Went to Mayo Jax. Friday. Their GURU (their statement) is a Dr. HUMPHREYS from Scottdale AZ. Mayo. He is their HOLEP expert. will be here next week to train others. Would I be interested in having him do me. So far Yes. Any one have fast imfo on him would be helpful. I saw 2 doctors while their. Both do Greenlight told Turp is still #1 procedure they do. HOLEP is good but has a LONG and HARD Learning curve. That must be used Frequently to stay good at it. Greenlight is a low maintance Chevy. Holep is the high Maintance Jag. DOES do better job on larger Prostates.
I went back to Mayo Jacksonville Tues 9/13/2011. After faxing a request based on the advice and questions from the various chatrooms. Who was to be doing the hands on? The Expert from Ariz. Mayo or the other Doctor.
It was was in fact the other Doctor. Who they stated. After futher questioning only had done 10-15 Holep's and None as big as mine.
He will be closely supervised and the expert will assist. How long does it take to miss by less than a 1/4 of a mm and cut a crutial nerve that puts you on a urine bag or depends for life?
The learning curve is stated all over the web as 50 to start. About 100 for the large glans. Mine is over 100g.
I know many people out their LOVE the Mayo Clinic. and they have done much good work.
However my experience has been one of miss statements? On my 1st phone call I was told that Dr. A*****. was well past the learning curve on HOLEP. This by his nurse on the phone. When I dove the 120 miles to meet him. I was imformed by a different Dr. he had in Reallity done No Holeps to his knowledge.
They then attempted to present Turp or greenlight as the way I should choose. as this did not work. I was left waiting in a room till Dr. A***** showed up.
He then imformed me of the Visit by their HOLEP GURU from Az. and would I be interested in having it done next week by him? I agreed and they ran me thru Ultrasound of the prostate and 2 DRE'S. They then made a pre surgery test appointment for tues and surgery by two Drs. Thursday. Their Dr. was listed 1st RED Flag. thanks again to the boards. Tuesday morning I asked the right questions before going any futher.
I have canceled it all.
Had I not been Misled from the start. I would of NEVER made an Appointment. in the first place. Saved 2 round trips. 240 miles each and days of getting reddy packing for motel ect
It is a shame. Have we gotten this far. That you need a Lawyer present to decifer between what is said and what is meant when talking to Doctors and their staffs.
Please be AWARE out their. Trust YES! But most importanly take time to think and VERIFY everything. Rockman
Sorry to hear about all that wasted time.
I can mention again that although greenlight and TURP are the most common surgeries, my urology chief at Kaiser in San Francisco will only do TURP and in 20 years he has done many hundreds, He will not do greenlight. Doctors do greenlight because it is cheaper for the hospital. Quicker procedure, quicker learning curve.
The way TURP is done at this Kaiser, a catheter is fastened immediately after the operation and the patient goes home with it the same day. There is no hospital stay. But it stays on for 8 days. I have been putting it off and self-catheterizing, which is a lot easier than it sounds --- you slip in a tube and urinate stnading up over ther toilet just as though you were peeing. But eventually I will get around to doing it.
Why don't you talk to the chief urologist at a big local hospital and ask him about TURP and greenlight. TURP is more invasive but has been the standard for many years.
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