What I was experiancing in 2008 were thoughts and voices, that were not my own.Plus I would feel the presence of something above my head.On top of that something poking my body that I felt as if someone tapped me.
Hey, Adam. What I'm reading between the lines here is that you are a spiritual person - a spirit with neurons. There is a lot of overlap between spirituality, intuition, creativity, and mental illness. Depression, mania, and psychosis - as delibitating as they are - have ways of bringing us closer to our divine selves. The most credible theory is that our brains are built in a way that fails to filter out info and perceptions the way "normal" brains do. We have more stuff coming in, which means it is very easy to get overwhelmed and lose it.
But if we can handle the "incoming" ... the places we can go.
I would suggest that when things get too much for you, it's not because of evil spirits but because you get overwhelmed. Too much stuff for the brain to deal with. By all means explore your spirituality. You might want to check out how Carl Jung used his own psychotic episodes as staging areas for his own voyage of self-discovery.
In other words, think of yourself as a gifted individual, but always living close to the edge. The view from the edge is unbelievable, but we must be careful, very careful.
As for evil spirts - I submit it is dangerous to take this approach in our culture. The societies who ascribe mental illness to evil spirits do so in the context of cultures thousands of years old. They have a very healthy approach to the whole thing. It fits their mindset. There is no stigma. The community rallies around the afflicted, which improves outcomes You can read about this in Ethan Watters "The Americanization of Mental Illness."
Evil spirits have a whole different context in our culture. They are linked to the Devil and divine punishment. There is an unhealthy medieval mindset.
Take home message: Explore your spirituality, be careful about going over the edge, leave the evil spirits to other cultures.
Hope this helps ...
Schizophrenia is a biological brain disorder. Evil spirits do not cause schizophrenia. People diagnosed with this illness need to take medication to alleviate their symptoms. If you have been diagnosed with schizophrenia, please take your medication to have the best chance of recovery. Should you experiences voices you may need medication. A qualified psychiatrist can confirm or rule out the diagnosis and also blood work will need to be done to rule out another medical condition.
Why then does all my research sugest otherwise? I have gathered evidence from many sources. It is true when you say evil spirits do not cause schizophrenia. However for some what causes it is sin. I am a seeker of truth I have read evidence that I have been potentially misdiagnosed. Some have gone as far to suggest that I am clairaudient, clairvoyant,etc. Some have said I am possessed. Some have said I am gifted. Some have said to me I am not mentally ill at all. My sources of information include the following. The bible, new age, metaphysics, people from churches, people who are like myself, doctors, preachers, and teachers, anyone and everyone has told me something different. What you have told me I have already heard, from many other people,and many other people told me something different. Some of which were doctors as well. I have been living with this hellish dis-ease since 1995. The only difference now is Im not paranoid with voices or hallucinations. I understand the nature of reality. I just percieve it differently then the many. Wake up! You shall know the truth and the truth shall set me and the others free.
Adam, it sounds like you have had widely varying answers to your question. Some, it seems, are what you want to hear. You want to feel special and gifted, not mentally ill. Yes, there are passages in the Bible that refer to people being possessed by demons, but there is no evidence that modern-day schizophrenia is a result of demonic possession or the result of any sin of yours or your ancestors.
But, Adam, 1 in every 100 people have schizophrenia. Wouldn't it seem odd if "evil spirits" attacked exactly that many people worldwide year after year? Another evidence that schizophrenia is simply a disease like any other is the fact that it responds to medication.
When I was a child, the Devil began to appear to me in a whirlwind and tell me what a bad, sinful person I was and that I would have to atone for my sins. I don't have to do that, I realize now, because Jesus took my sins on himself. I began to hear voices and see people and became very depressed. This continued to get worse over the years until I was diagnosed with schizophrenia 14 years ago. My psychiatrist worked with me to find the antipsychotic that was most effective in my case. Each person is different in his or her response to meds. Since that time, I have ceased hearing voices (including the Devil's,) the "people" in my head have disappeared, and depression rarely bothers me.
The literature says that exorcism performed on a schizophrenic is of absolutely no value, and may even make the person worse because it confirms his belief in the "evil spirits" theory. If medications work, why not take them? You may not believe it, but the right meds can change how you feel about spirits, clairvoyance, etc. The meds will allow you to change your focus on these things to a focus on helping others and living a joyous, productive life.
Wake up! Has your version of "the truth" set you and others free yet? You say you are still living with a hellish disease. I was diagnosed in 1995, too, and with the help of Zyprexa, Wellbutrin, Zoloft and Klonopin I have made great strides forward. I have experienced significant recovery, to the point where I can live on my own now. I am happy, looking forward to what is before me.
Excuse me if i'm being out of line, but i noticed that many people with sz have audio hallucinations of the devil. Or voices that claim such.. Why is that? It is rather curious. i remember that Andrea Yates (who drowned her 5 children approx. 8 years ago) had such hallucinations. Why would the voices that people afflicted with sz be primerly negative?
And finally, and please excuse me again-i do not mean to offend in any way, just to understand, why would a person, even a severly mentally ill one ,think the devil is giving good advice and act upon it? (as did A. Yates and others)
A former blogger here, Robin Cunningham, heard the voice of the devil when he first got sick when he was 13 years old in 1956. He attributes this to having discovered the hypocritical nature of someone he knew that was alllegedly a devout Christian. He believed Satan had come to him and wanted him to atone for his sins.
It is possible that the delusions and paranoia are related to something going on in that person's life, and as such, could be religious in nature.
As wtih all delusions and hallucinations, the reason a person believes the devil is talking to them is because that person cannot differentiate from fact and fiction. This is of course a simpler explanation. I believe that someone with a religious background or upbringing or practice might take any voice of the devil more seriously than someone who was not a believer.
Also: a woman I interviewed for a columen I wrote three years ago heard the scripture in her head. She was a church-going woman and at first believed she was given a special message so that she could communicate with God. Of course this seemingly innocent "gift" turned sinister and she had to be hospitalized against her will and given medication.
Christia, this is someting that has happened before in late 2004. The funny thing about late 04 is I dont remember everything, I only recall some of those events. Later PTSD was labeled on my diagnoises as well. How can I find help or support out there?
Carolyn, I still take medicine today as I did then. What makes my type of sz different has been and still is related to the spirit realm. Everyone on this planet has a level of awareness. Some have it more so. Such individuals are called a danger to society. Even while on meds I woulds see the distorted faces, and some people had an auara around their head. As much and often as I take my meds I can even sense them near and around me. It wasn't untill 2004 that in the first time in my life a certain book I read explained to me the real truth about some of the stuff that was happened to me. Don't you understand what was happening the book confirmed and explained why I was going through this. It wasn't necessarilly that I was crazy. Like I was saying some people are more aware than others, and I percieve it differently, they give my illness a name, and give me meds that don't totally cure it. It only eliviates some of the symptoms.In the meantime I do what I can to eliviate other symptoms such as working, listening to music, hobies. Yet even after all of that Ill go to 12 step meetings and sometimes whoever is speaking will shine or the face will distort. So sometimes I just look at the ground or at the wall. The point is is that I have learned to live with it, and I'm no longer afraid, just aware. I am a truth seeker as I seek truth and reach new levels of awareness I share with others. It is also a 12th step principle. How ever what I'm in need of is trying to piece together events that happened to me in late 2004. Because what happened then, changed me in a permanant sort of way.
The National Center for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder has a website, http://www.ptsd.va.gov/ that is also good for the general public as well as veterans. I used this website for myself the day after the 9/11 attacks on the world trade center when I wanted to find out coping skills for dealing with PTSD.
Also, you can contact NAMI, the National Alliance on Mental Illness at (800) 950-NAMI (6264) to find the name and number of the local affiliate in your area that has weekly peer support meetings for people diagnosed with mental illnesses.
Those are two means of support I can think of right now.
I believe that schizophrenia is actually demon possession. It is described in the Bible very clearly and since it is in God's word, there is no reason to doubt it; but of course science still wants to prove the Bible wrong but they can't. If they were right, all of those heavy duty meds that they put even small children on that are said frequently by parents, "...enough to take down an elephant..." but phasing their child(ren) at all. One father said that he accidently took one of his daughter's pills and it wiped him out and he passed out and when his daughter takes this pill along with an arsenal of other medications doesn't slow down at all. These people here voices that tell them to do violent things including murder, they see them as creatures with odd names and frequently with numbers (sound familiar??? Satan is 666). So a parent with a child who tells them exactly that these are creatures haunting them are ignored and put into pysc wards and on dangerous meds, but no one turns to God for help. It just boggles my mind when it should be the FIRST line of defense for these children. I just don't get it, especially when they know that what they're currently doing IS NOT WORKING!!!
I agree. this person we are all helping has balls. To me it is like being your potential, or being in reality. Ive done both as most of us have. He should read all the answers including mine, It seems as if he can handle the truth and go forward with schizophrenic spirituality, but if he wants reality he has my blessing as well. I worked a recovery that allowed me to work for five years. It was normal reality, so voices became just a brief error, all of it did. Drinking and relapsing on drugs and aspects of spirituality tore me down. Ive felt and heard, fought and killed demons. And becuase of this guys query Ive decided to quit trying normal reality. Ive decided to be myself and he is strong.
I too have been diagnosed with this disorder and like wise believe that it is infact evil spirits that are behind it. Science may beable to determine conditions that favor the onslot of these attacks but it all comes down to sin. We all have it to some degree or another and therefore could all be diagnosed with it; As christians we live with both the "old Man" (sinful nature) and the "new Man" brought about through faith in Christ. Scripture tells us that we can not serve two master and live either we reject christ or reject satan which can only come to be through the work of the Holy Spirit in our Heart. From my experiance it happens at a point of metureing in ones life. We grow up indifferant to sin and then one day relize that we should not be doing what we have been doing so we stop. the brain has become addicted to the things that we have enjoyed doing ( dopamine produceing) and all of a sudden that production changes and voices are heard that aren't there and things may even be seen that are not there. Vision takes up a lot of our brains functioning therefore is less likely to be noticed as a effected part. I did experiance things that does lead others as well as myself to believe that there are forces outside of oneself at play in the process, I saw it once but there was other times that it was merely felt. Once I was certain that there was an angel involved even though I could not see it.
Keep on with the struggle take the meds as prescibed, it can last upwards of ten years for the brain to fully no longer crave the dopamine. Stay rooted in your Lord and saviour Jesus Christ by studdying His word daily.
I woudn't call it demon possesion but perhaps being aware of demons while others who do not suffer from this disorder are not aware of them. There is a strong link with troubles while still in the womb (in my case and my grand mothers roughly the seventh month). The brain is continually growing while in the womb and may become interuped in the process. This may leave the child more supceptible to demon posesion that causes them to do alsorts of wicked things while they are growing up. At some point it will become aperent to them that what they have been doing has been wrong and may have the abillity to stop (by the working of the Holy Spirit in their hearts) while other simply keep right on doing what they have been doing. The bible tells us that when a demon is chased out that it goes through aired space seeking somewere to go ( a new victim) but when it finds nowhere it returns to find the house (body) swept clean and brings seven (many) demons along with itself.(Mt. 12:43-45)Those who do better while suffering from this desease do not allow the demon to return nor the others that it brings with it while those who do suffer have not built up their faith in Christ Jesus and have allowed the demons to take control of their lives. Shizophrenics are often drug users and alchoolic therefore keep on digging a pit for their sorrow to pile up in when they are sober. Their faith is in material things rather than liveing a holy God pleaseing life holding onto Christ as their Lord and saviour.
The apostle paul mentions that he had a "thorn in the flesh" or "Messanger of Satan" yet he wrote more than half of the new testement. It all depends what you set as your number one as to wheather it hinders you or helps you. Paul asked God three times to remove it yet was given the reply " My(God) grace is sufficiant for you." Now adays the wounders of science has allowed us to find ways that usually work but even so if God wants the situation to endure it will. Doesn't mean that we don't use the wounders that God has allowed science to discover though either.
I can totally relate to your situation. I, too, am affected by spiritual beings. And, I as well, have in the past been diagnosed with schizophrenia. I know the frustration you are experiencing and yes, it is hellish! My 19 year old daughter is dealing with it as well and is currently hospitalized.
I would love to know how things are for you now.
If you get this, please email me at llmmnn214 at gmail.
I do think it is possible that some people may actually have a legitimate diagnosis of schizophrenia--those that are actually helped by medication. But for those, like myself, whom medication does not take away any of the symtoms, other answers need to be sought.
Hope to hear from you:)
I completely identify with Cunningham being disheartened by the hypocritical Christian in his life. I even understand the desire to atone for your sins. What's interesting about this is that the Devil's job is to condemn us of our sins; however, Jesus has already atoned for us all. Once we accept that truth in our hearts, then we can start down the Narrow path of righteousness. But the enticing alure of temptation propels us to continue sinning, treating others badly rather than adhering to Jesus' command to "Treat others the way you would want to be treated." We also forget to "Love our neighbors as ourselves." and instead opt to do what we feel like doing and that which is self-serving rather serving others in the name of Christ. It is always possible that people can be influenced by demons. But it is more important to focus on the love that Jesus Christ has for us and that we have been saved by His grace and therefore have nothing to fear.
I do not want to cause alarm in your situation. For one, if and only if this is or was being caused by malevolent spirits, it is probably easier and safer to recover from than a physical or mental disorder. This of course would depend on the strength of the individual and whether or not it is spirit possesion. I also believe it can crossover both ways, ie: you could be possesed causing mental illness, or you could have mental illness causing belief of being possessed. AS this complicates things it also makes it easier to deal with. It is extremely important to recieve sleep and nutrition. This alone can completely balance your body and mind. Also The recovery from possesion or mental illness is not instantaneous. That doesnt make any sense, it takes time gaining hold of your original self. What helped me most of all is my memory of my childhood and of my childhood self. Even during my mental siege- it kept me holding on by a thread, a thread that luckily did not break. When i found time to recover, believe me i had abstract thoughts and ideas for another year or so and finally slowly but surely all subsided and i became in control and of clear rational thought. I can even remember clearly being unrational and babbling things that were absurd, that at the time i thought was right and proper thinking. The Good EXPERTS were thouroughly confused on my case, and labeled it as BI-POLAR disorder, It was clear they had no idea how to catagorize my "illness" and i gave them a run for there money, whether i was possesed or not, they had no normal cure or classification. As for the expert who's opinion appears on top, I think she is narrow minded and very high up on her college earned horse? or podium?. anyways your not alone for thinking of other ideas to what may be behind your mental manipulation. I'm fairly sure in my case it was a mixture of being drug addled (not at all that im accusing you of drug use not at all) and let me defend myself before you discredit my response. being extremely stressed, <i just graduated high school and didn't know where to start, parents going through nasty divorce, mom just got a new house, and plenty of other things going wrong> and flat out spiritual warfare that i had placed myself in willingly and stupidly, My point being is it doesnt always only take one thing to bring about mental confusion or delusions, or loss of control of body and mind. It can be from several contributing factors and it's important to review your entire history and timeline leading up to current events. It may be favorable to forget certain situations but let me tell you its very important for proper recovery to remember and try to ascertain what causes "it" because the so called professionals cannot remember for you, and they almost certainly have no knowledge or beliefs beyond what they learned out of a damned textbook during their immense schooling. Evil and spirits in general may influence thoughts and actions on the physical plane, an evil spirit has to be invited though. at least this is what is currently believed, although it cannot be totally known as it is an occult theory. But you just might have given a lesser spirit partial access to your mind, and it may be trying to get ahold of you. the benefit is if you do not want it in you or to be a part of it, it really is as simple as not allowing them or it inside of you. Think of it as the choices of who you hang out with- you don't have to hang out with the "bad" crowd but some people are willing to be a part of that group. Thats exactly how Possession occurs. it may also be influenced by a particular obsession, anything at all that you are not willing to let go of and/or are constantly thinking about may lead to possession. "does it not bring about the possibility of OCD pationts having a connection with spiritual Possession then?" i believe it opens up the doorway between possession and mental illness.
Going to a priest would be ill advised if you believe you our possessed, i am fairly certain the modern church is not to be trusted at all, there are individuals who work with special cases of possession, usually for a profit, which makes me wonder if greed and evil hasn't got to them as well, although traveling costs money and they usually are willing to visit you. The reason i do not reccomend going to the church is they typically don't even believe what they preach and I'm sorry this is true. If you want out of what you got yourself into, It has to start with you and you alone. IT is a dangerous world if you are playing with spirits.
Say you are having a neurological disorder, you will have to get help, I wouldn't recommend a hospital visit unless its severe but psychiatry may help, if its not a spiritual thing that is. If your going to the doctors claiming possession unfortunately you may be locked up and deemed schizophrenic. Most modern doctors are boring bookworms with a limited spiritual belief system. And if you believe you are to possessed in the first place, what makes you think this? Im not trying to sound rude or sarcastic, i mean have you been playing with spiritual things or ideas? maybe even a simple ouiji board, anything at all to open yourself to the other side may trigger some things.
In your case however it seems the symtoms are minor, whether spiritual or mental. taps are not as bad as scratches, and voices and thoughts are not as bad as full blown auditory hallucinations. I'm not saying to ignore your signs at all but giving hope to you that you are definetely able to recover from this. There are bigger and badder demons and there are more severe mental disorders. Thank you for any who finished reading this article, Science and Religion still have a lot of blending to do.
I am on meds for "psychosis", "shizophrenia" and "unknown situations" ..... I firmly believe the 1% of us are affected by EVIL beings, however that is so. However the meds have responded and the voices and hallucinations have ended. What every doctor I've talked to doesn't understand is that they will NEVER understand this condition as much as they think they are trained to do so ..... it is SUPERNATURAL and EVIL. To be an educated doctor and NOT give this a possibility makes me laugh every time I go to get a prescription. Who is to say that the excess dopamine or seratonin is not the result of a supernatural experience? Please give me your thoughts O' educated ones ...you should listen to the victims and be scared, let me tell you ..... us victims are personal examples of torment that probably exists on the dark side after death ...we are not alone, trust me.
Most definatly. Evil is real right? Yes. It is the wosrt thing right? Yes. It can and has for thousands of years driven us crazy. When we surface from a hard time we cling to things that are important. Like an amazing strength and spirituality, we earned it, we didnt just get it. They arte like the voice of our illness, not everybody, but devout thankful spirits with the illness. My evil spirits, my illness, wants me to kill myself, naturally becuaseI am good. You cxant have the amazing spirituality without God and evil but some can, God knows its confusing. So if you deny the amazing spirituality, you are still a Christain and your problems will be less. I advise this be strong and follow your faith, and fight.
Ive gone up and down deep down. Im not going to do it again and forget about it to get torn down again. Going up and down hurts so much. If it is all in Gods hands and you present your options to him he can ok the biggest descision you can make.
Why doesn't someone talk about love ? What's it all about folks ?
Good,evil,black,white,illness,wellness. We all need love and cannot survive without it. Love made you and me. Love made everything. Love loves us.
We love love. If we can feel ok and make life work, we are working with love.
If there is something wrong, like the seeker, we look for an answer. If we don't find an answer, we keep looking. If someone has the answer and it is the one we want, then we accept it. And we should be grateful. Look within.
If that disturbs you, then find help.
"God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that whom ever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life" We needed a saviour and God has provided one. Saddly all that we can do by our own doing however is relize that we need a saviour. The Bible is the only place that shows us the true source of our hope of etenal life. Books like Harry Potter for instence deal with temorary suffering but not the long term suffering that we all really deserve, Our hearts are set contrary to Gods will right from conception ( yes concetion egg joining sperm not birth). Harry Potter before the final battle is basically a schizophrenic that was able to use the spiritual bond of both souls in a positive sense. We like harry Potter have split souls as Christians. The Old Adam (man) is selfish and self seeking but the new man seeks to serve God and do His will. What it basically comes down to with schitzophrenics is a burrdened conscience (Yes that is right con(against)-science originally knowing the will of God for Adam and Eve before they ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
I can relate to what you are saying. I was diagnosed with schizophrenia about couple of years ago. I have been going through different stages of so called "hallucinations". Initially I was only hearing voices and (I'm not insane) there were somebody else voices. Then I have started smelling things that have no appatent source. Recently when I'm just about to fall asleep I feel something or someone is hitting me and the sensation is absolutely real. I'm suprised people who have never experienced anything like that so easily comment on mental ilness. It's not true all (I call them spirits) are evil. Some of them are good and are trying to help. If somebody tells you it's all disfunction of your brain - they have no clue what there are talking about.
I waged war the devil at 14 and had become schizoprenic at 17..
The devil is the only cause of paranoia..
When you are attacked with super occult powers and you can't retaliate.. You go mad!!!! The God of the old testament is the devil who cursed me.. I waged war against him because he kept annoying me emotionally and wasn’t doing shit for me.. yet he kept wanting me to be afraid of punishment and all that.. At a very young age.. So I used my mind to attack him and then he attacked my mind.. This is not the God Jesus preached..He will curse you and loves blood and meat!!!!
omg this is the same revelation a got right after my first attack
U r being punished by the holy spirit due 2 sin. Do u use drugs? U have evil spirits in ur life. This happened to me. GOD and his family reached out to me. Stop sinning and turn to Jesus.
The devil is the only cause of paranoia or as you call it "Evil Spirits"..
When you are attacked with super occult powers and you can't retaliate.. You go mad!!!!
I have schizophrenia too. At first the voices were evil spirits, then i came to know its the brain, but its evil. Created to torture people, hence fat people and ugly people and little people and all kinds of bad things. Schizophrenia is like a dream except a nightmare. I believe in the future it will be known as the "broken dream state". And it can be a demon or someone from Earth if it wants. There is an underground of phychics though but in my situation they wouldn't be able to talk for three years straight like mines been doing, so you'd need to research phychics and undergrounds. And the brain was created by the next level up, infinity, then after that we go back where we belong which is far beyond infinity. But in this Adventure we gain things from all sorts of things like pain and evil and by being on this level of existence and not infinite. The only clue for you that i can say to know that it's an evil brain thing is, take a look around and at yourself and see that you a human with brains and guts and not your soul, on this level of existence you would be your true soul like as if you were in the place of orgin it's not to hard to understand. But what I'm getting at is.....a soul doesnt have a brain.
I believe there are several contributing factors in regards to Schizophrenia:
1/ Nutrition - GAPS-prosessed food - starvation
4/ emotion/ trauma
5/ anger / hurt
6/ Drugs / alcohol
7/ Mental vulnerability
8/ And evil spirit involvement
I truly believe that once someone enters into a psychosis they are able to be possessed. However depending on your innate spirituality, will determine whether you become violent towards others or more self destructive.
When my daughter entered into a psychosis, I had completed ten units of psychology at uni. However I am also a practising christian. When I saw my daughter she was psychotic and her eyes had literally changed to black. They were not my daughters eyes and she kept calling me by my first name which she never ever did.
In addition to this, she knew about events before they happened and she kept saying to me that they told me you would come and ruin everything Kylie. She kept telling me that they told her Kylie would come and try to ruin everything because she thought that she needed to go to Malaysia / Asia for some reason.
To cut a long story short when she came home there was a lot of paranormal activity happening in our home for a while. Although now it is not so bad but she still talks to evil spirits everyday. Unfortunately sometimes they become the only friends (real enemies ) to people that suffer from Schizophrenia.
I do believe that Schizophrenia is a combination of toxic brain GAPS and evil spirit intervention. Remember it was when Jesus had fasted for fourty days that satan approached him in his low vulnerable state to try to tempt and convince him to go against GOD!
The biological disease of schizophrenia is bad enough without attributing it to demon possession. In my case, I have responded to medication. I doubt anyone would believe medication can control demon possession. Other people with schizophrenia have not responded to medication. Some people who have cancer respond to medication, some don’t. That doesn’t mean they are more or less possessed by a Satanic power. Same way with diabetics, those with Alzheimer’s, MS, or any other disease. God made us individuals, with individual capacity to respond to medication. I am not determined “evil” or “good” by how medication affects me, but by the choices I make.
I believe schizophrenia has its seductions, also. It is somewhat alluring to feel you are special, that other people don’t have your capacity to see beyond the ordinary or be visited by other-worldly spirits or to attribute to yourself above average creative powers. But that doesn’t mean it’s true. It is also possible to “confirm” anything you want to believe through literature or experience or the anecdotes of others. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true either. There was a time when I refused medication because I didn’t want to be “like everyone else.” It was a difficult transition to make from the inner world of schizophrenia to learning how to live in the outer world along with other “normal” people. We have to be careful of these seductions.
I think John McManamy was right when he said you have to be careful -- standing on the edge like many of us do is an extraordinary experience. We are not able to define or control what happens there sometimes, even with our considerable powers of observation and self-expression. We often are unable to pull back from the edge, even with powerful medication. Scientists are not able to accurately or adequately define all aspects of the physical world. We can never hope to do so with the spiritual world. Mystery is not a bad thing. Explore. Educate yourself. Experience what your senses tell you and draw your own conclusions. No one can do that for you. Or for me.