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I was diagnosed very recently with MS.

I have two awesome kids and a great husband. I work as a dental...

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Monday, July 20, 2009
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I started Copaxone on Wed. and all I can say is OUCH!!! The initial shot is ok but about 2 minutes after it burns so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It even hurts a little the next day at the injection site. I actually couldnt even bring myself to take it the last 2 nights. I am disappointed in myself and feel lik...
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    Lisa Emrich
    Monday, July 20, 2009 at 07:09 PM

    Karen,

     

    I remember those early days of Copaxone when the burning was the worst.  But it does get better over time.  Try experimenting with the injection depth and use a little heat to help increase circulation to disperse the medication.  Be sure to rotate injection sites.

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    karen
    Monday, July 20, 2009 at 10:04 PM

    thanks for the advice. I will try it tonight when I give the injection another try. I know I need to keep trying. Im glad to know it will get better.

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    Lisa Emrich
    Monday, July 20, 2009 at 10:10 PM

    Karen,

     

    If you haven't already found it here onsite, please read Beginner's Guide to MS: Subcutaneous Injections, 7 Tips for Reduced Pain and Skin Irritation

     

    I do hope that it gets better very soon, but I've gotta be honest.  When I haven't been rotating shots like I should, and return to an area which hasn't been used in weeks, the injection will burn.  The tissue seems to become more sensitive again when not exposed to the 'battery-acid' injection.  Another benefit to rotating faithfully.

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    karen
    Monday, July 20, 2009 at 10:15 PM

    Thanks, that was really informative! Im sure it will be very helpful.

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    karen
    Tuesday, July 21, 2009 at 08:44 PM

    I wanted to make sure I got this right. You said it was ok to leave 5 or so of the syringes out and ready at room temp.? This wont affect the medicine? Also do you give yourself your shots, if so how do you do the ones on your backside?

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    Lisa Emrich
    Tuesday, July 21, 2009 at 09:22 PM

    It is ok to leave Copaxone at room temperature for 30 days according to TEVA who makes it.  I recommend that you call Shared Solutions and request the small travel containers which hold 5 syringes.  This is what I keep mine in when not in the refrigerator.

     

    For injections on my backside, I definitely use the autoject to help me reach.  I simply reach around as far as is comfortable and inject in the area which most people would call their hips.  Basically wherever you might have extra cushion is useful for injections, for instance I use my saddle bags (outer, upper thighs) too.

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    karen
    Wednesday, July 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM

    Lisa, thanks for getting back to me. It sure helps to talk to someone who has gone through this for advice.

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    karen
    Wednesday, July 22, 2009 at 10:42 PM

    When there is a little bleeding after the injection does that mean I am going to deep? I injected into my thigh at a "6" and had some bleeding. Also the area seems to swell and really hurt for about a half an hour. Does that still happen to you? Im just really hoping this will get better! Sorry to ask so many questions, im just worried that this is going ok. Thanks

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    Lisa Emrich
    Thursday, July 23, 2009 at 08:26 PM

    Hi Karen,

     

    Bleeding after the injection and/or a little bit of leaking is normal.  So a little bit of blood doesn't mean that you've injected too deep.  Simply use a cotton ball to help seal the injection site afterwards.  The swelling is unfortunately normal as well.  You might want to try applying an icepack afterwards.  I've not done this but other folks say that it seems to help.  BTW, I still get swelling on my thighs and often get a few drops of blood.  Hang in there.

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    karen
    Friday, July 24, 2009 at 02:11 PM

    Thanks.Im hanging in there and it seems to get better each time. Thanks to the support ive recieved from this site (it has sure helped me be more at ease.)

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  2. I hope it gets better for you...
    Merely Me
    Monday, July 20, 2009 at 10:04 PM

    Hi there

     

    Was wondering if you have a nurse or someone to show you if there is a way to inject without so much pain.  I hate to see you suffer like this.  I do hope the injections go better over time.

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    karen
    Monday, July 20, 2009 at 10:10 PM

    I did have a nurse show me how to do the first shot so im not sure what i could be doing wrong. My husbands been doing the injections. So I guess I can get mad at him..just kidding. Im going to keep trying and pray it will get better. I just get frustrated too easy! Thanks!!

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  3. Copaxone Compassion
    Amy Gurowitz
    Wednesday, July 22, 2009 at 11:06 PM

    Hi Karen,

    Just wanted to add my experience to the comments you've already received. I have been on Copaxone for 15 years, and can clearly remember the experience you are having. I started the medication before it was FDA approved, and there weren't auto-inject options (and the needle was much bigger!) At the time I iced the area to numb it a bit before injecting. Because I never used the auto, I've always done it freehand... and had good luck with that. In fact, I received small plastic collars (for lack of a better term) that make hand-held injection much easier. Here is a link to some pictures on my blog.(and if you have time, I'd be honored if you read some of it.)

     

    My doctor and I have decided that I would benefit from a switch to Rebif and I'm now revisiting all of those memories of transitioning to a new med. It's not fun to consider- though I'm trying to soothe myself with the knowledge that the adjustment period will be just that.. a period of time.. to move past.  I wish you the best with Copaxone. It did wonders for me. Keep in touch... and feel free to ask any questions that may come up.

    ~Amy

     

    P.S.- If you are interested, and can't find the collars on the Shared Solutions site, I'd be happy to send one to you.

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    karen
    Friday, July 24, 2009 at 02:16 PM

    Hi Ami. thanks for your reply. I did get on your myspace and looked around a bit. You have alot of interesting things on there and when I have more time I will keep looking. Its great to hear stories and experiences from other MSers. Will you be starting the rebiff soon? I wish you lots of luck with the switch!!! I am so hopeful in hearing how well you did on the copaxone. I know if I stick with it the shots will become easier to bear and I am so happy that I dont experience the flulike side effects like I did on the avonex. Let me know how the rebiff goes. Karen

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  4. Taking Copaxone
    Corrina
    Thursday, July 23, 2009 at 02:21 PM

    Yes MS does suck! But what can we do? About the copaxone injections hopefully you'll get used to them. The only advice that I can give is to apply an ice pack on the injection site before injecting an ice pack seems to numb the area for a short period of time. The only problem that I have is the itching I experience after an injection. I only say "DO NOT QUIT." If it really bothers you then ask advice from your nuero. I say do not quit because if you are not disabled then your disability may come soon after. I am disabled & cannot walk, believe me "it is not fun."

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    karen
    Friday, July 24, 2009 at 02:21 PM

    Thanks for your advice. I tried the ice pack and it did help some. It seems to get better each time I give the shot so I am hopeful. I know you are right about not stopping. I was tempted to but I know that isnt the right thing to do. I am so sorry to hear that you are now disabled. That must be hard to deal with. I know I need to be thankful that my MS was found early and that there are treatment options available for me. I wish you the best.

    Karen

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    snowflake67
    Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 07:48 PM

    I'm glad the ice pack helped. I too was tempted to stop the process of injections altogether. In fact I did for about a week & my symptoms seemed to get worse. So Iwent baqcki to my injections. "There are other options if your neuro. says it's okay." But only if he/she says you are able to. I'll ask my friend what he's on & get backto you on that.

     

    Corrina

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  5. Copaxone
    merryanne
    Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 05:22 PM

    Karen...

     

    I can relate to this one, completely.  When I was diagnosed with M.S. in 11/08 at 58 years of age, my neuro didn't explain any of the MS treatment options.  He just started me on Copaxone.  Everyone kept saying to hang in there.  That the pain would lessen in a few months, as well as the welts, and stinging.  Well, all I have to say is that they were not living in my body, and after nine months of absolute misery every night, I got a 2nd opinion from a neuro and his MS nurse.  He went into detail about the meds, and asked me about life style, what I thought I could and could not tolerate.  Well, of course, no med treatment for MS is going to be perfect, but last night I started my first dose of Betaferon.  The mixing is a little intimidating, but I have two friends who are on it and say that you get use to doing it. And the Beta nurse let me practice many times. The first shot was in my abdomen...I kept waiting for the welt, the stinging, the redness.....it never came!  Of course, yesterday was only day one of the therapy, but if the other sites do as well as this one, I will be very happy. Also, my neuro starts with a decreased dose, so I won't have a full dose of the med until six weeks and my body has time to acclimate.  I don't like the autoinjects, so I will have to have help from my husband on places I can't reach....but I'm rather determined to be able to learn to use this auto inject so I can be in control of my meds (or if he is out of town on business). Every other day instead of daily injections was one of the criteria that I used to  change therapies.  I'm not advising you to do this, but I can relate.  I'll get back to you after a month or so and see where I am with the new meds. In the meantime, call the Copaxone 800 number for nurse and pharmacy support.  I certainly called them enough and they were always helpful, suggested ways to make the injections more comfortable, and what to ask my doc, and didn't make me feel like I was asking "stupid" questions.  I truly hope that it gets better for you.

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    karen
    Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 05:29 PM

    Thanks for the advice. The injections have been getting a little easier and less painful. Though I still get welts sometimes I am hanging in there for now. But it sure is nice to know there are other options if I cant handle this anymore. I will call the nurses also and see what advice they have for me too. Thanks so much and I wish you lots of luck with your new meds. Let me know how you do.Laughing

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    karen
    Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 05:29 PM

    Thanks for the advice. The injections have been getting a little easier and less painful. Though I still get welts sometimes I am hanging in there for now. But it sure is nice to know there are other options if I cant handle this anymore. I will call the nurses also and see what advice they have for me too. Thanks so much and I wish you lots of luck with your new meds. Let me know how you do.Laughing

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  6. copaxone injections
    cheryl
    Friday, July 31, 2009 at 11:44 PM

    Hi, I was diagnosed with ms June 5th of this year and started the copaxone 2 weeks after that. Your right about the injections burning etc. But I have found the most painful ones for me have been the arm ones...And I am bruising from the leg ones. I have had some soreness over a few days at the injections sites off and on but yes, the burning can be intense off and on. I have tried using the heat pack before and after-no change. I have had the best results with using the ice pack as soon as I am done injecting. I don't wait for the burn to start. It seems to lessen the burning for me when I do that right away. I was originally told I had the rrms type but that was changed yesterday after seeing another neuro Dr for a followup appt. They feel I have had this for 12 + years and have the progressive MS type, and looking back and symptom wise I agree. Your right,, MS does suck....but I am going to keep taking the shots though because while I was told they won't stop my disease, they might help to slow the damage down. I wish you all the best.....take care.

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    karen
    Saturday, August 01, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Im sorry to hear about your recent diagnosis. But glad youve chose a medicine to help the process, even though it is rough to take everyday. Your right the arm hurts pretty bad. They hurt alot in my legs too though and usually I get a welt when I inject there. I used to not mind doing it in my stomach till I did it last night and I had so much pain afterwards. You are right though if you put ice on it right after it really helps! Sometimes I get scared thinking I just dont think I can do this everyday for ever. But I know its the best thing I can do. I wish you all the best. Keep in touch.

    Karen

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