Thursday, May 31, 2012

Lost and Lonely

By Jen73 Sunday, May 23, 2010

Hi I am 37 yr old F mother of 2 wonderful boys, 15 and 10. I have had RA for almost 9 yrs now. Lots of different meds later and finally on humira and arava which seem to be working well for the most part. My husband has recently been diaognoised with ADD and bipolar, after being hospitalized due to attempted suicide. That was very hard seeing him on a vent and in hospital for over 3 weeks. We have been together for almost 23 yrs and married 16 this June. Things have changed between us alot now and I am trying to be there for him, but it is hard and stressful on me when as we all know when we get stressed we start to flair. He doesn't seem to understand that anymore and I am trying not to complain to him because I know he is going through alot. He is still off work and off to June 30. I just don't know how much longer my body can with stand living my life going through his issues also. I hope that doesn't sound selfish, because I am not and put everyone else ahead of my own needs. It just seems the older I get the harder that seems to be possible. Anyway thanks for reading I know this really doesn't fit into this site, but it's my life living with RA.

Wishing for painfree days for everyone.

Thanks,

Jen

5/24/10 2:35pm

Hey Jen,

 

Wow -- you've definitly got a full basket right now.  I know it's tough dealing with all that stress.

 

When I flare (or go through any kind of crisis, really) I tend to get tunnel vision, and things not directly in front of me get edited out of my thoughts.  I've tried to explain this to non-RA'ers as a "tightening" of my world until the only things I'm really aware of are my pain, my RA, and how much it has impacted my life.  I miss things.  I miss signals from people I'd otherwise catch.  I kind of forget that there are people out there who care what I'm going through and I forget to reach out to them and let them help me.  I guess, in a way, I shrink in on myself and exclude everything else.

 

I'm willing to bet that your husband is going through something very similar to a flare and is reacting in much the same way as we all do to flares.  I don't know if this helps or not (sure hope it does some how) but, I think that deep down, he still knows and understands everything about your disease that he knew before, but right now, he might not have enough bandwidth to keep that knowledge and understanding at the front of his mind.  He's probably very confused about everything.  He probably just wants to be the sole person with needs that are being cared for -- even if he doesn't know this consiously.  He's healing, he's fighting his way back from the brink, he's recovering from crisis, he's flaring.

 

The best thing you can do for him right now is to take care of yourself and support him as best you can (in that order of priority).  Let go of what you can let go of in terms of stress and try to roll with it (easy to say, I know...).

5/24/10 6:10pm

Thanks for the words of wisdom! They do make much sense. I never really looked at it that was, that he was so called going through a flare himself. It's just hard, because when I am havin pain for a flare, I as well have to take care of the family as well. Guess Im just whinning lol. Anyway I do appricate the words and you taking the time to read and reply to my venting. He was suspose to be off to June 30, and just got a letter today from the insurance co with finally a check, saying they are only paying him to the 16th of this month! So now he has to try and get his doc to rewrite the orders to go back to work earlier which I don't think he is really stable to go back yet. But anyway thanks again!

Wishing you a pain free day!

Jen

5/26/10 12:50pm

Hey Jen,

 

It's not whining!  Not at all -- venting, maybe, but getting the load of your shoulders for sure.  I'm just a crazy Scandinavian who keeps the world on my shoulders, but I do know we all need a place to let things loose and to throw things out to sympathetic ears.

 

I can't imagine what I'd do if my wife (who is the foundation on which my entire support system rests) were somehow sidelined.  I know it would be very hard, though, and can only offer you my encouragement and best wishes!

 

You sound like a very strong lady -- I think you've got this -- but maybe your 15 year old is old enough to help you out.  My son is only six, but he is pretty amazing when he finds out I'm in pain or need help.  Your sons may not know how to help you, but I bet some straight talk from Mom could set them on the path.

 

And, remember, even when this place is quiet, people who understand are here and listening.

5/30/10 1:16pm

You said " shrink in on myself and exclude everything else"  it's the first time I've seen that in print -- and it is exactly what I do.  Doesn't help anyone, but I haven't learned yet how NOT to do this.  Any clues?

5/30/10 1:41pm

I wish I had the answer.  I don't, but I'm practicing :)  I catch myself doing it sometimes, and then I find the last person that I was "shrunken" with and talk to them.  Even so, I still realize, sometimes weeks after I've recovered, that I was "pinhole sized" for weeks at a time.

 

I've gotten better about pain and asking for help on the RA side.  Now, however, when I'm sick, or something like that, I'm still going pinhole...

5/26/10 7:22pm

Hello Jen! I totally understand what you are going through. I feel your pain and understand the frustration and how stress can indeed cause those flares. I work full time, have a 20 year old son totally dependent on me for care, a 17 year old son threatening to move out and a hubby who doesnt understand what I am going through. Know that I am here for you anytime you need to talk.

I wish there was something I could do for you to help, know that I care and understand.

It is good to share these feelings with those who do understand, don't keep them bottled up inside as that just causes more stress on you. It sounds to me like you are a wonderful caring wife and mother. Blessings to you and hugs!

Send me a message anytime, I check in daily.

Kim :)

5/27/10 11:30am

Indeed hang in there - 

 

You have enough on yr plate with RA - its an awful double wammy to have yr husband and rock also go down with any illness whatsoever.

 

Keep posting in these forums - there are plenty who know exactly what RA is like to live with 

 

God Bless etc

5/27/10 1:21pm

On a daily basis we have to push through the day, whether it is spouses, elderly parents, bosses, neighbors, siblings ... it sucks ... and it REALLY SUCKS when you have a nasty disorder (RA) that "normal" people have NO idea what that feels like ... let alone live with ... and then ... CRAP HAPPENS .... serious CRAP ... such as your husband's medical issues and attempted suicides ... and we STILL have RA ... and all the other issues of everyone else in our lives ... and we want to YELL AND SCREAM .... "WHAT ABOUT ME???"!!!!!!

 

Deep Breathing here .....

 

That's when I pull out my old and ever faithful favorite T-Shirt .... put it on ... stare in the mirror for a minute ... make sure that ALL of my family sees the T-shirt is on (which translates to ... MOM NEEDS A HUG & STOP BEING A PROBLEM AND START BEING PART OF THE SOLUTION) ...... and somehow .... things seem a little better ...

 

I typically don't give away my "tips for survival" ... but in your case ... I will!!!

 

Get yourself a T-Shirt Made Up .....EXACTLY how I tell you .... and make sure your family KNOWS ... when they see you wear it ..... YOU NEED HELP ... NOT THEIR CRAP!!!

 

On the front ....

 

 

 

LIFE IS SHORT ..... AND THEN WE DIE !!!

 

 

On the back....

 

LIFE IS NOT FAIR ..... SO DEAL WITH IT!!!

 

 

Ok seriously .... Even though you think you will not survive this ... You will and you have MANY friends and supporters online who DO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND what you are going through .... Deep Breathing .... helps ... and become like a teenager is another help ...

 

Oh ... what do I mean by that ....

 

Learn to cultivate the fine art of ..... "Selective Memory" & "Selective Hearing"

 

((((HUGS))))

 

JoZ

p.s. I do hope you realize that I am trying to perk up your spirits ... and we do understand ... WE WOMEN ARE TOUGHER the menfolk ..... Wink

 

 

 

5/27/10 10:08pm

Thanks alot for the advice! I love the idea of the shirt and am so glad that you shared you secert with me! I am glad that there are so many people who can make me smile in here! It feels good to have a outlet and not keeping it all inside, and having people who understand me and don't think I'm just complain.

Thanks again,

Jen

5/27/10 1:44pm

You are definitely going thru tough times.  I have had RA for 12 years and have been taking Humira for three years.  I think you might be ready to try another approach.  I am not a religious fanatic, far from it, but recently my life has improved thru spiritual meditation.  I am not talking about blind faith but rather verifiable faith.  God, the Universe, whatever you believe in,  wants to help you and will answer your prayers (request).  Just take this simple step.  Go to a quiet place, spend some time just trying to relax your brain, then ask for something specific in the way of help.  Once your request is granted and it will be then take the next step.

5/27/10 10:11pm

Thanks for the advice, I have been trying some yoga and am liking that. Guess I need to find more me time and try the relaxing the brain. I seem to keep going and going even though I just can't because I am a mom and I have to do everything. It's just hard to say no to anyone or wait a few...I don't like to take time for myself, but am learning that slowly! Thanks again!

Jen

5/28/10 8:34am

Jen

Yes, finding time for yourself is difficult and your brain will fight meditation.  I still have problems sitting and blanking my mind for more than 10 minutes.  Start with this:  Five minutes of quiet time and then ask God, the universe, or whatever you believe in to help you.  Be specific and have enough faith to give this a chance.  It will work and then it will be easier to try again.  I am not going to bug you anymore.  I am really just trying to help, this worked for me and changed my life.

Greg

5/28/10 10:02am

Greg,

Thanks, you are not bugging me by no means, I like the input and am going to give it a try in just a few, finally have some quiet time! I will let you know how it works! Thanks again and I do appriciate all the advice! I am a open minded person and am willing to give anything a try! Enjoy your day!

Jen

5/27/10 2:40pm

I have been dealing with RA since 1998  I am taking Humira and Methotrexate,that is all. Emotional stress does impact RA,It can really cause a bad Flare up. I taught myself to accept things that i cannot change, and to try to deal with things the best i can.   Hope things get better

 

                                 

                                                 Sincerely

               

                                                             Lisa

5/27/10 10:15pm

Thanks Lisa!

I am working on it lol...hard to do but realizing that I can't control everything and I need to let that go! This really is a great group and I am glad I found it and started sharing! I always felt I could deal with it myself, the RA because ppl don't really understand how we feel, it is nice to know that I am not alone! Thanks again everyone for reading and the great advice and encouragement!

Jen

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5/28/10 9:01am

Jen,

 

I am sorry to hear your story but can definitely relate.  I am a 64 year old male and have had RA since I was 27.  Most of my symptoms have abated over 15 years ago with the exception of the deformities it left behind.  Conventional medicine has no idea why but I do now.  I left behind the stress of a failed marriage.  Stress can kill if you let it.  This disease usually affects one partner  or the other.  It depends on many things.  In my case it was me that was affected because I was the weaker of the two partners. 

 

What you have described sounds like the same kind of standoff that was going on in my relationship with the exception that it appears to have affected both of you.  Don't let it!!  If you cannot resolve the problems in your primary relationship, I would reccommend starting over while you are still young.  My guess is that once you have made that decision, your symptoms will disappear.

 

  I didn't do what I am reccommending to you because I grew up in a generation that believed that marriage was something you did for keeps....no matter how rough it gets.  That is a philosophy that nearly killed me more than once. (pulmanary embolism, hematoma, and stroke)

If you continue to take these very toxic medications, those kinds of things are very real possibilities for you also. 

 

Something else that has helped me (besides the separation) is exercise, meditation, a good diet, and a thing called EFT which I can highly reccommend.  Google it and go to the site and get the free manual.  It is an excellent read and it teaches you many things about yourself  that you may not have come to terms with yet.

 

Good luck, and may "the force" be with you:)

 

Steve

5/28/10 4:15pm

Jen

How brave of you to tell what's going on with your life.

I am praying for you.  Is there any other relative or friend who can help you out or you can talk to?  Or a priest, minister,rabbi or counselor?  I am concerned that your children will be fearful and scared by all of this as I am sure you are.  One thing you can do is repeat over and over that you are the same person and life has just handed you a bucket of trouble but you will get through it.  If things don't work out in your marriage because of all the added stress and your husband's illness, move on in life.  It's too short to try and fight everyone elses battles especially when you have your own battle, RA, to fight.

 

5/29/10 9:21am

having RA is bad enough but when you have a loved one that is Bipolar your stress level goes through the roof. My Brother-in-Law is Bipolar so I know the effects of Bipolar; it's hard to handle a person like that because  you just never really know what mood they are in when you start talking to them. Just remember that we are here for you & you can vent about anything. You have RA & that in itself is a lot to deal w/. I have a 2nd form of RA~~Ankylosing Spondylitis & in about 3 days we'll find out if I have Lupus as well. Life gets rough but God is w/ us to help us through this.

5/29/10 10:27am

keep the faith jen it will see you through, this too will pass. know that we are here for you. please try to take some quiet time and deep breath for several mins. my thoughts and prayers are with you.

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