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Is there anyone who can help me to tackle this situation????????

By KJV Sunday, November 11, 2007

My brother had a psychotic attack 4 years back and we were not aware. We visited psychiatric doctors & diagnosed Schizopherania and they prescribed medications also. But my brother is reluctant to take medicines from day one. He is against medicine since childhood and now he is 35 & unmarried.

I want to know how I can convince my brother for acceptance of this illness and to start taking medicines.

Our future lies in well being of my brother as my mom's health is also getting deteriorating as she is too worried about him.

I need to know can anyone help with words so that we can take our brother out of this hell.

I also wish recovery of every psychotic patient.

Robin Cunningham, Health Guide
11/17/07 8:04pm

 

KJV:

 

When I first got sick (13 years of age) my parents made me take my meds.  Unfortunately, you can't do that with someone who is 35.  If you push him too hard he will just put up a wall between the two of you and shut you out.

 

I recommend that you read a book entitled "I'm not sick!  I don't need help!" by Xaviar Amador.  You should be able to find it at most book stores or on the internet.  If you can't get it e-mail me at robin.cunningham1@gmail.com and give me your snail mail address and I'll send you a copy.

 

Let me know if the book helps.

 

Robin

 

11/18/07 11:44am

Hi Robin

Thanks for your advice and let me try if I can get this book from India otherwise I shall definitely get back to you. Our family is desparate to see my brother well very soon.

 Thanks again....KJV

10/ 5/08 7:36pm

Have you found the book in India? I am from India and I need to help my brother.

 

11/19/07 8:50pm
my son was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia after seeing many drs. just none of them saw him long enough to diagnose him after scary events i had to have someone come in and take him to a hospital in nh  they kept him  and have made a diagnosis after a month  he is 24 right now .i am reading everything i can to learn about the illness which has devasted me  its such a hard illness to live with i feel for the person who can't seem to get thier brother to take meds  patients and understanding is key keep telling him how much you love him and he can live a better life if he trusts one person let that be you ,,keep reminding him no matter how he behaves  ,my son was upset with me for about a day which hurt me i felt i was betraying him..i think he is relieved now even though he won't admit he is sick yet.i think sometimes he knows i call him twicw a day and visit 3 times a week which is alot he is an hour away and i work 50 hrs a week still better than the fear i lived with 24/7 he is safe and so are we.he is on seraquil i pray it works..thanks for letting me vent  any advice would be welcomed
Christina Bruni, Health Guide
11/29/07 1:43pm

Hello chriss,

 

I would say attend the NAMI family support groups.  Call (800) 950 - NAMI (6264) to find one in your area, and log on to www.nami.org as well.

 

It seems like you got him help early enough.  There is hope.  Never give up!

 

And do things you enjoy to disengage from focusing on mental illness 24/7.

 

Regards,

Chris

12/ 2/07 3:42pm

Thank you Christina,

 I hope your right,about getting it early enough    I will definetly call NAMI

Chriss

 

Anonymous
Gloria Gold
12/ 1/07 8:16pm

Dear KJV,

 

Is your relationship good with your brother?  Does he feel you love him? 

If so, have you got with him in front of the computer to these SharePosts on SchizophreniaConnection? 

My friend, Pamela Judge, had an excellent interview posted recently on how important it is to find a psychiatrist you trust, and take the meds, report unpleasant side effects, etc...  But the key thing I remember is, she said she had to realize she needed to take the meds like her very life depended on it...

12/ 9/07 11:23pm

KJV,

I'm from the US, and I've been dealing with my sz son for five years now since his first acute attack.  He's now 27 years old.  He's never been one to stay on his meds, and he likes to wander.  I've put him in a boarding house, and they attend the day center during the week.  So far he's taking his meds for three months now.  To me that's a success because of his pass record.  I think the success is him being around other sz persons who have to take their meds. He's seeing no matter what age he's not alone.  He sees that as his mother I care very much for him because some of these guys and girls have no family that visit them.  I guess each step in this disease is a learning process.  Some learn faster than others.  I hope you find your answers to help your brother.  Thanks~

12/12/07 11:54am

Dear Ms Jaret

Thanks a lot for your comments.

 

I lost my dad long ago and now me, my brother & my mom are living together. we both are not yet married and this is our small family and me, my mom & my married sisters are trying to help my brother.

 

Now we are giving SIZODONE in food (as prescribed by doctor) since 2 months & sometimes we see some positive results but sometimes we feel that our efforts are going futile.

 

We are consulting a psycho-doctor also and he always say to visit him with my brother to help him treat better but this seems impossible as my brother will never go to doctors.

 

We are now in jeopardy and do not understand what to do as 100ds question arise in our mind like... whether this is right medicine..... whether to continue or to stop meds...... what side effects of this medicine is disturbing my brother....... for how long this meds is to continue.......

 

And we are looking for someone who can help us out........

12/12/07 5:17pm

KJV,

 

Believe me I personally know how hard it is to help someone who is mentally ill.  I understand your concern and love for your loved one.

 

I don't know much about 'sizodone', but I do know about 'risdone' as my son took the meds.  For him the med didn't work for him personally.  However each sz person is different.

 

I know you're having the problem of getting your brother to the pdoc, but that's so important to get the correct diagnosis with the meds. 

 

I know dealing with my own son these last five years, allot of meds has been trial and error for him.  He's taking Abilify right now, and he's doing very well.

 

When my son is psychotic, he's uncontrollable.  The 'only' way I can get him to the hospital or pdoc is to 'involuntary commit' him in our state of Texas.  I understand each state has different laws for committment.  I can go to our local court house to get a 'mental health warrant' to have the police pick him up to take him to the hospital for a medical evulation.  My husband and I have done this many times in the last five years, but I've never regretted our actions.  My son wouldn't be alive if I hadn't taken these steps.

 

Like I mention before it's taken five years of helping my son to just get him to taking his meds (going on four months now), and staying in a group home.  It hasn't been easy, and I thought many times I would have to give up on him.  However I'm glad I didn't because I now have my son back as I call it the 'new normal.'  Tomorrow he might be gone from me because that's how this disease works for us.

 

From my own experience the 'only' way to move forward is seeing a good pdoc, taking their meds, and keeping them away from alcohol and drugs.  That has been the key of success for me.

 

I hope you find the answers that will work for you.  ~Jeani

3/25/11 10:15am

hello evry one what i want to tell is,the key to cure all diseases is to worship true God...he vl show us the true path which way to go n he will put things at ease for us...i am sufferring from schizophrenia frm past 9 years, at first i use to leave meds but now by praying n through offerring salaah  my life has become peaceful n i no more leave medicines anymore.i am on soltus 200 mg  ie amisulpride. but at the time of attack i use to eat 400 mg  tablets for 1 month then after th voices were over i came on 200 mg soltus now..now i dont skip my tablets though it has some side effects like weight gain but not much.i became fat but still i am looking good.n if u want to get cured read surah anam from quran even if u read translation it can work,but the criteria is u must embrace islam....by worshipping the true God atleast u  vl be at peace n ur life vl be much better than this ....u vl find no mistake in quran where as other religious books contains mistakes...... read Quran n u vl know it

Anonymous
jetaun lewis
2/ 8/08 3:46pm
My brother has been diagnosed as being psychotic, he is very reluctant to take his meds and will not admit he has a problem we have comitted him to the psych ward 3 times and each time he is released.  They say all they can do is stabilize him.  He terriorizes me and my mother and he also likes to roam he put 4,000 miles on a brand new rental car in 3 weeks.  When he has his episodes we are unaware for weeks until the rage sets in.  I give praise to everyone who is dealing with this because it is very hard to deal with mentally and emotionally. I have been dealing with this for 2 years hoping things wll get better!
Anonymous
I know
4/17/08 7:20pm

It will never get better.  You will always wish that he was normal.  You will cry, hate, and feel pity.  Most hospitals will not keep him because it is not illegal to be delusional.  He will spend his life in and out of the hospital.  You have to do the best with what you have.  And it is hard to face the truth but I have.  My brother is 30 and was diagnosed at 13.  There is nothing that you can do except encourage him to take meds but it is my experience that if he does take meds he will only take them for a short period of time or he will end up abusing the meds.  It really sucks...mental illness.

Anonymous
rhiannon kane
3/ 2/08 11:58pm

Ive been living with my boyfrind and his aunty & cousin for a few months, and a few days ago her 25 year old paranoid-schizophrenic son moved in with us, along with hit pitt-bull terrior.

he is delusional, aggressive, argumentive, preaching,VERY SCARY and he wont stop going on about his delusional beliefs and how he knows so much more about every aspect of life than everyone else.

if you listen and agree, he wont stop talking, he will follow you around the house until you shut yourself in a room. if you talk back he will get argumentive, raise his voice, and become very aggressive.

if you ignore him, he starts going on about how he is is better than you and your just ignorant, and theres no point in talking to you any way because you wont understand. 

He paces around the house all night, making the floor-boards creak, and when you come out of your room, he's there waiting for you and starts preaching. hes always staring and hes just plain creepy.

 

i like where i live, i really really dont want to move out, but i fear thats my only choice. None of us want him living with us, including his mum, but she is afraid to get help because he will just get out of the hospital and come back to haunt her. he already blames her for everything in life and whenever he is alone with her he starts verbally attacking her.

 

his dog is also very very unstable, as it has been influenced by him.i cant go in the backyrad for fear it will lash out.

 .

none of us know what to do. and as i am not related to him i have no pitty at all. this makes me feel really guilty. but he is an extremely creepy person.

Theres not a chance we can get him on medication, he would go insane if we even mentioned it. how do we get him to move out??

Anonymous
Seen too much
4/17/08 7:14pm

I have a brother like that.  He is very scary and has suffered many delusions.  There is nothing that you can do except move out to get some peace.  It will take alot to get a mother to kick out a child no matter how "bad" they are.  It is a personal decision if you want to move out and have peace.  I told my mother several times over the years to kick my brother out.  She would not until "God told him to try to rape her" it was only then she decided to put him out.  Good luck in what you decide.

Anonymous
Why my beautiful sister?
4/17/08 7:05pm

My sister has never drank or done drugs.  She is the sweetest person anyone could know.  Three years ago she had her first bout of acute schizophrenia.  I took her to the emergency room and had her tested for drugs even though I knew that was not what it was.  She was well until now.  She does not know that she has this condition.

And it is futile to tell her because she won't believe it and will get very aggressive verbally if you were to tell her.  She won't take any meds including aspirin for headaches.  She has been awake for 6 days and is now telling everyone that there are people talking to her in her head.  She has been in her room for 6 days with the music blasted while she conversates with Eminem and other "people" alone in her room. 

 

Does anyone know how to make a person realize that he/she has acute schizophrenia without making them so mad that they shut you and the world out more?  Is there something that can be done to calm my sister?  What is happening?

4/18/08 1:27pm

Dear, I too am in similar situation with similar questions and never get any answer. I have only one brother and we all sisters never knew that this will ever happen to my bright & outstandingly intelligent brother. We are unable to help you as we too need a similar help. We are very sorry!

Anonymous
was sick now better
6/ 5/08 1:14pm

If somebody became schizopheraniac for a month and took medicines for 3 mnths and became better, how can he confirm that he is well now and no more sick. is it possible for someone to be ok without medicines and for how long. does will power works in that case or he has to take medicines all his life.

8/10/08 3:32am

Hello Was sick now better!

Hope you are still doing well.

Hope you find and this reply, I know it is a bit late...It would be good for you to post that same question in the Ask section where it would be seen more easily and you would get answers from people who have 'been there' and maybe get some responses that make sense to you.

From my understanding, to maintain a helpful influence these medications ( although they may need changing and tweaking over time), need to be considered long term therapy,in the same way someone with diabetes,underactive thyroid, or high blood pressure usually accepts it for the best of their health and functioning.

Sometimes 'time' can be the test, if a journal is kept and early 'warning signs' and patterns recognised,if a med is stopped.They are often develop over weeks before the 'blow'. A therapist can hep see these ,especially in hindsight.

Best of luck

Chris,

mother of undiagnosed son with sz

8/10/08 10:58am

Can anyone help us??????? He is not taking medition and now worse than anything he is not even taking food ... he has become too weak and he has a perception that he is having constipation thats the reason he is not taking food .... We do not understand what should we do and invite comments if anyone has any suggestion for us.

10/ 3/08 2:00am

We are in the same situation as yours, or even worse. Our mother who was looking after him passed away recently in India. He refuses to take medicine and there is no one to look after him. He has this problem over 10 years now. We need help.

Anonymous
bijeet
11/ 3/08 3:22pm

why dont you guys get in touch with a psychologist or a psychotherapist they can give you sudjessions to handel the situation. It is more necessary to be in good mental state to keep someone like this on track.....

 

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