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Intentions with a common aim, but words sometimes (mis)fire like arrows and hurt in error....??

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Chris

Chris

Tue, July 07, 2009

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Hello everyone,

 

(My own  personal take on recent upsets :A sorry case of choice of words working as imperfect tools of explanation, if I am not mistakenSmile)

 

First let me say once more,( and I know this is echoed by others ),I so appreciate this site. It is a good 'place' to come, because of the integrity and dignity of its regular contributors, even while sharing often very personal, and maybe serious painful issues while somehow managing to be generous, thought provoking and information sharing....a difficult tightrope to walk indeed...Thereby hope lives on.

 

It is also very welcoming of new posters bringing new life and imput...I always like to read new shareposts and contributions.

 

Sometimes words on 'cyberpaper' jarr badly and sound like awkward mistranslations, and are open to interpretation that was quite the opposite of that  intended by the writer.(There is no immediate feedback as there would be in direct conversation, so that the author can clarify, self correct and also reassure so no offence is given)

 

Now to the particular...from recent interested and interesting shareposter D' i that caused the upset unintentionally I'm quite sure...

 

Like Dave those words 'sz symptoms are fearful and somewhat entertaining'  jolted me badly as I read......I felt I was not understanding what was meant and reread, still puzzled and 'shocked'...but this poster sounded compassionate from his earlier posts so I tried again...

This is my 'translation' (which of course might be wrong) of his words. Hope I get a response to see if I am near the mark. I think  his introductory words were focussing on early psychotic experiences, not at all talking about overall experience of fully developed schizophrenia. I sense he has very close experience of these..

Here is my take

"Sz symptoms (in particular hallucinations especially implied I think) can be very frightening yet sometimes even entertaining to the perceiver ..."

 

Certainly from my reading I believe at the onset or prodrome of some psychotic development in certain young people,  their voices may initially seem very friendly or amusing, although sadly often changing character like dreams and nightmares. Then there is the later conflict beween them and reality, which is where the individual's distress comes in and effects on actions and behaviours..

Sorry this is long and rambling,

Hope everyone has a good day, best wishes

Chris

UK

7/ 7/09 6:34am

HI Chris. Thanks for sharing with us.

 

I am thankful for this site. I am trying to let go of this situation I have caused. I guess I was sensitive and wounded.

 

I know I totally misunderstood and jumped to irrational conclusions.

 

It is my intention to help and not judge. I failed at both.

 

I will learn from this, to think it through before I react.

 

Thanks again,

 

Dave

 

7/ 7/09 8:56am

Maybe I should keep out of this since I was not involved in the upset.  I have never thought sz symptoms were entertaining, but I have likened them to a 3-ring circus or a carnival of sight and sound that is constantly evolving into something terrifying.  They are "entertaining" only in the fact that they hold me spellbound -- all my attention is drawn away from what is really going on around me.  They lead me away from reality with a fiendish Pied Piper.  I get caught up in them and lose my way home.  At one time, I thought that kind of life was what I wanted -- I had forgotten what a "normal" life was like.  I had forgotten joy, peace, love, tranquility, creativity, spontaneity.  But now I am back safely on the other side and see what a tragedy it would have been for me to have remained totally enthralled by that inner world that had a life of it's own.

 

Carolyn

7/ 7/09 10:59am

Hello Chris,

 

Your points are well taken.

 

Internet text is rather flat and there's no voice inflection or hand gesturing on anything else with which to interpret what the speaker is saying, so it can be taken the wrong way.

 

Regards,

Christina

7/ 8/09 3:21am

I may not have explained myself very well. What is initially "entertaining" turns out to be rather cruel. That is the reason my friend eventually tried to get rid of them because of the change. It may have been a much "milder" form of sz but as a whole, it was still extremely terrifying. He thought he was either in hell or going to hell. However there is a lot of apparent or obvious contradictions. At times he thought that he was God but that couldn't be true so he thought that he was if not the greatest person in the world, one of the greatest. There were these highs and lows that he also hated. There were also things that he would not talk about.

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