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Saturday, June 13, 2009 Amos, Community Member, asks

Q: Can MS cause autism like symptoms?

I'm glad to have come across this article (Cognitive Problems in Multiple Sclerosis Part II). It mentions what appears to be secret amongst the MS community. Maybe people just dont want to face it in public! For me its a different storey. For a whle now I have had increased self awareness but also seemingly descreased awareness of of whats going on around me or just reducing external objects to - just "things". My ex thought I displayed symptoms of Aspergers/mild autism before diagnosis. Fluidity of daily life was reduced to just core, focussed framework of tasks. When facing divorce, in tehe face of great uncertainty and distress, I could only concentrate on keeping the core framework of tasks a priority. Communicating my ideas of reaction were not there. My strategy of thinking was for the very long term stability rather than short term day-to-day survival. it almost seems as though I wanted fight not fly! It might seem normal reading this but I do seem to be missing something that I cant define and do seem to be observing myself very in depth! I would like to see more people present their thinking problems more openly so that poeple in the wider community can understand. I am a changed person in some ways but the essence of myself still remains intact. I hope this text spawns some more public debate regarding the "hidden" symptoms. I would be interested wether views of readers think I'm describing a pyscological problem or the effects of physical damageof the bain. Can MS cause Asperger/autism like symptoms?

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Lisa Emrich, Health Guide
6/16/09 3:05pm

Hi Amos,

 

You may want to write a note to one of our experts here at MS Central.  She has a tremendous depth of experience with the Autism Spectrum.  She does by the name "Merely Me" is click here for her profile.  She may have some insight into this topic that the rest of us do not.

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New view, Community Member
6/ 2/12 4:49am
I had my first attack 23 months ago, and I see things in a new way. When I was 13 and in the eight grade I was diagnosed with dyslexia. I was given a series of tests and was told the following. My iq was 142 , my comprehension was equivalent to a junior in college . My math skills however were that of a4th grader. Spelling and math have all ways been poor, but my comprehension and processing skills were quite advanced. I was a theater major and a one point was able to perform and memorize 3 plays at once. I have made a career as a forecaster , as buyer or an editor. I believe that came from my ability to forecast human behavior. I am posting this because I have noticed a shift in the way I think and am looking for answers. I know this sounds crazy but while my memory has taken a slight hit, my ability to forecast seems to have increased. I never knew how I did it but I just knew what was next. From trends to global affairs to people's behavior I just saw it as a talent no different then a painter or a musician . Here where I believe there is a change but am afraid to share it. I believe what ever caused the dyslexia is compensating and managing the cognitive issues that traditionally ms causes. Even more outlandish I'm beginning to see the system in my mind that has lead to my forecasting abilities . Now I'm not saying I can see into the future or anything like that but I am beginning to see ( not literally ) the patterns or order to how I have been able to forecast . While hard to verbalize I see the really big picture the steps the patterns to that lead to the smaller picture I started with. I know this sounds crazy , but the patterns of all things around me are becoming clearer. The best analogy I can think of is being able to predict a butterfly effect. With that being said I believe in the human effect , and so nothing is certain. As people''s perspective's are all ways evolving effecting their behavior creating a variable that will all ways be a wild card. I still struggle with math and spelling and I don't think I'm Einstein or anything but I feel like some of the effects that are created by autism as I understand and it are happening to me. I am drawn to the fibanci code, not actual math but the thinking behind it. I am not even sure if there is a question here but rather a release , and if im lucky someone may have a theory of their own. One last thing I went from losing 70 percent of the function in half my body to a 99 percent recovery in 60 days . I do take monthly medication and It working better then expected. I think my brain is on some level is fighting the ms . In conclusion I'm either loosing my mind or am using parts I have before. Reply
Lisa Emrich, Health Guide
6/11/12 9:01pm

Hi New View,

 

Sounds like you are experiencing some amazing things.  Not sure there are any good explanations but I thank you for sharing your experience.

 

Lisa

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cresha214, Community Member
6/15/09 9:33am

I have blank out; where i just blank out for a split second and forget where I am. If someone wakes me up in the middle of the night, I have no clue who they are. Its like everything is a blurr. I am sitting at my desk doing work; all of sudden i for get what i am doing. I can be driving; but i dont always remember passing certain landmarks. Sometimes i just feel out of place.

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thelambsink, Community Member
6/30/10 9:20pm

HI MY NAME IS DANIEL,NOT ONLY DO I BLANK OUT BUT ONE MAIN PROBLEM I HAVE BEEN HAVING LATELY IS SOMEONE TALKING TO ME AND I DO NOT SEEM TO CATCH WHAT THEY JUST SAID OR EVEN SEARCHING FOR FOR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING AND BRIEFLY FORGETTING WHAT  AM LOOKING FOR. I WAS GOING DOWN A ROAD I HAD BEEN DRIVING FOR YEARS AND FOR A FEW MOMENTS I FORGOT WHERE I WAS OR WHERE I WAS GOING. I DO NOT YET KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT MS MAYBE IT IS JUST WHERE THE LESIONS ARE LOCATED IN THE BRAIN I HAVE OVER SIXTY.I HOPE THIS MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS BUT I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PROBLEM I CAN NOT SEEM TO STOP STUDYING.

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pooneh, Community Member
3/ 7/10 8:20am

Yes I think it can, at least in the case of me! that's why I searched about this subject! I was a very sociable person before, but 7 years ago was diagnosed by MS, and every year I lose some of my abilities to make and keep relationships, to feel people and express my feelings, I don't learn addresses anymore...I don't notice what's happening arround me,....I am a PhD researcher, and really worried to damage my future with these symptoms!

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Amos, Community Member
3/ 7/10 1:48pm

Thanks Pooneh, 

Yes I can relate to what you are saying. Well I suppose what I was trying to touch upon was "cognitive difficulty".  I think I just underestimated what this term really meant outside the context of common public facing "MS" literature available on the internet. I've realised, intuitively, that this term really is more far reaching than I first thought.  As I have come to learn more and more about it and how MS manifests itself in me, I find it more important that I keep to routines and schedules because that's what I trust.  Even when I might be in the "Twilight zone", my routine enables me to maintain some confidence.  Boy - I just wish I didn't have to think about it all the time cos I have so much else to think about too!

Just to be distracting : What are you researching?  

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pooneh, Community Member
3/11/10 9:51am

You are wellcome:) I research on polymers (chemical engineering).

Next year is my defence, if such problems in hearing, speaking, underestanding become worst till that time, then probaly the referees would fail meLaughing

 

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pooneh, Community Member
3/11/10 9:52am

You are wellcome:) I research on polymers (chemical engineering).

Next year is my defence, if such problems in hearing, speaking, underestanding become worst till that time, then probaly the referees would fail meLaughing

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msflare07, Community Member
9/29/10 11:47pm

Hello,

I am undergoing Bowen Therapy (my 4th month) and my shyness and not being able to go out of the house is gone.  However, as this therapy works

on the traumas connected to the brain and the parasympathic nervous system, the trauma release symptoms are extremely difficult as the body needs to have neuro pathways to detox. I have not been diagnosed for M.S.

just Fibro/Chronic Fatigue. My spine is so jacked up and stiff and I have all of the symptoms of M.S. I don't feel like talking to my doctor about this because it wouldn't change my treatment. Drugs are too constipating and I am on an anti-seizure med only. Other meds worsen my condition. Thanks

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pooneh, Community Member
11/ 1/10 6:50pm

bowen therapy! that sounds interesting, I searched about it, and it is written that Bowen therapy can powerfully influence the body's neuro-muscular physiology in many and complex ways. So it should be good for MS too! thanks for the info!

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melody, Community Member
5/ 1/11 2:59pm

wow.  i have been feeling the same way for a couple of years now.  i joke that i have no filter anymore, but it's true.  i have to seriously consider the things that i say when i'm in public, because if i just speak i say inappropriate things.  inappropriate for me, at least.  i used to be such a social person, and now i avoid contact with people i know.  i have become hypersensitive to light and noise.  my skin has become so sensitive to touch that i just shudder sometimes when i'm touched by a person or certain textures.  I'm going to research Bowen therapy and read the article you mentioned.

Has anyone here tried a GFCF diet? That was recommended when my son was being tested for ASD.

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B, Community Member
4/17/12 8:20pm

Melody you sound like me in this part. I found a video that kind of showed my husband what my world looks like lately. It was made by an autistic man. It showed you his perspective on the world when he goes out. It was right on the mark.  Out of curiosity, more lesions in the periventricular white matter might be doing this to us. They are natural lesions in people with age and further conditions such as alzheimers.

 

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By Amos, Community Member— Last Modified: 11/17/12, First Published: 06/13/09