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Would You Like to Buy My RA a Drink?

Sara Nash
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Young, single professional in New York City

At the beginning of my 29th year, my immune system, in an act of...

Sara Nash

Wednesday, June 10, 2009
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See accompanying comic!     Dating is not always all it’s cracked up to be. If any of you have watched a certain popular television show about dating in New York City, you might have the impression that it is both easily done and glamorous.  Well, it’s not. First off, me...
  1. Untitled Comment
    Lene Andersen
    Wednesday, June 10, 2009 at 08:11 PM

    There are times where I wish I could hide my RA and the accoutrements that come with it (like an electric wheelchair) and then there are other times where I'm grateful that my disease/disability is very visible.  Sure, dating from a wheelchair comes with a different set of challenges and dating horror stories (someday, we should have a drink and share stories), but it makes it easier to be yourself when you can't pretend you're well. I can pretend I am better than I am, but in recent years, I've worked hard to be honest about the RA extras that come with me and in so doing, discovered how very much energy it took to put on that façade. It even sort of worked for my social life. Smile

     

    Sorry the guy turned out to be a frog. if you have to suck up that kind of consequences, it's easier if it was worth it.

     

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    Sara Nash
    Wednesday, June 10, 2009 at 10:47 PM

    so true....I'm pretty sure I sufficiently learned my lesson, particularly since the guy turned out to be completely lame.  I would love to get drinks someday and swap stories....hopefully I'll have some better ones by then!

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    Roshni
    Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 09:58 AM

    sara,

     

    this is all too familiar ! i remember when i was dating my (now) husband, i wud constantly lie to him and myself tht i was feelin okay. i got lucky after a series of bad choices to have found him. i always used to push myself and ride on bikes with friends at 2.00 AM just to act like i have a normal life ;-). and yeah, we all pay for it the next day or days or months or years in my case !

    there might b a thousand ****heads but generally there are some really good men out there too and i know soon u will find THE guy . All the best girl !

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    Sara Nash
    Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 11:36 AM

    Thanks, Roshni!  Good to know it's worked out for others.

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  3. Complicated dating
    KC
    Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 10:12 AM

    I haven't been on a date for a VERY long time, since before I was diagnosed. Now that I have multiple chronic illnesses, I waver between telling them on day 1 and holding off until they've gotten me well enough to not use that as a filter.  I'm going on a date this weekend, and I haven't told the guy about any of my health issues.  But some things are hard to hide...the oxygen concentrator in my living room, the sharps container in my bathroom, the cane and handicapped placard in my car, the inhaler and nitroglycerin that I always have with me.  Even on days when I look and almost feel normal, these things are there.  At the moment, I'm thinking I'll address the issue as it comes up naturally.  We'll see how brave I am when that moment comes.

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    re: Complicated dating
    Sara Nash
    Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM

    I know what you mean-very hard to hide all the 'evidence' even if you can kind of hide it on yourself. I wrote a post on my blog about boyproofing my apartment.  Good luck with your date!!!! You'll know how you feel in the moment on whether you want to tell him or not.

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    re: Complicated dating
    marbgonzales
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 at 12:43 AM

    I haven't dated since 2004 when I became sick with RA. I was feeling sorry for myself and trying to hide from the rest of the world until one day I made up my mind that if there was indeed a special man out there for me then God would place him in my path. I went ahead and started telling any and everyone I met that I had RA among other illness. So far I feel like the happiest person on the face of the earth just waiting for my prince to be set before me, and if he doesn't come along then atleast I haven't been lying to myself.

    margie   Smile

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    re: Complicated dating
    marbgonzales
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 at 12:48 AM

    I haven't dated since 2004 when I became sick with RA. I was feeling sorry for myself and trying to hide from the rest of the world until one day I made up my mind that if there was indeed a special man out there for me then God would place him in my path. I went ahead and started telling any and everyone I met that I had RA among other illness. So far I feel like the happiest person on the face of the earth just waiting for my prince to be set before me, and if he doesn't come along then atleast I haven't been lying to myself.

    margie   Smile

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    re: re: Complicated dating
    Sara Nash
    Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 09:16 PM

    what a great attitude! Cheers to that!

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  4. Having RA and dating!
    Joy928
    Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 06:20 PM

    You are such a good writer!  You captured my attention immediately and I could identify with you all the way.  Great message.  I also live in NYC but I'm Samantha + - yet, being diagnosed this year with RA really had an impact on my perception of life and life expectancy, life and work goals, and what is important to me and not important to me, as I go down this road.   I'm still working through the issues - but I'm becoming more aware of the stresses and other things that affect me and this disease.  What can I say?  It could be worse, it could be better.  But, it is what it is.  There are days when I just want to roll over and pull the covers over my head - but I force myself to plant my feet on the floor and get moving.  I have learned to treat myself to little pleasures - like - Dunkin Donuts coffee in the morning - and I don't care if it's good for me or not - I like it!  I believe if you don't treat yourself with little treats along the way - who will?  So I make sure I pamper myself - personal trainer at the gym, my hot silver convertible, - you know what I mean.

     

     I am a teacher and I find this is a very rewarding profession - I've had several others - but helping to mold a young mind, share life experiences that give guidance, and generally just being there, makes my days worthwhile.  And, of course, I am going to write the next greatest novel that will rock the world! 

    Rock on,

    Joyce

     

     

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    re: Having RA and dating!
    Sara Nash
    Saturday, June 13, 2009 at 04:48 PM

    Hi Joyce,

     

    I completely agree- treating yourself is so important, and doing things for yourself that help you feel good can make a big difference when you spend a lot of time feeling like crap. It's these little things that can have such a huge impact, especially when they add up.

     

    Take care,

    Sara

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  5. Hiding RA will come back to bite you
    Kelly Young
    Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 09:23 PM

    Hey Sara,

     

    I don't date because I'm married. Haha. I just loved your story and I was on the edge of my seat.

     

    After I thought it through I realized what you really need: a guy who really gets it and can give support and respect that you need and deserve. There is only one way to find a guy like that (and not be disappointed and stuck with someone who doesn't care or try to understand). You have to be yourself from minute one.

     

    I hope you don't take that the wrong way; I just think you and your happiness are worth it.

     

    Kelly Cool

    www.rawarrior.blogspot.com

     

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    re: Hiding RA will come back to bite you
    Sara Nash
    Saturday, June 13, 2009 at 04:49 PM

    Hi Kelly,

     

    I don't take that the wrong way at all- it's true.  I'm hoping my barometer for figuring out which guys are lame and which ones could be good contenders will get better. I clearly can't go through any more of these types of dates!

     

    Sara

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    re: Hiding RA will come back to bite you
    Nancy Johnson
    Thursday, July 09, 2009 at 02:05 PM

    I agree with Sara sooo much, honesty is the best policy. That sounds like my Mom talking!LOL  I have found that sharing the ends and outs about my everyday struggles with RA,  has brought me a whole new awareness of my friends, and of the people around me. I am new to the dating scene, after being with the same man for 33 yrs, and I know it's going to be rough. But you know what? It's rough for ALL women. Big, small, healthy, not so healthy.  That's just the way it is..but be true, because not being honest with others is not being honest with yourself.  And if we want people to become aware of our situation, then we have to claim it...not hide it.

     

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  6. Dating and RA
    tatagrn
    Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 10:49 PM

    Great post.. I know how you feel.. Luckily I got very lucky with my boyfriend. We talked on the phone for a few months before actually meeting and I decided to just tell him about my fibro and RA. He is a great guy and understood totally. He even took the initative before we met to look it up and research ra and learn more to understand. Now that we have met and been dating for five months he is truley a help. He has read up and talked to people about types of massage and things he can do to help me feel better when I hurt so bad. I think if you hit it off with someone, you should tell them. Not on the first date but when you are starting to spend more time together. I guess I am really lucky, I know not everyone can be so accepting. But with RA you will need to find someone understanding and willing to help. I wish you the best and hope you meet someone as I have.. Good Luck!!

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    re: Dating and RA
    Sara Nash
    Saturday, June 13, 2009 at 04:50 PM

    Thanks!  I love hearing about all of you who have found great people. 

     

    Sara

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    re: re: Dating and RA
    Kelly Young
    Saturday, June 13, 2009 at 04:59 PM

    Hey Sara! You hold out for the best. There's gotta be more out there like she found.Cool

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  7. Dating
    Kate
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 at 06:29 PM

    I still date, sort of.  I've been with my boyfriend for six years now.  At some point, I think we got married but nobody told us.  But, we still date.  Movie and dinner, or the fancy restaurant by the water...  So, while I'm not stuck with the awful task of finding someone I like, dating is still difficult.  Getting dressed up, walking in heels, and trying to look sexy, alluring, cute, whatever, is really difficult when I feel like an old hag.  Listening to someone, showing empathy, having a great conversation is difficult when "Ouch, ouch, ouch" is drowning out any other thought floating around in my head is challenging.  And, being limited to boring dates sucks too.  No more shooting range, paintballing, concerts, skiing, hiking or long walks on the beach.  Dating is hard when I've got someone who knows about the RA and who knows pretty much all there is to know about me, I can only imagine the added stress of having such a crappy seceret. 

     

    Kevin has been with me through every doctors visit, every blood draw, every misdiagnosis, and every failed treatment, crazy diet, emotional downfall and interrupted sleep cylces.  It's a blessing and a curse.  I am lucky to have someone to support me, but I am also burdened by it.  RA has not only effed my life up; it's effed his up as well.  And, I feel guilty for that.  But, ultimately, I am so happy to have someone there for me.  He no longer says he loves me.  He tells me, "I love you, no matter what", which is the best promise anyone could ever make someone with a life-long illness.  No matter what the medications do to me, how crippled I become, how un-sexy I can get, he's going to be there for me.  I hope everyone finds their "no matter what" guy (or "lady" for the men) too.

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    re: Dating
    Sara Nash
    Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 09:13 PM

    You sound like you got really lucky in the relationship dept, but i can absolutely see how being in a relationship would bring its own set of worries and hardships in figuring out how to deal with having your partner also become a caregiver. I guess it's complicated no matter what, huh.

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  8. you are so brave!
    Calamity Jane
    Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 12:30 AM

    Oh Sara, dearheart, this post really went to my heart.  I've done the exact same thing, with awful results, several times -- though not for several years now.  

     

    My last relationship, the deepest and most passionate I've ever had, ended after five years because he could not handle my disease.  When we met I was still fairly active, but then the RA began to get seriously worse, I became disabled, and much of my attention and focus, much of what I thought and talked about, shifted to how to handle my disease, my pain, my fear.

     

    And he just checked out.  This man who was really the love of my life was simply not there for me at all, and had no problem telling me so.  He told me that he didn't want to take care of anyone, and that he was tired of hearing about my health -- that it was all I ever talked about (not really true).

     

    So I lost him.  This was two years ago.  I'm not "over him" yet.  I don't suffer about it every day, but I do think about him every day, and miss him, and feel a little ashamed that I can't seem to "snap out of it."  

     

    We had utterly fantastic sex -- passionate and exciting and constantly arousing, and I discovered that there is NO better pain relief that wonderful sex.  I used to feel good the whole next day after a night with him.  And so I still have this lingering resentment that he took that away from me!  (pathetic, I know)   At one point a few months after we broke up I actually begged him to just have sex with me, no strings attached!  What a total loss of pride.

     

    Anyway -- I'm suspecting that I've told you this sad tale before, how embarrassing.

     

    What I meant to say is that my disability is now pretty severe, no hiding it, and I can't "pass" anymore.  I'm trying to believe that this might be a secret blessing.  Most days I really believe that my love/sex life is over, and I work to imagine and believe that this can be okay, that I can have a good life without the wonderful dream of a good man, a soul mate, ever coming true.  (After all, it rarely comes true, even for people who are perfectly healthy!)

     

    So listen:  don't fake it.  You're young and beautiful and smart and funny and kind -- sorry for the cliche, but you have so much to offer.  And this is an automatic screening device of course.  Any man who is turned off by the fact that you have RA is not someone who you'd want to be vulnerable with, or open to.  It's just not worth it.

    So hold out for that rare good man.  I have a strong feeling that he really will show up for you, probably when you least expect it.  

     

    You are so brave, so trust that.  Tell the truth, right from the start.  You can of course tell it in a lighthearted way, setting the guy at ease, not making a tragedy of it.  We really have to fight the stigma of living with an illness -- lord knows we have enough to deal with without that.

     

    My heart is with you honey.  Keep writing, keep imagining ways to present yourself honestly and fully with style, heart, intelligence.  Improvise!

     

    All the best,

    Susan (Calamity jane)

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    re: you are so brave!
    Kate
    Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 03:12 PM

    I am so sorry for what you have gone through.  Nothing I can say can sound remotely comforting compared to the loss.  I just wanted to say I'm sorry, feel for you, and hope you do find someone who will love you passionately and be strong enough to handle dealing with the disease.

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    re: re: you are so brave!
    Sara Nash
    Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 09:15 PM

    Susan, that post broke my heart for you!  I echo Kate's sentiments-I can't say anything that will make it better, but I'm thinking of you, and rooting for us both.  Thanks for all of your kind words and encouragement.

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    re: re: re: you are so brave!
    Calamity Jane
    Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 12:41 AM

    See why I love this website so much?  When I am feeling most along, and most down on myself, I check in here and never fail to end up feeling that I am strongly surrounded by others who are my exact same boat, and that in fact I am not really a weakling or a whiner!  (a thought that often haunts me, especially since in my local life here I don't know anyone else who has serious RA.)

     

    You all cheer me up everytime, and give me inspiration, humor, and energy to get up and try again another day -- and to remember all the good things that do in fact fill my life.  On my good days, I wouldn't trade my life for any other, and you all help me so much to remember that.

     

    Thanks, as always.  Sara, you're the best.  Hang in there.

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  9. Someone else who has walked in my shoes (AKA Birkenstocks)
    Kelly Conway
    Wednesday, July 08, 2009 at 12:13 AM

    Hi Sara,

     

    I can't tell you how thrilled I was when I came across your blog.  I've often googled "dating with ra" and found some bland articles.  I cried today when I realized that I am not alone.  I've always "known" this deep down and EVERYONE I know tells me how the "right guy will come along", but reading your story and the additional comments.....I am not alone in mucking through dating with RA.  It's a comfort (much like my Birkis)!

     

    I ended things with the "love of my life" (thus far, I hope!) three years ago.  He thought he was supportive of my illness.....but would question all my medications, accuse me of "faking" when I didn't want to do something he wanted (not true btw).  If he only knew of things that I really "faked"!!  LOL  He has now moved on and I am still searching the dating field.  I will be following your blog(s) along my dating travels.

     

    Thank you for putting a smile on my face with your humor and frankness.  I truly appreciate blogs.

     

    Kelly

     

     

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    re: Someone else who has walked in my shoes (AKA Birkenstocks)
    Kelly Conway
    Wednesday, July 08, 2009 at 12:15 AM

    oops!  I meant to say, I truly appreciate your blogs!

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    re: re: Someone else who has walked in my shoes (AKA Birkenstocks)
    Sara Nash
    Wednesday, July 08, 2009 at 02:02 PM

    Hey Kelly-

    Thanks for your comment!  I love knowing I"m not the only one dealing with this too.  Sounds like you are better off without the other guy if that was his version of being supportive.  I guess we can keep the faith together and just keep trying...

     

    Take care,

    sara

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  10. Dating and being rejected
    cat
    Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 02:44 PM

    Hi all! Here's my story:

    I met what I thought was a great guy on an internet dating site. We exchanged emails, talked on the phone and finally met for dinner.

    He told me he had practiced massage therapy and noticed that I was stretching a bit in my seat. Fact was, I had slept on my waaay to soft mattress and my back hurt. Apparently he is a complete health nut (and my guess paranoid) and our conversation eventually went into personal challenges.

    When I shared with him about my RA, he appeared to be fine with it. I was honest although I usually do not mention the RA on a first date.

    Dinner ended and he invited me out for a second date right then and there for the following evening. I left feeling happy that I had possibly met a winner. The next day he called and told me "honestly" how he had researched RA on the internet and just couldn't date me because of my illness. (Never mind that he's 10 years older than me and has high cohlesteral).

    He also said that his "intuition" revealed to him that my situation would change dramatically in 5 years. (Uh....what?) After thanking him for being brutally honest and not wasting my time, I let him know how sad it was that he did not get to know me before making such a judgement call. I also let him know how shallow he was and how grateful I was to know this before I invested any more time in him. 

    This is the first time I've been rejected like this and it really hurt my feelings. Not to mention his "intuition" comment that felt like some sort of a creepy hex. How rude and shallow. What a jerk, what a weirdo and what a waste of time. 

    When I found this site, I became excited to know what I wasn't alone although I'm sad for the stories of others similar to mine. I do know how you feel.

    I also know that there are good guys out there that will accept us and have depth of character. 

    Just wanted to share.

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    re: Dating and being rejected
    Sara Nash
    Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 02:48 PM

    ick! that comment about 'five years' was completely out of line!  what a jerk.  I love  your point about his high cholesterol.  Thanks for sharing this, and here's to all of us having better luck!

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    re: Dating and being rejected
    nelmont
    Saturday, August 29, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    Hi -- new to this but had to add a comment: it sounds to me (amateur psychologist that i am) that this guy came up with the 5 year thing to justify to *himself* why he couldn't "handle" your condition.  See might not be so bad now, but it could be totally awful in five years and then he'd be "stuck."  Jerk.

     

    Hope that helps

    Nicole

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