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Please help me
ginlyn
Friday, November 21, 2008 at 02:55 AMre: Please help me
Melisabee
Friday, November 21, 2008 at 03:05 AMBoth hands/fingers both hips and both feet. The doctor I saw was a family practice general gp I guess. It was just blood work no other tests. I also have little lumps the size of peas on the inside of my feet, she did see those but did not make a diagnosis. I called for a rheumatology appointment we only have a few here where I live and there is a 3 month waiting period unless you have a doctors referral. She didn't spend much time looking at my hands or my feet. This pain started gradually in my feet at first, then the hands/fingers, then the stiffness, then the hip pain. But at first it would all come and go until July then it seems like my bad days were far out numbering my good days. Is it common to just be dismissed by a doctor like this or am I that naive? Thanks so much for replying I really do feel like I am going to lose it.
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ginlyn
Friday, November 21, 2008 at 03:42 AMIs there anyway you can go to a second gp or internist have them look and basically see if they will give you a referral. Or go to a second doctor see if you can get them to look and see if you can get a referrel. If that doesn't work then call and make an appointment with Rhuematologist even though it will be a 3 month wait.
Unfortunatly GP's and internist don't know what they are looking for it isn't their area.
I wish I could be of more help.
I know it is hard but just remember this you can't afford to lose you need to find a Doctor to help you. You will have really bad days and sometimes good days. I the bad days you turn to our forum to talk to and vent to no matter what it is wheather you are diagnosed or not
Ginlyn
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Jenny2008
Friday, November 21, 2008 at 01:39 PMI can empathize with some of the things you are going through. I began have severe pains May 2008 and wasn't formally diagnosed with RA until October 2008. My regular physician kept insisting I had regular arthritis (osteoarthritis) even when I showed tell-tale signs of RA and the pain was so severe, plus my mom had RA. He was very reluctant to refer me to a rheumatologist and thank God he did! I now have another physician and am seeing a rheumatologist regularly. I also encourage you to see a Rheumatologist if you can. I've learned that a person can have RA but it doesn't always show up in tests right away because it can mask as other forms of arthritis(osteo, lupus, fibromyalgia, etc...) Good luck to you and hugs!

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Rheumatoid Arthritis
Peggy Davis
Friday, November 21, 2008 at 02:29 PMI think you should a second opinion, I am going through a crisises of pain now and the doctor just want give me all different kinds of pain meds. I really don't know if there is anything that can be done about the arthritis except when you go to bed at night put a bar of white soap under your bottom sheet and put it where every your body hurts. If you hurt all over just use several bars of soap, that might help you feel better it's a old remedy.
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bucko27
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Bekah
Sunday, November 23, 2008 at 08:52 AMThere is a small chance that you can have RA and not have positive blood work. The only problem is you have to see a rheumatologist that sees outside the box and as mine says treats me the patient not the paperwork from the bloodwork. He could tell my joints were swollen, but my test were run 6-12 months apart for RA and both came back negative. He then tried me on a round of Prednisone and said if the prednisone worked then we were dealing with inflamation. I felt a lot better on it. So he diagnosed me with RA and now is treating me for that and unfortuantely because of the bloodwork coming back negative and delayed treatment you can look at my hands and see that I have RA becasue in just about 18 months they have started to get crooked from it. I would recomend asking them to try the prednisone if that's what you feel likt it is. It works with in a couple of days and you are only on it for about 2 weeks. They won't keep you on it long term. For me it was just basically a test. It could be something else, but sometimes, doctors just treat what the bloodwork skowes especially if they aren't a specialist. Until I got in with my rheumatoligist myfamily dr. just kept giving me more meds. Best of luck!
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cheryl
Sunday, November 23, 2008 at 03:46 PMDon't wait, see a second doctor. RA is hard at first to diagnose. Get a second or even a third opinion if you have to. Fish oil capsules work great as long as they are from pure norewegion waters. Acaci juice is good for pain too. you don't need a prescription. Best of luck, I hope this helps.
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Phillip
Monday, November 24, 2008 at 02:43 AMI'm very sorry you are going through this. Several years back I thought for sure I was dying. I had no idea what was wrong with me and for a long time neither did the doctors. I actually never expected to have RA, but I did. The one good thing is that they were able to diagnose me quickly after the blood test as I had - quote - "the highest count we've ever seen here."
The point being is that a lot of symptoms can make it seem like other problems. The doctors many times are just throwing darts blindfolded even though they might make us think they know everything.
I'm not trying to give doctors in general a bad wrap, but I've learned that if we don't educate ourselves in our conditions and our treatments... then we can easily lose the battle.
My advice to you is basically the same as the other posters here. Definitely get another opinion. You have some illness and you need to make them pinpoint what it is. Do whatever you have to do to see a rheumatologist... if the bloodtest is negative then a regular doctor will not know what to look for most of the time.
I have one more suggestion for you, there is another disease that sometimes goes along with RA, but it can also be present without RA. It is called Sjogren's syndrome. Sjogren's can cause many of the same problems that RA can as it also messes up your immune system. I'm not saying that you have it, but I do know for a fact that it is very easy for even a normal doctor to order the bloodtest for it. I just had my doc to do it for me and all he did was check a box on his computer adding it to my routine bloodwork. (They already think I have Sjogren's, but if I get a positive bloodtest for it then it helps with disability.) It can't hurt to ask for this.
Good luck with your journey. Don't give up, you will find out eventually and then there should be some great support for you.
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sister in pain!!
melanie
Monday, November 24, 2008 at 07:43 AMoh you poor dear sister in pain. i've been through about 6-7 yrs of trying to find out if i really have RA or not. i had the same stuff, pain and i call it "tightness" in my joints, horrible neck pain and really bad pain in my tail-bone for yrs before my family doctor sent me to a rheumatologist. if that is who is treating you (a rheumatologist), go back again and again and again with complaints, if the doctor gets irritated, go to another rheumatologist. where i live, we only have about 5, so i've told myself not to be doctor hopping, that makes them really mad. here's my story, i've had back pain since high school, i just turned 50, 2 yrs ago my rheumy finally sent me to a neurosurgeon due to con't neck pain and numbness in my hands, well, he said i had no disc's left in the 2 bottom cervical spaces, so i had a fusion of my neck. it made a world of difference, way less neck pain now. well, for yrs i've also had bad pain in the joints of my sacrum. you can feel those joints if you sit on your hand and press up high on the cheek of your butt and press inward. those spots were killing me, i also started noticing that my ribs hurt and my eyes were so dry i finally took it upon myself to go to an opthalmologist and he put in puntal plugs, that also made a world of difference. well, since the beginning i've never tested positive for RA, none of the inflammatory tests or the genetic testing came back positive. but i have a family history of RA, paternal grandmother was severely crippled and my mother tested positive, but never had really big problems. so, my doctor is assuming i have RA with spondylosis of the sacroiliac joints. so, with trial and error i've takes all the drugs and now i'm on celebrex, methotrexate (just started 2wks ago), humira, doxycycline and ultram for pain and hydrocodone rarely when it's really bad. before i had neck surgery i had to have an EMG done, the neurologist said that 25% of people with RA test negative forever, that these people have a lot of pain, some inflammation and swelling but not a lot and that these don't have the crippling effects like people who test positive. so, that's encouraging, but makes me crazy to think i have this problem - probably. that i have to live with it and these dangerous drugs forever and have to deal with pain every day. i'm an RN and i've had to change jobs 4 times this year because i couldn't do what was expected of me. it's become embarassing, but i keep plugging along. i don't even want to think of the day when i have to admit i can't do it anymore. anyway, hope my little rant helped you feel not so alone. e-mail me anytime if you'd like, i'd love to be able to give you a pep-talk!! take care, keep that pain controlled !! melanie meiel@aol.com
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Lynne
Monday, November 24, 2008 at 10:42 AM -
Rheumatoid Arthritis diagnosisou
Galen Gilchrist
Monday, November 24, 2008 at 01:14 PMFrom Galen in Vermont:
Please, please, please for your body and emotionals that go along with Rheumatoid Arthritis find a Rheumatologist who can and will help you. The Rheumatoid factor often does not show up in blood tests and sometimes it will show up and not show up the next time and so on. I have had RA for 40 years and I empathize with what you are going through. You need to be on a proper drug regimen with follow up. If you cannot find a Rheumatologist in your area definitely get a second opinion from another doctor, one who is compasssionate about your condition. You seem to be going throgh a rough time right now so finding the right doctor is imperative. Good luck, I wish you well. There is help out there, but you sometimes have to seek it out aggressively.
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Re: Melisabee - Please help me...
Joyce
Monday, November 24, 2008 at 01:32 PMPlease, Please don't wait. Go back to your primary & tell him/her that you want the referral to the Rheumatologist and get that appointment and a second opinion - with or without the referral ! It's YOUR health and a GP, although maybe a great person, doesn't know everything. I was in the same situation last year as you are right now. It took me over 6 months to find the right Rheumatologist... the first one I went to examined me and proclaimed that I did not have RA, that it was 'in my head'. Needless to say, I found another Rheumatologist!
While you're waiting to see the Rheumatologist, try to help yourself feel better.
One way is by modifiying your diet - many of us (RA sufferers) actually DO have an allergic reaction to the Deadly Nightshade family vegetables (potatoes, tomatoes, any kind of peppers, and eggplant - look it up online). If you have any sensitivity to these foods - which you may not have noticed before the RA set in - once you eliminate those items from your diet, you will have less pain and stiffness. Not eating those foods helped me. I noticed alot of relief after 2-3 weeks. Then, I added an extra B-Complex Vitamin, Ginger Root (5 grams), DHEA, Iodine, and Flax Seed Oil capsules to my regular Daily Multi-Vitamin & C supplement. The supplements will take less time to help you, say about a day or two. Don't worry about overdosing on the vitamins, unless it's vitamin A or D, they are water soluable and will pass through your system if not needed.
I was so desperate that I had my Gyn/Ob check out my hormone levels. All were very low and I started on Bio-Identical Hormones. After about two weeks, alot of the stiffness went away. I'm not saying that the Bio-Hormones cured me, they just helped - alot more than I expected.
RA is your immune system gone wacky and no-one knows why. Your body "runs" on chemistry. Who knows what hormone imbalances can cause? I certainly don't, but I was willing to try anything to help my body get back on track.
I finally got in to a very good Rheumatologist and he put me on Methotrexate which has been a bumpy ride for me, but well worth it. He says I'll soon have to go on another drug, such as Humira, because my last blood test showed signs of the RA increasing. I don't like taking sythetic drugs, but at least I know I'm doing everything I can do from a natural standpoint with my diet, vitamins & supplements, and the Bio-Identical hormones.
Please, don't wait, learn & do everything you can to help yourself and find a Rheumatologist who will listen to you and respects your ideas, opinions, etc.
Good Luck and Take Care of Yourself.
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First I am sorry you are having such a hard time. Second what kind of Doctor did you go see? Yes I would go To a Rhuematologist Arthritis Doc get a referal if you need to. Yes I would go to a second doctor and third if needed you need to find one who listens to you. Are you having trouble with both hands are there other joints effecting you. Blood test are not the only way to get diagnosed some times it takes a long time for blood tests to show positive, did this Doctor even feel your joints. You have to become your own advocate. If you have RA the sooner your diagnosed the sooner you can be started on meds.
Ginlyn