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Friday, July 10, 2009 becky12377777, Community Member, asks

Q: Paranoid scizophrenia is a spiritual battle to me not a disease.Could they be confused?

Like getting twisted in the Bible and messing up things thinking you was the black horseman and people actually telling you ,you don't need Jesus you need me.And I know that part was real.

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absent minded, Community Member
7/10/09 10:22pm

There is nothing wrong with being a spiritual person, reading your Bible, belief in Jesus, etc.  But a lot of times a person who has been diagnosed with schizophrenia will have a heightened sense of holiness, of being God's emissary, of special spiritual powers, or of finding personal messages written just for them in the Scriptures.  But sz is an actual disease of the brain, as diabetes is a disease and cancer is a disease.  Yes, it takes faith and hope to fight these diseases, and you may find comfort in fighting these on a spiritual plain as well as a physical plain.  But medication is called for as well and I urge you to consider medicine in conjunction with the armor of God as is described in Ephesians.

 

Carolyn

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becky12377777, Community Member
7/10/09 10:37pm

I was once in my breakroom at work and everything quite moving and everybody except what one man was telling me about adultary (sex before marriage),I asked the lady setting next to me if she heard anything he said,and she was waiting on a response after I questioned him and she said he said nothing but he did it was that spiritual thing again and I asked him to tell me what he said the day before and he said what I thought he said.And sometimes it is like a warning about certain things so maybe it can't be all bad.

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becky12377777, Community Member
7/10/09 10:50pm

Or could this be oppression.Cause it is like others know I know things and some have even been scared of me cause of the spirit I have seen in them.Do you think I could actually have a gift cause this has helped me at times.Especially when I first got saved cause before I was into horoscopes like this relationship book,I didn't mean to fall into it but I did.That is when this all started and that guy I said that said You don't need Jesus you need me he was my love sign and he told me somethings he could have not known and he said he only lets me know what I need to know like he was the devil period.Then I seen him again after I got saved and living right and he was scared of me period.Then I backslide and he knew it and said to me like he knew it ,ya its fun though isn't it,my boss was right there and was telling me to rebuke him.This is real to me and freaky.Now I am out there at times but in a sense like I said it is spiritual and maybe deceived myself don't know.

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Daleri, Community Member
7/10/09 10:44pm

Hi Carolyn, I noticed that you have made several mentions of your faith in Christ. I am what they call a "Messianic" believer (in Christ) which is basically the same thing although I am not Jewish. Shalom!

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becky12377777, Community Member
7/10/09 10:55pm

I am Becky the one asking for help not Caroln but she did help what is your insight.What exactly is Messianic believer?I am not Jewish either ,but believe Jesus came to this earth in a human body,lived here without sin and died and was resurrected three days later and Christian.

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Daleri, Community Member
7/10/09 11:11pm

Messianic is the same thing as Christian because Messiah is the same thing as Christ only it is a Hebrew word instead of Greek. Messianic is where there are often many Jewish believers in Christ (Messiah) and the worship service has more of a Jewish flavor and a lot of the very significant feasts of Israel such as Passover are thoroughly explained. Passover Coincides with what some people call "Easter" and the Feast of First Fruits coincides with the resurrection. The Feast of Weeks coincides with Pentecost. It is really very informative and very significant.

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becky12377777, Community Member
7/10/09 11:23pm

I have been fighting the idea I have scizophrenia for awhile now but I am very open with this experience.But my grandma had it but that doesn't really mean mine could be that too.It all started when I got into a horoscope book it is all crazy but like I said others understand what I am saying but some do not.These spirits are real to me.It is as if they know I know what spirit is inside them cause those ones I fight against are scared of me cause I see that antichrist spirit in them sounds crazy huh.They have literally got away from me quick and others have seen this as well so it has to some extent be real?

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Daleri, Community Member
7/10/09 11:38pm

It can get rather extreme. I might be a good idea to seek counseling with your pastor or someone who has counseling experience.

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becky12377777, Community Member
7/10/09 11:51pm

I have before and they start deceiving me too.But I did leave the door wide open for the devil but then again I did alot of drugs at onetime and when I quite bam there everything broke loose but I think I just mad the devil mad cause I was very much  aleader of the worst people.Cause doctors say it is a disease but I say it is a spiritual battle.All I know is TAKE THE MEDS SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT AT LEAST IT IS NEVER BORING LOL.Plus we are very intellient creatures scizophrenics if we can channel that in a good way.The more I read the bible the more I find preachers deceiving me.At my church where I was going we can't keep a pastor so I quite going so I am a little confused but then again he said some crap about scaring people into heaven okey Jesus isn't about fear the devil is.Maybe somekind of test I don't know.But at onetime I was very much sick and swayed back and forth and couldn't get it together so I am alittle messed up on all this.I hate all this cause I am a very outgoing funloving person then it is like I go into hiding cause I don't even trust my twin sister at times.

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Daleri, Community Member
7/11/09 2:22am

I am sorry to hear about the difficulties in church. Church always seems to be a battle of some kind or another too. People often do not think enough about what they are saying. Time is a good healer. If we get our thoughts together and get ourselves properly oriented, sometimes the rest of the issues will fall into place. I hope everything works out for you and your family.

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Daleri, Community Member
7/10/09 11:47pm

I messed that up. Passover coincides with "Good Friday" and the Feast of First fruits coincides with "Easter".

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becky12377777, Community Member
7/10/09 11:55pm

As long as you keep the faith I guess we all got battles some worst than others. I believe it has to do with the end preparing for something.Good night.

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Daleri, Community Member
7/11/09 2:13am

Yes, keep in mind that my friend thought the end was coming thirty years ago. The idea is to suffer the least amount of purposeless suffering as possible. We suffer all the time for the sake of gaining something useful but needless and useless suffering is what we should try to avoid.

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Daleri, Community Member
7/10/09 9:57pm
Schizophrenia is very much a spiritual battle. It is a battle of thoughts. It is a battle of beliefs. We do what we do because of what we believe. So we need to make sure that what we believe is true. If it is not true and it has been proven not to be true, we need to ignore it. We need to not believe in it. It is a battle that only you can win with or by truth. The truth is that our ticket has been paid for. There is a provision that has already been made for us so that it is not anything that we have to do ourselves. We just have to believe it. Reply
becky12377777, Community Member
7/10/09 10:40pm

What bothers me is that it is like others know things.I have seen the spirit of the antichrist and someone else I knew seen it too in his brother and I jokingly told  his brother what he saw and he said I showed him my face.Could I be fighting demons?Oppression

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Daleri, Community Member
7/10/09 10:55pm

The spirit of anti-Christ is when someone does not believe that Jesus (God) came in the flesh. (That is basically everyone that does not believe in Christ.) You are fighting beliefs and you have to make sure that what you are believing is true.

 

I had a friend that used to "cast demons out" of things like pictures and even the headlights of cars until he basically got tired of it. Laughing It can get quite ridiculous.

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Daleri, Community Member
7/10/09 11:17pm

It is oppression but as Christians, lying spirits need not have power over us. All we have to do is not to believe in them and they will vanish.

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