Newly Diagnosed with RA and looking to connect to others

By Jamie Saturday, February 21, 2009

Hi RAngels.  I am so happy to have found this incredible web site.  I have been reading the posts for awhile now and am so impressed with everyone's stories and support for one another.  As my title reads, I was finally diagnosed with RA on January 27th, 2009.  Like many of you, I knew I had it.  I had a flu-like illness a couple of years ago with some pain and swelling in my fingers.  I had also been suffering from progressive morning stiffness.  My doctor ordered labs and all the auto immune markers came back negative and he dismissed it.  This past September I again felt a flu-like illness.  This time much more severe.  I had never experienced such sheer and utter fatigue.  I told my husband I simply could not take another step and went to bed at 4pm in the afternoon.  I did not get up until 9am the next day.  My fingers began swelling and hurting, then my toes, then my wrists, ankles, knees, SI Joints, cervical spine.  By mid-October I could hardly use my hands anymore as they were so stiff and painful.  I saw my primary care Doctor and talked her into giving me a 6 week course of prednisone as I was in such agony. Again, immmune testing came back negative but I had a phenomenal positive response to the prednisone. Within a week I could move my fingers again and the pain was vastly improved.  Finally, I got in to see a rheumatologist in November.  My Rheumatoid Factor came back positive this time but barely.  I went back on Jan. 27th for my second visit with the rheumy and he diagnosed it as seronegative RA even though my rheumatoid factor came back positive because he says that while it is positive he feels it is on the "cusp" as it is low.  Rheumy put me on 500mg of Sulfasalazine one daily to be titrated up to three daily over a 2 week period. It was a relief to finally get the diagnosis but still devastating.  The rheumy basically gave me the prescription, said this should calm it down and said good-bye.  I left with a million questions about the prognosis, treatment, how am I going to cope with this illness.  I left without being given any tools, hope or information.  The doctor told me how burned out he was, he doesn't make enough money, his back is killing him, he dumped all of his life problems on me.  I felt like I should be treating him and my illness/needs weren't met! The office staff is very cold, uncaring and downright nasty to patients.  This web site and others have been filling in the cavernous gap left by my medical "care". 

 

 I finally got up the nerve to write my first post today.   I am looking to connect with others, learn from you what helps, coping skills.  I am a pharmacist who is currently a stay at home Mother to two sons ages 10 and 13. Luckily, my medical background has helped me tremendously and I have been researching RA daily.  At this early point in my illness I am in a state of disbelief, grief, guilt and depression.  I read HollyBGroovin's lovely letter to the Newly Diagnosed and cried.  It felt like she had a hidden camera in my home.  How did she know how much I struggle just to get out of bed!  I constantly fight the battle of just wanting to curl up in a ball with the covers over my head and never get up.  I have told no one this, not even my husband.  I have always been a strong, hard working health care professional who cares for everyone else who is sick.  I am 44 and look healthy, my pain doesn't show on the outside and others, including my family just don't get how much pain/fatigue/stiffness I suffer from.   If I were a Christmas tree and my pain were the christmas lights I would be so brightly lit from head to toe it would be blinding.  I am grieving the loss of my old self and just want my life back.  I have been living in a surreal survival mode and wouldn't get out of bed if it weren't for gettting the kids off to school.

2/21/09 8:51pm

Hi Jamie,

 

I'm so sorry to hear you have RA, but glad that you have found this site for support.  I can certainly relate to your journey thus far, and I am sure that many others on this site do as well.  The diagnosis and the physical and emotional changes that RA thrusts upon us can be pretty fearsome, but you have many tools with which to fight back.  Information, support, networking, and inner grit will carry you a long way.

 

I have heard others say and I concur (thus far) that the first year with RA is the hardest.  By the time one gets the RA diagnosis usually the RA is very active, and active RA is hard.  So to the pain, stiffness and fatigue add not knowing what is happening, a brand new scarey diagnosis, and suddenly being unable to function and you have an almost overwhelming mix of challenges.  But it is simply that, a big old huge challenge, and it can be met with courage, humor, and as many members of this site demonstrate, considerable style.  

 

I'm glad that you have gotten started on meds and have a rheumy, albeit one who totally missed the boat in regards to meeting the needs of  a newly diagnosed RA patient (yeach!).  There is a lot of good info available on this site, and on others sites as well.  I also like the web sites of Johns Hopkins, ACR, and one called Creaky Joints, which has some fun off beat humor for those times when you need a wry smile. If your experience is anything like mine, I felt terrible with all that active inflammation, but once the disease was under better control I began to feel a whole lot better.

 

Like you, I have seronegative RA and have worked in health care for many years (I am an RN). RA has changed my life a lot, but life is still good and I am adapting to the changes that RA has brought.  I have had RA (diagnosed anyway) for almost two years now.  When I was diagnosed I was started on prednisone and methotrexate, and now am on Enbrel as well.  Like you, I have spent countless hours looking for answers and support.  I firmly believe that knowlege is power, and in that old adage, "If we don't hang together we will surely hang separately." So I'm looking forward to hanging with you! Smile

 

Take care,

 

Josephine

  

2/23/09 4:55pm

Josephine,

 

Thank you so much for your post reply.  I am so glad I finally posted, I am getting such great information and feedback.  For instance, I didn't know that the first year was the hardest.  I keep thinking it's downhill from here. 

 

I got a terrific sense of appreciation for just how much inflammation I have when I took the course of Prednisone.  It's the gold standard for an anti-inflammatory but cannot be taken for long periods of time.  I felt so much better, pain scores improved, stiffness improved, fatigue improved.  The only drawback was the 14 pounds I gained on it.  It has been a slow degradation back to pre-prednisone pain levels since then.

 

I will certainly look up those web sites you gave me too.  Being well informed is the key to success in this illness.  What is the ACR one?

 

How old were you when diagnosed?  Anyone in your family that also has it?  My maternal grandmother and her mother both had it.  I helped care for them as a little girl and have bad memories of how much they suffered with it.  They started in their mid-forties also.  I know logically that we have much better therapies now but I still worry that I will end up like them.

 

Are you taking mtx with your Enbrel?  Still taking prednisone too?  How much better do you feel on the Enbrel?  Does is help you with pain/stiffness and fatigue or does one symptom improve more than others?

 

Looking forward to learning more from you,

 

JamieSmile

2/26/09 10:16pm

Hi Jamie,

 

Let me see if I can answer all of your questions.  ACR is the American College of Rheumatology.  Their URL is www.rheumatology.org.

 

I was diagnosed at age 51, and I am now 53.  Most people think that I am still in my forties except on bad days, and then I probably look my age and feel a whole lot older!  Looking back, my rheumy thinks that I likely develped RA at age 35, but the bilateral knee pain and inflammation that I experienced back then was attributed to overuse and mal-alignment (I was an ardent cyclist) and the mild anemia and fatigue attributed to menstruation and busy lifestyle -I was working, going to grad school, and looking after our small farm on top of riding my bike 50 to 100 miles per week!  None of my docs, and I saw several, ever mentioned the possbility of seronegative RA, and it did not occur to me because by hands were fine and despite being a nurse I didn't realize that seronegative RA can present as fatigue and bilateral knee pain!

 

My cousin had RA (sadly he passed away last year from an MI at age 64) and since I have been diagnosed one of my nieces has also been diagnosed with RA and her old sister with psoriasis.  My mom had raynauld's syndrome and based on her symptoms I think she may have had soegrens as well, but the latter was never diagnosed by her small town MD.  She passed away in 2002 from a stroke so I'll never really know.

 

I know what you mean about being frightened by watching earlier generations suffer with RA.  It scares me too but I keep reminding myself that there is much better treatment available now and that good management will give us the opportunity for much better outcomes.  But yes, once you've seen bad RA it does scare the bejeezus out of you when you are told that you have it too! 

 

I was started out on a lot of prednisone.  I posted my story on "First Year with RA and Unsure of the Future" if you'd like to read the gorey details.  Once I got into see the rheumy we started methotrexate and began weaning prednisone.  When the RA got worse we added Enbrel and a year later I am still weaning prednisone.  I am down to 1 mg daily at present.  I found the Enbrel extremely helpful.  It helped with the fatigue first, then pain, and last of all the stiffness.  My rheumy wants me to get off the prednisone entirely (so do I, so do I!) and then hopefully feel good and prevent further damage with the Enbrel Methotrexate combo.

 

Its hard for me to quantify how much relief I've gotten from the Enbrel.  Do I feel better?  Yes, tons!  Am I back to where I was prediagnosis? No, not yet, but I haven't given up hope!  I still have some pain, stiffness, and fatigue, but it is sooo much better than it was.

 

So I hope that gives you some hope.  If you read my earlier post you'll get a good feel for where I was last year, and if you read through the comments you'll see how I did get better and better as my meds took hold and the inflammation came under control.  Keep reading, seeking support, and find a good rheumy, and I think that you will get better too as your inflammation comes under better control and you and your doc learn how to manage your RA.

 

Take care!

 

Josephine

3/ 3/09 9:34pm

Hi Josephine,

 

How was your week last week?  I think mine was better.  I actually had two really good days in a row. Yippee!  Perhaps my meds are kicking in.

 

Thank you for answering all my questions.  I can see why you were difficult to diagnose at first.  You sure were active and the biking can certainly cause some knee pain.  Mine was definitely more the flu-like syndrome with mulitple joint involvement right away.  I used to be an avid runner & skiier.  Now I wince just thinking about doing those things.

 

It is nice to know in what order the symptoms responded to Enbrel.  On my two good days I had more energy and I thought to myself, wow, this is what it feels like to have energy and not have everything be such a chore.  I was beginning to think I was just getting lazy but clearly I get my old drive and interests back when I can get even a little bit of relief. 

 

I started keeping a pain journal that I found on the American Pain Foundation web site and that has really helped.  Right now I am trying to find my boundaries on what is too much and will make me suffer come night time if I do too much.  I have discovered that I have about 5  good hours in the middle of the day.  Have you ever come across an RA personal health journal?  I've been looking for one.

 

I would like to go back on a low dose of prednisone until I respond to sulfasalazine.  I get so much relief from it.  However not happy about the weight gain.  You still take 1 mg? 

 

Have a great week!

 

jamie

 

When your Dr. decided you needed Enbrel, how bad had your health become?  More joints affected, more severe pain & stiffness?  My daily functionality is so poor at this point.  I am lucky to bathe or brush my teeth. 

 

Glad you have your horses.  I have my first little dog and she is such a great companion.  She lies right next to me when I am napping or laying on my heating pad. 

3/ 4/09 12:36pm

Hi Jamie,

 

I've had a pretty good week, thanks.  We had a big snowstorm (well, big by southern standards!) and very cold weather so that has been a challenge.  The hardest part were two nights without power so that the only heat we had was from our fireplace.  My joints really started to hurt but I was able to get through it and its warming up and the power came back on yesterday so life is good!  I can't imagine living in Canada during the winter with RA.  I guess you are more prepared for the cold than we are with better heating systems, insulation, warm clothes and all that.  My husband doesn't even have his snow boots anymore.  He gave them away when we moved to the south.  I'm so glad that I kept mine!

 

There is an RA Activity Minder on http://www.hopkins-arthritis.org.  I haven't used it so I can't recommend or not recommend it.

 

I was feeling pretty bad by the time we went to Enbrel.  I wish we had started it sooner.  I think that my primary care doctor had put me on so much prednisone that it masked the more obvious S/S of RA.  But then it took me a long time to get the prednisone dosage down and it wasn't until I was on a lower dose that it became obvious that I indeed did have RA. 

 

I'm still on 1 mg Prednisone.  My rheumy said to wean very slowly at this point because my adrenal glands have been suppressed for a long time, so its slow going at this point.  At the higher doses I was weaning 2.5 mgs at a time, usually over 2 - 3 weeks, but now its .25 mg over 3-4 weeks.  The weaning process has been made even longer by periodic flares that required higher doses of Prednisone to control.  For a long time it felt like one step forward, two steps back.  Getting on the Enbrel really gave me some traction.  I mark it has a real turning point for me, even though it took a good three months for it to really take full effect.  Apparently some people respond much more quickly.

 

I know what you mean about prednisone.  I hate the side effects but is uncontrolled inflammation any better?  So we opted to control inflammation and protect my bones with calcium and fosamax.  Fortunately I didn't gain very much weight, only about 5 pounds, but I know that my body composition has changed.  On the higher doses I got really buzzed, and had a hard time concentrating and sleeping, so we had to add ambien as well.  I started to feel like my pharmacist was my best friend!  Seemed like I was always showing up with a new Rx and a bunch of questions.  He was great though, very patient and looked up everything in his database.  I really think that pharmacists are the unsung heroes of health care.

 

Keep working with your doc to manage that inflammation.  Are you taking fish oil?  Any progress on finding a new rheumy?  Mine is a good guy, very bright and a good thinker, cheerful and optimistic although not a hold your hand sort of guy, and very accessable, so overall I've feel lucky to have him.  The harest part was having to wait two months for my first appointment, because all of the rheumys around here have long waiting lists.  

 

Have a good week, I hope you continue to feel better!

 

Josephine 

  

 

2/22/09 1:14am

Hello Jamie,

 

My name is Theresa and I have also been recently diagnoised with RA.  It's been difficult for me due to the unknown and not having anyone to talk to that understands.  I too hide my emotions and health condition from my family and friends.  I don't want them to see me as a complainer or feel to feel sorry for me. 

 

Like now it's hard for me to get to sleep to night due to the pain in my bones.  I work full-time as a Case Manager and have to visit Clients in their homes.  Getting in and out of the car is sometimes difficult as well as driving.  The cold weather doesn't make it any better.  My Supervior has been very understanding and this has been such a great help.  I came to find this website after searching for some others who are like myself.  Hope this website can be helpful and would like to be a listener for other's as well.

 

Theresa

2/23/09 5:11pm

Theresa,

 

I am so sorry you have been recently diagnosed also.  When was your diagnosis?  What meds are you taking?  Do you trust and like your physician?

 

This is a good place for those of us who don't like to burden our families.  We can safely talk to one another and everyone understands.  I moved from the US to Canada a year ago.  I don't have any family but at least I had friends in the US.  I am newly married (2nd marriage) to a Canadian and was supposed to be living my dream life in Whistler, a ski resort village in the mountains.  Unfortunately, this is about the worst climate I can be in with this disease and I am very isolated here.  Making contact with people like you who understands what we go through is going to be very therapeutic for me.  You can tell me how much you hurt at night.  I can relate to that also.  I joints were throbbing last night.  I sleep with a heating pad on my low back and get up around 3 am for an ice pack for my shoulder.  A long acting pain medicine before helps tremendously and because it is long acting my mornings are not as bad as I still have some in my system.  You can talk to your Dr. about it.

 

Take good care of yourself Theresa.

 

Jamie

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LINDA
2/22/09 10:13am

Hi and i know we all wish you the best  , my mother wants to know what medicine youve decided to use for your RA

2/23/09 5:21pm

Thank you for the good wishes Linda.

 

I let my rheumatologist choose what he thought I should start on as I am just so ill right now I just want to be a patient.  He chose Sulfasalazine and to continue the Celebrex I was taking.  I believe he chose Sulfasalazine because it is one of the most well tolerated and least heavy side effects.  I was supposed to add 500mg every 5 days until I was up to 1500mg (3 tabs).  However, I began vomiting at two tablets daily, a common side effect.  If this happens you just titrate up at 4 week intervals instead.  I am now at two tablets and so far no nausea or vomiting but also no improvement yet.  I am going to see another rheumatologist at the end of March as I didn't care for the one I have and I will see what he thinks while I do more research.

 

Cheers,

 

Jamie

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Tracy M
2/22/09 11:24am

Hi Jamie,

 

This is my first post on this site, although I have been reading posts for a couple of months now. Your story is so similiar to mine I felt I finally had to write! I am also  seronegative RA, and was devastated when my doppler ultrasound confirmed the presence of damage in my fingers and wrists, thus confirming my RA...I realized I had been living with an unconcious hope that it was not really there since I didnt have the RH factor!

 

Like you, I had a few episodes of flu like symptoms over the past year or so, incredible fatigue and just feeling like everything ached and hurt. I am also 44 and was very confused by my lack of energy. I finally went for a physical in September last year and was diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes ( my Dad is a diabetic, so I wasn't that surprized, but devastated none the less ) This was then  followed  by abnormal mammograms that sent me into a series of testing and an unsuccessfull biopsy....still sorting that out! In the meantime I noticed a lump developing on my middle finger and increasing stiffness and swelling in my hands. Having sufferred carpal tunnel for 10 years, I mentioned it to my Dr. but thought it was just part of the carpel tunnel. When he decided to test for RA  and Lupus I was stunned and then so relieved when the antibodies came back negative!

Little did I now that my elavate sed rate told a different story. He referred me to a wonderful Rheumatologist, who then embarked on test after test.She diagnosed osteoarthritis and RA. I started on methotrexate and plaquenil on Xmas Day. I chose not to take the prednisone at this stage because of the risk of elavating my blood sugar levels too high, so I am trying to cope with the pain using otc pain meds. She is going to start me on immuno suppressants in the next few weeks. I have had a lot of nausea which I presume is from the metho, and have lost a lot of weight.

 

 I hate taking all these meds and injections and sometimes feel like a hundred years old. It can all be very depressing as I love to dance and ride horses, garden and generally be active...I have two teenage children and we travel a lot. I have found some solace corresponding with my sister in law in Africa, who suffers from Lupus and is on all the same meds as me! She has encouraged me to find sites such as this and to begin sharing. It can be a lonely club to be in at times. Many people do not understand this disease and how unpredicatable it can be. I am hopeful we have diagnosed this early enough to minimize damage, but it can be scary looking ahead. Having an understanding rheumy is a must! Make sure you are the one getting the help and you dont end up being the caregiver to your Rhuemy! It sounds like he was not very in touch with his caring

side!

 

 

I would love to continue contact with you and anyone else out there....stay strong.

 

Tracy M

2/24/09 4:43pm

Hi Tracy,

 

We do have similar stories.  I am shocked but comforted to find people like you.  It helps me to not feel so crazy and like a hypochondriac.  I just can't believe how utterly devastating this illness is.  In "meeting" other RAngels out there I am also shocked and saddened to hear so many of us also suffer with many other serious health issues or injuries.  You also have the diabetes now to contend with.  Are you on oral meds. for that at this time? 

It sounds like you are just on the methotrexate and waiting for new meds.  Let me know which one your doctor prescribes for you.  My sulfasalazine also caused nausea and vomiting as I tried increasing my dose.  I have found that increasing it more slowly has successfully cured that.  I have only been on it since Feb. 1 and am still waiting for a response.  I would not be able to survive without my pain medication, I went to a pain clinic in the States where I was treated with respect and kindness and given good medication.  You will find that most Doctors won't willing give it and you have to ask. 

  We moved to Whistler, BC, Canada a little over a year ago.  It was to be my paradise.  I love being outdoors, biking & hiking.  I skiied 40 days last year, I had fatigue and stiffness but pushed myself.  What a difference a year can make.  I feel like I am 100 years old now.  I have so much pain and stiffness in the mornings, get a little reprieve in the afternoons, then am exhausted and in pain again by early evening.  When my husband wants to plan an outing I secretly cringe because I don't know how I will be feeling.  I have stopped making any commitments to do anything.  The saddest part is my children.  I feel like a terrrible Mother.  They recently commented that I don't like to do anything anymore or go anywhere.  That hurt me.  It's true.  I can't interact with them and care for them the way I used to.  They pour themselves a bowl of cold cereal for breakfast when I used to a nice hot breakfast every morning.  I am hurting and too tired to play a board game.  The oldest now helps with the youngest.  My husband is out of town 50% of the time or more so I am a single parent trying to cope.

I agree with you, it is important to have a good rheumy and I am going to see a new one at the end of March.  There is no way I want to stay with the one I have.

When did you get your diagnosis?

 

How are you feeling today?

 

Take Good Care of Yourself,

 

jamie

 

2/24/09 6:30pm

Hi Jamie'

 

I hope you have had a good day? Mine has been another day of frustration as I have been too nauseus to accomplish much. I took my metho last night and the next day is always hard to stomach anything. I am also on the Plaquenil, which doesnt sit well in my stomach unless I have eaten something! Catch 22!

 

I got confirmation of my diagnosis a month ago, but had already started these meds on Xmas day, as she was pretty certain I had it. I am supposed to be on prednisone as well, but opted not to take it because of the diabetes, which I am controlling through diet and excecise at this point. My glucose levels put me just into the diabetic range at 136. My GP didnt want to try meds yet, although I may have to now with the RA complicating things. I am coping with the pain so far using topical Voltaren emulgel or otc aleve or advil. Effectiveness varies, and I am finding I am now waking up during the night with severe shoulder pain. I have also begun experiencing severe back pain which makes it hard to stand upright for any length of time. My Rhuemy said it was too early for me to be experiencing pain in my back from the RA, but I dont know what else it could be!!! Have you had that? It seems to hit right between the shouder blades and makes me just want to cave!

 

I know how you feel about not being able to do things for your kids...mine are teenagers who are pretty self reliant, but i would still like to feel like I can do things for them when they do need me..My house is getting progressivly more unkempt as i dont have the energy to drag out the vacuum or clean the bathrooms. I cant stand it!

 

I know just how you feel about being a single parent, my husband travels  3/4 days every week too and that creates more tensions and frustrations. We have 5 horses at home that we take care of ourselves, so I have to go out and move 60lb bales of hay etc when he is not home - very exhausting at times. but i do love the horses and taking care of them can be very theraputic - you just cant worry about yourself when around them. My horse nuzzles me and seems to zone in on my areas of hurt - quite amazing really.

 

I recently started seeing a therapist to deal with some other issues in my life, something I have never done before, and I have found her to be a great deal of help in dealing with my diagnosis as well. I have so many worries about being a burden to my husband and family, and just today she helped me start putting it into persective and realizing the need for me to concentrate at this time on taking care of myself first and how this will ultimatley be the best gift I can give to my family. Easier said than done but worth trying to do.

 

I am so glad to hear you will be trying another Doctor. SO very important to have a good relationship with someone who effectively has control over the quality of your life meds wise! I am due to see mine in a few weeks and we will then start with the immunosuppressants....dont know which one yet.

 

I am so pleased to have made contact with you. I do not know anyone with this disease around here,so it can be very lonely at times. This is a great tool to help us cope!

 

Take care and I look forward to hearing from you soon

 

Tracy

2/26/09 10:37pm

Hi Tracy,  Josephine here.

 

I read your comments and just wanted to mention that I am also a horse lover!  I have two and they are my equine therapists!  Like you, I have to go take care of them even when I don't want to move and I credit them with helping me keep my mobility and strength.  They also boost my spirits and keep me trying.  Both horses have some degree of arthritis too so we are the creaky bunch around here and we all support one another!

 

In regards to your back pain.  Has your doctor checked out your heart?  Not to scare you, but that always should be investigated.  If your heart is okay, I'd suggest the Alexander Technique for your back pain.  It helps me a great deal. You can find a teacher through www.amsat.ws.

 

Take care,

 

Josephine

2/27/09 5:10pm

Hi Josephine

 

Thank you for the advice! I am going to see my doc on tuesday and so  will be sure to ask him about my heart. It is the one thing it seems we havent checked yet!! I would really like to know whether this back issue is RA related or not as it is becoming quite disabling at times.

 

A fellow horsey person! Are you still able to ride? I had recently taken up  riding lessons again, after having sent the past few years as a horse show mom and riding only occasionally. Now with the RA diagnosis I fear that I will have to give it up at some point and I am not ready to entertain that thought. I now have to knot the reins to keep a grip on them, or they just slide through my hands. My husband bought me an Australian saddle to try instead of my English saddle, as it has more support - it feels like a couch! Very strange!

 

Thanks for making contact!

TracyM

2/27/09 11:37pm

Hi Tracy,

 

Yes, I have been able to ride some.  I did not ride for several months last year.  I just didn't feel up to it and had too much pain.  The day I climbed back into the saddle was a huge victory for me - how very symbolic to be literally back in the saddle!!!  Right now my old reliable mare has been sidelined with lameness (I can so relate!) and my gelding is so much horse I am thinking that either I need to send him for some training or find a different horse for myself.  I really don't want to fall because I'm afraid of hurting myself now that I'm not as sound as I used to be.  Wink  As the weather improves I'm going to do some ground work with him and see if he won't settle down.  He's a pretty spirited TB and has had way too much time off.

 

I had quite a bit of back pain when my inflammation levels were high, even though I technically don't have arthritis in my spine either.  All of my joints hurt, not just the ones that had shown arthritic changes.  I think that I was moving less overall and in strange ways to try and protect the joints and that made my back hurt even more.  Once the inflammation was under control and I began moving better my back began to feel a whole lot better.  And the Alexander Technique was a godsend.

 

I hope you are able to keep riding, and by all means, make whatever changes you need to in tack and equipment.  I never used to use a mounting block except on really tall horses, and now its an essential piece of equipment just to get on my little 14.3 hand mare!  Happy trails!

3/ 3/09 10:11pm

Hi Tracy,

 

Sorry it took me so long to respond because I too am glad to have made contact with you.  It has been very lonely for me as well as I don't know anyone in my new community and I try not to burden my immediate family.

 

So we both have traveling spouses and children at home.  Mine are boys 10 & 13.  I finally told them about my illness as they could see something was very wrong with mom.  They are so sweet they have become very helpful.  The 13 yo even helps with cooking and opening containers for me.  My husband has been doing most all the cooking when he is home.  I hate to say it but I now look for packaged foods and make the simplest boxed dinners when my husband is away.  Tonight it's french fries and some left overs, maybe Kraft Mac & Cheese tomorrow!  I didn't shower, get out of my sweat pants or put on a stitch of make-up today.  Gee, I can't remember if I even brushed my teeth.  I find that I just "let down" and rest when he is gone.  I try so hard to be active and hide my pain on the days he is home that I am exhausted by Tuesday when he leaves again.  Sound familiar?  Maybe we can help each other by sharing ideas we have.  The other thing I do now is make their school lunches and the morning coffee at night since mornings are so difficult for me.

 

Has your MTX or Plaquenil had any response at all.  Taking your MTX tomorrow?

 

Yes, I have a lot of pain in my back too.  Mine is not in the middle (thoracic) like yours.  It's in my neck and very very low back.  But then I have had 3 whip lash neck injuries, the last one 4 months before the RA came on.  I also have it in my jaw.  I've been getting up at 3am every morning to get an ice pack for my shoulder pain too.  But it was from a very bad fall on it 3 weeks ago.  I noticed that the severe shoulder pain definitely caused my RA to ratchet up a couple of notches too.  Part of the pain/inflammation cycle.  I sleep every night with a heating pad on my low back and usually take several breaks a day where I lay on it.  I pray that I don't now get RA problems in this shoulder.

 

Glad you are seeing a therapist.  I don't have health insurance right now (long story) so friends like you are my therapy till I can go.  I have had lots in the past for other things.  She is right about us needing to take  care of ourselves first.  I always make New Year's Resolutions.  So this year I put each family member's name down in my journal and began to think about what I could do for each one of them.  The list was overwhelming and I finally realized that that was an insane way to do it.  I decided that the best thing I could do for all of them was to take care of myself! Easier said than done, just like you say.  So now I take a nap when I need to, I let things get messy, I let others help me.  It's a slow guilt laden process but I'm trying too.

 

Glad you have your horses to keep you going but I don't know how you lift those bales.  I have a 9 month old puppy that is my little companion.  She is my very first dog and such a joy.  

 

Let me know how you are doing this week.

 

Jamie

3/ 3/09 10:11pm

Hi Tracy,

 

Sorry it took me so long to respond because I too am glad to have made contact with you.  It has been very lonely for me as well as I don't know anyone in my new community and I try not to burden my immediate family.

 

So we both have traveling spouses and children at home.  Mine are boys 10 & 13.  I finally told them about my illness as they could see something was very wrong with mom.  They are so sweet they have become very helpful.  The 13 yo even helps with cooking and opening containers for me.  My husband has been doing most all the cooking when he is home.  I hate to say it but I now look for packaged foods and make the simplest boxed dinners when my husband is away.  Tonight it's french fries and some left overs, maybe Kraft Mac & Cheese tomorrow!  I didn't shower, get out of my sweat pants or put on a stitch of make-up today.  Gee, I can't remember if I even brushed my teeth.  I find that I just "let down" and rest when he is gone.  I try so hard to be active and hide my pain on the days he is home that I am exhausted by Tuesday when he leaves again.  Sound familiar?  Maybe we can help each other by sharing ideas we have.  The other thing I do now is make their school lunches and the morning coffee at night since mornings are so difficult for me.

 

Has your MTX or Plaquenil had any response at all.  Taking your MTX tomorrow?

 

Yes, I have a lot of pain in my back too.  Mine is not in the middle (thoracic) like yours.  It's in my neck and very very low back.  But then I have had 3 whip lash neck injuries, the last one 4 months before the RA came on.  I also have it in my jaw.  I've been getting up at 3am every morning to get an ice pack for my shoulder pain too.  But it was from a very bad fall on it 3 weeks ago.  I noticed that the severe shoulder pain definitely caused my RA to ratchet up a couple of notches too.  Part of the pain/inflammation cycle.  I sleep every night with a heating pad on my low back and usually take several breaks a day where I lay on it.  I pray that I don't now get RA problems in this shoulder.

 

Glad you are seeing a therapist.  I don't have health insurance right now (long story) so friends like you are my therapy till I can go.  I have had lots in the past for other things.  She is right about us needing to take  care of ourselves first.  I always make New Year's Resolutions.  So this year I put each family member's name down in my journal and began to think about what I could do for each one of them.  The list was overwhelming and I finally realized that that was an insane way to do it.  I decided that the best thing I could do for all of them was to take care of myself! Easier said than done, just like you say.  So now I take a nap when I need to, I let things get messy, I let others help me.  It's a slow guilt laden process but I'm trying too.

 

Glad you have your horses to keep you going but I don't know how you lift those bales.  I have a 9 month old puppy that is my little companion.  She is my very first dog and such a joy.  

 

Let me know how you are doing this week.

 

Jamie

3/ 4/09 11:32am

Dear Jamie!

 

Great to hear from you! I can relate so well to what you experience with your husband travelling. My husband just left this morning and I was hanging (literaly) onto the edge of the sink trying to wash dishes without my back caving in...waiting for him to leave so I could collapse on the couch! Am still in my jammies and probably wont make it out of them today...

 

I am glad your boys are helping out, I have a 14 yr old son and he is more cooperative about helping move bales of hay etc now that he understands my condition. My 17 yr old daughter is quietly helpful and doesnt make a big deal, she just goes ahead and opens jars, offers to cook dinner etc. They are wonderful. Its is hard to accept help I know, but we just have to learn to do it I guess.

 

I take my metho shot every monday evening and I find it gives me the shakes...do you get shakey hands? For the next few days my hands tremor. It may also be anxiety as right now I am dealing with another medical issue with a breast lump. I am due for surgery  to remove it and get a final answer as to what we may be dealing with. It never rains it pours! I am so tired of all these constant dr apptmnts! For someone who never saw a dr for 8 years, I am certainly making up for it now!

 

I think i might try the heating pad idea for my shoulder...I injured it excercising a few weeks ago and ever since have had terrible pain - mostly at night. Waking up several times because of it. Strangly enough it is not so bad during the day...anyone know why that happens? I am also worried about whether injuries can spark an RA flare...i get different opinions from various drs. To me it would make biological sense that it would set up a flare because of the inflammation cycle.

 

I am so happy to have made contact with you and other RAngels...it is a great source of support and therapy for us all just being able to share. Please stay in touch. I dont know how to correspond through the profiles? Do you? I set up a profile but dont know how you would access mine or I yours?

 

Take care and have a good RA day

Tracy

Anonymous
colleen
2/22/09 7:13pm

hi My name is Colleen. i have RA and lupus also. I was diagnosed over a year ago. but  i was sero negative too. I struggle with extreme pain in all my joints and my spine all the time. I live on pain meds and  2 other meds for nerve ending pain and anti depressant for pain also. I have seen every Dr over 3 yrs time.

Its good to find out other people have same problems. well i am not happy about that but its comforting to know i am not alone.

many days i cant get out of bed and cant get to pain meds fast enough.

i was on humira for a couple of months and had to go off due to reaction. i have also been on remicade in past for colon. it stopped working also. So, my Dr want me to try methotrexate injections weekly. i am scared to death. so i havent tried it. there are so many side effects to these drugs that we dont know abt till later. thats what scares me. i have been on steroids too but they wont keep you on them.

 i am 46 yrs old and have always been very active in past. i had to stop working 3 yrs ago( i had a great job too) medical field. and am on disability.

i have gone through much with other people not knowing how bad you feel because you look great. its amazing what a little make up and curling your hair does???

So i hear it all the time. I do those little things for me so i can look decent for myself and husband. He is the only one who truly knows how i am. So i have to say to anyone out there reading this who doesnt understand?. please listen to those who tell you how they feel. looks are decieving when it comes to illnesses.

i have many other things wrong also with me that i have been battling with for 20 yrs, one thing after another. but i keep my head up and life goes on daily for me. I grab the best out of the day and go on. try to enjoy those who you love and try to be a blessing to others. : )   Colleen   hope this helps 

2/24/09 5:13pm

Colleen, thank you so much for posting a reply.  I am so sorry you have both RA and Lupus among your other illnesses you have been battling.  It seems that so many of us have other illnesses too.  Just not fair.  I was afraid that I may have lupus also but Dr. said no.  I can't imagine what you go through.  I also suffer from severe pain in my spine, hands, feet, knees, and now my shoulder from a serious fall.  While being pain free is not possible, on a pain scale of 1-10 I would at least like have relief down to a 3.  At that point I can get out of bed and participate in life somewhat.  Right now, if it weren't for needing to get up to get my children off to school I don't know that I would get out of bed.

While methotrexate sounds scary it is a very old drug that has been on the market a very long time.  You don't have to be afraid of finding new adverse reactions popping up with it like you do with the 2 new agents you have already tried.  To me, those are much scarier.  Methotrexate can make you feel pretty puny but some people tolerate it quite well.  I will be hoping that you are one of them.

Yes, it's amazing what a little lipstick and hair fixing can do.  On the days my husband travels I don't bother with any of it.  I am lucky if I get my teeth brushed. 

Sounds like you have already had to give up a lot of activities in life.  I am having a lot of grief and anxiety around all that.  I am hoping I will respond soon to my medication and get some normalcy back.  I try to be positive and think of the things I can still do.

Good luck with trying the methotrexate.  I am going to try a new rheumy. 

You are not alone.

 

Jamie

Lene Andersen, Health Guide
2/23/09 11:46am

Sorry to hear that you've been diagnosed - like you said, on one hand it's a relief, but on the other, not fun at all. Welcome to our "club" (for a while there, developing a secret handshake was considered, but it with everybody's hands hurting, we gave that up).

 

First and foremost, get another doctor. This one was completely inappropriate and you need somebody who'll actually be professional and helpful. I've written a couple of recent posts you might find helpful - 5 Things to Do for the Newly Diagnosed and 5 Things to Look for in a Rheumatologist. As well, I write an ongoing series called A Beginners Guide to RA, which you can access by clicking on my name. I will say this, though. Although I've had bad rheumatologists and good rheumatologists throughout my 40+ year career with this disease, in my experience, support and information on how to live with the disease comes from other places, especially others who have RA, as well. A good rheumatologists will make you feel confident and safe in terms of medical treatment, but it seems to be rare for them to know much about community support. The Internet is a wonderful resource and you may also want to contact the Arthritis Foundation to see if they have any chapters in your area.

 

This site is a terrific community - we have so many supportive and helpful members. Thanks so much for posting and joining in the discussion. You offer in a unique perspective in that you're in the field from both sides and I hope you'll keep posting.

 

2/25/09 2:14am

Lene,

 

Thank you for the reply.  I had already read both of your articles!  After reading the one about finding a Dr. I knew I had to keep looking as I am so unhappy with the one I have.  I am also living in Canada and this Dr. is in BC.  It normally takes a year to get in to see him but a friend got me in in a month.  I don't know why he is so popular and I would hate for my friend to find out that I don't like the Dr. he recommended.  I have an appt. with someone new at the end of March.  You are right, places like this are the place to go for support and knowledge, you just don't get it from the physicians.  I have received so much help and support from this web site.

 

You have had RA since you were 4?  What has that been like?  How long can you go between flares and how good is the improvement between.  How long do flares usually last?  My RA has been seriously active for 5 months now. It came on like a freight train. I had some good relief with a 6 week course of prednisone.  I am thinking of asking for another.  My sulfasalazine hasn't worked yet but has only been 24 days and still not reach full dose yet.  Did you ever take sulfa?

 

I believe I may have had it as a child also.  My knees would swell the size of melons and I would use crutches until I they would calm down again.  My pediatrician diagnosed it as simple growing pains.  My children have had nothing like it.  It went away about the age of 12 or so.  I asked my rheumy if this could have been pediatric RA that went into remission until now and he said the short answer was yes.  I was in a bad car accident exactly 4 months before the RA flare started.  I believe the severe pain/trauma and stress of the car accident triggered the RA.  So in total, I have been incapacitated for 9 months because it started with the car accident.

 

Looking forwarding to reading more of your posts and I will keep posting also.

 

Cheers,

 

Jamie

2/24/09 6:34pm

Yell You might not like me b.c basically I'm going to tell you how great you have it compaired to me. I've suffered with RA since childhood having my first flu-flare at 14yrs. Well that being said it's been pretty up and down and I've achieved most of my career goals however hard it's been .  Now I'm in my 30's and unmarried I wonder... could I ever hold an infant for very long? could I run after a 2 yr old.  Ect.. Yes I dated a guy for too many years we met when I was 19 and stayed together till I was 29 I thought he was the one. He would tolerate my flare-ups even feed me cause sometimes the pain was too much. But .. That ended... too many energetic healthy girls around and I won't tollerate cheating no matter why. Well... now my stuggle is dating.

Acting natural on a date when your whole body is in pain is impossible. Just the fact that you are hiding the pain is a lie. Like you I want to curl up in my warm bed but.. so far It looks like I'll be alone.

 RA is strange for me I look great I stay thin cause the pain subdues any appetite but  I do not feel good!  I just grin and bear it.

 

2/24/09 8:01pm

i would not judge anyone. i only feel bad for everyone who battles. its different for us all. I have not got into all of my history. it would take a long time.  i dont wear make up most days except if we visit friends or i am having a good day and want to wear it.  i had a tough time letting go of my old job. it was wonderful and i was very successful in my field. i could not go on traveling and taking all the meds i do. also couldnt sit or stand in car ect for that long. My rheum Dr thinks i got lupus from remicade. i was on it for a while. i tolerate all the bad but sometimes its overwhelming and i break down. i am thin and active, or at least try to.  My Dr knows my history and told me i would be down from meds for a couple of days, I dont tolerate being nausous at all(more to it). so any meds that make that happen wont work. again, i am not normal case by ANY means. there is lots to tell will fill in later. thanks though.

2/25/09 12:59am

Erica,

 

Let me get this straight-I am newly diagnosed with RA looking for support and guidance from those who have gone before me and your response is to berate and invalidate my experiences because they don't measure up to yours mostly because you don't have a significant other?  What do you think this is, a contest where only those who have suffered the most get to share? You have no right to judge anyone else's RA journey. 

 

 

Anonymous
ERica
2/27/09 10:42pm

I'll keep this short and sweet this time. I thought you would get the scarcastic tone of my note by the fact that I started with " you are not going to like this" -Obviously I was right about that.. I just sensed that you were feeling somewhat alone or under appreciated.  As I mentioned befoere ,thankfully I am an accomplished person and I could have regaled you with all of my triumphs over RA but I felt that if I could give you a "sob" story you would welcome your many blessings and accept your challenges. Because RA is a moment to moment challenge. Every step some days can feel like you've climbed a mountain.

I know the right person for me is not going to care in the least about my RA. And to answer your question, No I don't think that there is a competition  I was simply relating my RA experience to you from my single persons perspective. Since you related your RA experience from a married person's perspective. I hope you find relief in knowing that.

 

Anonymous
erica
2/27/09 11:14pm

Hi, Coleen did that post sound like I was judging her?  Actually I was attempting to shine a bright light on the life that she discribes. I could never run around after children, cook, clean, ect..  I don't think that I would really want to but alas my view is scued from the pains of RA.

 

I do feel sympathy for you. I am aghast at how they can sell drugs that cause so many other issues. How in the world do they sleep at night? For now I'm dealing with the pressure of RA pretty much on my own because I'm too afraid of the side effects of the meds.

Like you I can barely move once I've taken a pain med so even sitting in the bed reading would be a serious struggle for me to keep my eyes open. Who wants to be in an aware vegitative state?!? I know a serious oximoron but I can discribe it any better. Why take a pain pill if you are going to be bed ridden any way?I mean if I could pop a pill and drive my self to work and have a productive day then.. I do it in a heartbeat.

 

How long have you had RA? Do you find that yours peaks with certain weather?

For a while they thought I had lupus too. I never took the test cause I've always had RA all over in all my soft tissue. My first episode was at 14 when my entire body even by lips and eyelids blew up to like 5 times normal size within a 2 hr time frame. That lasted for 2 weeks and when I say every inch I mean every mm was  inflamed with RA fluid and the associated pain. I've never gone so long without moving. So when my stomach and lungs ache of RA I know why and I refuse to believe its lupus.

 

I hope you don't have lupus. If you do I will say I've had 2 friends with it who have been able to keep it under controll but it's best to hope for the best. I say.. Well I can't type too much but you seem like a neat person. I'd like to know more about your work that you enjoyed so much and what new RA friendly interests you've developed.

 

My newest RA friendly thing is surfing the net via my cell phone. Which means I don't have to get out of the warm comfort of my bed to walk over(ache) and sit in the computer chair(ache) which stresses out my hips(ache), and wrist at the keyboard(ache).

 

 

2/28/09 12:44am

Erica,

 

Your sarcasm was completely obvious.  No matter what you think of me or my RA experiences your response was completely inappropriate, insensitive and just plain mean-spirited.  

 

Below is the definition of sarcasm.  You couldn't have described your attitude and comments to me any better than this:

 

Sarcasm:

1. harsh or bitter derision

2. a sharply ironic taunt; sneering or cutting remark

3. bitterness, ridicule, jeer

 

Your comments to me are unwelcome, I don't need your sarcasm and bitterness.

2/26/09 12:25pm

First GET a NEW DOCTOR!!! My first one was like that, and it devastated me. Try to find one who is up on alternative/supplemental treatments as well, that helps.

 

Second, IN ADDITION to whatever meds you are prescribed, I've found that the following actually help ME. (I actually track all my labs and meds in a spreadsheet to try and figure it out.)

 

Cherry extract - I take 6 capsules a day, but it helps my pain considerably and doesn't hurt anything. You have to eat about a billion  actually cherries to get the same amount.

 

Good joint supplement - I take one called Joint Health that has a lot of other stuff in it, instead of a multivitamin. I take 5 a day, 6 was too much vitamin A and made my hair start coming out.

 

Lots of vitamin C - Nature's prednisone. Your body will only use what you need, I take 8 - 10 thousand mg a day. Work up to whatever amount causes 'intestinal distress' and then back off a little.

 

Strong B Complex - This helps with the fatigue. I take one in the morning, then a different one at night that's a stress complex with Valerian (natural) in it, that offsets the B and lets you sleep.

 

I also take Milk Thistle - widely studied (even Johns Hopkins) in assisting the liver function (google it). Everything we take for this goes through the liver - my liver studies are actually better now than in the beginning, I think because of the Milk Thistle (and probably better diet and vitamins I'm sure).

 

Most of all, be proactive - don't just be in pain. There is something called a 'pain inflamation cycle' that isn't really well understood. But, inflamation causes pain, which causes more inflamation. So, it accomplishes nothing to 'tough out' the pain.

 

A good rheumatologist is the first and most important thing - hard to find, but worth their weight in gold. It has to be someone who listens to you, who you don't hesitate to call if something changes.

 

Good luck, and hang in there!!!!!! You will get a grip on this with a little (lot?) of effort.

 

Ruth

3/ 3/09 10:25pm

Hi Ruth,

 

Thank you for all the good suggestions.  I have been researching many alternatives and did look up the Cherry Extract too.  It has anti-inflammatory properties.  I have been adding vitamin supplements too, including the all important Vit. D.  I really enjoy hearing what helps others. 

 

I have an appt. with a new rhuem. on the 30th.  I hope this guy is good.  If not, I will keep looking.

 

I have read about the pain/inflammation/stress cycle quite a bit as I think it's what started this RA.  I was in a bad car accident last May with severe, untreated pain.  Four months later I was hit with a very severe onset of RA.  I really think the pain/trauma/stress of the car accident injuries triggered it.  The cycle has to be stopped.  Pain used to be treated as just a symptom but we now know that pain itself has to be treated aggressively to break the cycle and let the body heal.

 

Do you take any of the Rx Meds for your RA?

 

Jamie

3/ 4/09 9:19am

Good mornin' -

 

I'm on Methotrexate - lowest possible dose, and still on prednisone, but down to only 7mg a day. I also take Mobic (anti inflamatory) 7.5mg twice a day, although I think it's of minimal (but some) benefit, and not as bad on the stomach as taking a dozen motrin a day. I tolerate the methotrexate very well - although I understand some folks don't. I wasn't able to take Plaquanil - worst hives/rash I ever had, over about 80% of my body! It took about 6 weeks to completely go away - I was just precious!

 

Once I'm completely off the prednisone (that will take another couple of months, have to go off it really slowly to let the body adjust after 4 months at 15mg a day), he says we'll see if the Methotrexate dose is enough.

 

Although my Rheumatoid factor is positive, it's just barely, and my Dr. still calls what I have an unspecified inflamatory arthritis - not RA. But, it's treated the same, and could eventually be 'called' RA. There are over 120 types of arthritis, with only about 27 or so that can be positively identified, so it's not an exact science. Research shows that a positive RA factor doesn't always mean RA, and a negative one doesn't mean it isn't.

 

I think a lot of things can trigger inflamatory arthritis - not cause it, but trigger it like you said. And no matter how good your doctor is, your best source of information is you. And the most inportant thing you can do is be proactive. Find a good health food type store with knowledgable folks and they can help you with the supplement side of the house. I definitely think it's a combination of all this that controls my pain and stiffness.

 

Remember, there is no benefit in suffering with pain, or fatigue for that matter. If you hurt, take something. If you're tired, figure out how to take a nap. If you're exhausted, sleep for a day. All that is sometimes easier said than done, but every effort in that direction will help.

 

Hang in there!!!

Ruth

2/26/09 12:39pm

Jamie -

 

There is a topical called TheraPain Plus that I could't live without. I order it from www.ReliefMart.com, but other sites are about the same price. This site periodically sends out discounts, etc., so I use them. Make sure if you order it get the PLUS, not the plain.

 

My understanding about the way it works is that it delivers Glucosomine and MSM directly to the joints in large amounts - but I don't really care how Cool It's about 30 dollars a bottle, but has about 500 sprays I think. I use it like lotion on my hands and wrists - 3-5 squirts in the palm of my hand then rub it all over my hands and wrists. It smells for a little while, but then it goes away. Lasts a long time! I use it wherever I have pain, but mine is narrowed mostly to my hands and wrists (sometimes feet) for now. Worth every penny! Lets me wear real heals to go out, etc.

 

Again, what works for me may not work for you, but it's worth a shot! You're a little younger than I am, but I wasn't ready to lie down and whine, and obviously you aren't either.

 

Take care!

2/26/09 3:58pm

I just to say welcome to the group. I also have rheumatoid arthritis. This website has been very useful to me also.

Anonymous
andrew
3/17/09 8:42pm

I've had a variety of symptoms for 4-5 years including iritis in both eyes, achilles tendon tears on both ankles resulting in surgical repairs, chronic fatigue, chronic hives, and morning stiffness. In the past 6 months, I've had finger swelling and joint pain in the PIP joints. From x-rays, the radiologist noticed the beginning of bone erosion in the PIP joints. All blood tests for RA and HLA-B27 were negative so my rheumatologist diagnosed seronegative arthritis. I had a severe reaction to sulfasalizine (which actually was helping my fingers). It seems like this diagnosis slips between the cracks in the literature.
1. What is the likelihood that blood tests may change in the future?
2. Is there any way to determine the long term prognosis with seronegative arthritis?
3. What other treatments are available besides sulfasalizine?
4. Are chronic hives commonly associated with this or should I see an allergist?

3/20/09 1:58pm

Hi Andrew.  You have a very interesting and complicated case.  I want to take some time and respond to some of your questions.  Right now I don't have the time but I will give a more complete response later.

 

For now, hives are an allergic reaction and part of the immune system which your immune system is out of control.  It would be very difficult to pin point exactly what is causing them.  A dermatologist would probably do allergy skin testing on you.  The medications can also be a culprit. 

 

Yes, there are lots more meds out there besides Sulfasalazine so keep your spirits up and be willing to try others.

 

Write more later.

 

Cheers,

 

Jamie

Anonymous
Andrew
3/28/09 1:56pm

Hi Jamie,

 

My Rheumy put me on methotrexate yesterday. We had a great discussion about knowing when is the right time to take a DMARD like methotrexate. He argued that since bone erosion was already found in the xrays of my fingers, I've had surgery on both achilles, and had a case of iritis in the eyes, it would be a good idea to try to stop progession of the disease. Even though I'm seronegative on all blood tests, physical symptoms trump those and warrant treatment. He also mentioned that while some people do seroconvert to positive blood tests later, the overall prognosis to seronegative arthritis is better than with RA.

 

Re. hives...I notice that my hives tend to come on stronger in the evening and are usually localized in the lower arms/hands and lower legs/feet. My doc is convinced that this is a symptom of the autoimmune nature of the arthritis and will decrease as the methotrexate kicks in. If they are still present after a couple of months, then I'll go see an allergist.

 

Keeping a positive outlook...I even went snow skiing this week, although my knees and wrists told me to stop by mid afternoon!

 

Cheers,

Andrew

Anonymous
jamie
3/29/09 11:26am
Andrew, That's great news you are finally getting treatment, sounds like you could have used it earlier. About half of us are seronegative but still have very active disease like yours. Let me know how the .MTX goes are you on 7.5 mg tablet? Yes, hopefully calming down your immune system will help with the hives. Wishing you the best, Jamie
3/29/09 8:23pm

Yes, I'm on 7.5 mg MTX weekly.

 

Is fatigue and depression common with this because it comes and goes with me. Low does of celexa/citrolpram helps me a lot.

 

I've also read where seronegative arthritis is sometimes called undifferentiated spondyloarthropathy. Some studies show that many either seroconvert or are more specifically diagnosed over time.

 

It's hard to explain such a beast to friends and family since most have no reference point. Such is the nature of this disease!

 

 

4/18/11 4:09pm

My first post.  I don't know how I found this "community", but I cried I was so glad to have found it.  To find the understanding from others as well as help to understand myself is overwhelming. 

 

RA runs sporadically in my family, it appears we have the "gene".  My nephew has had Ankylosing Spondylitis since he was 6, the "gene" made him susceptible to a virus from bad water in a creek that caused an extreme fever and left him with swelling knees and a severe onset of childhood arthritis, now 32, he has been through years of pain.  I feel lucky to have not suffered too much with RA till the last 5 years or so, this year increasingly worse.  What I didn't understand about RA till reading this blog is the fatigue I have been inundated with.  I'm only 58 and the inability to keep up with my sister (8 years older than I, on chemo no less) is self deprecating.  I've berated myself constantly for being lazy and out of shape, but no matter how hard I would try I just couldn't get myself into shape again.  Besides causing more inflammation, exercise and activities are exhausting, but I keep telling myself if I just tried harder and did it everyday I would get past it.  I know that extra weight makes arthritis worse but the arthritis makes it so much harder to loose, adds tons of guilt to the equation as well. (I've gained 30 pounds in the last 6 years since my RA started acting up) it's the old question, which came first the chicken or the egg.  I always fill like such an old grouchy slug by the end of the day when my grandchildren come around. 

 

I don't have a "Rhuemy".  My insurance these last 3 years, besides being cost prohibitive is very uncooperative.  My GP professes to be able to take care of anything.  My only relief has been occasional steroid shots for my hip bursitis and an occasional prescription of hydrocodone.  Doctors act like you're a drug addict any time you mention pain or pain killers.   I save my Vicadin for the occasions I know will be hard on me, but I just don't want to miss out on, the rest of the time it's aspirin or aleve.  The steroid shots are marvelous, they don't work right away, and they make you crazy the first day, but cut down the inflammation for up to 3 months, each time I get a shot I try to increase my activities and exercise in hopes of getting in better shape and and keeping the pain away.  But it gradually comes back and it's months before my doctor will give me another.  I save my energy for the things I really want to do or need to get done.  Like that song, "I'm not as good as I once was, but occasionally, I'm as good as I ever was!"

 

First it was my knees, then my hips, but my knees were better, now my hips have quieted down but my feet feel like the bones are breaking every time I get up from sitting or laying down for anymore than 5 minutes.  It's like a chemical that settles in my body parts, here one day, there another, some days in all of them.  Has anyone tried the new tennis shoes that roll?  I was wondering if they would help or hinder more. 

 

Thank you for being there,

Penny

 

 

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By Jamie— Last Modified: 10/26/11, First Published: 02/21/09