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gina5595
Saturday, December 06, 2008 at 11:45 PMI agree 100%!!! I am tired of having to explain that no, whether you like or not, this is not a contest to see who has more pain, who has more joint damage etc. osteo and rheumatoid are two very different diseases. It is truly like a box of very cheap chocolate, you NEVER know what you're going to get from one day to the next. I wish just once that I could tell someone that I have RA and they would not try to out-do me and just ask if there is anything they could do to make my day any easier. My family is great, for the most part I have no complaints. My husband picks up most of the slack if I'm having a really bad day. I feel like I can't talk to him about everything. It's just too much, ya know? Anyway, I totally agree with all that you said and look forward to hearing from you in the future. Chin up!
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Hope
Sunday, December 07, 2008 at 06:30 PMDon' t feel bad. Most people believe that ignorance is bliss. My inlaws don't believe there could possibly be anything wrong because I never look sick the three times of year that they see. My husband says don't say autoimmune disease to them because they'll just think you have AIDS, how silly I said but he was right. There are just some people you can't talk to no matter how old or what eduacation they have. Find someone who has the disease or one like it, I'm lucky I got from my father and he his mother so I have some one who understands. Hang in there, there is someone who will understand what you are going through.
Dealing With RA
feeling.great
Monday, December 08, 2008 at 08:39 AMI can identify with everything you are saying too. Anytime anyone hears the term "arthritis" they usually assume its a little joint pain and have no idea about the symptoms of RA. I have been very fortunate that my RA seems to be under control. I am now taking Humira and Methotrexate and I am doing pretty good. I used to get specific joint inflammation, but in the last few years the soreness occurs all over. There are times when I get sore and run a low fever. This occurs mostly after I have over worked or over played the previous day. I hope that your RA could be better controlled. When I started taking Humira I was in pretty bad shape. I had been off medicine for almost two years. I had ulcerative collitis and was swollen all over. I was taking, at times, two vicodins every 6 hours. But the morning after I started the Humira I knew that something good was up. I felt just a little lighter. And every day it got a little better. Within three weeks the swelling was going down and my pain went away. I have been able to pretty much lead a normal life since then. So, I hope that anyone reading this will have a chance to try one of the bio drugs. I have read that there is no reason anyone with RA can't be medicated to lead normal lives.
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Jenny2008
Monday, December 08, 2008 at 09:18 AMHi feeling.great, I noticed in your post you are taking Methotrexate and Humira. I was just diagnosed in October 2008 with severe RA and my rheum. started me on Metho. right away. He'll add Humira in January. The Metho. is working really well and I'm surpirsed this soon. Although, I've been having the severe pain and all the symptoms since May 2008. (It took getting a new PCP and finally getting a referral to a Rheum. and getting a diagnosis). I'm nervous about starting the Humira as I've never been on heavy meds like that or Metho. before. I know the benefits outweigh the risks or side effects too but just the same... I'm a worrier too so that doesn't help. I have confidence in my rheum. and he is positive about it. I'm glad it's working for you and I hope it continues to work for you.
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feeling.great
Monday, December 08, 2008 at 10:06 AMThanks Jenny. A good attitude is always helpful too. When I got the email address feeling.great I was feeling pretty miserable. And somehow I always knew I would get better. Fortunately I did. I wouldn't worry about the medication so much. But, I consider the metho the more dangerous drug. You might experience some hair loss and rash. Also, they don't recommend getting in the sun much. Just make sure you take the Folic acid every day. Right now I am back taking Plaquenil (hydroxoclorequine) along with the other meds in an effort to cut down on the metho at some future point. I don't know if it will work or not but it is worth the try. The doctor probably told you that it will take awhile(two to three months) for the methotrexate to work. So, I think you are pretty lucky. But it also might be premature to assume you are doing better since the disease seems to cycle with good days and bad ones. You know it seems that auto immune diseases are now occuring at all ages and at a greater rate than ever before. This might be because we have introduced so many chemicals into our food. Anyway, I wish you all the best and complete remission. Danny
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Jenny2008
Monday, December 08, 2008 at 11:06 AMThanks Danny,
You are right, I plan on being cautious and not overdo it as I used to do. Is the Plaquenil better than Methotrexate in terms of side effects? I haven't researched that one. I take folic acid every day and am working on drinking more water. I read that too, in an article... it was either here or on WebMd about RA becoming more prevalent these days. My Mom had it and was diagnosed in her 40s. I figure in my case it's half heredity and half stress induced. Looking back, I can see how a combination of events and circumstances probably triggered it... but I know I need to focus on the present and take care of myself and learn as much as I can about it. Take care and happy holidays!
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feeling.great
Monday, December 08, 2008 at 11:44 AMWell Jenny, Plaquenil is much better on the side effects. It can damage the eye but is rare if it does. They have the back of your eyes examined annually just to be sure. But, I've been told by a rheumy that Plaquenil is a weaker drug. Back in 90 when I was diagnosed they didn't have that many drugs so Plaquenil was prescribed as I had a moderate case of RA. I took only Plaquenil for years and most of the time took a litlle less than what was prescribed as long as it was working. Unfortunately, I decided to quit on my own one day. I told the doctor and they didn't say yea or nay. Two months later I was in big trouble, swollen all over and with major pain. And this is how I got on Methotrexate. Plaquenil is a quinine drug and was discovered several years ago as it was used to treat malaria. There were a lot of people who, aftertaking it, their RA symptoms went away. I might be still taking just it today if I hadn't messed up and stopped it. I don't think doctors prescribe it much today, especially for severe RA which is what you have. Still it doesn't hurt to ask the doctor about it, I guess. It is certainly a lot cheaper that Humira. Take care Jenny.
Danny
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Jenny2008
Monday, December 08, 2008 at 09:10 AMI can relate to what you're saying. I was just diagnosed with severe RA in October. It is very frustrating when people compare RA to OA or when they say "oh, you're too young to have arthritis". I then inform the person that it is not an age disease, that it can effect children, teens, adults and the elderly. Sure, mostly what we hear or are shown in public or in the media is elderly people with it. Even commercials. I agree that the media needs to rethink their commercials for arthritis, RA, etc... and not just show elderly people playing with grandkids. I know it's a personal choice when and whom to share the disease with but I don't mind sharing it with most people either. In particular, when I quit my job in October. Thanks for your post! Good luck to you and hugs.

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pain contest
Feels like the TinMan
Monday, December 08, 2008 at 10:30 AMHi Star,
yes, been there too. most of my circle of friends completely understand what i'm going thru. Fortunately,being newly DX, my drug combo of prednisone and plaquenil is working magnificently! i have no pain anymore, except for the occasional stray pain, now and again, and it's not that bad. i am not wearing my pain on my face anymore, so no one is asking anymore questions, thank god. the worse culprit is my husband. he refuses to acknowledge anything is wrong and that it's 'only arthritis, geez'....i was angry at him for no support but now i don't care anymore. it's MY problem now. my 16 yr old daughter is very intuitive and knows i'm doing well, and still offers to help me with things just in case. in the beginning, i heard the same thing from others, about having the pain in the pinky finger, or the right knee. i got tired of saying, "well, fortunately for you, it's not the same thing. consider yourself lucky that you don't have to feel like you got hit by a truck everyday" i tried not to be sarcastic about it. now that my RA is 'under control' no one is asking anymore. thank goodness!! i'm learning sometimes it's just better to keep my mouth shut and live with it. it's just easier. you're right, RA education is definitely lacking!! good luck and hopefully it gets better for you!
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Celeste
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 at 11:16 PMWhen I read your blog I really thought I wrote it, it sounds like me, only I quit my job 2 years ago. I have methro and have taken it with Humira but I did not feel any better and my doctor stopped the Humira. I hate taking the metho, it gets me sick. I am looking for a new doctor since we just dont seem to be able to really talk. I had read a blog where some doctors are like that, they just dont know how to handle cronic pain, and I really think that's mine, its hi, how you feeling, take blood and thats about it. She looks at my form and sometimes makes comments on it, like hmmm still takes you that long in the morning..... well I am trying natural stuff now, I take the flax oil and want to get the colloidol silver. I agree that the public needs to understand but so do the families. My kids do not understand nor do they think about it at all, as they dont live by us and when they call and I am having a bad day - they really dont have a clue. They see the same commericals as everyone else does and think the same, you can take meds and just live normally. I too hold most of my pain to myself, but some days that mack truck is parked out side my door. When the pain is bearable I find the fatigue frustrating. I never used to nap and now I have a hard time getting through a day with out one. Keep your chin up - there is help for us out there somewhere.
Celeste
Holistic and Natural Approach
Anonymous
Thursday, December 11, 2008 at 07:39 PMre: Holistic and Natural Approach
Tiffany
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 07:04 PMHi, I have RA & have been on conventional meds for about 2 years. I take Prednisone 5mg daily in the morning so by the night time the anti-inflamation effect is gone. To help me thru the night I took "pure" 100% fresh Royal Jelly, 1/8 tsp (recommended 1/4 tsp) 1 or 2 hours before going to bed. On the first night, I was amazed of its effect. I felt like my RA was completely gone. I continued to take pure Royal Jelly nightly since for about 2 months. I don't have that great feeling as the 1st night any more, but I think bec my body gets used to it. After 2 months of pure Royal Jelly, I started to feel teeth clenching. My husband told me that he had the same symptom when he took royal jelly. I stopped royal jelly and my teeth clenching seemed to diminish after 2 or 3 days. I guess human body works its own way, so we get side effects from conventional meds or even natural ingredients that we human don't normally consume daily. I would take pure royal jelly again some day to sleep better at night, but not every day for a long period. I'm currently looking into some other natural supplements, and plan to alternate so my body doesn't get used to the same thing.
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Arthritis
Dee
Saturday, December 20, 2008 at 05:01 PMRead your personal inputs on RA and comments. I wish all of you well, The most pleasant of Xmasses and best of New Years.
I can relate to all you are saying. Personally I have both RA and OA. Neither is nice to experience. I was one of those die hard no drugs people until I could no longer get out of a wheel chair. My daughter draged me to the family MD who could not believe my condition. Immediat. put me on steroids which get me on my feet but not walking.
Summery:::::::::::::there were tests. Last Dec. (2007) I had a total hip replacement. From that point on my condition has improved meraculously. Can walk with a stride on my own, but on distances a cane is used. Now we are working on the upper body parts. Seems a platoue has been reached with plaquinl. and metho.
The thinking is to add humera and posibly start to decrease the other drug(s). I personally would like to get off of the plaqun. Maybe next week as I think it bothers
my eyes, I understand that eyes recover when get off the plaqu.. Will talk to MD about decreasing the metho. also. I am trying out omrga 3 fatty acids. Have been on them three and one half days and there seems to be a bit less swelling already and better range of movement. Too soon to tell for sure. Then too, the phytoplankton I have been taking for three months probably also helps. The last two items do not interfear with the drugs but check in with your MD on all that.
A + attitude (although at times hard to muster up), meditation and prayer help at least as much as the meds.......................... While we can move let us live as best we can. Dee
re: Arthritis
Margie
Saturday, December 20, 2008 at 08:31 PMI wish everyone a merry Christmas and a happy new year. And yes, I can relate to everything that you're saying.I have both RA & OA also.
Yours is a lot worse than mine,and I wish you the best. I complain when my groin,hurts too much, are my hip &leg and lower back. You make me feel like I
just had a good day. God Bless You
Margie
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Thanks for Your Comments
StarHill13
Sunday, December 21, 2008 at 12:30 PMThank you all for sharing your comments. At least I feel like what I'm experiencing is normal.
I'm trying curcumin supplements, and they seem to be helping. I had no pain at all yesterday, but then today I got up and hobbled down the stairs, trying not to twist my achy ankles, and I've got an ache in my hip. My ankles stopped hurting now that I've been up for a couple of hours. I guess there's no magic cure, but it would be nice if a natural remedy would work. I'm kind of scared of the Plaquenil, since it can ruin your eyesight, but the other drugs are even more dangerous. Then, I've read posts by others who regret not taking meds because now their joints are really damaged. It doesn't give one much hope for the future.
So far I've only had x-rays of my hands, and the joints were fine, just some mild thinning of bone mass in my knuckes. My GP told me to take calcium, and I'm on a vitamin D prescription anyway, because I had a deficiency. My aches and pains are in all of my large joints; my fingers and toes are the only things that don't hurt.
You would think science could have figured out something for the fatigue by now. For years I wondered what was wrong with me, only to have doctors tell me to lose weight or that I was depressed. Now that I know, it's hard to believe a disorder with the word "arthritis" in it can make me so tired all over. I think that's what most people don't get is the systemic concept. For me, the fatigue is actually much worse than the pain. I can live with aches and pains, but sometimes I can't function from the fatigue.
Thanks for all of your input, and everyone take it easy and have a Happy Holidays!
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Issadora
Monday, December 22, 2008 at 07:47 AMI have had JRA since i was a little girl and it's always what you described with the addition to... 'i didn't know kids could get arthritis'.... or some other denial sentence of that sort.... sometimes i am lightly sarcastic about it but mostly I TRY to inform people even though I can tell that a great deal of the time, it just flies over their head as they continue to talk about how they dang toe aches when its cold. Sometimes I really want to yell at them when Im sitting in my wheelchair because of JRA and they are comparing their arthritis in one joint that bothers them vaguely once in awhile to what Im dealing with! Augh!!
And the commercials are the worse... I must say the MEdia really has made thigns WAY worse than it needs to be. They just perpetuate the reasons why our diseases are not taken seriously in politics, health care, by many doctors and out own relatives and families. I took two _____ and I could dance all night! Yeh right.
It's so funny because I ws commenting about how DUMB that commerical was stating that I didnt know RA could attack my joints.... I said WHAT'!! That's the very DEFINITION of RA in the first place.. how can they say somethign SO STUPID in a commercial!!! That's like saying I didnt know Asthma could effect my breathing!!! **rolls eyes....as you can see, you have really written about soemething that has hit a bitter note with me... lol. Mostly i have learned to make a joke out of it but it does tend to annoy me despite my smile. I have heard the same comments and even had similar discussions with other young adults like myself at juvenile arthritis conferences around the country.
Oh my favorite story ever is this one. A couple of JA buddies and I were at the Juvenile arth. conference in Washington State and got to the hotel a bit early on check in day. We decided to go to the mall and the driver of one of the hotel vans was a nice kinda flirty young man. When he picked us back up to bring us back to the hotel. he commented that we were welcome to call him ANY TIME we needed a ride because it wasgoing to be a horrible weekend with a 'bunch of old people with arthritis at this arthritis conference happening." Boy I bet he was embarassed when the three of us burst into outragous laugher and informed him that actually all of us have arthritis and that the hotel will be filled with kids, parents, teens and probably not that many elderly will be around here that belong to THIS conference!!!Anyways... Cheers..
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I am right there with you
Mary Collins
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 at 10:58 AMThank you, thank you, now I know I am not crazy! Up down, pain, no pain, sick, not sick, I think RA is the multiple personality disorder of auto-immune diseases. And yes, no one seems to get it! How could they? I have been living with it for 5 years now and I still can't believe how all over the place I feel - sometimes I feel great and can do so much and some days I feel like an old woman at 42. I am on Enbrel and Metho it works ok, but still not symptom free and still have very bad days. The metho makes me feel like crap - when I get the flu and I can't take it that week, I actually feel like I have had a vacation from how crappy it makes me feel - even with the flu symptoms!! Doc say there is no reason you should not be symptom free with meds, but then never changes anything when I say I am feeling bad - it's "try losing some weight, have you been going to the gym?" Yeah, right, I am doing good alot of days to go to work. And why the heck is it that the one symptom I didn't get is unexplained weight loss?? THAT one I could get behind! Does anyone else still get sick and TIRED from the metho even though you have been taking it a long time?
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StarHill13
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 at 06:09 PMLOL!
I loved your comment about the multiple personality of autoimmune disorders! I have a new post about the yo-yo thing. One day I forget there's anything wrong with me, and the next day I'm looking at canes, and about ready for a retirement home. My body seems unable to decide whether it wants to be sick or not.
And, I can't imagine trying to exercise after a full day of work. When I first found out about my test results and started reading about RA I said to my husband, "One of the symptoms is weight loss? WHEN???" And, the Plaquenil says a side effect of it can be weight loss, too. So, I have RA...I'm taking Plaquenil...and it's not working!!! At least if I had that symptom there would be one positive thing about all of this!
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Annmarie
Saturday, December 27, 2008 at 12:53 PMI understand what you are saying. I get the same kind of responses from people at work. I have days when I feel lousy and days when I am 100 percent energenic.
They won't understand how someone feels until they read about RA, or get it themselves. I am 55 years old, so the reaction from others is just take vitamins or exercise more, etc.
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everyone has arthritis
Anonymous
Sunday, December 28, 2008 at 02:13 PMi just had to comment on your comment that everyone has arthritis. yep they do... i was jus diagnosed with RA 2 weeks ago. and i am just trying to find out as much information as i can. i hurt, as you all do. and so far whenever i have told anyone i was being tested for RA or that i was diagnosed with it they seem to all say the same thing. they have or know someone that has arthritis they do not understand. this will not go away. and is just not the same. i just needed someone to talk to and have turned to the computer as it seems you people may be the only ones that understand how much this hurts.
anyway this is my first try at the computer. i was suppost to start methotrexate last week and well with my retail job i hated to start it and side affects the week before christmas in retail just didn't seem smart. and now i have a cold and cough so i can not start it this week. ugh.. so i am goig to sit here and read; more and try to figure all this out.
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Misconception of RA
Sunni
Monday, February 16, 2009 at 06:33 PM
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Well, everything you just wrote, I feel the same way! I had to laugh when you mention that commerical...I didnt know RA could affect my joints.....what joke! I couldnt believe they said that...it should say..I didnt know that my immune system could attack my joints, eyes, heart, muscles, tendons,..etc....ha...
And your right, those dont understand who dont know...they only hear the arthritis part and its end of story for them...
Hang in there, I know its very flustrating and stressful...easier said than done...but after a while, you learn to pick and chose who to tell what is going on.
good luck and your not alone....