Medication levels - seems a little crazy!

By ScrapHappy Thursday, June 26, 2008

Since being diagnosed with RA about 4 weeks ago I'm now on MTX (3 doses so far, latest was 17.5 mg and headed to 25 mg), 1 mg folic acid daily, (2) Aleve 2x per day daily, 5 mg prednisone daily and an injection of corticosteroid in each wrist. My rheumatologist gave me a pamphlet on Humira at my last appointment and I believe he will be putting me on this at my appointment next week. Seems like an awful lot of medication awful fast! Curious to hear what other people's experience has been when newly diagnosed with the list of medications and how long they have been on them.

Lene Andersen, Health Guide
6/28/08 11:52am

All this new medication can be overwhelming - I can see why your head might be spnning!  Your rheumatologist sounds like a fan of aggressive treatment and that can be a good thing.  RA is a nasty thing that can cause permanent damage in your joints, which can affect your ability to function and getting you on some serious disease modifying meds quickly can make a big difference.  That said, if you feel you need a bit more discussion about the treatment your doctor is proposing, when you go back, ask questions.  Tell your doctor that you need more information to process this, ask exactly why there's so much medication, etc., until you feel more comfortable.  You and your doctor are a team and it is easier when both of you are on the same page.

6/28/08 6:25pm

Thank you Lene for your response to my medication post and for your other response to my "hypochondriac" question. My head is really swirling right now and MyRACentral.com has provided me with a weath of information as well as great support from people like you. I take medication for hypothyroidism which is for my lifetime as well but I noticed relatively quickly the huge improvement when I began that medication. However, that medication is only one pill with very minimal side effects (none of which I experienced). The meds for the RA are many and scary! Great suggestion to talk to my rheumatologist so that we are on the same page and maybe they'll be a little less scary and possibly I'll feel better about going forward with the Humira or even feeling a little empowered/edcuated to maybe wait a little longer before going on the Humira.  Thanks again!

6/28/08 7:39pm

I also am newly diagnosed and am curious what your symptoms are and what tests your rheum has done.   I have started on Plaquenil as that is the least toxic of meds my rhem tells me, but at same time am concerned with progress of disease and wasted time if not effective.  Am told can take up to 6 months to work and sounds like after reading other's stories, not highly effective.   I am not a candidate for the biologics as I have history of breast cancer ten years ago , but think I may be candidate for B cell mediating treatment.   Please tell me a little more as to how long and what your symtoms were and what kind of work up your rheum has done

Understand your pain and concern - you're not alone

6/29/08 11:41pm

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Hi Otis, My pain started sometime in January with sore fingers/hands/wrists. The pain ebbed and flowed, sometimes just pain, sometimes extreme pain but non-stop since it began. The pain also changed locations often (thumb, wrist, back of one hand, then the back of the other hand).

 

Sometime in March I started experiencing knife like pains in both big toes and then I noticed a large bunion on top of my right foot (one week there was nothing there, the next week ... BAM! ... where the heck did that come from?!). My primary care physician sent me to a podiatrist who diagnosed it as an "arthritic bunion" (he explained it was "arthritic" because it was on top of my foot as opposed to the side as is often seen). Insurance wouldn't pay for the custom orthotics he recommended so I went to the shoe store and bought shoes with good arch support (Mephisto's) and they've been great! The toe has been relatively quiet for about a month or so other than the permanent damage (the bunion).

 

From January ‘til April I had believed that the problem with my hands/wrists/fingers was some type of repetitive injury (however I already knew it probably was not carpal tunnel).  I returned to my primary care doc in April when I started getting shooting pains down the back of my right hand anytime I used it and also to check out my right pointer finger (it was swollen at the proximal interphalangeal joint - sorry had to look that one up - the second joint from the tip of the finger - and becoming very painful). He then sent me for blood work, x-rays of my right hand/wrist and to an orthopedic hand specialist. The orthopedic doc also did x-rays, of both hands and found no evidence of "boney arthritis". He "diagnosed" my swollen finger as "mystery finger" - very helpful (LOL)!

 

Around this time the pain and swelling seemed to be taking on a life of it's own. Next the left middle finger swelled, then the right ring finger, then both pinky's (not nearly as bad though). My primary then referred me to the rheumatologist I’m now seeing. As things sped up I called the rheumatologist hoping there was a cancellation so that I could get in sooner than my scheduled appointment (managed to get in 10 days earlier) because the pain and swelling was starting to get out of control.

 

Long story short (apologies for the length), my blood work came out normal (negative for RF factor, normal CRP and normal anti-CCP) however my "rheumy" said they don't go by the blood work alone but also by the exam, length of symptoms, morning stiffness (I was experiencing stiff hands/fingers every morning for about 1-2 hours). “It is important to remember that while blood tests are helpful in confirming a diagnosis and assessment of disease activity, it is more important to diagnose and treat based on the patient's clinical presentation.” http://arthritis.about.com/od/diagnostic/f/normalbloodtest.htm He said that he was 90% sure that I had RA. After expressing concern about the other 10% that I may not have it he said that he would still treat me the same way because we needed to get control of the swelling. He ordered more blood work and put me immediately on Methotrexate (MTX)(once a week)(10 mg to start and adding 2.5 mg each week until I get to 25 mg) along with 5 mg folic acid for side effects.

 

I had a check-up two weeks later with no improvement (but also no side effects from the MTX) so he put be on "a bridge" of 5 mg of prednisone to get the swelling down until the MTX kicks in. He also gave me a corticosteroid shot in the top of both wrists (both had really started to flare and had become quite painful). It's been 1.5 weeks since the prednisone and corticosteroid and I can feel "the train finally slowing down". The pain has lessened and the "new" swellings have "slowed down" - not disappeared but definitely slowed.

 

The disease is very confusing as well as the info that many people may believe they know about it. I had relatives tell me that it can’t be RA if my tests were normal however here is info I found online: “Of interest is that if your rheumatoid factor is negative, you are less likely to have a positive CCP. On the other hand, occasionally a patient with RA may have active disease and all these tests are normal. In general, those patients without these abnormalities in the blood are less likely to develop joint damage.” http://arthritis.about.com/od/diagnostic/f/normalbloodtest.htm

My symptoms are in both hands, both wrists, both feet however, the fingers affected are not completely symmetric.

 

I’m still a little leery of that 10% - what if I don’t have RA but yet I’m taking all of this serious medicine? I going on the believe that for the time being it is my job to educate myself and ask lots of questions. My husband has been completely supportive (he works in research and has had some experience with RA) and he reminds me to take an active part in my treatment and the importance of trusting the experience of my doctor. He also cautions that if I don’t feel right with something question it and remember that I always have the option of getting another opinion. My “rheumy” has been very open, informative, patient, etc. and right now I’m choosing to trust him as well as educate myself.

 

Otis, I hope I haven’t bored you to tears with my “story” but I thought it may be helpful to you. Also, I don’t know what part of the country you are in but I live in the San Francisco Bay area and my “rheumy” also spent some time at UCSF which has a large RA program there.

 

Hope this helps! 

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6/30/08 11:29pm

Thank you for all the information.  I am just trying to learn as much as I can - want to

know what to expect in the future.   Find the real information really comes from patients - they're stories and how they cope.   Just wish I knew if I should be more aggressive to prevent more damage and take risk of some of these more toxic drugs or just stay with Plaquenil and wait 6 months.   Like you said , things can change overnight.

Hope the meth works for you with minimal side effects.   I'm always so tired.  I came home from work today and was in bed while the sun was still up!!!  Is that living??

Thanks for sharing

pat

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Shonna
7/ 1/08 12:06am

Just wanted to say that my rheumy upped my folic acid to 2 mg as my hair has been thinning. He'd started me out at 1mg. He said he can't go higher than 3mg because then you risk rendering the methotrexate ineffective. I am on mtx (methotrexate). I have been on mtx for 13 months, humira and pred. Just wanted to pass on my Doc's comment about the folic acid dose.

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Deppe
8/ 2/08 6:40pm

I am new here also.  I was diagnosed in May with seronegative RA.  That is why I was particularly interested in your normal blood work.  I questioned my rheumy about it, too, but he said all the inflammation on the bones scans made it quite obvious.  He said it does not show in blood work on approximately 30% of the patients.  My daughter was also diagnosed since then.  Hers did show in the blood work.  The pain and swelling started in my ankles.  I guess the "flare" has now covered most of my joints.  My hands, wrists, fingers, knees, ankles, hips, some back, and shoulders are all quite painful.  The pain has been unbelievable.  The Dr. has prescribed pain killers, along with MX, folic acid, B12, Vitamin D.  The MX was not tolerable due to my digestive issues (fundaplication 2 years ago) and immediate loss of hair, nausea, and left me sleeping for two days.  I am working, and cannot do that.  We decided to try the Humira injection every other week.  He now wants to add Placquenil.  Has anyone else experienced hair loss or other major symptoms with these drugs?  I am still trying to cope with the reality that I have this chronic disease.  I guess I just admitted it!  I can see where I need to communicate with others with more experience that I.  Thanks for letting me vent.  Deppe

8/15/08 1:08am

A reply to myself (LOL!) - I'm only on 1 mg folic acid, I think I incorrectly said 5 mg.

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Florida Anonymous
7/ 2/08 12:13am

I was diagnosed with RA a little over a year ago.  I began with Celebrex(2 x's a day)  and Medrol (2 day, 1 a day and now 1 every other day), as well as Calcium with Vitamin D (2 a day).  About 4 months ago, I began taking folic acid (2 a day) and methotrexate ( 5 to 6 pills each Friday morning.)  My dosage just got moved up to 7 pills and also got changed to an injection that I give myself each Friday morning (in place of taking the pills.  My hands continue to be achy, especially in the mornings.  Otherwise, it is tolerable.  Walking feels wonderful, but chores with lots of hand movements, like mopping or computer keyboarding, are painful after 5 minutes into it.

Anonymous
Samantha
7/ 5/08 1:58am

i have been there..and currently still am. i take quite a bit of medicine too. i take folic acid, mtx, prednisone, Humira, and Mobic, which is the pain reliever. the dosages have been messed around with during these past two years, and instead of humira i have also used enbrel and remicade.

 

after a while you will start to feel better. its nice you're catching it early and starting treatment quickly.

 

i just hope there is some cure, or something that will help those suffering with RA go into remission for a long time!

Anonymous
wally
7/19/08 8:22pm

I was diagnosed with R.A. 2 months ago.Having already had diabetes since age 15 and on insulin 4 times a day i am not happy to have to cope with more medication namely methotrexate 20mg weekly megafol 1mg 6 days a week plaquenil200mg daily sulfasalazine500mg daily coversyl 5mg[related to my diabetes]daily and i am down to 10mg of prednisone daily from today. I am still in a lot of pain especially elbows wrists and shoulders and wonder if this 'stuff' is ever going to work!Last week i had a steroid injection in my knee-all this at 33years of age.Good fun eh?

Anonymous
jacraig
10/18/08 3:48pm

I am newly diagnosed with RA about 4 months.  I was put on Prednisone 10 mgs/day and MTX 10 mgs / week.  After 2 months, my dosage was increased to 20 mgs / week of MTX, but reduction in Prednisone 5 mgs / day.  Since I still have inflammation in my left wrists, my rheumy suggested I go on Humira.  Curious if anyone has been on Humira for a while, and if they shown any side effects?  Also, is there a preferance between Humira, Enbrel, and Remicade?  After reading on various treatment options, the latest trend seems to be a combination of MTX and Biological DMARDs. Does anyone have any success stories with this combination?

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By ScrapHappy— Last Modified: 10/26/11, First Published: 06/26/08