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tessie
Friday, March 27, 2009 at 04:49 PMre: Untitled Comment
AmyAria
Monday, March 30, 2009 at 01:09 PMLOVE IT!! That really is a good solution. I'm all for my man seeking ways to make my life easier! Now....if only I can find a way to make him think that this solution was HIS idea! Then we'll be COOKIN'! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! It always kind of takes me aback when I get those reminders that I'm not the only one that has to maneuver around the whole RA concept. Sometimes I get frustrated cuz folks around me haven't necessarily turned a page just because I have. It's kind of funny when you think about it; even though it's my disease it STILL isn't all about me! Waaaaaah! Ah well, beats the heck out of dealing with it alone, right?
Thanks for the response, darlin'! It made me smile!
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Hope
Friday, March 27, 2009 at 06:26 PMI can understand where youre coming from. My husband doesn't even respond anymore when I say I don't feel well. When I asked him why he "Well unless there is something I can do to fix it whats the point of talking about it." Unfortunately they are just as frustruated as we. They are watching us suffer quietly or loudly and not being able to make the pain go away or even comfort us because touch is too painful some moments. We just don't talk about it anymore. I have my mother and sister to be support system. If however there is something serious he will listen but not comment. It's hard but I don't want to make everyone else suffer along with me.
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AmyAria
Monday, March 30, 2009 at 01:24 PMHmmmm.....that sounds a little lonely, for both of you really. I guess it's unfortunate that along with the diagnosis, we aren't handed a marriage manual of how to work through all this stuff. Even if we were, I can't imagine someone trying to come up with a "one size fits all" solution. I don't even know what that might look like. Still, I've yet to meet anyone who's found a way to have their marriage firing perfectly on ALL cylindars. Besides we wives have a reputation for being hopeless tinkerers. I suppose some good advice for all of us is to focus on the parts that work and take what joy we can from that. Perhaps with time and naturally more tinkering we can get to a spot we can live with.
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Laura
Sunday, March 29, 2009 at 07:59 PMHi Ladies, I'm reading your comments and thinking about my situation. My husband almost ignores my pain and limitations. This weekend My husband, myself and my son are all sick with cold/flu and both husband and son are so sick they are unable to do anything (that's what they say) to help me. Don't forget that I'm sick too, plus have my RA related pain. But, guess whose fixing dinner, doing dishes, laundry etc? My husband isn't even a "fixer". Sometimes, I feel like he tries to be sicker so that he can get attention. I don't know, it's very frustrating. I think that if you have husbands that accept your disease, understand and care enough to want to help you, then you are blessed!re: Untitled Comment
AmyAria
Monday, March 30, 2009 at 01:37 PMSadly I've heard this one before. Ok, I've lived this one before at least regarding the whole "flu" thing. The mantra goes like this, "I know you don't feel good and I don't either. It is ok for you to do less, HOWEVER it is not ok for you to do nothing." Yeah it's crazy I know, but regardless of parental sniffles, the Department of Child Social Services STILL expect you to feed the youngsters and prevent them from sleeping in their own filth. SOOOO WACKY!! I think we may have crossed this hurdle, but at times we still need a well placed reminder.
Beyond that, touche! I am a BIIIIIIIG believer in counting the blessings! Even if he drives me nuts by trying to "manage" my RA, at least he acknowledges it and my occasional limitations. Thank you for that.
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RissaJoy
Sunday, March 29, 2009 at 10:26 PMWe had such a similar situation today! My hubby is sooo confused, he either wants to hand me a wheelchair or a hoe. He's not dealing well w/ the fact thay I don't know how I'm gonna feel. It's a day by day thing. Some days I may want to go bike riding, other days, I'm on the couch and half crippled. I had a 4-week flare in Nov, felt good for a while, then am in the second week of a flare now.
He dosn't want to greet me everyday with "What are you capable of, today?" But he dosn't want to automatically count me out, either.
I just said, we're gonna have to communicate through this. That's the only way. Neither of us can see the future. Only I know how I'm feeling.
He really hates that we can't nail this thing down.
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Lene Andersen
Monday, March 30, 2009 at 12:42 PMThat was absolutely brilliant. Men in general aren't really good at just listening to the event, somehow they always want to fix it - is a general complaint I hear from all my girlfriends, whether they have a chronic disease or not.
I really like the way you talk about control and how it's important not to get sucked into thinking you're responsible when things are good, because that will make you feel like you have control over things when they go bad. I'm still working on learning that - and did I mention I've had this disease for 42 years? There is always part of me that goes "no, no! I just need to find the right trick or think about it really hard and the powers of my mind will make the inflammation go down!". Delusions of grandeur, I tell ya...

p.s. hope things get better soon. Maybe it's spring? Spring and fall are terrible for this disease.
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AmyAria
Monday, March 30, 2009 at 01:48 PMAye, there's the rub huh? Yeah I do the same dang thing to greater or lesser degrees all the time. Oh but it's soooo much easier to recognize his error in trying to "fix" me, than to recognize my own. "Hey kettle!", says the pot, "You're black!" Yesssss....poor guy. See he just has to intuitively "know" when I'm in the fixing mode to offer his "fixing" advice OR conversely "know" when I'm at peace with my limitations. God I am a complex creature. Lots of layers....like a parfait or an onion.

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It is just not Men!
bucky badger
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 at 11:27 AMI also recently went through a flare up after a quite long period of feeling pretty good. My wife seen me "gimping" around, having problems picking up the boys, going to bed early and feeling crappy and thought it would be a good idea to bring up, "Hon, you are sure tired a lot. Are you taking your medicine?" I felt like I was hit by a load of bricks. I work 55 hours of week, drive 2 hours a day, volunteer at our Church, work out a couple of times a week, help raise a family, do all the cooking, do all the yard work/snow shoveling, house maintenance, help clean the house, do dishes, and help clean up the messes my two little monsters (19 month and 4yr old boys) create like violent F-5 tornadoes, through the house. I thought, tell me most men that DON'T have RA, that do that in a typical work week. I know that I use to do more (and some people do a lot more) but I do try.
She tries to understand that I have RA but really has no tolerance for me not keeping up my end of the bargain with living life. I guess as a man that I am suppose to not show signs of being weak. I think, she thinks, I have to act like John Wayne with terminal cancer, guns a blazing and tough as nails. I think I do a good job with dealing with what I have and its limitations. I go to the doctor/rheumy when I know my flare ups are out of my control. I take my medicines, go to physical therapy and stay active when I can. I try and eat right but like anyone I am not perfect.
Bottom line is I know this can be frustrating for all of us. My wife married a man that loved playing sports, fishing, hunting, camping and staying active. She is ending up with a guy that goes to bed at 8:00 after the kids go to bed. I still do most of those things but a lot different than what I use to do them. I know she hates it when I am hurting and she can't help me.
Amy, it is good to read a post from you and I hope my post will add to your feeling that you are not alone and I understand what you are talking about.
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AmyAria
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 at 12:27 PMHi Bucky!! Dang!! Sooooo good to hear from you! I also was really REALLY hoping to hear from some of the guys on this, so thank you! Yeah, I really didn't want to totally peg it as a guy/gal thing cuz I'm not convinced it is. I was actually thinking about you when I posted because I remembered you saying at one point you didn't feel your wife always "gets it" either. Since we women get hit with the RA crud at a higher percentage it can be tempting to fall into the whole gender debate when we struggle with our support systems, ja know?
I also don't ever want to lose sight of the fact that he got sucker punched with this diagnosis too. I had a real bitter streak at one point where I resented having to support his grieving process cuz I WAS THE SICK ONE! Seemed really unfair somehow. Now I'm kind of ashamed I felt that way. I think at the heart of it, it's just really hard to figure how to be supportive of each other in a situation that nobody asked for or could have anticipated. Again, no guidebook!
Thanks for keeping us honest and I wish you and your mom ALL the best!
Go Badgers!!
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bucky badger
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 at 01:01 PMHello Amy! I was glad to see that you had posted since it has been a while since I have been on the site. I admit I do get a little put off with the whole guy/gal thing with RA. I am in full belief that this disease is total crap for both genders.
Boy, do I hear you when you say there is no guidebook for living life with RA or how to react to having the disease. It has been really hard lately since I have had flare ups and I look healthy. People (and my wife) look at me and see me participating in daily life activities and I just "fizzle out" after a few hours. They know that is not like me so I get the 10,000 question inquisition! I still to this day hate explaining to everyone what is "wrong" with me and then I have to hear what is "wrong" with modern medicine and the conspiracy that our food is tainted with crap that caused my RA. Imagine me with my fingers in my ears, jumping up and down while screaming, "I am not listening anymore", over and over again!
I guess since there is no guidebook we will just have to live and learn through our successes and failures.
It is nice to hear from you and take care.
Thanks for the go bucky (even though I know you like the Hawkeyes
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Feels like the TinMan
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it was good to see & read all your posts... married 33 yrs
Ellen
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 11:06 AMhi - I can really relate to all of the above! I have a terrific husband who loves to cook, can do stuff around the house, and in general (hear the little whine) puts me to shame! He does like to fix things (and mostly is very good at it!). He is very supportive of me, (which puts me more to shame) and I don't know what I'd do without him.
All of this didn't happen overnight. It took us the first 10 years of marriage for me to learn to say what was wrong without him feeling like he had to fix it. I needed to be able to say what was bothering me gently, and he needed to know that I needed the listening ear, even if he couldn't help. And still, it's a constant learning process. For me, the most difficult thing is: (as scripture says: "Avoid anger - leave rage alone." I am good at raging when I'm not feeling well. But the rage itself takes a toll, can be physically exhausting and emotionally overwhelming. Yet I still unconsciously look for openings to vent, and sometimes don't realize until too late, that I got "hooked', my buttons were pushed. Over the years I've (mostly) learned to lighten up and at least attempt the adult conversation before losing my temper. Mostly I succeed, but with RA, seems like I had to start all over again and learn to pay attention to my moods, try and figure out why things happen. I don't know about all of you, but the medicine can affect my ability to sort things out as well, which is frustrating.
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Perfect post, gal! Been there, doing/done that!! It may not be comfortable, but these are the kinds of discussions my fixer and I have had to have. I think fixers...ok, guys!...have a harder time with the whole 'no control' than I do. I absolutely have complete confidence in the ability of RA to 'be the boss'!!
We have a great working relationship with RA right now...my husband gets his joy from thinking of things to make my life easier, and I look up at him and bat my eyelashes and assure him that he is the Master of Creative Living in my eyes! It has taken time for him, but he sees how RA can muscle its way in anytime it wants to. His answer is to, by golly, find a way to say "HA! You might hurt her, but boy, do I know how to make her feel better!" Even when his ideas are less than perfect, I tend to "ooh" and "aah" anyway!