REM while awake

fdudley Community Member September 24, 2007
  • Is it possible to experience REM while awake?  Sometimes, when trying to fall asleep, I have the feeling that my eyes are moving about rapidly under closed lids, and the sensation is just sufficiently uncomfortable to prevent me from falling asleep.  When this happens, I have to sit up in bed and look around the room to bring myself to full wakefulness, and then start the falling asleep process again from the beginning.
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  • Anonymous
    Mofro415
    Dec. 17, 2012
    I've undergone the sleep paralysis that many of you are describing. At one point it happened quiet frequently and it startled me because I couldn't move and felt like I could hardly breath as if someone was holding me down by my chest. That hasn't happened in awhile because I started sleeping on my chest rather than back but now I started experiencing something...
    RHMLucky777
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    I've undergone the sleep paralysis that many of you are describing. At one point it happened quiet frequently and it startled me because I couldn't move and felt like I could hardly breath as if someone was holding me down by my chest. That hasn't happened in awhile because I started sleeping on my chest rather than back but now I started experiencing something different at work. Pretty much was happens is I will be running a job and close my eyes for a second and the next thing I know I start hearing voices talking to me. Weird enough is I start talking back not out loud but have a conversation in my head. Funny part is I'm still working as if nothing is going on but I'm more or less just out of it and I don't know why or how it happens so fast and does not affect me physically. Any ideas?
  • Anonymous
    Henry
    Sep. 19, 2008

    It happened to me too. I couldn't move and i saw two rapidly moving black dots, then my eyes opened, and the whole room was shaking. Seconds later, I felt as if I had slept for a full night. Please, someone explain to me what the heck happened

    • Anonymous
      pdiddyyall
      May. 13, 2010

      i constantly experience the same thing and it can be very annoying.  it can also be an 'almost but not quite entertaining' party trick.  i also experience sleep paralysis on a more than normal basis.  i tried ambien and it did help me relax and eventually fall asleep but never helped me stay sleep through the night....better than nothing i suppose. ...

      RHMLucky777

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      i constantly experience the same thing and it can be very annoying.  it can also be an 'almost but not quite entertaining' party trick.  i also experience sleep paralysis on a more than normal basis.  i tried ambien and it did help me relax and eventually fall asleep but never helped me stay sleep through the night....better than nothing i suppose.  i currently take clonidine for sleep, not to be confused with clonopin. maybe its time to ask the doc for something else. any recomendations?

    • medstudent87
      Aug. 19, 2010

      There is an association with other sleep disorders like narcolepsy (they have random bouts of REM sleep during the day. One really draumatic form is called cataplexy. Look it up on youtube.) Sleep paralysis, hallucinations, those are something you find in narcolepsy.

      I've also heard of insomnia precipitating things like this.

      One of the things you might want...

      RHMLucky777

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      There is an association with other sleep disorders like narcolepsy (they have random bouts of REM sleep during the day. One really draumatic form is called cataplexy. Look it up on youtube.) Sleep paralysis, hallucinations, those are something you find in narcolepsy.

      I've also heard of insomnia precipitating things like this.

      One of the things you might want to do is try having a routine for sleeping. Allocate yourself specific times to go to sleep and stick to them until you fall into that routine. Also, avoid eating, reading and just laying around in bed. Try to designate your bedroom as a spot for only sleeping. That might help as well.

       

  • Anonymous
    Devin
    Jun. 23, 2008

    Sometimes, when trying to fall asleep, I have the feeling that my eyes are moving about rapidly under closed lids, and the sensation is just sufficiently uncomfortable to prevent me from falling asleep , I also experience this as a matter of fact i did last night. While I'm doing this i get mixed or botached images much like a dream not making sense , jumping...

    RHMLucky777

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    Sometimes, when trying to fall asleep, I have the feeling that my eyes are moving about rapidly under closed lids, and the sensation is just sufficiently uncomfortable to prevent me from falling asleep , I also experience this as a matter of fact i did last night. While I'm doing this i get mixed or botached images much like a dream not making sense , jumping from one random image to another . Does this how to anyone else ?

  • Anonymous
    Max
    Feb. 07, 2008
    It is very possible to experience REM while awake. I, as well as other people I know, can do REM while awake on command.
    • fdudley
      Feb. 08, 2008

      A question for Max.  Can you transition from waking REM to normal sleep?   How do you do that?

    • Anonymous
      Max
      Feb. 12, 2008

      I'm not exactly sure, I haven't tried it while trying to sleep. It's mostly just a party trick for me.

    • mastermind
      Jun. 10, 2010

      Hey Max,

       

      I also think that I can do REM on command while awake, but I need to confirm that... what does it feel like?? Does everything go blurred and your eyes vibrate from left to right or so??

      I can do that, and that freaks out a lotta people...!! lol

       

    • medstudent87
      Aug. 19, 2010

      eyes wiggling left to right is not REM sleep. If there is no specific axis for the movements, then that's REM sleep. If your eyes are rolling around and looking diagonally that's a good indication of REM.

    • Anonymous
      lola cola
      May. 29, 2011

      I woke resently in  R E M state,..my vision was dizzing ,..I could see in all directions,..it hurt like a terrible headache i felt my eyes buldging as if being pushed outward.,..my eyes today hurt badly and were very dry after I went to sleep again and woke in the morning time,..btw it happend around 3:30 am  lasted for about 7 min I...

      RHMLucky777

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      I woke resently in  R E M state,..my vision was dizzing ,..I could see in all directions,..it hurt like a terrible headache i felt my eyes buldging as if being pushed outward.,..my eyes today hurt badly and were very dry after I went to sleep again and woke in the morning time,..btw it happend around 3:30 am  lasted for about 7 min I gather cause I sat upwardly fell backwards being so dizzy and heard the t.V show come on until a commercial.,I rewoke at 6:30 am,..

    • Anonymous
      Me
      Mar. 18, 2012
      Im about 15 and i can do REM on command easily without any strain on my eyes or fear ect ect. I've been able to do it since 1st grade and my sister can do it easily to but she doesnt do it as much so it still puts strain on her eyes.
  • Anonymous
    Michael Rack, MD
    Sep. 24, 2007

    Sometimes REM sleep intrudes onto wakefulness.  This is common in narcolepsy, but can also occur in people without sleep disorders.

     

    REM occurring as a person is falling asleep can be experienced as hallucinations or sleep paralysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis )

     

    Michael Rack, MD

    • Anonymous
      Lee McDonald
      Nov. 11, 2009

      When I was younger mabye about 10, sometimes when trying to sleep my eyes would move around the room alot and my heart would race and any noises, like rain would seem really loud. These episodes never really stopped but we never a regular occurance. Im now 19 and I moved to Japan for work 2 monthes ago. Since moving here I have suffered from these episodes...

      RHMLucky777

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      When I was younger mabye about 10, sometimes when trying to sleep my eyes would move around the room alot and my heart would race and any noises, like rain would seem really loud. These episodes never really stopped but we never a regular occurance. Im now 19 and I moved to Japan for work 2 monthes ago. Since moving here I have suffered from these episodes on a regular basis. Nearly everynight. All I near to do is think about the rain falling outside and I slip into an episode. I do understand what 'Max' means about doing this at will because I have done it a few times (which i later regreted). I feel fear while this is happening, my heart races and my eyes move around the room so fast. Any tiny movement like moving a finger or an arm or my head seems 10x faster and harder than I should. I'm finding this really hard to explain because it's not something that ive ever talked to anyone about so im not sure how to put into words. This is really starting to effect my sleep. The only way i can try and bring myself back around is by sitting up in the room and reassuring myself that im okay and trying not to move my limbs.

       

      If anyone knows of a condition like this or has experienced similar nights please let me know. flearoy@hotmail.co.uk

       

       

      thanks

       

      Lee

    • medstudent87
      Aug. 19, 2010

      I can induce the state you're describing and I too find it rather alarming. I've never been touched while I'm doing it but sound is super intense. When I wake myself up, i have trouble coordinating my arms and legs, sound perception is altered and I feel unusual. Same deal with the eyes moving around. Try a sedative and see if that helps get rid of it. Not...

      RHMLucky777

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      I can induce the state you're describing and I too find it rather alarming. I've never been touched while I'm doing it but sound is super intense. When I wake myself up, i have trouble coordinating my arms and legs, sound perception is altered and I feel unusual. Same deal with the eyes moving around. Try a sedative and see if that helps get rid of it. Not melatonin. Alcohol might work because it interferes with REM sleep which is what you're describing.

      One thing I'm having the most trouble with, my breathing slows down to a halt and I feel like I'm suffocating. It scares me awake.

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