Friday, June 27, 2008 ScrapHappy asks

Q: OMG! MTX and hair loss?!

Just doing some surfing on the MyRACentral.com site and came across some posts about MTX and hair loss! Is this true? Someone mentioned being on high dose of MTX (6 pills), I started at 4 pills, next week 5 pills, then jumped to 7 pills and my rheumatologists plan is to get me to 10 pills (25 mg). So far I don't think I'm experiencing any side effects. I'm used to be tired all the time (who isn't?!) I have three kids, work full time, commute 8+ hours per week. The fatigue is nothing compared to what I experienced before being diagnosed and medicated for hypothyroidism several years ago. Should I anticipate side effects as I increase my dosage? I think I can handle almost anything except HAIR LOSS - OMG! Apologies for my vanity.

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Lene Andersen, Health Guide
6/27/08 11:25am

We all have different side effects that freak us out, so don't worry about the vanity.  I've just read about the possibility of hair loss with meth, as well, and was surprised. I guess it makes sense, given that it's a chemo drug, but RA people are usually on a fairly low dose compared to people who have cancer.  When I was starting meth and freaking out about the drug, my doctor told me that the usual side effects associated with chemo therapy likely wouldn't happen due to the dosage level.  I didn't lose my hair - in fact, my hair got thicker and more curly and that stuck around even after I moved on to other medications.  We're all different and  react differently to medications.  If you're doing well on the drug with minimal side effects, enjoy it, take a deep breath and relax.  Many people do very well for years on the drug.  If at some point you develop side effects that make it difficult to tolerate methotrexate (whether physically or emotionally), talk to your rheumatologist - there are a number of other options. 

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6/27/08 4:16pm

Dang!  I guess I'm just destined to comment on all your posts!  Hope I'm not being too terribly creepy....yet.  Wink  So I always used to make fun of vain people, until I became one of them.  What can I say things just started inexplicably moving around on me?!  Anyway, I've been on "the meth" for two months and I have noticed completely nothing in the hair loss department.  We RA folks are given WAY smaller dosages typically than a cancer paitient would so I really don't think it is a "given" that all our hair falls out.  Besides, it is my understanding this potential side effect is controlled with great success by the additional folic acid that is prescribed. 

 

I mean I'll let you know if I wake up one morning like Telly Sevalis, I totally promise!  But until then I've also come to the conclusion, with all the other stuff RA can bring?  I'm not sure losing my hair would totally top my list of concerns.  Hell yeah, it would have at one point, but that's what I've arrived at.  All the same, why can't any of these meds give us bigger boobs and make the vericose veins go away??  I mean seriously?!

 

Good luck to you ScrapHappy and don't be a stranger!

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7/ 1/08 1:15pm

I too am new to this whole RA thing and meth.  My doc put me on 6 pills starting out (have had a rough time) so I hope the 4 to start works better for you!!!  But to answer your question about hair loss, I have been on this for about a month and have noticed some thining but nothing too major, just a few extra strands....nothing like taking the higher doses (for cancer!!). 

Good luck, I wish you the best!

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7/ 4/08 3:13pm

Hi, I have been on mtx for a year and have had hair loss.  No, I'm not bald, but I've had extreme thinning to the point that when my hair is wet there are spots where I can see my scalp.....mostly at the top and sides of my head.  When my hair is dry, it isn't that noticeable.....but that is cause my hair is curly.  (It use to be super thick, too)  I am also on other meds which cause thinning of the hair, and they did, but I have been on those for years.  My doc said that it would slow down, the hair loss and it has, but there were many a days that I would just cry in the shower when I would feel the hair just sliding down my back and legs.  Over time I have grown accustomed to it, but it was very hard in the beginning.

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8/ 1/08 1:41am

I have used methotrexate since 2000.  For two or three periods of time I have lost some hair, but  a little all over, so it isn't noticeable.  Also, I have very thick hair to begin with.  About 2 years ago my hair started getting curly.  I'm still trying to learn how to deal with that.

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9/12/08 2:05pm

Just last week I discovered that I had been losing a lot of hair for the past few months, and it is now, thin, wiry and freezy, unlike my very thick, smooth, shiny and wavy hair that everyone always complimented me on. I can see a clear through my hair to my scalp in the front.  I even lost some of my eyelashes, an they are also shorter and coarser. I've taken MTX for about two years, started at 4 pills then increased to 6 for a long time, then 8 recently.  This hair loss started just a few months ago, so I was caught by surprise after being on MTX without hair loss. I never expected it. I take 8 MTX pills per week (increased in January from 6) for my RA and nothing else, except the 1 mg. Folic Acid that helps with the side effects of MTX that I must take. Months ago I asked my doctor to take me off the Prednisone, but he didn't lower my MTX when I asked.  I called him alarmed about my hair loss and he said to take only 6 MTX and double the dosage of Folic Acid to 2 mg. I feel like quitting altogether because I am so despondent.  My RA is very much in control, only little pain in wrists and hands, with MTX and the doctor says I will relapse if I stop it.  Other treatments he said would be Humira or Remicaid, that my insurance won't pay for, and I think are too drastic for my RA.  I'm still losing hair.  I will see what I can do about improving my situation and I will post here what happens.  Try to grab your hair in a pony tail and measure the girth, and keep measuring it to see if it starts thinning, and I don't recommend harsh hair dyes, too much brushing with hard brush, blow drying or flat iron treatments because I don't know if this pulling and heat will make matters worse, as they probably did for me. The damage is internal (hair follicles are killed) so maybe it doesn't make much difference.  Also, do your labs every 4 to 6 weeks to check for other more dangerous side effects.  That's what I haven't done either, but I am going tomorrow.

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9/12/08 2:43pm

Just last week I discovered a lot of hair loss, and my hair got very thin, wiry and freezy. It had been happening for some months but I didn't notice because I always had such thick hair. I had started with 4 MTX about 2 years ago, then went on to 6 with Prednisone, then just to 8 MTX without Prednisone.  I started that higher dosage earlier in the year. Just two months ago my hair was great; thick, shiny, wavy, and manageable. Even my eyelashes are shorter and fall out, too.  I called the doctor and he said to just lower dosage to 6 MTX (to 15 mgs. as opposed to 20 mgs.) and to double my Folic Acid to 2 mgs. daily.  I am so worried that I will lose more hair that I want to stop taking MTX altogether, but the doctor said that my RA will "come back" as I now have it under control with very little pain.  Now I have to get the labs I never did to make sure I don't have some other serious side effects that I never worried about.  Be sure to take your folic acid and try and work with your doc to keep your MTX dosage lower, I think dosage depends on how well it can manage your RA.  But after this, I don't know if I can trust doctors (esp. bald ones like the one I now have) to provide me with all the info I need.  They  never mentioned the hair loss, and it's one of the most common side effects, although not the most dangerous.  They don't even insist on getting my labs.  Our health is really up to us.  Stay informed.  For now I strongly recommend that you do your labs, and monitor your hair thickness.  I will see how I can improve my situation and will post here. 

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10/10/08 7:25pm

I also take mtx at  high dose (9 pills)  I have been taking it for a over a year.  My hair is also falling out,so much so it clogs the drain in the bath tub at least once week.  I  would discuss not taking it with your dr. , thats what I plan to do.

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5/19/09 8:50am

Hi ScrapHappy,

I had been taking MTX for two years.  My hair has gone from being very thick and curly, to being thin and wavy.  The hair comes out by the root so every time I wash it or comb it I get a clump of hair.  When my hair is wet or gelled you can see through to my scalp, it's clear that I'm balding.

Short hair isn't really an option for me - I look more boyish than I want to with short hair.  I took the folic acid regularly - it didn't matter for hair loss, although it made a difference for mouth sores.

A couple of months ago, I stopped the MTX, hoping that remicade and plaquinil would be enough.  I had a bad flare and a return to daily, difficult symptoms Frown.  And the hair doesn't seem to be growing back. Now, I'm trying to decide what to do.

I hope you find something that works without crappy side effects!

--Nikki

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By ScrapHappy— Last Modified: 06/16/12, First Published: 06/27/08