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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 Mike, Community Member, asks

Q: OA of Hip Joint, Cartilage Regeneration, Stem Cells

I am 47 with beginning OA of left hip joint. Does any one know about any research being done; in US or abroad; regarding cartilage regeneration? Can stem cell therapy grow partially worn out cartilage?

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samson, Community Member
2/10/10 1:00am

QMR Therapy is the answer for you.

QMR(Quantum Magnetic Resonance) is the therapy used to regenerate the cartilage.

This Therapy have been successfully used to treat more than 2000 cases of OA from past 3 years.

Clinical trails were held in the year 2004.

This therapy is totally painless , non invasive and has no side effects.It is a cheap alternative to knee replacement.......

For more info please visit  www.sbfhealthcare.com or send a query to info@sbfhealthcare.com

 

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Del, Community Member
3/24/09 6:51pm

I am in the same boat with the exception that I am 45.   The only thing i have been able to find is that this procedure (cartilage regeneration) is that is currently being done for dogs with OA of the hips.  I am currently using the prescription "Limbrel" combined with glucosamine and fish oil in hope of avoiding total hip replacement/resurfacing until someone develops a stem cell protocal.  It has been about two months and I have had improved range of motion and decreased pain.

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Sam, Community Member
1/ 4/10 9:30am

I am a 40 year old in the same category as you guys.  I am on Fish oil aswell as Natures Own Joint enhancement tablet.  I have found this combination to be working quite well with the range and movement, although I do experience some discomfort.  I have been advised and strongly recommended to undergo the total hip replacement for about 6 years.  I have avoided this in hope of a better solution.  After reading the possibility of the stem cell cartilage regeneration technique, I am willing to perserver with the pain and limitations in hope that this would be a more successful result.

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Meb, Community Member
1/ 8/10 10:03am

Yes, I am a 49 year old floating the same boat after having arthoscopy for a torn labrum due to hip dysplasia.  I too, am trying to avoid total hip in future and just want to walk greater distances without pain!  Has anyone had steroid injections?  I have had some relief with sam-e but had to stop due to extreme stomach pain.  Guess I will go back to fish oil, but had not noticed any difference except more acne!  I am hoping for MSC cartilage regeneration.

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JamesUK, Community Member
1/ 9/10 6:44am

Hi, I'm 32 and have OA in both hip joints, mainly the left and had steroid injections in both hips 5 days ago now.

 

Currently I have only noticed a minimal improvement (if any) in my left hip, although I think my expectations were too great due to the doctor saying i would be back playing football within a few days.

 

I'm not sure if its to early to tell if the steroid injections have fully worked, fingers crossed things improve some more over the next few days.

 

Although I think I have now come to realise that I will never play football again and I just have to do what is best to reduce the pain and am also interested in cartilage regeneration.

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Meb, Community Member
1/ 9/10 11:56am

I have my fingers crossed for you!  Must be so hard to think about giving up something you love so much at a young age.  May I ask if football was the cause of OA in the hips?  Because now I look back at my youthful patterns and realize because of my dysplasia, tennis, running, and horseback riding were probably the worse thing I could have done...but nobody knew!  Let's hope for MSC regeneration like you said...if we can hold on!  Thanks for responding.

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siya, Community Member
9/19/11 2:28am

My father was treated with sequentially programmed magnetic fields for arthritis and it has worked really well for him. You could give it a try!

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T-REX, Community Member
12/12/12 1:41pm

I am also in the same situation as you. I also played football and had hopes of going to the NFL, but the OA in my right hip has ruined my chances. Now at age 38 I am desperately hoping and praying for a medical breakthrough; which I believe is about to happen in a matter of time. Of course doctor's mention total hip replacement to us "hippees" but it's because of the routine they have become accustomed to. I would encourage you to continue to continue to do your own research and continue to be an advocate own your behalf. There is an answer out there. I'm not only holding on to hope for myself, but to others who are facing this condition as well. 

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G'Ma, Community Member
11/12/10 10:36am

I have had steroid injections and although the first one eliminated pain for a year, I would not recommend it.  I have learned that it causes cartiladge to disappear--exactly what we don't need.  There were other side effects, too.Frown

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G'Ma, Community Member
12/ 5/10 9:00pm

I have had 3 cortisone injections and the first one worked well and lasted for a year.  The next two lasted for a couple of months each.  But the side effects are awful:  thin skin, and the cartiledge between the ball and socket was destroyed.  I am scheduled for an anterior mimimumly invasive new hip next week. 

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hotelescazu.webs.com, Community Member
9/ 3/12 8:03pm

hi..  emailing from costa rica ex pat  with a small www.hotelescazu.webs.com

 

who is doing your operation? how much?/ i have  no insurance, but have some cash/there is DR MURPHY in boston.. i hear he might be the best around $30k please get back hotelescazu@aol.com

 

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G'Ma, Community Member
9/ 3/12 8:20pm

The excellent orthopedic doctor who used minimally invasive surgery to replace my hip is Dr. Edward Stolarski in Sarasota, FL.  Please check him out at www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZt3VIXtMdI .  He does hundreds of these operations every year so is tops in the field.  I had insurance, luckily, so I don't know about his and/or the hospital charges without insurance.  He would be happy to discuss his fees with you as he is an upright type of physician and tells it like it is.  Please ask me any more questions.  My new hip is the best joint in my body now!!

 

 

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nancy, Community Member
6/13/11 4:08pm

I had steriod injection in my left hip joint.  It helped about 3-4 months, but am getting back to limping, walking with a cane and pain.  I am still searching every day for stem cell regneration.  There is a clinic in Broomfield Colorado...Keep me posted on your progress.

Nancy

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Eddy, Community Member
11/18/11 7:16am

What is the name and address of the clinic

 

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george, Community Member
3/30/12 12:19pm

Have you been treated with yr own stem cells for your hip cartilage wear ?

and what were the results. ??

george

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sonoftheprofessor, Community Member
2/13/12 6:24pm

I've been looking up stuff.  It is said to use SAMe without mannitol in it-like vitamin shoppe brand-to avoid the stomach problems.

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jamesA, Community Member
6/20/14 1:12am

hey! i read your artical about your hip problem. I notice you mention something about having stomach problems. If you would be so kind, would you email me and talk about the kind of problems you were having. The reason i want to know is because i too have OA of the hip (left) i've had this problem for years, like others hoping there will be something better down the line. Really don't want to have the hip replacement. I am taking steroid injections. I've also been having severe stomach issues for years. Don't know if there is any correlation between the two. but my stomach doctor cannot  fine anything wrong with my stomach. Please get back with me and let me know ok?

 

Thank You,

James Alston

jlajla45@att.net     "IMPORTANT"

704-877-5645

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Paul, Community Member
5/24/10 10:58pm

I have had hip pain for about six years. I am 41 years old.I have tried everything on the market to lubricate the hip joints nothing last for long. 

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John Price, Community Member
7/31/10 11:43pm

I am 68 with a 2 yr history of OA of the hips .The first orthopod took one look at the x rays and wanted to do immediate HR. The 2nd orthopod tried glucosamine 1500mg/day, Piascledine 300 mgms per day and an antiimflamatory on the days I exercise (6 days a week). Within 6 weeks I was back playing tennis and although still limping a bit, able to say that I was not even interested in surgery. Piascledene is avalable at WallMart,is an extract of soy and avacado and definitely worked for me (as well as 2 of my friends). The only negative problem with this drug for me is that it is made by the nefarious FRENCH who I despise and yet here I am recommending one of there products. Wonders will never cease.

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Marie, Community Member
8/ 3/10 4:05am

I have to assume you were not on a cane...was yours bad enough to prevent you driving or manuevering steps?

Marie

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Mike, Community Member
1/ 3/11 8:05pm

John,

 

I am trying to find - Piascledine 300 mg - with out much success.

Asked the Pharmacists at Walmart and Kroger.  Neither had heard of

it. 

Is this a prescription medication or OTC ?

 

Thanks.

 

Mike

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Josephine Smith, Community Member
9/ 8/11 8:10pm

I am 76 and have been hobblingfor quite a few years.  At present am going to an osteopath and been doing exercises for a couple of months. It is encouraging to read what you have said. I am an incurable optimist and a realist. I feel the intelligence of this marvellous mechanism we have charge of wants to be well if we can only not get in the way of that process.  Glucosamine is no good for vegetarians and seeing what you lot have said is only temporarily helpful - like so many other things it seems.

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Miler M, Community Member
2/27/12 1:56pm

Hi

Interested by your French cure, any noticeable improvement, since your last communication. Is your present discomfort making you interested in stem cells. Which magic French drug are you using ?

 

Thanks.  M.Miler

relimoshe@gmail.com

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Cerise, Community Member
5/13/13 12:26pm

I this Piascledine that you take is it a perscription drug or do you buy it in the vitiman section?

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Cerise, Community Member
5/13/13 12:31pm

I just read your post that you take Piaciedene 300 mgms per day and you get it at Walmart. Is this a perscription drug or do you buy it in the vitiman section & how much is it?

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Scuromondo, Community Member
5/18/09 8:35am

One promising treatment (though not a cure of the type you mentioned) is the use of arthroscopic surgery to treat torn cartilege, bone spurs, and even some cases of arthritis in the hip. This surgery is not yet very widespread. Howeever, where I live (Washington DC) there are a few orthapedic surgeons who are able to do it.  No surgery can be taken lightly. But, if given the choice of having arthoscopic surgery (where you may be out of the hospital the same day and back on your feet in a few days) or hip replacement surgery (where the hospital stay is longer and the recovery time is months or longer) I would defintely choose arthroscopic.

 

 

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lp, Community Member
9/ 1/09 11:43pm

Can you possibly give me contact info for any of these orthopedic surgeons who are able to do this type of arthoscopic surgery?

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Scuromondo, Community Member
9/ 2/09 7:39am

Shady Grove Orthopedic Associates

19735 Germantown Road

Suite 120

Germantown, MD  20874

http://www.orthopedics-md.com/

 

My doctor is Dr. Bender. He does not do arthroscopic hip surgery. However, at least one of the other members of his practice does.

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missouri, Community Member
11/20/09 9:38am

I (48 year old female) am also in the same boat and willing to participate in a study.  The only thing I have seen is a study I found on ClinicalTrials.gov but it is being performed in Cairo!  Where are the US studies being performed????  I read an article on an airplane magazine a couple of years ago that cited a study in the US, I did not save the article but it was performed on a young 40 + female and it was very successful...perhaps if memory serves me correct in was performed in Texas...does this ring a bell to anyone?

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samson, Community Member
2/10/10 2:08am

QMR Stands for Quantum Magnetic Radiation sorry for the mistake

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MsB, Community Member
2/21/10 2:41pm

You may want to read up on Platlet Rich Plasma (PRP) Therapy.  It is an injection procedure where your own blood is drawn, placed in a chamber to remove red blood cells, and then injected back to the problem area.  

 

The growth factors (including stem cells) are supposed to help with the pain after a few times, and over time help regenerate cartilage as long as there is cartilage left in that area to begin with.   It is begin performed at Dr. Magaziner's office in New Brunswick, NJ.   I have just signed up for it myself, but mine might be more far gone so we are not sure what the outcome will be yet.  Bone on bone won't regenerate for there is nothing there which makes sense. 

 

Proliferation Therapy is also being done, and they tell be that just by having those growth factors injected, it also stimulates cartilage regeneration.

 

Both procedures, regardless of cartilage loss, will help with the pain after 5 to 7 monthly visits.   And then the maintenance will last up to a year.

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vjada, Community Member
5/ 4/10 5:50am

 

I had heard about PRPtherapy on the TV show the Doctors.

I am upset to think that this will not work if the cartiledge is gone.

I have Osteoarthritis in both hips. I was diagnost two years ago and only recently went back to see my Orthopedic doctor.  Unfortuneatley my right hip is now bone on bone.

I am really depressed because doctors don't tell you about these research trials. I have always been proactive when it comes to my health but when you don't even know what to ask your doctor about ...you miss out on the possibility of an option to hip replacement surgery.

What my doctor told me was that he has done surgery on patients who have not had hips as bad as mine.  Although he does stress that he will not tell me I should because it is my decision.  That's fine ... I get it.

Right now my most difficult thing is that my leg lengths are off....by maybe a half inch.  I put an insert in my shoe ...it helps some.  As far as pain...I'm doing ok.....the cold months are tough. I have no resting pain.  I have learned to not overdo it.  I do get out and about.  I have always been a shaker and a mover.

I still manage to move about pretty good ...try hard to overcome the slilght limp. I try hard to keep a positive attitude....it is of course a fine line with depression lurking in the wings as anyone knows with this condition. 

I eat an anti inflammatory diet rich in natural foods ....lots of fruits and veggies.

I refuse to take Mobic that he suggested....don't want to screw my stomach up.

If I don't have pain....I don't take anythng. 

Do take daily supplements for bone and joint health that include natural herbal anti inflammatories.

I get tired of people commenting that you should have joint replacement surgery.

Nothing is without risks.....considering that in a life time a second replacement would be necesseary because HR only last for ten or so years....the integrity of the bone likely won't receive a second  replacement as good as say the first.

I am making note of the Proliferation Therapy that you mentioned.

I will do some research and bring the information to my doctor the next time I see him.

I am in Alabama but originally from NJ ...not surprised to see alternative therapies being done up there.

Babbling along here....anyway ....thank you for the good information.

Oh boy...just needed to vent a little.  thank you also to anyone else who is

out there.

good luck to all. :-)

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Claudia, Community Member
5/ 6/10 10:24am

Hi there, how are you? When I was reading your comments, it was like reading my own story. I have a severe OA in my left hip with no cartilage left and at least 1 inch leg difference due to deformation. It is hard for me to walk around like that, it hurts my back and I am limping terribly. Also tired of people commenting on my limping or suggesting hip replacement. I am only 34 and feel embarassed to walk around with the cane...Thinking of all the risks of a total hip replacement makes me nauseated. I am also taking pain killers only when absolutely necessary but am trying all sorts of supplements. Anyway, you are concerned about new hip lasting only 10 years, maybe you can ask about ceramic hips that young patients get, they are supposed to last 25-30 years. I don't know if you can get it or pay for it if in the fututre you decide for a THR, but I gess you could, since you live in US where you are paying for your surgeries.

Do you have any information regarding stem cell transplants or Proloferation Therapy?

Thanks. 

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vjada, Community Member
5/12/10 5:24pm

Dr Kayle in North New Jersey does this PRP therapy.  I am in Alabama....I called up there to ask if they knew how I could go about locating a doctor who does it closer to me.  Also one who has done many....that is key also.

I am in the process of searching  to find someone who does this.

I will definately reply when I find any information.

My doctor told me I was denial.....I did not at the time have a reply to that comment but since then I gave it some thought.   When I next see him I will tell him NO I'm not in denial just because I am not signing up to get in line for a HR ...I am being proactive and searching out alternatives first.  I am realistic to know that this PRP may not work for me but darn I want to know that I tried first.

What type of pain meds do you take?

 

Gotta run ....not quite....need to sign off for now.

Keep a sense of humor...it is hard but try.

  

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Ed, Community Member
5/18/10 11:25pm

There is a Dr. in Boca Raton that does the prp and stem cell therapy. I am sure it will come up with  Google search. Don't let "conventional" doctors ever talk you out of seeking out alternative they don't understand.

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DougFromLI, Community Member
5/25/10 5:02pm

Wow, I just read through these posts, and looks like we are all suffering. I am 51, and used to be an avid runner and tennis player. I started getting pains in my thigh and groin (left side) a couple of years ago, and ignored all of the warning signs. Last year, I finally got around to getting X-rayed, and I am pure bone-on-bone in my left hip, and have thin layer of cartilage on my right hip (I don't have any noticeable problems with my right hip). I have slight hypertension, and somewhat scared of going under the knife for a hip replacement, because there are always risks. However, my quality of life is diminishing, as I can no longer walk without a limp, have trouble tying my shoes, and have trouble getting in and out of cars (sound familiar) ? At this point, I am open to any an all solutions, other than total Hip Replacement, although I may be forced into that as a solution. Please post any alternative solutions that you hear about !


Thanks for listening !


DougFromLI

 

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CD, Community Member
10/24/12 11:55pm
Hi Doug, I could have written your letter - including 52 years old - I see it was posted 2 years ago - where have you got to? Reply
Lynn, Community Member
7/11/12 5:06pm

Hi - WHo is the doctor in Boca Raton who does PRP?

 

Thanks,

Lynn

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Lynn, Community Member
7/11/12 5:06pm

Hi - WHo is the doctor in Boca Raton who does PRP?

 

Thanks,

Lynn

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Marie, Community Member
8/ 3/10 4:13am

I am in Alabama also! I am searching for a Dr. that does the PRP treatment also. Like you my Dr. (Rheumatology) told me not to even come back till I was ready for surgery. I have a bad feeling about surgery for this...so if you find out anything please post. I would love to find a Dr. in AL or Tenn. or Atlanta anything like that.

Marie

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vjada, Community Member
8/ 7/10 10:29pm

Hello Marie here in Alabama.  I have a few posts here on this board....in case you haven't read any of them... it will up to date you on me.

 

I found a doctor who does Prolo therapy ...he is in nasville. 

Do a search.....www.prolotherapynashville.com  I thinkl that will get you there.

It is I guess you could say an alternative therapy.

Briefly and you can search for more details on this...

PRP therapy is this...blood is taken from your arm and then put into a centrifuge (sp?) and then injected into the area where the cartilage is and hopefully cartilage will regenerate.  Prothereapy is a series of injections all natual that are injected into ligaments and surrounding tissue at the sight of the bad joint.

The idea here is that ligaments support the joints and when they are damaged and streached they do not keep the joints in allignment and then there is abnormal wear and that is when the wear and tear on the cartilage takes place. These injections contain a dextros that causes the ligaments to tighted and then hopefully give the joints the stability.  These are my words ...just check it out.  

 

You and anyone else on this board that is interested can go to GoProlo.com

it will give by state the doctors who are experienced in  PRP therapy Platlete Rich Plasma thereapy and Prolotherapy.

 

I have osteoarhritis in both hips... I have been bone on bone now for I think about a year.  I don't take any prescriptions drugs at all.  I take Zyflamend by New Chapter it has several anitiflammoatory herbs that are a Cox 2 inhibitor.

Also take CosaminDS, Asu Avocado soy unsapafiables,  Hyaluronic acid.

 

AND I eat lots of fruits and vegetables, (steam all my veggies) nuts, and lugemes ... very clost to what a meditarrainian diest is.  I don't eat fish though I am a lacto ovo vegetarian but  I do eat Omega 3 Organic eggs and very very little of organic cheese slices.

Never never drink soda or any carbonation, no fast food....well only an occasional every two months a bean burrito from Taco bell  or a veggie burger from Burger king.  I have been eating like this for several years and other than my darn hip joints I feel great.  I am 60 and I am a shaker and a mover (with a limp) on most days.  Key is good sleep...if I don't sleep good I am screwed up for the next few days.

Back to the  ProlotherapyNashville.   I plan on going to see Dr Mark Johnson at some point.   I emailed him regarding my condition and he seems to say he would do Prolotherapy first not sure about PRP.

I would prefer to have both.  I will see what his point is when I go there .

Unfortunately my insurance won't cover it ...most don't I am told.  This is not a mainstream treatment.  Although if you live out in California it likely is.

I know athletes have gotten prolotherapy for years.

I will keep you and everyone else posted on what if anything else I learn.

Sorry for any typos.... too tired to spell check.

 

good luck to all
vjada  

 

 

 

 

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Lisa Robinson, Community Member
9/26/10 9:00pm

Hi Marie and all in the same boat...

I am 53 and my L hip stopped me in my tracks @ 50. I am a prof. rider/trainer; very active, and yes, I also believe my riding has contributed; esp. dressage and the leg/hip position it requires. I have actually had 12 very painful prolotherapy injections over a year. DR. Kraucak, Life Family Practice in The Villages, FL. I also have had 3 PRP inj. and tried Steroid inj. Personally I would say no to the Prolo, no to the cortizone, and yes to the PRP. I believe the Prolo has scarred my tendon and ligament attatchments 360 degrees around my hip joint - they are hard, snapping and very painful. On MRI it all lights up as scar/calcification. The PRP was a godsend, with major relief. I also am determined not to have a THR and am waiting for Stem Cell - looking into the Regenexx in Denver. I have recovered quite well from a couple years ago when I could not walk, could not ride. I now can walk relatively comfortable and went back to competing this past winter. For support I use the Univera products Regenicare and Regenifree (glucosamine and tumeric w/protectin - herbal anti-inflamatory. I do not take any pain-killers, aspirin, motrin or anything like that, ever. I have used Canine Adequan for a 7x series - it flushes, detoxes and lubricates the joint - ask your vet. I also recieve regular acupunture, myofacial release, nueral-repatterning (Integrated Manual Therapy), chiropractic, and I swim and strength train. Plus eat only whole, anti-inflamatory food, etc. I get by. I do limp, slightly. I am heartened by all the other folk out there trying the same things, and pushing the docs, beating the bushes, and getting by without giving in. Wouldn't it be nice if we got the ball rolling so others had a beaten path to follow? Thanks, Lisa

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vjada, Community Member
9/28/10 4:39am

Lisa 

Thank you for sharing your experience .

You sure have been through quite a bit.  

 

I have Osteoarthritis in both hip joints.  I have been reading lots about prolotherapy and prp.   Until I read your message I was thinking that prolotherapy might be what I need....now I'm not sure.  The doctor that I have emailed at Prolotherapy Nashville....seems to think I would be a better candidate for prolotherapy.  I have read that several prolotherapy injections equals one PRP.   

I would rather cut to the chase and get PRP.  I am planning on going up to Prolotherapy Nashville to see this Doctor Mark Johnson.   I think for the first visit I will just have a consultation with the doctor and no treatment just an evaluation.  

So I have seen a few doctors here in Huntsville just to see if they are familiar with PRP and prolotherapy. The first doctor was a Orthopaedic doctor he was ready to give me a number to get in line for replacement basically.  One Rhematologist that I saw just shook his head and said no. He said it would do nothing for me. I felt like I was talking to the wall.  Needless to say he is history in my book.  The next Rhematolagist  I saw was understanding of my need to seek out other options...he suggested that I just go for a consultation to talk to the doctor in Nashville and if I decided to go through with this to make sure I go to someone that has done many.  He also said to let him know how it goes.

Yesterday I saw a sports med doctor he said Proloterapy and PRP therapy are just for Tendon injuries and would not be of any help for arthritis.  He too was very understanding of my wanting to seek possible options.

Unfortunately these doctors are so uniformed.  I think some of them want to stick to a sure  thing that is profitable to them.  

I just want PRP!!!  I want to give it a try to see if it works for me...at least I will feel like I did not let myself down.  THR is the last resort....the very last.

 

How did you hear about using Canine Adequan ? I will ask my vet about that.

Thank you again for sharing ....

Best wishes,

VJADA


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Lisa Robinson, Community Member
9/28/10 8:14am

Hi - yes, I was hoping you would read my prolo exp. and skip right to the PRP. I tried to find anyone who has had prolo for hips - it would be nice to be able to talk to actual people who have had the procedure. The theory of tightening the tendons and ligaments to change the wear pattern on the cartilage is good, and they say no side effects, but I beg to differ - I found out the side effects. The research on PRP is only on tendon and ligaments, not cartilage but my doc says that the stem cells will repair all structures in need. It definately gave me alot of relief, and allowed me the strength in my leg and hip to be able to gallop and jump and hold my position totally - like the old days.

I am researching stem cell. My husband is a vet and just got back from a conference on stem cell for horses - we've been doing prp on horses for a while so I had already seen the positive results. I will let you know as I learn more specifics. The clinic in Denver who developed Regenexx stem cell has been shut down by the FDA because they now consider your own stem cells a drug to be regulated. It must be working well enough to threaten the AMA and all the Total Joint Docs...

Canine  or Equine Adequan and Legend have been used by vets and trainers for a couple decades on themselves - works great on the horses, dogs and us. I think Luipold must get paid off by all the other pain med companies to keep a lid on marketing adequan for people - for the life of me I can't figure out the resistance to actual healing, but I wont settle for less.

Hope that helps! Lisa

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george, Community Member
1/14/12 6:27am

hi, read yr info with interest, and see some positive thing's, but one thing I don't understand your stating that -The clinic in Denver who developed Regenexx stem cell has been shut down by the FDA because they now consider your own stem cells a drug to be regulated. - strange because there now 2 x new centre's opened using the same method - see their website - also you confirm that Stemm cells helps with yr horses - so basically there is nothing wrong with it. But that are US regulations, I am Europe - Holland - and also have cartilage wear in the right hip, so anxious looking for other options than a complete hip replacement. In case you have any info where in Europe i can have stemmcell therapy please let me know.

rgds George


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Lucyface, Community Member
4/11/12 11:10pm

Re:Prolothearapy- was successful in completely healing muscle tears in shoulders several years ago but totally ineffective in treating hips. I still had 4 cm of cartlidge 1 1/2 yrs ago and am now bone on bone. Did prolo exacerbate my condition? Don't know. Dr. Ken Knott in Marietta, Ga. does prolothearapy and has written a book "What Your Doctor Doesn't Know Can Hurt You".

 

 

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vjada, Community Member
4/13/12 1:52am

I have wondered about that too but I tend not to think that it  exacerbates osteoarhtritis.  So many factors go into the success of prolotherapy.

On the patients part....good nutrition, no junk food or white sugar, or too many sweet foods (fruits are fine) flour etc. exercise and in some cases HRT supplements are prescribed by the doctor during treatment time and sometimes for life...if levels are below what is normal.

I have opted out on the HRT. 

For the most part feel I have had significant change with prolotherapy and PRP.  I have osteo in the hips and the right one is considered severe.

As far a the doctor that does the prolotherapy....from what I have read one of the factors for unsuccessful results are do to the doctor not doing enough shots to cover the area.

I had treatment for seven months and have not had any since November.

Because I am concerned that prolothereapy may have just slowed down the process....I am seriously thinking of doing bone marrow stem cell prolotherapy.   

I however need to find someone who does it.  I am in Alabama.

 

I found that when I was diagnosed with Osteo in 2008 I have since that time especially this past year... I have done a complete turn around on how I eat. I always considered myself a healthy eater but I there is always room for improvement.  I follow DrWeil.com ...he suggest a Mediteranean diet....anti-inflammatory diet.

I will look into the book you mentioned by Dr Knott.

Thank you and best of luck to you.

vjada

 

 

 

 

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Marie, Community Member
9/28/10 6:55am

Lisa:

Is the Canine Adequan for a 7x series safe for people? Did your Dr. or Health Therapist ok this? I would love to try it. I can not take naything with tumeric a I understand this is a product used in a lot of Indian cooking and is hot. I have an ulcer but do they both Regenicare and Regenifree (both) have turmeric or just one of them?

V:    I still have not found a PRP Dr. so if anyone else including V has suggestions please add! I am in North Alabama and the Rheumatologists that are in Huntsville I am very aware of and I don't recommend them! I know my insurance doesn't cover this and I have heard amounts of $10,000 so if anyone has an idea of prices let me know that also! How did your trip to Nashville go?

Marie

 

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Lisa Robinson, Community Member
9/28/10 8:48am

Yes, my husband researched the studies on safety and Adequan appears very safe even overdosed - it is a synthetic synovial fluid. Neither of us have had any negative affects from it. We do also regularly detox in general for the asssaults of living in the 21st century. I have tried many joint supplements. The Univera products have a great nutritionist at the helm - Stephen Cherniski; they have a Genomics Lab, the largest plant library in the world, and all products have scientific studies. They are all over cellular regeneration, DNA signaling, detox and support, so I end up using a few of their products. The Regenifree has the tumeric and protectin; Regenicare is Chond/Glucosamine/MSM, Aloe and Protectin, a proprietory natural analgesic that in studies has worked better than Vioxx. I have also had great results with Joint Vibrance which has tumeric and lots of targeted ingredients that you can find on line or at some health food stores, and with Wobenzyme - a specific enxyme for joint health. I did not have any relief from Cosequin ASU - the avacado/soy, at the time I used it.

 

Many large hospitals and Orthopedic centers are now offerring PRP - the MD's are catching on and there is enough research to satisfy them, so just start calling DR's and hospitals and rehab centers - it is offerred all over Boston and even in our little NH town. I paid $750 per injection -  I had 3 over a 6 month period. I have seen the same price elsewhere.

Another possibility for Rhuematoid Arthritis is Peptides specific for the condition - look up www.lifefamilypractice.com and get info from Dr. Kraucak - he is a trained Peptide Doc. He performed my PRP - The Villages FL.

Hope that helps!!!

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vjada, Community Member
9/28/10 6:02pm

Lisa

PRP is just not happening in and around north alabama.  My only choice right now is to go to Nashville.  It creates such anxiety in me to know that I will want again have to try to persuade a doctor to do PRP.  Having not met Dr Johnson yet I only know his written words in the email.

I will Just stick to what I want and hope that he will hear me.

I would like to make a copy of your message if that is ok with you.  Instead of me just telling him of what I learn through your experience I could have your actual message.  Let me know if your ok with that.

 

Marie

Have you gone to Prolotherapy Nashville web site?  If you are also in North Alamama that would be the nearest one to you also.

As you can see I have not gone to Nashville yet.  The anxiety over all this isometimes too much for me....but the clock is ticking and if there is a remote chance that PRP can help me I need to get with it.

 

I hate to play this card...but I think it is all about who you are on what kind of treatments are out there. 

The having to fly to a state that does this is not what I want to do.  I hate airplane travel did lots over the years.  Driving to Nashville would work.

I would consider the Doc in Florida that Lisa mentioned but need to check Map quest in the distance.

 

That is it for me now.

Sign  up for water therapy this week.  Need to get my leg strength  back.  I had always been a brisk walker but was so fearful of overdoing it or even being on my feet alot .....didn't want to speed up the cartledge loss.

Yesterday the Sports Doc that I saw encouraged me to work out.  Just stay away from jumping and jerking movement.  All the other doctors played down being on my feet too much. 

Keep moving!

my best to all

V

  

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Lisa Robinson, Community Member
10/ 5/10 2:05pm

Hi Vjada,

fine to use my message if it will help. Yes I encourage you to do the water therapy - you really need to keep strong all the other pieces and parts - it has really kept me going. I do agree that it is who you are - the Chinese Silver Marathon medalist last olympics had DJD in her hip and they regenerated her hip by filling the holes w/stem cell impregnated "mud" and look at how well that worked! I heard the Chinese also bought 20 SCIO Biofeedback machines which heal at the energetic level - I do also use that - a freind of mine who is a nurse offers the service. As well as laser therapy. Alot of our baseball and football players have PRP. The Centeno clinic in Denver is still doing stem cell work on an outpatient basis - they have a court date in 6 mo - they are sueing the FDA to be able to do the work - I called. Good luck - Lisa

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Elaine, Community Member
4/14/11 8:53am

Do you think that possibly the Regenexx in Denver could also cause scar tissue to form?

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Jan, Community Member
4/27/12 10:45am

Marie gives me hope since Im 55 and like my mother, have hip arthritis in both my hips. I am considering PRP therapy since it is offered in my city. Its nice to hear from someone that has done everything they can and can report the results. More people need to do that so that we can judge if something works.

Too many posts about what they want to do and not enough about what they have done that works. Anyone have QMR therapy done?

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Jan, Community Member
4/27/12 10:45am

Marie gives me hope since Im 55 and like my mother, have hip arthritis in both my hips. I am considering PRP therapy since it is offered in my city. Its nice to hear from someone that has done everything they can and can report the results. More people need to do that so that we can judge if something works.

Too many posts about what they want to do and not enough about what they have done that works. Anyone have QMR therapy done?

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Jan, Community Member
4/27/12 10:45am

Marie gives me hope since Im 55 and like my mother, have hip arthritis in both my hips. I am considering PRP therapy since it is offered in my city. Its nice to hear from someone that has done everything they can and can report the results. More people need to do that so that we can judge if something works.

Too many posts about what they want to do and not enough about what they have done that works. Anyone have QMR therapy done?

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hopeful, Community Member
1/21/13 1:06pm

Any luck with info on regenexx?

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Annette, Community Member
3/29/13 4:25pm

Lisa,

 

I just had Prolotherapy, stem cells(REGENEXX SD

 

and SCP/PL at Regennex in Denver.  My last injection was March 5th 2013.  I am waiting to see.  They told me to stay off my hip and do pool therapy for at least 6 weeks.  I am in week 4.  I have not noticed anything major but I do think it is working.  they told me it might be 6 months before I really know.  So, here I am waiting and praying.

bETH

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FLS, Community Member
11/14/13 6:47pm

Hi Lisa.  I just had the same procedure done on my right hip at Regenexx.  Can you tell me if there has been any improvement after more than six months?

FLS

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Gretchen, Community Member
3/23/14 12:50pm

I just discovered this website.  I need a THR but am allergic to all the metals used so am searching for other relief.  How did you do with your stem cell therapy?  My hip is pretty much bone on bone and I hope to find something that will regenerate cartlidge.

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Cerise, Community Member
5/13/13 1:00pm

OMG That is interesting!!! I have never heard of plasma injections in your cartlidge. I have donated plasma 2 times per week for 12 years now. I have 0 quality of life I need 2 knww replacments & have spinal stenosis, spondylosis, pinched nerves herniated disc & my L4 & L5 is out of place in my dpine & have degenerative arthritis. I am in chronic pain 24 hrs a day & my docs don't believe in pain meds. I can only stand up 5 minutes at a time without crying the pain is soo bad. I came to this site because I wondered if donating plasma is bad for the conditions I have? My condidion is getting worse because I have sciatica & it hurts to sit up so I am bed ridden. Anyone who reads this please give me some suggestions? I live in Michigan & I am going to look up on the internet getting the plasma injections myself. Also I read a man's post about Piasciedene extract. Do I need a perscription for this or is it OTC & how much is it?

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Gretchen, Community Member
3/24/14 1:43pm

HiI am new to this b;log - am trying to find out all I can.  I am bone on bone in my left hip . .cnnot have THReplacement due to metal allergies.  I would love to correspond with you and see how you are doing now.

 tks

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vjada, Community Member
9/28/10 4:55am

 

Just read you message again....wondering what part of Alabama are you from?

I am here in Huntsville.  I have searched and have yet to find  a doctor who does PRP or prolotherapy here in Alabama.

I am considering going to Prolotherapy Nashville  to see Dr Mark Johnson.

Have you found a doctor yet that does PRP?

 

Best wishes,

VJADA

 

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vjada, Community Member
7/10/11 3:59am

hello Marie,

I was wondering if you have found a prolotherapy doctor yet.

I am from Huntsville also.  I decided to get started and go to Prolothrapy Nashville (which is actually in Brentwood...that's 35 minles closer to huntsville)

As you may have read in my recent post yesterday 8 July'11  I have had to date prolotherapy and PRP.

 

Please go to www.prolotherapynashville.com  check out what it is all about.

I will tell you first hand that I was anxious at first but Dr Mark Johnson and his

caring staff make the trip well worth it.   They are such good people and really care.  Most of the staff including the doctor have experinced prolotherapy and PRP.

I have had some success with the prolotherapy to date....I just got the PRP on the 6 July and I know that it takes time for results from the PRP.  

I am very excited and as you can see I don't hold back in sharing my experience.

 

Please read my last post from the 8 July 2011 to get more details of my story.

 

I would like to hear from you,  please don't give up.   This treatment is an alternative that will treat the cause of the problem and ultimately get rid of the pain. Traditional doctors are not taught prevention.....they are taught to treat the pain not the cause.

 

best wishes,

vjada

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Diana Yost, Community Member
1/11/12 5:37pm

The Andrew Institute of sport medicine in Gulf Breeze does PRP Therapy.

Diana

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Diana Yost, Community Member
1/18/12 4:10pm

The Andrew Institute in Gulf Breeze, Fl does PRP therapy.

Diana

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Paul, Community Member
6/16/10 9:43pm
I am so glad I found this site.  I spend 23 years on the fire department before right hip OA prevented me from preforming my duties.  I am 51 years old and have been disabled from the fire department for two years now.  In those 2 years my hip has degenerated to the point that I can no longer cut the toe nails on my right foot.  I have looked into tissue regeneration therapies for joints and have not found much human tests.  If I was a goat on the other hand, I've heard there studies showing positive results in regenerating both bone and cartilage.  I too have been waiting a couple of years for some kind of regeneration option.  I am starting to feel both physically and mentally exhausted from the pain.  I have an appointment July 1 to discuss a fairly new (10 years old in the US) hip resurfacing "proceedure".  It's called the Birmingham Hip Resurfacing System.  There website is www.birminghamhipresurfacing.com .  It is similar to a THR but you are able to keep almost all of your femur.  It is metal on metal with larger weight bearing surfaces.  It has greater longivity than THR and grants you the future option of a THR should / when it becomes necessary.  The site also had a Dr. locator for your zip code which was very helpful (there are only 10 surgeons in  Washington  and Oregon that do that surgury.  I definitely would prefer tissue regeneration as a solution....but I don't think my wife will tolerate having to alway mow the lawn and cut my toe nails (and my feet don't stink)..
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Kathy, Community Member
7/ 6/10 1:45pm

 

My husband and I have both had our left hips resurfaced and returned to playing doubles tennis (2006 & 2010).  We are very pleased with the results.  However, I am starting to have problems with my right hip and would like to delay surgery by having tissue regeneration if that's is possible.  I don't intend to let my right hip get as bad as my left hip did. 

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vjada, Community Member
8/ 7/10 10:39pm

In  a hurry but just wanted to comment on hip resurfacing proceedure.

from what I have read in most cases it is a proceedure used on younger people.

I thnk a lot of factors go into consideration on who is right for this etc.

I do know that in some cases it is to buy some time on the inevitable hip replacement later on.  One thing I did not like was it said that the steel ball type surface that is used over time shaving of steel can be detected in the blood stream.

Just do extensive research before you decide on any type proceedure.

Anything I read I share with you all.

 

good luck

vjada   

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G'Ma, Community Member
10/11/10 2:45pm

It has been a few months since you posted on this site and I wonder what you decided to do; and HOW you and your hip are doing.  I am not just curious.  Soon, I am going to have to make the same decision you had to, and need all the help I can get.  Thank you very much.

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mark samsonas, Community Member
4/ 9/11 10:33am

I had a BHR done on my right hip in March of 2010 at the Cleveland Clinic in Euclid Ohio. Dr. Brooks. Excellent results. My left hip is now going and I am sceduled for another BHR in July. Meanwhile I am looking into alternative solutions. Stem cell therapy, etc. Dr. Brooks is excellent but I prefer to try and re-grow what God gave me. In Nov I experienced an infection in my right hip after a dental proceedure. Spent 3 days in the hospital. No fun. Makes me hesitant to have the second one done. Double trouble??

Mark

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Lisa Robinson, Community Member
9/19/11 2:17pm

I have severe degeneration - bone on bone, cysts, spurs and "needed" a THR 3 years ago. I am 53. I have regained a high level of function and diminished the pain to a manageable level by systematically employing every alternative therapy I could uncover: acupunture, prolotherapy, myofacial release, energetic frequencies, integrated manual therapy, prp, mind-body work, and all the herbal and nutritional supplements. I think many of these have worked syynergistically, but the prp has really gained me a new level of function and relief, so much that I could go back to competing at eventing. I would not underestimate its effectiveness even on a bad joint. Alot of places are doing it now: Life Family Practice center in the Villages, FL. Spaulding Rehab in Boston, Beth Isreal, Orthopaedic Professional Association in gilford NH, and I just saw a hospital in southern Maine advertising it on TV! Dig around; you will find it -

 

 

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Gretchen, Community Member
3/23/14 10:29pm

just came across your year old post on health central.  I have pretty much bone on bone in myleft hip and cannot get a hip replacement because I am allergic to all the metals used.  Wondering how you are doing now and if we could correspond some regarding the treatments you found helpful..  I am trying to get information on stem cell treatment - am finding clinics who give it but it is very expensive and I wonder if I will have results with it.  I am not familiar with acupuncture for osteoarthritis and have no idea what prolotherapy, myofacial release prp, etc all means.

thanks.

 

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Hman, Community Member
12/ 5/11 4:14pm

Hi,

 

My left hip is bone on bone. Just to get this clear:  the stem cell stuff won't work for me, right?  Also, these new treatments are very expensive and not covered by insurance.

 

 

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Joe, Community Member
8/ 1/10 11:19pm

A doctor's practice in Broomfield Colorado is treating these issues with stem cells.  The proceedure sounds similar to what is currently widely available to animals through veterinarians.  You can find their website at:

http://www.regenexx.com

 

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BKP, Community Member
8/22/10 11:00pm

I am currently looking into the Rengenexx in Broomfield, Co.  Do you know anyone who has had it done?

 

 

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Allie, Community Member
11/12/10 1:55am

I had my own mesenchymal stem cells injected into my hip joint (diagnosis of severe osteoarthritis & total HR recommended by my home clinic) at Regenexx in Colorado this last July 12th of 2010, and experienced immediate relief.  There have been good days and worse days with trying to get back into good physical condition after more than two years of not much physical activity, except for swimming.  Overall, I'd say I have an 80% reduction in pain, and the days when I do have pain now, it is because I have been stretching and rebuilding muscles and ligaments which were so totally deconditioned.  I am 61 and had been very athletic -- I am now back to biking and some low-impact dance exercise.  I also do treadmill for cardio.  My range of motion in my hip joint is almost back to normal!  I never thought I'd ever be able to do lunges again.

 

I'd recommend the Regenexx clinic with Dr. Schulz very highly.

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Lori, Community Member
2/22/11 1:38pm

Allie,

I am in Colorado also.  I was curious, how much did you pay for this procedure?  Did insurance cover any of it?  I am very intrested in this.

Lori

If you can please email me at

lori.computerchic at gmail.com that would be awesome.  Thanks

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George Clark, Community Member
4/30/12 10:45pm

In my right and left hip I have no cartlidge left, it is bone on bone, with bone spurs, and no inward hip rotation.  Was your this bad?  And have you had exrays to show if there has been regeneration of cartliedge, and more space created between the bones?

 

georgelawrenceclark@gmail.com 

 

I want to go back to playing sports, do you think that is possible. 

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p kalloo, Community Member
9/26/12 9:20am

Thank you for this! I am going to do this in NJ at the Regenexx clinic there and was looking for someone who had done it. Any side effects after the procedure? How long did you have to stay off your feet after the procedure? What is the level of pain during the procedures of collecting, inflaming the area, putting the stem cells in and right after it's done? Would love to hear this information - I am planning to do it in Jan 2013.

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hopeful, Community Member
1/21/13 1:15pm

Looking for followup on this procedure.  Did you do it-has it helped?

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Cerise, Community Member
5/13/13 1:24pm

There is really no pain in the collecting of plasma. A pin prick in your finger is worse. I have been donating plasma for people 2 times per week for 12 years. I am going to check into getting it back for myself because I have no life & am bedridden in serious pain. All of these years I gave & now it is time for me to get back for myself.

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Annette, Community Member
3/29/13 4:28pm

Allie,

 

can you tell me how long you had to wait to get back to the things that you love.  Just doing nothing is getting to me.  I had this done 4 weeks ago but they told me not to do too much for at least 6 weeks. 

 

Beth

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jc boulder, Community Member
1/28/11 1:24pm

Hi everyone, I live in Boulder Co and am a 46 year old male and have had a degenerative left hip for the past 20+ years. It started with osteoid osteomas (bone lesions) then steady loss of range of motion, increase pain in hip (kind of a dull toothache arthritic pain), pirformis area where the muscle is tight and painful and now deep in my thigh, groin areas. I am still active and tough it out often but have curtailed many of my activities especially skiing, snowboarding, wakeboarding which really REALLY aggravate the hell out of it (tennis and basketball too, very jarring!), I've basically eliminated all of these due to horrific set backs I have had with this condition. I do still jog and hike 4 times a week and feel it helps keep me loose. I start out slow and stiff but typically feel better after 10 minutes and run for 30-45 minutes. I try and always warm up, cool down, stretch in between. No exercising hurts me more than exercising btw. I can NOT do squats or lunges etc at all without lots of pain and restriction so I don't!

 

I drink joint juice, fish oil, go to a chiropractor, get massage therapy, take hot salt baths, use a foam roller to loosen muscles that just wanted to seize up around my joint pain, I take aleve or ibruprofen when I must but try and not take too often (not good for stomache). I have a great diet and eat a lot of fish, avocado, almonds, salads etc etc. Drinking alcohol does trigger more pain and arthritis so have cut down on that a lot too!

 

I started having xray controlled cortisone injections directly in the joint about 1 1/2 years ago. I have had 4 to date and they work miracles for me. I feel like I have a new lease on life and new hip and thigh for about 2-3 months and then they wear off. I am aware of the tissue damage they can cause and have now decided to not have them anymore. My ortho told me that there is NO proof at all that these types of injections cause much damage and urged me to get one every 3 months until the efficacy wears off. He also said I need a hip replacement as soon as I decide I want to go for it. I have been told since I was 32 I would need one at some time: all the hallmarks were there. Before the injections I did not have bone on bone but all the other things mentioned above and a lot of discomfort regularly. Colorado is tough on arthritis btw. when in Florida or Mexico I have so much less pain it is amazing (I should just move!!)

So when I went to see Dr Gargaro of Kaiser in Denver on Jan 26th 2011 (he is supposedly their top ortho from what I've been told and I was referred to him by the ortho I'd been seeing who was not helping me at all), he said I had bone on bone on inner hip area toward my groin but the other area still had somewhat decent spacing but less than previous xray taken 10 months prior.. He gave me all the scoop on total HR vs Birmingham HR and felt I should just choose bt the 2 but maybe I'd be a better candidate for the BHR. He went into full detail on both etc etc and then I said "what would you do if you were me"? He said get as many cort injections as possible and just wait as long as you can so I lessen the odds of needing 2 HR over the span of my lifetime. I also mentioned waiting is good bc technology is on my side with stem cell etc etc. he did not acknowledge the stem cell comment at all but that as far as HR tech that is true.

After really thinking about all of this I decided to delve back into research and stumbled upon this blog. I am comforted by all your stories (misery loves company) and of course feel your pain and know how debilitating this shi* is, IT SUX!!

 

SO, where I am going with all of this..?

 

I've decided to go to the regenexx stem cell folks at the Centeno-Schultz Clinic/ Christopher J. Centeno, M.D. He is a friend of my friends and has supposedly helped many people with our conditions..

 

I will let you all know how things transpires as I get the info on whether I am a good candidate, cost, if it can work, if it does work etc etc..

 

I wish you all the best in managing your pain and trying to enjoy your lives while living with this crap!

 

jc

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JK, Community Member
3/ 5/12 2:25pm
I am 38 yo and have RA and have degeneration of the cartilage in my left hip and just filled out a candidate form for Regenexx. After four hip arthroscopies, I was finally told a couple of years ago to get a THR for cartilage damage, but I don't think I'm bone on bone yet. I held off to have kids and I'm glad I now did. Before being on crutches and not being able to sit for over five years, I was into firefighting for a local department in my spare time, skating, ice hockey, roller hockey, rock climbing, and biking as hobbies. I too am very interested in hearing others experience with Regenexx at Dr. Centeno Schultz's clinic and stem cell treatments in the hip. I live in Michigan but am contemplating traveling out there to try the stem cell treatments if I am eligible. I'm also going back to see my ortho specialist, Dr. Jon Sekiya, a doc who works on joints that other surgeries failed to fix, to see his take. He did a procedure to recapsule my hip and lengthen the IT band and hip ligaments using x-plasty. It gave me a bit more room in the joint so it no longer feels like it is going to explode all the time. Apparently he does allografts and microfracture now too. Reply
ricegirl, Community Member
9/25/10 12:04am

I am also looking into Regenexxx, and would like to know if anyone has done it!

ricegirl in LA

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Jay, Community Member
9/28/10 11:43am

Go to this website: http://iagh.com/

Dr. Allen Dunn using stem cell research claims to be able to regrow hip cartilage.

The injections are $420 each requiring upto 12 possibly and currently Medicare does not cover the injections. Hip joints will require 2 injections per visit @ $780 out of pocket. Located in Miami, FL

Have a Blessed Day

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Jo-Ann, Community Member
1/ 9/11 11:21am

Hiya Mike

 

Im currently 31yrs old and have O/A of both knees and my right hip, im living in the north east of england sunderland to be exact. I am currently have the stem cell operations. I had my 1st operation to extract cartledge cells on my right knee as this is ment to be the worst on the 17th December they a currently been grown in a lab and i have them reinplanted on the 3rd of february, I have very little cartledge left in my right knee so i am hopeing that the stem cell therapy works as this is all i have left.

 

Jo-Ann

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G'Ma, Community Member
1/ 9/11 7:32pm

Please let us know how this treatment works out for you in February.  If this regrows the cartilage, we will all be on the first flight to Sunderland!  Good luck to you.

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Sybil, Community Member
1/27/11 1:47pm

I am 57 years old, and until I read the postings on this site I thought I was too young to have O/A. I started having problems about 6 months ago, but have just gotten diagnosed this month. My cartilage is almost gone in my right hip. I have been using a cane since Nov. Can't walk without it and still have pain. I haven't had any injuries so what causes this? It seems the cartilage deteriated rather quickly. My right leg is also shorter and has bone spurs. What treatment do you think would be best for me. I have no insurance and can't afford very expensive treatments.

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G'Ma, Community Member
1/27/11 2:01pm

I have had all of the treatments I know about:  therapy, cortisone shots, shots made of roosters' combs, etc., and finally a hip replacement.  All are very EXPENSIVE.  On the leg with bone spurs, you might try arthroscopic out-patient surgery to clean up the area.  I have read about people flying to Europe to get their hips replaced to save money.  Mine, insured, cost around $100,000!!  Unbelievable!  The cortisone shots were not cheap, and worked for about one year, but caused the little cartiledge I had to disappear. 

 

My suggestion to you would be to purchase insurance anyway you can, and find the best surgeon in your area and have the hip replaced.  My surgeon does around 1000 per year, but it was the hospital and prothesis that cost the most.  Call up the hospital and the hip manufacturer and try for a deal.  Good luck. 

 

By the way, I am 7 weeks after surgery and dancing around like a kid again!! 

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G'Ma, Community Member
1/28/11 2:27pm

I have just come from seeing the wonderful surgeon, Edward Stolarski, and asked about uninsured patients.  He told me to tell you to check out Florida Medical Retreat.  They provide everything and people come from all over the world.  It certainly would be worth a call for you to find out what they can do to help you.  Good luck.

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Sybil, Community Member
1/29/11 3:08pm

Thank you for all the advice and info. I live in The UP of Michigan, but will certainly check it out. Thanks again.

 

Sibby D

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Sybil, Community Member
4/ 7/11 2:55pm

G'Ma..... Hi I thought I'd give you a update on my situation. I found a program called CHAC that discounts medical treatment for those with no insurance, or Medicade. I was able to get a total hip replacementand they also had to graft bone onto my hip socket to cover the ball of my leg bone. Apparently I had a birth defect I didn't know I had. I am home now and doing well.  It's been about 3 weeks since surgery and I have already gotten the stapples out. I have also been approved for Medicade and don't have to worry about the medical bills. One thing I would advise anyone who is having pain in their hip is to get help and treatment as soon as they can.  I should have gotten mine done long before I did.

 

Anyway, Thank You for all your great advise and consern. I am getting better every day, and am glad I got it done.

 

Sibby D

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G'Ma, Community Member
4/14/11 10:28am

Dear Sibby:  It's so good to know that it all worked out well for you.  I am about 4 months past my surgery and am like a kid again.  Now I can go and do things without pain.  Isn't it wonderful?  One thing, if I don't do my exercises, I feel it--so no matter what, do them daily.  Good luck and happy spring.  G'Ma

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Sybil, Community Member
4/14/11 1:36pm

Thank you, I am only about a month past my surgery and am doing fine. Since I now have Medicade, I have arranged for physical theropy but I am also doing the exercises they told me to do at the hospital.  Again Thank you for your info and help. I already feel better than I did before the surgery.  My left hip will eventually have to be done also but right now my left hip doesn't bother me, and also feels better than it did before the surgery on my right hip.

 

Sibby D

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gareth, Community Member
6/ 9/12 4:37am
Hello Mike, I am very onterested to hear how you are getting on, I am in a similar situation to you. My email is garethday9@hotmail.com. would love to hear from you Gareth Reply
G'Ma, Community Member
1/29/11 3:12pm

Perfect time to come to Sarasota!

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Mark, Community Member
2/26/11 11:42pm

See Mesoblast.

 

They are a credible company. Well run and the results they publish are based on scientific trials which are very thorough .

 

They appear to be the real deal and the company most likey to produce results which will stand up to rigourous INDEPENDENT audits.

 

 

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vjada, Community Member
3/ 8/11 4:01pm

Hi Mike

I am in a hurry but for you or anyone else reaading this please do a search: Caring Medical chicago Dr. Ross Hauser or Prolotherapy Nashville. 

I don't know the exact link but these two will get you all some answeres regarding alternative treatment.

I am finally got an appointment on the 29 March with Dr Mark Johnson of Prolotherapy Nashville ( Franklin Street Brentwood Tn)

He mentored under Dr Ross Hauser of Chicago. 

The alternative prolotherapy is a treatment that get the bodies own growth factors working to repair cartilage, ligaments etc.  Dr Ross Hauser was mentored by Dr Hemwell,Dr Hackett who discovered this treatment in the 50's.

Athlets and the chosen few knew of this back then.  It is still not mainstream in most of the country.

You can even just search PROLOTHERAPY.

good luck to all.

I will post again.

VJADA :-)

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Eddy, Community Member
7/ 8/11 1:58pm

hello there, You are the only one I have seen that have found prolotherapy. I can beliave it took me 5 years of searching to find it.

For htose of you who dont know about prolotherapy Go here for a doc near you.  www.getprolo.com and read up on it.

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vjada, Community Member
7/ 9/11 4:11am

Eddy

ditto....getprolo is a great site. I started my prolotherapy treatments in April.

You may have read my other posts.

Both my hips are bad but for what my xrays look like I should be in a "chair"

Orthopedic doctors onlyl look at xrays and when it looks bad they proceed to put you on mobic and say I have done repacement surgery on people whos xrays are not even as bad as yours. Well I refused to take Mobic.  I told my doctor "no thankyou" and did not go back.

I have read too much to know that replacement is not a fix.  Rehab is tough I have heard and read but I also know that the reason many many replacement surgeries fail where the patient continues to have pain months and months and indefinately....is because loose ligament and tendons are the problem that made their joints wear down in the first place.  A new 'hip joint' won't be supported by loose ligaments and tendons either....and so pain continues.

 

Anyhow, I am stubborn and would not take a number for hip replacement and that is why I research and thank God found info on prolotherapy.

 

So, I eat very good .....antiinflammatory foods no junk food.  Shop only the perimeter of the store...stay away from processed foods.  Eat organic for the foods that are the higest in pesticides. Healthy eating...also get some great recipe ideas from DrWeil.com. I also take many supplements. New Chapter's Zyflammend (it's herbal)for inflammation.  Wobenzyme,  fish oil, etc. the list goes on....

 

I see Dr Mark Johnson at Prolotherapy Nashville it is actually in Brentwood.

I have had four prolotherapy treatments on my R hip which is the worse.

And just yesterday had PRP.  My knees are pretty much ok but loose ligaments are a problem.  And in time would likely have a negative effect on my cartilage.

So that being said my doctor offered me the option to do PRP in both knees and my hips.  It was only an additonal $100 since he already had taken my blood and prepared it for the R hip PRP. 

The price range is medium PRP  $400,  Large is $500.   I did the large so he would have enough for both knees and hips.

Regualr proltherapy for one area is $190. 

What he does regarding to help with the pain.....he places something like and electrical stimulation  pads on the area....it give a sensation like the area fell asleep and for  PRP he also uses a bit of prolotherapy before the PRP the lidicane in the solution helps give a more numbing sensation.  Topically the skin is first wiped down with a numbing cream.  So overall not bad at all.

 

Have you experienced prolotherapy yet?   Like to hear what you story is

 

best wishes,

vjada

 

 

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Eddy, Community Member
11/18/11 7:50am

Hi, Vjada. I did all my streaching and exercice to give my self the best chance for Prolo to work. Had one treament ($250, had extra protein) Felt so great in a week I went out and played tenis. Yea, i mess everything up. Pulled muscle alover the place.  So I'm  doing 2 things.. Saving money for 5 treaments and going back to therapy. When those two things are met I'm going back for Prolotheraphy five week straight with out doing anything to mes it up. P.S. while I'm wating i'm also researching on Stem cell therapy, They are getting close.. Just saw on the news 2 days ago that they did stem cell hip therapy on a dog and it worked. I think the will be doing it on Humans with in the next 5 years. People if you can hold on a little longer please do..    

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vjada, Community Member
11/21/11 1:33am

Hi Eddy,

Fat stem cell is the way to go. 

Research it....it is being done now.  You don't have to wait five years.

To date as I had mentioned in previous posts I started Prolo in Nashville.  I live in Huntsville, Al...the drive is worth it.  Although I have had seven treatments two have been a combination prolo with PRP.

My right hip is pretty severe.  The inner thigh area of the joint is where I have the wear.  Not able to cross my legs.  No big deal.

So it seems like I have had some success with the treatment for this right hip.  I also have had the left hip treated and both knees.  The knees were treated as to prevent future problems since I have loose ligament in the knees also.  And that is what causes unstable joints then in time wear.

All this being said I just came back from visiting my sister who lives in New Jersey.  While there I looked up a Prolo Doctor who I found on the Getprolo.com site.  He does fat stem cell prolotherapy. Fat stem cell is the very best way to go.

I did not have the fat stem cell treatment I wanted to discuss this procedure and have a better understanding.  That being said Dr Greenberg charges $5000 for the treatment and two are needed approximately three to six weeks apart.

Not what I can do right now.  To date I have spent $3100 for my treatments in Nashville.  The doctor in Nashville does not do bone marrow or fat stem cell prolo.  He said prolotherapy and PRP would be best for  me.   I am bothered by that answer....is it because he does not do fat cell prolo???

I had not planned on being treated in NJ last week while visiting but I decided to at least have Dr G do prolo and PRP.  I had both hips done ...front PRP and rear regular prolo.  

I am glad I had the opportunity to get treated in NJ but goodness it was twice as expensive as Nashville.

I don't know about spending $5000 two times.

I read where Dr Hauser  of Caring Medical in Chicago charges about 3500.  

I would really need both hips done....I need to win a lottery....oh sweet it would be.                   

Good luck and keep up with the exercise. Remember good nutrition is equally important as is good sleep. 

I myself do water exercise....lots of walking backwards and side ways and forward.  I do this for 30 to 40 minutes at least five days a week at the YMCA.  It is amazing how much I can work out in the water...no way I could for that amount of time out of the pool.I also do upper body aerobics at home to music....and easier on the dance moves with my legs. I have always loved movement and refuse to become a couch potato ....move what you can and don't give up ever!!!

I will check back and share anything I learn regarding Regeneration of joints.

Best wishes,

Vjada

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Dr.DINESH, Community Member
3/11/11 2:10am

HI ,

     Iam here to offer an most innovative but proven stem cell treatment for osteoarthritis, cartilage defect and  avascular necrosis wherin we use your our cells to regenerate your hip and knee joint . for further details contact drdinesh@regrow.in. regards

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miguel, Community Member
3/28/11 9:38pm

I  have OA in the left hip. I am told by orthopods that   replacemnt in areas like the hip joint dont stay in place.

One thing to look for is your body balance. Is it out of kilter causing wear at the joint. Clinics that teach Egoscue, pilates acn help.

 

A less invasive surgery pioneered in the UK is hip resurface..

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Eddy, Community Member
7/ 8/11 1:47pm

I'm 48 and had OA for 5 years, Like every body els I'm waiting for stem cell to hury upand get here. But I did find somrthing that I found searching the internet, I thought it was new, but is invented in the 1920 and perfected in the 1950's. It's called "PROLOTHERAPY" here is a link where you can find a doctor near you. http://www.getprolo.com/ and it laso explains it. I have not gone yet because these doctors don't take my insurance (they do take insurance, just not the one I have) the cost is $375 per injection and you will need 6 to 10. Any way read up about it. I just cant belive it took me 5 years to find it on the internet, something that's been around since the 50's. And no doctor tells you about it. Anyway this gets back like 30% to 70% of cartlage And then we can all wait for the stem cell people to catch up. lol.  Good look. 

 

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Lisa Robinson, Community Member
11/28/11 9:59am

PRP is way better - I know; I have had 12 prolo and three PRP; see my earlier post.

 

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adb, Community Member
8/ 1/11 5:27pm

I'm 63. 5 yrs ago I was diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my hips. I was told I needed a hip replacement. I was told there was no cure and the pain would only get worse. I'd spent months having physio treatment, with zero benefit. After some research, I had my wife start very intense massage around my lower spine for an hour daily. We have gradually dropped it back to twice a week. I am now completely pain free with more mobility than I can remember having had even before signs of arthritis. I lead a very active life, work out for a couple of hours a day and am a keen rock climber.

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siya, Community Member
8/10/11 12:41am

My father was suffering from grade IV arthritis and he was in a lot of pain. He was treated with SPMF Therapy, also called QMR therapy. The treatment involved daily therapy for 1 hour for 3 weeks. The treatment was completely painless. He is doing very well now. Here's the site in case you want to give it a try,www.sbfhealthcare.com The treatment was completely safe and my father is able to do his daily chores all by himself.

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RickW, Community Member
8/17/11 8:05am

Hi everyone, I'm not sure I'm doing this right to get it in the queue, but i'll see after i guess.

 

61. RHip. Congenital Hip Dysplasia.  Pain started 3-4 yrs ago.  Hip replacement scheduled for November.

 

Started cycling again to build up for the surgery.  And doing partial squats on an incline board.  After 5 weeks of high RPM cycling about 60 miles a week, my hip is remarkably better.  almost no limp.  doesn't hurt to lay on that side.  does hurt minimally at the top of the cycling stroke, but that goes away after awhile.

 

I've been told once in the past by an Orthopod that there has been research in Canada that suggested that high RPM cyclical motion can help chondrocytes regenerate.  ergo high rpm, low load cycling is helpful for knees.  I can't find that research, but have to wonder why my hip feels so much better.  makes me consider putting off the THR.

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vjada, Community Member
9/ 8/11 5:24pm

if you feel fine....for goodness sake put off the surgery and in the meantime search getprolo.com for alternative treatments.

Briefly prolotherapy injections of dextrose, laticaine and other natural proliferants can tighten up ligaments and tendons resulting in support to connecting joints.

At the getprolo site you can find a doctor in your area.

Good luck and please search.........

 

 

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siya, Community Member
9/16/11 3:02am

I know of this place that does treatment for Osteoarthritis, which involved regeneration of cartilage. My father was treated there, he had knee osteoarthritis. Over the months, we have seen major improvement is his condition. The pain has reduced to a great extent, doctor says his cartilage is also better than before. His movement was restricted earlier, now he feels much better. Although he is not able to go outside for long walks, he is certainly able to move and carry out his daily chores at home. When he goes outside, he doesnt exert himself too much, so walking smaller distances has become easier. Go to sbfhealthcare.com, you will find details there. I am sure they must be treating hip arthritis too. Surgery is a big step, which is not always feasible, so might as well try this one out! Hope that helps.

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Mike, Community Member
9/19/11 8:57pm

Who are you? and STOP polluting this thread with fake posts. 

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vjada, Community Member
1/20/12 3:43am

I am curious where is this place you know of that treats Osteoarhritis, which involves regeneration of cartilage?

Please share with this message board...this place maybe in an area of the country that would be convenient for someone looking for treatment.

:-)

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george, Community Member
1/14/12 6:29am

Hi, Mike,

 

I am in the same boat , looking for stemmcell therapy in Europe, si if anybody has some info pls let me know

rgds

George

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george, Community Member
2/16/12 6:55am

hi, Mike, i am located in the Netherlands , and also looking for other options than a complete hip replacement, and what i googled - was the a usa based clinic with url http://www.regenexx.com  This clinic is doing regenerate cartilage by using your own stemmcells, so you can visit this website and contact them, hopefully they can help you out. Looking forward to their reaction.

good luck - and succes

george 

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james, Community Member
2/27/12 12:16pm

please please please people, go ahead with stem cell treatments, had pain in my right hip and mr doctors wanted me just to have a replacement at 35. but found a private hospital that did the treatments, since had treatment may last year i feel tonnes better! they used bone from my pelvis to use in both hips as left was getting bad too,  its still ongoing so feel it too early to give many details  but i will say a xray two month later showed slight regeneration in right and near total in left. but need a follow up xray.p.s pain gone !

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james, Community Member
2/27/12 12:16pm

please please please people, go ahead with stem cell treatments, had pain in my right hip and mr doctors wanted me just to have a replacement at 35. but found a private hospital that did the treatments, since had treatment may last year i feel tonnes better! they used bone from my pelvis to use in both hips as left was getting bad too,  its still ongoing so feel it too early to give many details  but i will say a xray two month later showed slight regeneration in right and near total in left. but need a follow up xray.p.s pain gone !

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vjada, Community Member
4/13/12 1:17am

Bone from your pelvis was this bone marrow from your pelvis bone?

Just wondering.  I have had prolotherapy and PRP for my hips and have seen signifiacant change but would like to go all the way and get bone marrow stem cell treatment.

thanks for your input.

Vjada

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Annette, Community Member
3/30/13 5:11pm

James,

 

Has it been 9 months since you had the stem cell treatments?  how long before you first noticed a change?  I am wondering if it is going to work.  I had it 4 weeks ago.  they don't tell you about the long wait.  Going nuts

Annette

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Annette, Community Member
3/30/13 5:12pm

James,

 

It has been 9 months since you had the stem cells?  how long was it before you started to notice???  I am waiting impatiently.  They told me 6 weeks of only pool therapy and minimal walking.  I am going nuts.

Annette

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george, Community Member
2/27/12 6:56pm

see for www.regenexx.com 

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MRW, Community Member
3/26/12 10:53am

I am 59 and had total hip replacement at 54.  Had bone on bone and saw 5 specialists...it was now or later so selected the anterior procedure.  Was moving with no cane by 3rd week and yoga at 6 weeks and PT was key.  Now I have no cartilage in thumbs(darn blackberry!)  Tried PRP nothing. so just had basel arthroplasty...so far so good.  really dont want second hand or hip done so researching stem cell therapy.  Anyone know of research sucess in California?

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george, Community Member
3/30/12 9:27am

dear Mike,

check with www.regenexx.com -  in the USA.

 

success

rgds

george

 

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Toni, Community Member
4/17/12 12:15pm

I am suffering with knee pain as a result of a surgical repair of torn cartilage. Apparently my meniscus was removed and now at 45 I cant go up or down stairs. I saw a segment on "the Doctors" regarding a stem cell procedure that was completed and she was going up and down stairs after 3 days! However, they are located in CO and I live in TN. I am having a hard time finding a local Dr that performs the same procedure. But maybe the below links will help you find more info. Good luck!

 

http://www.centenoschultz.com/about/our-staff/dr-ronald-w-hanson/

 

http://www.thedoctorstv.com/main/show_synopsis/1043?section=synopsis

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vjada, Community Member
4/19/12 4:25am

I saw that same segment on the Doctors ...how amazing. I have since been searching stem cell therapy and it looks like CO is the closest.

I am in Alabama, have hip OsteoArthritis and have traveled to TN. and had prolotherapy and PRP therapy over the last year. There are days when I feel the improvement and then there are days like today that I feel  not too much different than when I started with the therapy.

I feel that bone marrow stem cell is what I need. Dr Centeno in CO is too far ....if I were to get on a plane I would go to Caring Medical in Chicago and see Dr Hauser.   I have relatives in NJ and have seen a doctor up there who does fat stem cell therapy.  I did not get a good feeling about the clinic...it is a wellness clinic and they address many issues.

I think I would have more confidence in a clinic that speicialized in joint issues only.

I must say what impressed me with Regenexx / Dr Centeon is that they do a MRI/xray guided stem cell injection.  They really target the area needing the regeneration. But then I read on line some people felt they are all about the money and not the individual patient needs.

 

If we fast forward ten years from now it will likely be several doctors doing these procedures and hopefully insurance will see that it is cheaper to cover this type therapy in the long run considering  all that they will save by not having to pay out all the thousands of dollars on claims for Joint replacement surgeries.

best of luck ..

 

 

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george, Community Member
4/19/12 6:26am

check regenexx.com  in the USA

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Toni, Community Member
4/19/12 4:49pm

Thnaks...Already did..closest to TN is IL.

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george, Community Member
4/19/12 5:04pm

hope it will work out for you - let me know if it works for you. rgds

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Laura Miller, Community Member
7/12/12 8:34am

my husband had steam cells placed in both knees. all other drs told us he had to have both knees fully replaced. I found Dr. Conti in Pinehurst NC he's the best, I've done lots of research on it and he was the most experienced dr.

it's been 6months now and my husband is walking likes he's 20 again.

Now after the treatment it will hurt like hell for about a week but you'll wake up one day and feel young . 

the link to click http://www.ucomparehealthcare.com/drs/neil_conti/

Laughing

Laura

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G'Ma, Community Member
7/12/12 3:07pm

How old is your husband and how much did it cost?  Do you know if he does hips wirh stem (you did mean that ans not "steam," didn't you?) cells as well?  This is fantastic news!  THANK YOU for your posting.  G'Ma

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paul, Community Member
9/15/12 1:30am

yeeeess!!,  well it's not just the stem cell, it's also an array of superbiohealers and rebuilders that you have when your growing upbut deminishes to nothing eveentually,  now multiply those healing powers when you were ten yrs old multiply that x10 u get PRP.... and others like Hylagan and then finally mesenchymal dna "stem cells"  x that by 100.   - some serious rebuilding, fixing,growing, and regenerate things that haven't been in the body for 30 yrs, like hair even, and of course your partially worn out  CARTILAGE has more than a good chance of being a non issue very soon.

I know this b/c I am fixing my recently dx hip arthritis due to car accident 2009 -sped it's femoral acetabular impingement on L side,  while my R calcaneous was pulverized by the brake pad from front  collission.

I'm doing similar things soon and hope to report pheneominal results,  so I know you are gonna be fine.

hope this helps youjr ?-

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Stellabee, Community Member
2/17/13 9:31pm

Update on your progress please. I have bone on bone left hip. rejected by Regenexx...need more leads and hope. Thanks.

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Stellabee, Community Member
2/17/13 9:31pm

Update on your progress please. I have bone on bone left hip. rejected by Regenexx...need more leads and hope. Thanks.

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paul, Community Member
9/15/12 1:31am

yeeeess!!,  well it's not just the stem cell, it's also an array of superbiohealers and rebuilders that you have when your growing upbut deminishes to nothing eveentually,  now multiply those healing powers when you were ten yrs old multiply that x10 u get PRP.... and others like Hylagan and then finally mesenchymal dna "stem cells"  x that by 100.   - some serious rebuilding, fixing,growing, and regenerate things that haven't been in the body for 30 yrs, like hair even, and of course your partially worn out  CARTILAGE has more than a good chance of being a non issue very soon.

I know this b/c I am fixing my recently dx hip arthritis due to car accident 2009 -sped it's femoral acetabular impingement on L side,  while my R calcaneous was pulverized by the brake pad from front  collission.

I'm doing similar things soon and hope to report pheneominal results,  so I know you are gonna be fine.

hope this helps youjr ?-

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Annette, Community Member
3/30/13 5:29pm

Does it work?  DId it work for you?  How long did it take before you noticed that it was working?  I am waiting and going nuts.

 

Pleasse respond,

 

Beth

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crinaldi31, Community Member
11/21/12 5:27pm

Water Can Help to Relieve Arthritic Pain

Enjoy Drinking More Water and Help to Relieve Painful Arthritic Joints by Installing a Drinking Water Purification System!

New Studies show that in order to relieve the pain associated with arthritic joints; we need to increase the amount of water we drink. But just as important as increasing our water intake is the purity of our drinking water. US tap water contains hundreds of harmful contaminants and the best method to ensure that your water is free from contamination is to install a drinking water purification system.

Arthritis Can be Caused by Joints Deficient in Water

Many doctors are now realizing that the pain of arthritic joints, in many cases, is the direct indication that the joint surfaces (cartilage) is deficient in water.

Our joints consist of bones which are both covered with a layer of cartilage. It is actually the cartilage, not the bones that come into contact with each other. The cartilage surfaces constantly rub against each other; the cells die and peel away and then regenerate. Cartilage is mostly made up of water and a joint that has sufficient water supply, stays nice and smooth causing very little friction and damage to the joint. However, if a joint has insufficient water supply, the cartilage fails to be replenished and shrinks in size and function, producing much more friction and damage to the joint, which eventually causes arthritis.

Cartilage is low priority for water supply. So if you don't drink enough water, the cartilage is one of the last places that water will replenish. If the cartilage has not suffered long-term de-hydration, it is possible to gradually restore the cartilage back to its smooth, re-hydrated condition but if the cartilage has worn away to the extent where bone is rubbing against bone, it is unfortunately too late for water to be able to repair the joint.

Water Filters Help to Avoid Adding Unwelcome Contaminants into the Bloodstream

It is very important for our joints as well as the overall health of our body to drink more water. The benefits of drinking more water are widely publicized these days. But the water we drink needs to be purified water, free from harmful contaminants that can have adverse effects on our health. Unfortunately, most tap water contains chemical and toxic contaminants. Replenishing body water with pure, filtered water is important because it helps to avoid adding unwelcome contaminants into the blood steam.

These days it is very inexpensive and easy to install a water filtration system in your home. There is a huge range of different filters to choose from: filters that attach to your tap, whole house water filters and portable systems and water filter cartridges.

A water filter in your home will give you piece of mind that you are giving your body clean, pure water as nature intended and hopefully help to relieve the painful symptoms of arthritis.

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hopeful, Community Member
1/21/13 12:58pm

Has anyone had the stem cell cartilage regeneration?  I have seen several sites of orthopedic surgeons who are doing this.

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montyjam, Community Member
2/13/13 4:37pm

I am currently considering having this procedure done in Mexico.  It is a day procedure but I will not be able to put any weight on my hip (leg) for 10 days after the surgery in order to give the stem cells a chance to model the existing cartilage. It is my understanding that the new cartilage is very fragile and needs to be babied a bit at first.  I am an ideal candidate as I am only at Level 2 (Level 4 being the worst) OA.  My cartilage still exists and can therefore be regenerated.  I'm 54 years old and will need a hip replacement in the future if I don't get this done now.  I too am looking to communicate with someone who has had this procedure.

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G'Ma, Community Member
2/15/13 11:40pm

If this worked, don't you think it would be done in the US?  Look up Mexican stem cell procedures on your computer.  I will be waiting to hear what happens.  Good luck. 

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samson, Community Member
6/11/13 1:07am

hi,,

 

My father was suffering from OA of knee. Doctors have suggested for TKR,

and he was in a lot of pain.he was nt willing to go for any surgery so we done a treament with SPMF Therapy. The treatment involved daily therapy for 1 hour for 3 weeks. The treatment was completely painless. He is doing very well now.And there a significant regeneration of cartilage.

Here's the site in case you want to give it a try, www.sbfhealthcare.com

 The treatment was completely safe and non invasive and my father is able to do his daily chores all by himself.

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patient001, Community Member
11/ 8/13 6:07pm

everyone please if you get a chance take a look at this clinic in Los Angeles California: stem cell therapy is the way to go

 

www.metromd.net

 

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Ron, Community Member
1/19/14 9:28pm

I have just had the Stem Cell injections for both hips and knees.  They also inject around one billion cells intravenously, to pick up any "loose ends" as well as focusing on the desired joints of dysfunction.

For the record, i screwed up my joints from distance running.  On average, i would pound the pavement around 160klm/week. Did this for 25 years.  Absolutely loved it, but the results are unfortunately coming back to bite me.

Only 4 weeks now, but the feelings of walking on glass have already dissapeared.  I am told i may need a good 6 months to achieve the full results, which has around an 85% positive result.  I have to be careful of the amount of "load bearing" that i do for another 4 weeks, before i can SLOWLY return to more desirable activities.

 

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Mike, Community Member
1/20/14 7:52am

Ron,  Glad to hear that you are feeling better. 

 

We need more info.

 

Dr.'s name? Clinic's name? How much did it cost?  Did insurance pay any part of the procedure? How long were you in the hopsital? How did you find the Dr. ?  Do you know some one else who has this procedure

done?  Are you walking with kane right now? 

Details, my friend, Details.   Please inform all of us about EVERY Detail about your procedure - Before, During and After.  Anything you learned about it that you didn't know before.  We want to know :-)

Thanks.

 

-Mike

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george, Community Member
1/20/14 7:55am

Hi, ron,

 

good to hear how your treatment went, just keep us posted how you will do in a few months from now, I live in the Netherlands , so I am realling interested if this could work out for me either.

 

good luck and keep going

 

Goerge

 

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Ron, Community Member
2/24/14 12:02am

Hi George.  i'm at week 9 now and the pain in my right hip has basically dissapeared. i get the occasional twinge whilst in bed, but that is pretty much it.  The left hip was continuing to show referral pains of a neurological nature, so we did a PRP procedure, which is more than a "booster" for the stem cells.

Almost immediately, the referred pain dissapeared, and am now simply left with some discomfort within the left joint itself.  

i think the major thing that people tend to forget, is that the affected joints also suffer from muscular atrtophy, and the range of motion (due to the structural changes) remains a big factor.  i have been advised to wait another month before i undertake some exercises to correct the two areas, but have no dillusions about the end results considering the restrictions and pain i was in initially.  Basically, any improvement is a bonus.  Can't wait, as i am getting fatter by the day, due to lack of exercise.

I have already drafted up a selection of exercises to address the areas that need assistance.  Will keep you informed as to my progress.  i will try my best not to voice my frustrations excessively.  No pain, no gain, is definitly the choice of therapy for us old codgers.

Cheers

Ron.

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Ron, Community Member
2/24/14 12:51am

Hi George.  i'm at week 9 now and the pain in my right hip has basically dissapeared. i get the occasional twinge whilst in bed, but that is pretty much it.  The left hip was continuing to show referral pains of a neurological nature, so we did a PRP procedure, which is more than a "booster" for the stem cells. Almost immediately, the referred pain dissapeared, and am now simply left with some discomfort within the left joint itself.   i think the major thing that people tend to forget, is that the affected joints also suffer from muscular atrtophy, and the range of motion (due to the structural changes) remains a big factor.  i have been advised to wait another month before i undertake some exercises to correct the two areas, but have no dillusions about the end results considering the restrictions and pain i was in initially.  Basically, any improvement is a bonus.  Can't wait, as i am getting fatter by the day, due to lack of exercise. I have already drafted up a selection of exercises to address the areas that need assistance.  Will keep you informed as to my progress.  i will try my best not to voice my frustrations excessively.  No pain, no gain, is definitly the choice of therapy for us old codgers. Cheers Ron.

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Ron, Community Member
2/24/14 12:56am

Yes it can.  i am in my 9th week post stem cell therapy, and another gentleman had his knees addressed, which were bone on bone, two weeks before me.   In 8 weeks, he had grown back one centemetre of cartilage.  Confirmed by an MRI.

Lets just say, he is a very happy chappy, and he is still another two months away from where he can expect the basic response.

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george, Community Member
3/23/14 1:50pm

Hi, ron,

 

good to hear from you agan -  also it's good to hear that you are doing well, and indeed it will take time that the hip area - muscles etc... get in a new shape.

One step at the time, maybe some swimming can improve the muscle area, because swimming doesn't give a pressure on your skeleton.

By the way which orthopedic surgeon treated you or which hospital etc... 

I am really interested - Unfortunatley I am in the Netherlands , and we don't have the ooportunity yet to get the same treatment as you have received.

Looking forward to hear from you agan

 

Keep the good spirit - 

 

Kind regards

George Mobron

Vijfhuizen

The Netherlands 

 

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