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acupuncture or massage therapy

By bucko27 Thursday, August 27, 2009

Hello all-

Well, the last 2 weeks have been interesting ones for me. First, my shoulder flared up. It was very painful and I couldn't sleep. Went to the doc and to my rheumy. The doc gave me "Michael Jackson" drugs for the pain and my rheumy put me on Lyrica.  As if I am not taking enough stuff already!!!   I decided to try a chiropractor.Never been to one before but she helped some but hard to tell if it was her or just time working for me.  In the meantime by compensating for the shoulder, my hip began to act up. More pain...more sleepless nights. I pretty much had a heating pad or ice on my body every minute for the last 2 weeks. Thank goodness I am a guy and have a high pain threshold! (<----He must be kidding, right?:-)
My wife got me to try a 2nd chiropractor and he has really helped. He used a different technique and seemed more knowledgeable about what to do. I guess like in everything else, some are better than others. Now I am feeling better and thinking about other alternative therapies.  What about acupuncture or massage therapy? Have any of you had success with these? I am curious to give them a try down the road. Massage therapy sounds like it would be wonderful.
Steve
PS: I am feeling much better now. What a relief to not be in constant chronic pain which totally wears you out!

Creaky joints
8/28/09 2:40pm

Hey Steve,

I hope that you continue to feel better. I have an appointment with an acupuncturist tomorrow. The main reason is for my shot neck & shoulder - "thank you, osteoarthritis". I have had previous experience with acupuncture that was not positive, so I'll keep you posted. 

 

Karen

8/28/09 3:16pm

Hi Steve,

I go for acupuncture periodically and find it usually helps to some degree.  I don't know that it changes the condition so much as kind of 'discharge' the nerve energy so the pain diminishes.  It can also help me with tension release/relaxation (ironic, isn't it?) and she can do specific things for sleep, so that indirectly can help with healing, I would say.  I believe there are different schools of acupuncture (my person uses traditional Chinese acupuncture) just as there are different varieties of massage therapy, and I'm sure the practitioners may also be more effective with one person than another.  It helps to tell them exactly how you are feeling and what the problems are.  The more specific you can be, the more they may be able to target the problem.

    I have a friend who goes to the same acupuncturist now BEFORE she goes to the doctor, because she feels it's more effective for her, and no drugs are used. 

    You may be told it can take a couple of treatments and you may feel worse before you feel better.  This can vary from patient to patient.  I'm fortunate in that I respond fast, but more recently I find that, at first, I may not think it helped (immediately after), but after a day or so, there seems to be a definite 'clearing out' of the troubling symptom(s).  So - for me it is very helpful, but I don't use it as a first-line treatment.  It's especially good for me when I'm just worn-down, tired and discouraged - it gives me a definite boost.

    Good luck!

9/ 1/09 2:46pm

Thanks karen!  Please do keep me posted.  I would like to try it at some point.

-S-

9/ 1/09 2:51pm

Ellen- Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Hey, is acupuncture covered by health insurance?

Steve

 

9/ 1/09 3:50pm

It is not generally covered, as far as I know.  However, there are sometimes ways to get around that.  If you have a "flex" plan - where you have money withheld to be used for medical expenses and then apply for reimbursement, you can sometimes get reimbursement that way.  I have done that on a couple of occasions.  Some doctors are also willing to give you a prescription for acupuncture on a limited basis. If it's in a 'script' that may help it get covered, but not guaranteed. (Works better in flex plan.) In addition, there is sometimes a licensed MD who has been trained in acupuncture and other 'complementary therapies' and this may also be a possibility (I have not done this myself - I don't know of one around where I live). 

    An acupuncture appointment where I live costs $50-$60 per session.  Not cheap, but a lot cheaper than a specialist of some other variety, and worth a try if you're really hurting!

Lene Andersen, Health Guide
8/31/09 11:24pm

I hate to tell you this, but as a person with RA, you need to be very careful about using chiropractic care. The damage that RA causes in your joints can make them more fragile and chiropractic adjustments can cause serious damage. However, I can highly recommend both acupuncture and massage (particularly shiatsu massage) - I've used both for years and they have been a beyond valuable part of managing pain and making me feel better in general.

9/ 1/09 2:56pm

Lene- I hadn't thought about damaging my joints but I will now.  The second chiropractor I went to didn't do any of that joint cracking stuff.  I am feeling much better and plan to get back to the gym and also do some swimming.  I feel weak from lying around so much the past few weeks.  I will start slow. Innocent  

Steve

9/ 3/09 10:33am

I have RA and have been seeing a massage therapist for about 7 years. At first I went 1 x a month, but as my RA progressed I found I could manage the pain by getting a massage weekly. This is not the "feel good smooze" but a deep tissue massage. It helps keep me flexible. Since I also have degenerative disk disease I have problems with my L5/ S1 and nerves, this helps also to relieve pressure in that area.

Anonymous
Jackie Carney
9/ 3/09 3:25pm

Hi Steve:  Yes.  I have tried both and they work great but I don't believe either of them are long term solutions.  What I have done and has worked tremendously for me in Prolotherapy.  I also have degenerative disc disease in my neck as well as RA.  But the Prolotherapy has done wonders for me.  It is hard to explain here but if you google it, it will explain it.  I couldn't even get out of bed when I first went to this doctor.  I am not on any biologics or any of the Rheum. Drugs.  I am mostly using all natural things but I do take something called LDN.  Low Dose Naltrexone.  You can also google that also.  Hope this helps.  Jacki 

9/19/09 10:24pm

The major thing wrong with getting massage therapy is that most insurance companies will NOT COVER it or any PART of it.  I would deffinately do so much better with regular deep tissue massage for the osteoarthritis in my spine and muscle spasms around my shoulders and my doctors agree.  It is not covered because it is considered a luxury or something and not at all medically validated.  humpf

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