you can imagine a friendship might be (not so friendly afterall).
I think that we can understand each other so much better than our medical professionals. When you say that you're sick of it all, I understand although I haven't had the exact same experiences.
So here's to saying "sick of it all" and getting on with a beautiful day which I hope you've had.

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Suz
Friday, November 06, 2009 at 08:38 AMLisa - i just had to chime in and say that the impact your blogs and experiences and support and kindness have helped me to fish through the weeds of ambiguity of all of this. Since i am in limbo it's hard to not feel like a fish out of water or like i don't really "fit in" anywhere and lurk around on sites looking for answers. Searching the internet for countless hours and this is my go to site pretty much daily - So grateful - it's like a lifeline being thrown out to you - my cousin who has lupus went thru chemo and kidney failure said that going thru something like this can be a very lonely journey - well, you guys have made a safeplace to land...gratefully my family has been truly wonderful - but i know how hard it is for them to truly get it. so all of you who have taken your time to log your experiences and offer your advise are invaluable for people like myself.
i'm a musician too - but moved to vt - i was traveling for awhile back and forth to nyc to play, rehearse, gig, etc. It all stopped when i could no longer drive long distances or in heavy traffic or even had energy to think and play. Your honesty in dealing with depression, when i felt i'd lost what was a big part of my identity, has hit my heart and helped in rethinking, reinventing, and being kinder to myself. i''ve gotten back to playing at my own pace.
Thank you isn't enough but it's all i have - hope you have a beautiful weekend.
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The term "e-patient" is wholly inadequate when it comes to describing you. "E-leader", "e-educator" or "e-xample" seem more appropriate. You, along with a handful of others have really been our MS Community builders and being part of a community does make living with this puppy a whole lot easier.
What do I seek from the internet and our communities? Information, education and relationships. I also use the internet to post my own views about life. Like you, it helps me to do that and my hope is that my perspective(s) will help others too. My blogs get read (www.mgerber.blogspot.com ) and that is a good thing. Yet I don't see myself as a community builder today. More like a "sub-contractor." Maybe someday I will ‘earn my license'.
Until then I am glad and grateful to have found my on-line community and will continue to rely on the internet sources I have found....like you.
Michael