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Q: What is wrong with me?

In spring of 2008 I started noticing my feet hurting a lot.  At the time I was running, preparing for a marathon, so naturally I thought it was due to the many miles I was putting in a week running.  As the pain started getting worse, I cut back quit a bit, until I quit running all together.  Every day I would sit on the couch unable to walk because of the pain in my feet.  At the time I continued to think I was just over doing things, running around all day, trying to keep up with my 5 small children.  By Sept 08, I would wake up every morning feeling like I had the flu.  I would lay around for a few hours trying to get myself to feel better.  As the day went on, the flu symptoms improved, and I would fell better.

  This went on for a few months, and then I started noticing I couldn't move my hands very well. They were SO stiff,  and hurt all the time.  I then noticed I couldn't wear my wedding ring anymore, and then from there (over the next few months) I couldn't write, hold brushes, open anything, and then my hands went numb, and have constantly stayed that way over the last 4 months. 

Back in May (about 3 months ago) I started getting sick.  About 2-3 days a week I would have days that I couldn't even get out of bed.  I was very weak, very tired, and every joint on my body hurt, from my jaw, to the back of my neck, shoulders, elbows, wrists, hands, knees and feet.  Everything on me felt like it was on fire, and it was all I could do just to walk across the room.  On my days I feel  "ok" my joints NEVER stop hurting, I just don't feel like I have the flu.

When I look at my hands (Especially the middle joints on my fingers) they are large and swollen, (always that way) and I can't make my fingers go flat down, they look almost twisted.

Finally about 3 weeks ago I broke down and went to the Dr.  Because of a job loss our family suffered,  we are on state insurance, and the Dr's I can see are very limited.  I have no coverage beyond family & internal Dr's.  The Dr. I saw was a family Dr.

Upon seeing this Dr. he treated me like I was just being dumb.  He then had me do some blood work, and then 3 days later had his nurse call me back and tell me everything was normal.  That's it, nothing more.  I just sat and cried.

I KNOW something is not right with me!  I live my life in pain, and spend at least a couple days a week in bed unable to cope.  This has been going on now for over a year, I didn't just run to the Dr the second I started experiencing symptoms.  I have 5 small kids I need to be a mom to, and can't keep living like this anymore.  As I am sitting here typing this my back of neck, feet, and hands are KILLING me.  This never stops, it's only got worse with time.  Rheumatoid Arthritis runs in my family. My grandpa and Aunt have it.  Is there a chance I may have this?

How do I find out what is going on with me when I am unable to get any answers from the Dr. I just saw.  He gave me NO other options.  I am not an idiot, I have never been to the Dr for anything else besides having my kids.  This is affecting my life so much right now, I don't know where to even go from here.  If something really is wrong with me wouldn't it show up in my blood work?  PLEASE HELP me!  What do i do?

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Lisa Emrich, Health Guide
8/14/09 4:42pm

Hi Julia,

 

You certainly have a lot on your plate.  I'm so sorry that you are experiencing so much pain.  Sometimes it's hard to get the doctors to truly listen to our concerns, but you shouldn't give up.  I would recommend that you keep a symptom diary in which you include the things you've done or foods you've eaten before you've felt the symptoms.

 

Then take that symptom diary and all of your questions and concerns with you when you see your doctor next.  In the meantime, there is a wealth of information right here at HealthCentral which you can read.  I recommend that you start with this page.

 

Become your own advocate.  Ask what testing the doctor orders (ie. blood work) and understand why each test is ordered.  And by all means, ask what can we do about the pain RIGHT NOW before a definitive diagnosis is made.

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8/16/09 11:33pm

Ok I understand just how you feel I have 4 small kids and have been having all the pain you have now. I have had alot of pain for about 8 years and I went through all the same stuff you are now. I went to about 5 doctors and they all treated me like I was crazy and told me that I was to young for this kind of pain but I think we know our body better then they do some of the doctors I would go to wouldnt even run any blood test and for a few years I even gave up and stoped going and just suffered with all the pain because I just felt dum but I want to tell you dont give up!! It took years but I found a good doctor and he ran all the blood test that I needed and found that my R.A factor was 38 when it should be under 20 so I was just diagnosed with R.A and Fibromyalgia and they also think I may have M.S. Please dont give up I know how hard it is to be in so much pain you cant even be a good mom. I have days that I cant even pick my 9 month old son up and I know about state insurance because I have it as well and it makes getting the help you need twice as hard. The state just messed up my medicaid and I havent seen my doctor in 3 months and never even got the chance to see my rheumatologist before they cut me off. I understand the way you feel and when I read what you wrote it felt like something I would write. I never got the chance to start any of the meds for the R.A but I cant wait too because now I depend only on pain meds and they dont work all that well for this kind of pain. I know that you can have R.A without having a high R.A factor and I would bring that up to your doctor as well and let him know about the family history and if he still acts like he doesnt care much then I would start looking for another doctor and keep going until you find one who really care's just dont let them break you down because you know how your body feels and no one can tell you that you are wrong. I felt really dum when I found out that I had R.A I was happy just because now people couldnt tell me I was crazy anymore it will make you feel better when they find out what is wrong because at lease you now know that you can get treatment but I wouldnt wish this disease on anyone. Also ask the doctors to test for lime disease because it acts just like R.A but that can be cured. Well I wish you the best of luck and if you ever want to talk or need any help with this just let me know I am not a doctor but up intil 3 months ago I was just were you are.

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8/17/09 12:52am

Thank you Lisa and Alicia, I really appreciate you both taking the time to respond to me.

I thought the Food Diary was a great Idea.  Infact I just had a long talk with my aunt yesterday who has RA, and she told me the same thing.  She said your diet, sleep, and water intake, affect the symptoms of RA quit a bit.  She advised me to do the same thing.  Thank you so much for your suggestion!

And Alicia, It's so nice to hear of someone who is in the same position as me.   I can't believe how much my quality of life has changed from what it was just a year ago.  As you know, being in the same position as me, being sick and in pain all the time, and having young kids is hard enough!  I just want an answer as to what I can do to help myself.  I don't want any disease, but that's what my DR. acts like I am wanting.  I just NEED to know how to help myself.  And when you go for so long trying all the things that you can try yourself, and they don't work, at all, you seek outside help.  And when that outside help does nothing for you, just blows you off, not really listening to you, not offering to dig a little deeper to find the answers, you find yourself at a complete hopeless loss.  That's the way I feel now.

So if you don't mind me asking, (you may have mentioned this) but you ended up with a RA Dr, who finally told you it really was RA?  What kind of other testing did he do besides the blood work?  And you got medicaid to pay for a RA Dr? Mine says "Not a chance!"  Would you suggest that's what I try next? (finding a way to see one)   I HATE GOING TO THE DR! and I don't want to feel like a complete idiot again, but I sure as heck can't continue to live like this anymore.    (one more question sorry.) but did you have the flu symptoms as well?  That's my biggest discourgment is not being able to pull myself out of bed, along with the horrible fatigue.  My pain is much more intense during these times, but at least when I have just the pain I can somewhat function as a mother.  My husband is working and going to school full-time, so I am pretty much on my own. 

Is your symptoms simular?  I hope you can get on medication soon, my aunt tells me being able to be on it makes a huge difference.  Her hands and feet are very disformed from RA, she tells me as well,  getting on the medication helps this from happening.  Good luck, let me know back when you get a minute.

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8/17/09 2:01am

I learned that I had R.A though my family doctor and he said that because I had all the symptoms of R.A and my blood work showed a high R.A factor. My hands are already starting to disform and I do have flu like symptoms. Doctors look at family history,Blood test and your symptoms. I tried to do the samething because my doctors acted like they didnt care I tired to go right to a rheuatologist and skip the doctors who didnt seem to care but that didnt work because they said that I would need a referral from my family doctor. I got to the point where I stoped asking and started telling them what I wanted from them. I Would ask first and if you dont get anywhere with that then I would just tell them look I am not looking for a disease I dont know anyone who would all I want is to find out what is wrong with me. It isnt normal for a health person to feel this way and if you are going to treat me like some kind of idiot then I will find another doctor. Tell him all you are looking for is a doctor who is going to do his job. Doctors dont always know it all trust me my sons doctors told me there was nothing wrong with him when he turned yellow and I had to see 3 differant doctors befour I found out that he was is full liver failure and only had 48 hours to live. I guess that is what made me strong and to tell these doctors what you want. I will tell him to recheck your R.A factor and to test for lime disease and any other illness that could make a person feel this way and when your blood test come back ask for a copy of your blood test and the results and be sure to ask questions about the results and if you dont like that doctor and you dont think he wants to help then dont waste your time going back to him just find another family doctor. I know it might take sometime but you will find one who will care but before you see another doctor get your blood test results from that doctor for your own records they are good to have because doctors make mistakes too and I know that first hand and trust me the ones who did what they did to my son will always think twice before sending a sick kid home because I think that mistake almost took his life and took alot of money away from them. I know and understand how you feel but with your aunt by your side it sounds like you have alot of support and that I dont have just know things will get better because if you do have this disease it will be your worse enemy for the rest of your life. If you are on medicaid you should be able to find out what plan you have with them and get a web adress of all the doctors who take your kind of insurance and you should have at lease one rheumatologist I have to drive a hour to get to mine but even if you have to travel then do it cause it will be well worth it in the long run but yes you are going to have to go to a family doctor first and even if he says he cant find what the problem is then still ask for a refferal to see a rhematologist you have the right to ask for that and you might not know that but you do. YOU SOMETIMES HAVE TO TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT!! Make a list of everything that hurts on you and every symptom you have and go over with your doctor I found for me that works well because sometimes with us having kids we may forget certain things that are really important because these type of disease's can be hard to diagnose and do your home work because that helps too. Like I said I will help you were I can so just let me know.

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8/21/09 6:42pm

Wow!  You have been throught alot!  I can't believe you almost lost your son.  How horrible and scary, something no parent would ever want to go through or experience.  I'm so glad things turned out ok, (or at least from what I read?)  How is he doing now?

Thanks for the advice on Doctors.  I'm glad to know you have experienced the same thing.  And I had no idea you could even get a copy of your blood work?  After you mentioned that, I called my brother (who is a Dr. in TX)  and he said to send him a copy of my blood work as well so he can go over it with me, and tell me exactly what he see's with it.  So thanks for the suggestion, hopefully I will know more about what my family Dr even tested me for, and if there is anything on there at all that will give me some direction. (that would be nice)

One last question for you. Do you ever have time where you feel some what normal?  It seems I have a few days that I feel "Ok" (my joints ALWAYS hurt) but I'm just not feeling sick 24/7.  This seems to happen every 2-3 days.  I have a couple days I can move and function ok, and then a couple that I feel horrible.  I just basically lay around all day trying to sleep it off, trying to find the right kind of over the counter medication, (that by the way never works, not at all!) just trying to some how get through the day.  On the days I feel somewhat ok, I almost talk myself out of thinking anything really is wrong.  The good days never last more then 3 days it seems, but during that short time I second guess myself ALL the time.  Then the second I am flat down in bed again, all I can do is just cry out of pure discouragement, wondering why I would ever think even for 2 seconds that it was all in my head.  Does this ever happen with you?  Is this normal?  

Thanks for talking...

 

And sorry if it takes me a few days or so to get back with you, we are right in the middle of moving out of our home and life is SO crazy.  We offically  are out on Wed, so hopefully life will be some what normal again by then!

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By Julia— Last Modified: 12/24/10, First Published: 08/13/09