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Large Doses of Vitamin D helpful in Osteoporosis

Dear Friends,

 

Current research has it that large doses of VitaminD can be safely taken and have proven helpful in osteoporosis.

 

I wonder whether one day large doses of Vit D will replace the biophosphonates which have already come in for much debate because of the side effects like jaw necrosis. Will Vitamin D in high doses be the panacea the world is waiting for? I dont know. But I would ask the members here to read the website below and then judge for themselves, and narrate any experiences of success they may have had with it.


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Experts Recommend Vitamin D 10,000 IU Upper Limit

The tolerable upper intake level for oral vitamin D3 should be increased five-fold, experts from the US-based Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN) have said after a review of the science.

The risk assessment provides companies with a guide for safe upper levels for product formulations, and consumers with vital information on safe dosage levels from products.

“This risk assessment was needed to show that newer evidence supports the conclusion that vitamin D is much safer then previously thought, particularly because of all the emergence research that shows benefit for vitamin D at higher levels than consumers were traditionally taking,” lead author John Hathcock said.

Currently, the tolerable upper intake level (UL) in Europe and the US is set at 2000 International Units (IU), equivalent to 50 micrograms per day. However, recent research, particularly from clinical trials, suggests that this should be raised. The CRN scientists state that this could be raised to 10,000 IU (250 micrograms per day).

The reviewers, from the CRN, Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto and Crieghton University in Nebraska, pooled data from 21 clinical trials using doses ranging from 10 to 2500 micrograms (100,000 IU). The risk assessment also included data from animal studies, some of which used “extraordinarily high doses of vitamin D3”.

“The lack of adverse effects in clinical trials that used intake up to 1250 micrograms [50,000 IU] vitamin D per day and the lack of adverse effects at lower doses inspires a high level of confidence in the data from the strongly designed clinical trials that used 250 micrograms [10,000 IU] vitamin D per day,” said the reviewers.

The researchers also note that for practically all the reported cases of vitamin D toxicity have involved doses that were in excess of those studied in the clinical trials. “Newer clinical trial data are sufficient to show that vitamin D is not toxic at intakes much higher than previously considered unsafe,” said the reviewers.

Vitamin D is made by the body on exposure to sunshine, or can be consumed in small amounts in milk, fish, liver and egg yolk. However because of the low amounts present in the diet, and lack of sunshine in northern climates, with some estimates claiming that as much as 60 percent of northern populations may be vitamin D deficient.

5/ 5/09 7:47pm

Hi Nathji:  You covered some excellent questions, that I'm sure our members could elaborate on.

 

If any of you have some insight on these theories, please post with your personal experieces.  Since many of you are on a therapeutic high doses of vitamin D; I'm sure your knowledge will be invaluable, as is Nathji's!

 

Thanks Nathji for your thought provoking questions!!  And keep the Sharepost coming the are wonderful to read and can help us all.  Journaling through Shareposts is a good way to educate our members, and something I'd recommend for those who want to further their education and draw others into the process, by posting personal experiences.

 

Pam Flores

5/ 5/09 9:39pm

Dear Pam,

 

Thank you so much for your encouraging words, and for also your advice and guidance of the past, as a consequence of which I have been encouraged to share more of my experiences and knowledge with others on this esteemed site.

 

Yours,

Priya

5/ 7/09 12:32pm

Hi Priya:  You might be interested in reading the following web site from the Univ of WA bone physiology course on vitamin D, the author (Dr. Ott) is also a member of the ASBMR, American Society of Bone and Mineral Research. 

 

http://courses.washington.edu/bonephys/opvitD.html

 

Unfortunately, those of us with hypercalcemia wouldn't be able to take these high doses of D for osteoporosis, since it could possibly raise our calcium levels, but it sure would be nice if we could find an alternative to bisphosphonates that would become the "panacea" for bone loss.

 

Here's another symposium you may be interested in, from the ASBMR on vitamin D. 

 

http://app2.capitalreach.com/esp1204/servlet/tc?cn=asbmr&c=10169&s=20343&e=6950&&

 

The audio and slides options is nice since you can listen to it while doing other things, but the format for download is up to you.  Enjoy!!

 

Take Care...

5/ 7/09 12:41pm

Priya, I just tried the second link, and if you have trouble with it, just copy and paste it into the browsers address bar.

 

Good luck...

5/ 8/09 2:08pm

Dear Pam,

 

As always you are the expert, and your knowledge is staggering in all fields of medicine. Thank you for your support of my post on Vit D, and also for the links to the very helpful and detailed researches on Vit D. I will go to them right now!!

 

With best wishes and thanks,

Yours,

Priya

(nathji)

5/ 7/09 4:39pm

Hello Nathji...thanks you so much for sharing your article on vitamin D.  I have read many of your post on the NOF board and so glad to see you posting here as well. I for one would love to see Vitamin D replace biophosphonates, since they have caused so many people problems and for many not with the results they were told to look for.  It would be a safe, effective treatment that most everyone could take without fear.  Once again..thank you for sharing. 


take care...phyllis

5/ 8/09 2:04pm

Dear Phyllis,

 

Thank you for your kind words. I do hope Vit D takes over the role of biophosphonates which are now becoming more frightening than ever because of terrible side effects being reported by almost all the persons one comes across. On the contrary no one seems to say anything against high intakes of Vit D, which is a very encouraging sign.

Thank you for reading my posts on NOF as well.

 

 

Yours,

nathji

Anonymous
Caroline
5/21/09 9:29pm

I have a 4 year old diagnoisi of osteoporosis.  I have been taking Actonel for three of those years.  While I have had few side effects I became concerned about the longevity of taking the drug.  I am now under the care of a bone and mineral density physician at a Research Hospital who is also involved in research.  She has advised me to take the drug for no longer than 5 years.  She tells me that the drug stays in the body for about 2 years after stopping.  She is a strong proponent of Vitamin D3 taken in high doses (4000 to 10,000 units)  I am no longer taking Actonel and do not plan to take biophosphonates again.  I am tired of being a guinea pig for the drug manufacturers and I'm not putting up with it anymore.  I'm treating my osteoporosis with natural foods and supplements.   Anyone else fed up??

5/21/09 10:33pm

Dear Caroline,

 

Thank you for being kind enough to post a response. You have given all of us a very vital piece of information -- that Actonel remains in the body for two years even after it has been stopped.  I  had often wondered what would happen, since I took Actonel for 14 months and then stopped altogether, because I had a "sick" feeling all the time and aches in the legs while walking. I feel better after stopping Actonel, but I dont know how the bone density test will fare. What if the bone density is bad -- while I feel well overall? This has been the experience with some, who stopped biophophonates and then went into a panic after the bone tests and started taking them again--even though they were feeling well!

 

I have begun to take Vitamin D at the 60,000 IU dosage that is available here. To be on the safe side I take one dose every 10 days, which averages to 6000 IU per day.

Since no blood testing is available where I live in the Himalayan mountains, I am taking the dose very carefully.It has been rightly pointed out by Pam Flores that you cannot take Vit D in hig doses if you already have a high calcium level-- which will then get aggravated further.

 

When I took the first dose of 60,000 IU I felt as if I was filled with a plurge of energy and that I could walk over the proverbial "tallest mountain"-- but with the second dose I did not get the same feeling. They say it builds up slowly in the system over a period of months. Many people have reported this "splurge" of vitality after the first large dose. How much Vit D translates into benefits for bone density probably has not been investigated fully. I will get a bone density done after some days and will find out.

 

Dacid Mendosa has a much more informative post on Vit D at:

 

http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/17/69970/comments

 

Best wishes,

Yours,

Priya

 

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