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Finding My Way in Life

By Don Fraser Friday, November 25, 2011

Hello S.C. Connection, I'm stumbling and bumbling my way through this maze of the world as well as possible these days, in spite of obstacles and problems that we all face as adults with a mental illness.

 

Music has been a great source of relief for me and if there ever was such a thing as music therapy while in recovery, then I'm doing it.       I enjoy the ambient strains of Tangerine Dream and Steve Roach, among many others and spend hours listening to the quiet, peaceful sounds of my computer sound system.

 

I recently finished four talks on schizophrenia with the BCSS and the Partners in Education program, two at high schools, one at a college, and one at the University here in Nanaimo, British Columbia.             By the end of it, I was pretty stressed out, even though it went well and they said they'd have me back next year.

 

I take a lot of medication.       High doses of Zyprexa, seraquel, topomax, tegratol, and chlonazapam make up the cocktail that I ingest four times daily.    It leaves me pretty zonked out, but my psy-doc has said that the sedation is a trade-off for having symptoms.

 

I have an issue that I would like your opinion on.        It is said, medically speaking, that in a certain percentage of males in their late forties or so, schizophrenia simply leaves their bodies for good.       My question is, obviously; "Am I one of those people?".   I'm 54.       And if I am, how do I go about finding out?.       I've been on the same dose of meds for six years.     Obviously, I could ask my doctor, but I know that the answer would be to stay on the meds.        So how do I know if I still have the illness?       Thanks for your input.

 

 

Don F.

Life Is Good To Me
11/25/11 9:00pm

I feel like I should give my answer incognito because I don't want to actually be responsible for it.  Like I feel guilty.  But I am also honest.  I have been on heavy-duty MI meds since 1995.  Periodically, when I'm feeling really great, I go of the meds to see what happens.  I have gone as long as 3 months feeling great off the meds, although I admit I usually relapse in just a few days.  Today I am in my 7th day off all MI meds -- Latuda, Trazodone, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Klonopin and so far, so good.  I am not having any more symptoms than I did while on all the meds.  We all have problems, MI just happens to be one of mine.  I deal with it every day.  I constantly monitor my thoughts -- whether they are too fast, too unusual, too violent, too self-defeating.  I am on the lookout for hallucinations, for that special whine of mental music that heralds relapse, for too much or too little time sleeping.  I'm hypervigilant about symptoms, and perhaps that in itself is a symptom, who knows.

 

But I hate taking meds, even while admitting they have allowed me to live in normal society and not in a state hospital.  And I keep trying to convince myself and my body that I can do without them.  I, too, have heard that SZ often abates as you near 60.  I think that may be true for me.  I certainly don't have the severe symptoms I used to, and I do respond to medication now, when there was a time I didn't.  I just would feel triumpant if I "overcame" SZ and didn't need medication anymore.  It may happen, it may not.  But I feel I have to test the boundaries once in a while.

11/26/11 7:19am

Don,

 

In the wards that I frequent at the hospital they have a music therapist and music group. I have often found refuge in music. I have loved music my whole life. I remember listening to country music on the radio Sunday mornings since I could remember. In my teens music was more of a rebellion and an escape from the yelling. I would put head phones so loud so that I heard nothing but music. It wasn't all rock n'roll either. Now into adulthood I find music once again calming my nerves and making feel better in times of great stress. I don't listen to loud, music of my teens and early 20's but soothing, uplifting music. I often cry during the singing oh hymns at church. The words mean so much and the melodies and the voices bring me great joy.

 

I don't know if SZ ever goes away. I do know that my voices aren't as problematic as they have been. I rarely her voices compared to hearing them all day long. I haven't tried to go off meds to find out if I'm still affected with sz. I did that only once in my sz career and it was a trajedy. I vowed to never put myself through that again. Going off meds is never an option for me. I take 4 meds, which seem to work well.

 

I think its great that you are a speaker. I am glad that you have a voice for us.

 

I wish you the very best.

 

David

11/28/11 10:33am

Thank-you David, for your kind words.    I can recall that music therapy was a lot of fun.   After reading the comments here I'm not as sure that I will go ahead with the drug holiday.   Ah well, maybe it's just a vain wish.

 

God Bless

 

Don F.

11/26/11 7:44am

Yes, I was so grateful when my brother gave me his old iPod so I can listen to music in bed at night.  I always do that for about an hour before falling asleep.  I like loud rock, classical; there are few types I don't like (bluegrass is one.)  I like a lot of the new alternative rock.  Mainly what all of it does is just transport me away from this life for a while so I don't have to think or worry or make decisions.

 

I'm proud of you, Don, for public speaking on a topic so important to us all.  I was asked once to start leading a men's and women's shelter mental illness education forum as a part of my living arrangement there.  But I never followed through when I continued to live with my parents instead of in a shelter.  I feel sure I could have done it and probably should have done it just as a public service.

11/28/11 10:49am

Thanks for your encouragement, Donna.    The talks were not easy for me to do as I had to drag up a lot of old ghosts and so on.        

One of the high schools was in a lower income area and what was interesting is that the students there were much more attentive and asked twice as many questions as the other schools/colleges.          Does this indicate that lower income families are touched by mental illness more than others?    It would seem so.

I sympathize and understand your experiments with staying - going off meds.    I used to do this in my 20's and 30's.        And, just like you, it would take about three months before I relapsed.     I decided when I was about 40 to just take the darn stuff.    Keep me posted on how you're doing and I'll let you know if I'm going to experiment or not.

 

God Bless

 

Don F.

Christina Bruni, Health Guide
11/27/11 11:25am

Hi Don,

 

I've read that 10 to 40 percent of the people diagnosed with SZ might not need medication however that leaves the good majority of us who do.  I've also heard the statistic that only about 8 percent of the people with SZ will no longer need medication yet only when they reach their sixties.

 

The choice is yours.  It's a choice I made in 1992 and the drug holiday didn't work.  I'm 47 now and have had miraculous success with the atypical I'm on now.

 

I wouldn't say my choice to take meds is the only choice however because I'm doing so well I consider it to be the best choice.

 

Regards,

Christina

11/28/11 11:18am

Hi Christina, your words of wisdom sound pretty good, especially for someone like you who has responded so well to medication.           But keep in mind, you are in a slim minority.   Not many people I have met respond very well to any type of meds.   Almost all of them have issues.       

I would say that 60% of them still have symptoms, though admittedly not as severe as before and 70% have side-effect problems such as obesity, diabeties, and risk of heart disease. For example, I was going to change meds from serequel to Abilify but in testing the doctor discovered that my heart wasn't suited to it.

 

There was a study done on this site that compared the Atypical medications to the older drugs and in the study they found that there was no difference between them in controlling the symptoms of schizophrenia.        The only real difference was that the side effects were different.       So you can get incredibly fat but you don't shake like a leaf.    

 

Anyway, after considering the responses I got from my post. I've decided to put on hold my plans for going off meds.       It's simply too risky and I'm not a gambler, especially with my own life.       Life is good.    I'm doing well. I'm happy and thankful to all the people who helped me get this far and I'm not going to let that go.

 

God Bless

 

Don F.

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By Don Fraser— Last Modified: 11/28/11, First Published: 11/25/11