Friday, November 13, 2009 Wren asks

Q: What happens in the joints when RA goes into remission?

I was diagnosed with RA in 1987. Around 1997, all the symptoms ceased and I was no longer plagued with the disease. I felt perfectly normal -- and it was a real blessing. My RA had gone into remission.

 

However, in 2005 two large lumps appeared on my right wrist. They were mostly painless. My PCP didn't know what had caused them, so she sent me to an orthopedic surgeon. He told me that the lumps were arthritic pannus, a substance secreted from joints under attack by RA. They wouldn't go away on their own, he told me, but could be removed surgically. When I expressed surprise that RA was the culprit here -- it had been in "remission" for many years, and I thought that meant "inactive" -- he said that RA never actually went away, that it could still do damage even though it didn't present with symptoms.

 

He felt that would be a good idea because the pannus would probably continue to get larger and would, eventually, cause impairment in my wrist and hand. Not long after that I had the surgery. The pannus was removed, and I recovered without incident.

 

In 2008 I began experiencing RA symptoms again, mainly in my hands (in the past it had attacked joints all over my body). The remission is over. I'm aware that I was very lucky to be in remission for so long, but now I'm confused. I keep reading about other people with the disease who go into "remission" for a period of a few weeks or months. And I'm wondering -- does the disease really continue to do damage in the body while its in remission? I'm confused, now.

 

Thanks to anyone who might have an answer or who can point me in the right direction to get one!

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Brad, Health Guide
11/14/09 2:54am

Wren,

Hello. Well I have never been in remission, I envy you that! I have read much about it and as I understand it Remission means you are totally without RA symptoms, that would of course not solve any damage you have already incurred. That damage of course can still cause pain. There are some really good links on this site that may give you more info. We are not doctors and cannot dx issues for you. But I am glad to give you any help finding info that I can. I hope you feel better.

 

Click on Remission for more info.

 

Brad

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11/14/09 12:55pm

Brad,

 

Thank you for the link to Lene's article on remission. She really hits the mark, doesn't she. When I was first diagnosed with this disease, and was dealing with the incredible, disabling pain it causes, I had no hope at all for remission. So when it happened, around 10 years later, I was very grateful. And all through the years that followed, the years where I was able to live my life without RA pain, I remained grateful -- and aware that the disease wasn't actually gone, but could reappear at any time. When it did, the manner in which it manifested surprised me. And of course now, it's back and slowly ramping up in intensity, just like the first time.

 

My understanding of remission is like yours -- that it means you're totally without symptoms for a period of time, long or short. But that orthopedic surgeon suggested that even without symptoms, the disease was still doing its damage, but silently. Sneakily.

 

So far I haven't been able to find anything about remission that talks about this, but I'll keep looking. Thanks again for your reply, and here's wishing you the best, too. I hope that you'll also be feeling better very soon.

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1/15/10 4:29pm

I  was diagnosed with RA in 1976.  I was 37.  For years I treated it with aspirin-up to 16/day til stomach stress occurred.  In May 1984 I had a terrible attack & visited my doctor.  He injected me with "gold".  Up to 95mg/6weeks.  Along with aspirin it controlled the desease but with occassional flare ups.  I stopped  using aspirin (suspected possible stomach ulcers) & doc put me on 500mg naproxenx2/day.  I've been through the lumps & all the associated pain with this desease.  Right hip replacement on Pearl Harbor day last December (2009).  Left one probably next winter or 2012.  Just had appointment with doc yesterday -no more gold.  Medicare pays $15.44/injection-. I think Lab going to discontinue production-probably can't make profit @ that price.  Doc trying replacement medication starting yesterday.   I am a male.  I include this because most sufferers of this desease are female.  My older sister has it.  My late father also had it.    

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1/16/10 12:12am

Hi Bubba,

 

You've really been through the wringer with RA. I'm so sorry. I've had it in just about all my joints, but at the moment, it's mostly in my hands and wrists. I've had it attack my hip, but thankfully only a few times. Yet my rheumatologist tells me that RA doesn't usually affect hips. Humph! Got news for him, don't we.

 

What med is your doc using to replace the gold injections? Are you still taking naproxen, too? Has he mentioned trying any of the biologics, like Humira, Enbrel or Cimzia (a newish one)?

 

Seems like most RA sufferers ARE female, but there are a lot of you guys out there who also battle it every day. Have you checked out RA Guy's blog? It's www.rheumatoidarthritisguy.com. His take on the disease is pragmatic, realistic and upbeat, and he has links to many other RA blogs, including mine, which is called RheumaBlog. www.rheumablog.wordpress.com  As I've looked for answers about this disease, I've found a lot of them -- and lots of support -- by reading these blogs and commenting.

 

Wishing you good luck with the new meds and a good long run of pain-free days and nights!

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8/13/10 6:35am

Hi everyone on here,i was diag in 2005,changed doctors in 2007,they did more blood tests said they were neg,anyone else had this happen to them,i,m confused.

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6/ 3/11 11:03am

Hello,

My name is Tracee. i was diagnosed with JRA  at the tender age of 8. im currently 37. thankfully my RA has been in remission over 20 yrs with the exception of flare ups after my body has been throuh a tramtic experience such as child birth. the weird thing is, after giving birth, which i did 5 times, the RA would flare up three months to the date later, and lasts for maybe two weeks. i have been truly blessed with my remission, but recently im finding that the silence of RA is doing other damage to my body. i just had a biopsy yesterday on enlarged lymphnodes that my be a result of RA but needed to be tested to make sure it wasnt cancer. RA is a very tricky disease to carry. so my advice to you all would be to keep a close eye on everything. if you can afford the doctor visits, make an appt to go and check out everything that may seem abnormal to you because RA will still continue to do damage even in renission.

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6/ 3/11 11:24am

hi wren  thats what i thought to over the years the pain really hasnt been that bad but 3 months ago i found out that ra has been working the whole time  an been working hard  i wish that doctors would  do xrays on people even if they do go in remission an really im thinking remission really ever happens yea you dont have the pain or just not as bad an your not stiff  or not as stiff  the doctors has to keep doing blood an xrays to watch this monster

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By Wren— Last Modified: 06/03/11, First Published: 11/13/09