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MS meds
maggieames
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 06:17 PMre: MS meds
Merely Me
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 07:01 PMOh my! Did your doctor attribute the Avonex to your teeth problems? I am sorry that happened to you. I know a lot of folk are probably interested in hearing about Tsyabri. If you would ever want to write a share post about your experience with this drug I am sure a lot of people would want to read about it.
Thank you so much for your comment.
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Taking Modifying Drugs
Larry
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 09:51 PMOne thing that I had wondered in considering drugs were if I started it early on would I be able to function normally longer than if I had waited until my situation became far worse.
I wondered if I held out on taking drugs would I end up more disabled than if I had used drugs to fight the progression from the onset.
I think this is something all should try to determine in making this decision.
This is a good topic series!
re: Taking Modifying Drugs
Maris B. Mohr
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 01:51 AMBy the time I was dx I had been suffering sx for at least 20 years. During that time I had only done treatments of oriental systems that worked on the sx. I never even went to a regular MD.
When something went wrong in my rt eye and I went through about a year of severe anxiety I decided to check medically. The final dx took about a year
, but was definite MS.At that point I received the course of Solumedrol that most people get and my neuro (who already knew that I would do it) told me to do some research on the net and learn about treatments. I did and after a few more examinations he suggested I begin treatment with Copaxone.
Luckily here in Israel the med plans cover the whole cost, so I started on it. In the meantime I continued studying. Within less than 2 years I told him that I felt that my conditon was worsening so he suggested Betaferon. I've been taking that ever since 2001.
I do believe the Betaferon has slowed neurological progression, but not the progression of clinical sx. I sometimes get sick of having to think about injecting and that I have to schlepp my equipment with me when I travel over night and when I'm in terrible pain and can hardly walk I think that the shots are a waste of time. Then I consider how much worse my situation might be without them. I don't think anyone knows.
Why take a chance? I guess my neuro and I agree about that.
Wishes for sx-free and pain-free days.
Peace & Serenity,
Maris in Israel
re: re: Taking Modifying Drugs
Merely Me
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 02:11 PMHi Maris
You make some good points and observations. From what I know of the drugs...they don't do anything about the symptoms you have now. But rather, they hopefully will slow the progression of the disease. Have your MRI's shown this to be true?
I am glad we are having this candid and honest discussion. I had wanted to get multiple perspectives on this issue so I do thank you for sharing your story here.
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Maris B. Mohr
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 01:46 AMHi again Me,
My last 2 MRIs have shown that my brain mass is stable meaning that there is no brain atrophy. That's what my neuro is most concerned with. He also said a month ago that my EDSS hasn't changed. I don't know how he judges that by seeing me once in 4-6 months walking the 3 feet back and forth in his office. I FEEL the difference every day.
So be it. The point is being optimistic and positive about life in general. Then the glitches become less overpowering.
Feel good and have a beautiful day.
Maris
re: Taking Modifying Drugs
Merely Me
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 02:06 PMLarry these are really good questions. I don't think anyone is going to know the answer unfortunately as all nobody can predict what will happen for each individual who has MS.
I am going to be writing some follow up articles about the pros and cons of either choice...to wait or to take the meds and give you the research and information that I found.
Stay tuned!
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No CRAB drugs
Julie
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 11:00 AMMy case is similar to scenario #1 and I immediately went on Copaxone. After nearly 3 years on that drug, I just felt worse and worse -- my body was sore from the daily shots and I can only describe that I felt "toxic." I felt worse from the cure than from the disease so I stopped taking that medication. My MRIs since my diagnosis haven't shown much progression, but my last set of MRIs were two years ago, about a year after I stopped taking the Copaxone. So it's possible being on that medication deserves the credit. If my next MRIs show increased activity, I'm going to need to consider taking another one of those drugs. I have had increased symptoms in the last couple of years.
My dr has urged me to go on Avonex, which she believes will give me fewer side effects. I have to admit that I'm very fearful of that bigger needle, and am not sure who will be willing to help me with the shots. I once mentioned to my dr that I'd be willing to try Rebif but she sort of brushed that off. Any ideas why?
One last comment: I felt so many side effects on the daily shots that I was very close to losing my job and my quality of life was suffering. Even though I have an increase of MS symptoms, I still feel better on a daily basis than I did with the drugs. I feel good about my decision. I take medication for symptoms and have gone on solumedrol a few times to knock back exacerbations.
I'm very interested in reading other responses to your post.
re: No CRAB drugs
Merely Me
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 02:16 PMHi Julie
This is such a complex issue and there are no right or wrong answers. You hear so much about the benefits of taking these drugs and there is research to show that there are benefits yet....the other side needs to be expressed too that taking these meds are not without risks and/or the negatives.
I am going to be presenting the two sides to this issue in my future posts.
I am so glad people are being honest about their experiences so that we can achieve a more balanced view of things.
Thank you so much for your comment.
re: re:To drug or not to drug
momdukes
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 04:56 PMWell I take Beta and have since 04. Now do I feel any difference no, I guess that is what I was look for. But on my last MRI no new Leisons. So I guess that was good. Yes I still get the bruising somettimes, but if I did not get it from the shots, I would have them from falling. Six one way half a dozen the other. I guess if if slows the monster down, I should be thankful! I am just waiting for that magic pill. I guess I will continue to take the Beta shots, I was seriously thinking about stoping all medications, but if it helps just a little I guess I will continue. My only regret with ms is that it took away my ability to walk, I can deal with the fatique, but my walking bothers me the most. But our day will come, our pill will be invented one day, our illness will one day be a thing of the past. So until then I guess I will continue to shoot up with Beta
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Merely Me
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 04:10 PMWell...the no new lesions is a really good thing! This decision is so hard for us but if you feel something is working then...it does make you think to keep going with it.
I am hoping for the magic pill too. Maybe in our lifetime? Is this so much to ask? :>)
Nice to see you Momdukes and thank you for sharing your experience with us.
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karen
Friday, March 13, 2009 at 09:55 PMI am in the process of getting started on the weekly Avonex shots. I am so nervous, but am praying that the side effects that ive read about will take it easy on me. I have been told by my MS specialist that I should start the shots soon to prevent my MS from being disabling. He was very optimistic about Avonex and the hope that it will prevent flare ups and more lesions. He also said the Avonex should "shrink" my existing lesions. Im fortunate because my MS was diagnose early on! I would appreciate any feedback from those taking Avonex. Thanks
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to take or not take meds
Nadja Tizer
Sunday, March 15, 2009 at 05:56 PM -
To med or not to med, that is the question
kelldey
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 at 05:06 PMWhen I was dx in May, my neuro suggested Copaxone. I readily agreed, as my mom has been on that drug for eight years and has not had an exacerbation.
My rationale is that since my MS is possibly somehow genetically linked to my mother's, my reaction to Copaxone would probably be similar. After six months, I have no new lesions and no active lesions, which is an improvement.
Despite my personal cost for Copaxone rising in the new year, I continue to take it faithfully. It is my liquid gold!
Peace,
Kelley
re: To med or not to med, that is the question
Merely Me
Thursday, March 19, 2009 at 07:36 PMThis is really good to hear Kelley!
I am always happy to hear about good outcomes. Was wondering if you wanted to write a sharepost about your experience in taking Copaxone. I am sure a lot of our readers would be very interested in hearing what it is like.
Thank you so much for contributing to our discussion!
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To take the drugs or not...
Catoda
Thursday, March 26, 2009 at 11:22 PMAs I read each of your comments, I realize this truly is a personal decision and a respected one. For me, my personal experience since being dx, it is not an option. I will take and continue to take drug. I started with Avonex and MRI 6 lesions, nine months and several attachs later, repeat MRI now revealed 35 lesions, including some in the spine. I now knew what it meant to be living with an unpredictable disease. I was wheelchair bound, had to leave my job, life was not looking very bring. Started Rebif in 02. Had PT daily, working hard to regain my muscle mass and walk again. Slowly but surely, I was successful. My MRI's since starting Rebif (6 of them) revealed no new lesions, not one, priceless for me. I was on a drug that my body was responding to and yes, stopping my relapses, putting my MS in its place as we work towards a cure. It's coming!!! Lots of studies ongoing as we speak!!! I strongly believe to get on a drug, something is much better than nothing! Why wait? I would never want anyone to go through what I have. I'm partial to high dose, high frequency (Rebif, Betaseron) which will keep a steady amount of the drug in your system, protection. Challenge yourself to consider. Challenge yourself to be the very best you can be and go for it!
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I first took Avonex. I didn't want to. I told my neuro that if he couldn't promise me it would help me, I didn't want it. Eventually I took it and I was sorry. I lost all my teeth to that drug. They wore off from the top down. I had to have all my roots pulled. I shiver everytime I think of that. Now that I'll be 60 years of age in November, I'm on tysabri. It doesn't help me, but I think it keeps it at bay. I'm there for three hours and as any of you know who are on this drug, they are very careful with you, checking your vitals every hour or so.