My 8-month-old son is unable to sleep through the night. He wakes up constantly -- sometimes even every hour -- and my husband and I cannot get a decent night's rest. Can someone offer advice on what to do about this?
Here are some suggestions for ways to help your son's sleep:
- Cut out one of his naps during the day and see if it allows him to sleep better at night.
- If your son is sleeping in the same room with you, move him into another room so he can begin to cope with his wake ups on his own. You could keep a baby monitor on low so that you are still aware of how he's faring in the other room.
- Try timing his last feeding a bit later and putting him down just a bit later to see if that helps to put him into a deeper sleep.
- Check his diet and make sure you are not giving him anything that would make him more awake, including caffeine in bits of chocolate or processed sugar in any solids he's eating.
- Make sure he is not gassy or fussy from gas. This will make it more difficult for him to sleep.
Here are some articles you might find useful:
Rocking Yourself to Sleep Can Benefit Adults
12 Tips for Getting Healthy Sleep
How Sleep Affects Overall Health
Healthgal I need some suggestions PLEASE.
I have a soon to be 8 mont old that will NOT NAP for me. I am so frustrated at this point I don't know what to do. she naps great in the morning, wakes around 630 or 7 in the morning and is down for a 1.5-2hr nap by 9am...the afternoons are a complete BUST. she spends the time she should be sleeping, crying. I have tried to use the E.A.S.Y. method and it isn't working, I have tried/am trying the cry it out method, and it definitely isn't working either. She isn't happy awake with any of her toys and she won't sleep. What in the world am I doing wrong??? She sleeps all night long too...
I have tried nursing her (she is breast fed and on some solid foods now) to sleep which I know is a big no-no if I ever want her to fall asleep on her own, but at this point I will do ANYTHING to get her to nap...HELP!!
Apologies for taking several days to reply - I was traveling- I have to share the fact that my daughter also "dropped" her afternoon nap by 7-8 months. You might try delaying her am nap, though, and maybe getting a 2.5 hour break or even 3 hr break with one long mid-day nap. If she sleeps well during the night you are way ahead of the game.
I have the opposite problem! My (almost) 8-month old, takes short naps during the day, which leaves him overtired at night and therefore doesn't sleep well at night! We have a good bedtime routine, and good nap routines too. He is teething (again - his 2nd top tooth) and also fighting tummy trouble...but he hasn't been getting enough sleep all week and it is exhausting! Finally about two weeks ago we got him to sleep in his crib, and he was taking 2-3 hour nap (twice a day) and only waking once or twice at night; this past Saturday night he slept the entire night in his crib!!!! But ever since -- he's only been taking 1-hour (or less) naps and waking once an hour at night! And, in the early hours of the morning the only place he'll sleep is in my arms! He'll be zonked out, limpless when I put him down and within 10-minutes he'll wake up crying; if I let him cry it out, he usually rolls himself over and won't settle down...he starts rocking back and forth, moving all about and bumping his head into the crib railings! I know he's uncomfortable...but I just don't know what to do!!! Any advice would be great!!!!
HI, WE HAD A SIMILAR PROBLE. WE ARE FIRST TIME PARENTS AND OUR BABY HAS ONLY NOW AT 14 WEEKS STARTED TO SLEEP THROUGH. FIRST THING IS TO ENSURE THAT YOUR BABY GETS ENOUGH MILK. OUR BABY HAS REFLUX AND WOKE UP FREQUENTLY BECAUSE OF THE REFLUX. WE GIVE OUR BABY SOME "MUTHI WENYONI" AFTER A REFLUX TO SOOTH HER THROAT (CALMS THE ACID). WE ALSO STARTED FEEDING HER "NOVALAC AR". THIS IS HEAVIER MILK THUS STAYING IN HER STOMACH LONGER. SHE PICKED UP WEIGHT AND IS SLEEPING MUCH MUCH BETTER. GREETINGS RIAAN
Try using a sleeping bag, that might help a bit. Can u let him sleep in your arms in the morning until this stage passes?
OMG!! Are you seriously complaining about not napping when she is sleeping through the night???Consider yourself lucky. It is now 6:15 a.m and i have been up with my 7 month old son since 4:30 and previous to that he has been up every hour and a half tonight. I WISH he would not nap and sleep through the night instead. I'm sorry If I seem rude, but I'm just exhausted and to see you complain about napping when she sleeps through the night just seems crazy to me!! If you know she will sleep through the night it might help you cope better in the day knowing that you will at least get a nights sleep. Try going more places and doing more things with her, that may tire her out. She probably isn't napping though, because she is well rested from sleeping through the night!!!!!
Some babies even if they are sleeping through the night need naps during the day too. If they are sleeping all night and then screaming all day cause they are tired and need to take a nap, then it would make sense that they need help. Don't be so rude to people just because they have a different problem than yours.
hi there i am going through the same thing and my husband isnt around much either because of work its very hard I know! I was nursing but had to put my sone on a soy lactose free formula because my doctor figured he was lactose intolerant it hasnt solved the problem 100 % but it has improved. It could be possible maybe this is whats going on with your little one also? I also had a few nights where holding my son was the only thing i could do to keep him calm but he would scream in pain and thrash but i have not had a night like that since the change of formula. Good luck and remember yout not alone :-)
I just read your post and it's like deja vu!! I have an 8 month old baby girl. She had been sleeping consistently from 8PM to 4AM, would get up once to eat, and then go back to sleep until around 7 or so. A few weeks ago, she got an ear infection and was up constantly for about a week, which is understandable. Now though, the ear infection is gone, and the sleep problems continue. She still goes to bed at around 8PM, but is up anywhere from ever 1-4 hours all night long. I have tried getting up with her to feed her, giving her tylenol/motrin in case she is having teething pain, letting her cry it out. Nothing is working. If I let her cry, sometimes she'll go back to sleep, but often times she'll keep crying off and on for an hour until I finally feel so bad I have to get up and go to her. I cannot console her in her crib...I have to pick her up and either feed her or rock her back to sleep. She also never used to take long naps during the day but now is averaging a couple of 1-3 hour naps. I don't know what the problem is, but it's so frustrating because she was sleeping so well. I thought this was supposed to get a bit better as they get older, not worse!! How are you coping now? Any changes in your baby?
Hang in there - it's hard, but just know you aren't the only one. Hopefully it will pass.
My 7 months old daughter wakes up every 2 hrs or even more often. She is on solids 3 -2 times a day and her last dinner is around 5-6pm. On the top of that she gets her breastmilk until she goes to her coat at 8pm. Of course then she wakes up (actually she sleeps and breastfeed) every 2 hr or even more often. The feeds are very short and she goes to her coat easily, however waking up 6 and more times a night makes me extremely tired.When I try to ignore her being noisy she wakes up properly and she takes longer time to fall asleep . She settles after I offer her my milk but then she feeds quickly and for a very short time. Very rarely her dummy helps. I have breastfed her exclusively and on demand until she was 6 months old.When her dad comes to help, she won't settle and I have to offer her milk to calm her down. She always has been a grazer but I hoped that this would stop with the age. What shall I do ? I have to stop that as I am walking on my last reserve of energy and next month I will have to go back to work(I work at nights). I am afraid that her dad won't be able to look after her at nights, he also needs some good sleep as he works full time.PLEASE HELP :(
Some of the questions lactation experts ask when a situation like this presents is-
(a) Are you sure that every time she is fussy she need milk? At this point you could try a small bottle of water or see if something else is bothering her - could certain foods you are eating be upsetting her stomach - are you eating a less bland diet at this point and could elements in the milk be changing the taste.
(b) I also breast fed exclusively for 6 months and I introduced food very slowly but I definitely began to extend the periods in between the breast milk feedings because solids were being introduced. I also gave the cereal at night since it definitely helped with satiating my daughter through the night, allowing me to nurse her around 11 pm and then getting her to sleep till about 5 or 6 am - certainly a huge boost to my own sleep.
So I would look at those things and try playing around with the nursing/feeding cycle - but I would also talk to my pediatrician and see if he concurs with this advice or if he has some other thoughts, advice.
I CAN NOT believe you are complaining that your baby wont nap! How lazy are you???? You're baby sleeps through the night!!! Try going through what us other mums have to...my 7 month old wakes every 1-2 hours and only has two 30min naps in the day!
Think youself lucky and stop to think how insulting and insensitive you are being to us who are REALLY suffering
Did you ever find a solution to your problems? Your letter is something I could've written word for word. My son was such a good sleeper until 4 months. Then he'd wake up a few times, now it's every 3 hours. Doesn't nap regularly. Sometimes 1/2 hour, sometimes 2 hours (VERY rare). So frustrating. We're doing everything we're supposed to but to no avail. Ugh. Hoping you found some magical combination of events to help
Oh dear, this is my story exactly! She used to sleep 4-6 hrs,2-3,1-2 hrs nightly from birth. Then at 3.5 mths, she started waking every 2-3 hrs. Now its more like every 1-2. I thought that introducing solids at 6 months would help, but she's no better. She is 7 1/2 mths old now. Ive just accepted the fact this is how it's going to be for a while. I co-sleep, so get a decent amount of sleep each night...but still wake up half a dozen times and only nursing gets her back to sleep. In my eyes, the only option is to let her CIO, but I am not willing to do that. You will need to get her used to a cup or bottle of milk. I am slowly trying to get my daughter to take a cup of breastmilk..but not having much luck. It may be a hard first few nights when your hubby has her, but she will have no choice but to accept the change. I wish you luck! I have to return to work early when she's 10 1/2 mths and am dreading the thought!
I think that maybe you do need to get more sleep!!! My baby doesn't sleep throught the night either, but I am not going to be soooo RUDE to someone b/c the are having a problem that YOU don't think is a big deal! Keep your rude posts to yourself and have a little more RESPECT!!!
Have you tried taking her out for a stroll or a car ride in the afternoon? The excitement of new things tires them out.
OMG OMG!! I couldnt agree more!... Giiiiirrrll u don't know what you have!... A baby that sleeps through the night?.. Wow!... I can only wish for that! Listening to this is soooo frustrating!.. Lol.. I havnt slept since i went into labour 8 months ago!... U are sooo lucky to have a baby that sleeps through the night... It's unreal!... My 8 month old son wakes up every hour or two and sometimes even less.. There was even a point where he even woke up every 15 minutes! I don't know if this sound rediculous to you, but it's true... This is my 3rd child and I never had any of these problems with my other two and I'm not doing ANYTHING any different... I breastfed all 3... It is sooo true that every child is different... I dont even think think that I need sleep anymore I'm so used to not sleeping AT ALL!! It's madness!!
I don't even know what to do...
I would no doubt without any hesitation take your "problem" over mine any day!!!
hi i AM IN THE SAME BOAT AND IM GOING BANANAS! I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING! I GUESS MISERY DOES LOVE COMPANY CAUSE (THIS MAY SOUND NUTS) BUT I FEEL COMFORT KNOWING THAT WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES GOING THROUGH THIS! MY SON ALSO WON'S SLEEP LONGER THAN 2 HOURS SINCE BIRTH AND HAS TWO NAPS ABOUT AN HOUR EACH DURING TE DAY. IM GOING TO TRY CRY IT OUT SOON WHEN MY HUSBAND GOES ON VACATION SO I HAVE HELP.
Hi, you sound like you're at your wits end.. my heart goes out to you. Do you live in a town or city where there's a Mum's group or a little playgroup for the kids? It would get you all out and give you something else to focus on. I meet other Mums one day a week at a breastfeeding group and it's such a supportive environment, the babies are all ages but there are three others the same age as my DD so we can talk about developmental issues or concerns about our kids. The other thing I would suggest is getting onto the forums, two that I know of are mumsnet.com and bubhub.com.au and searching for other people who have the same problem and see what they suggest. I don't have any suggestions about your son but I do think it would help you to get out and get some support from a Mum's group.
Wishing you all the best.
WOW...I would hate to live with you! I'd be willing to bet they didn't make these message boards for people like you to just spout off your "rude" opinion. Most doctors and books advise that babies this young need sleep during the day to sleep better at night. Plus, you call her lazy? I bet most mom's would agree that they need a break during the day, I wouldn't call that lazy, probably "normal" sounds more fitting here. You sound like the insulting, insensitive one here!
I agree completely, babies do need naps during the day - the longer the better, and I agree that mums need a break, trust me, I would love one. And I would never begrudge anyone a break, being a mum is hard work. But what you are not appreciating is that if a baby sleeps through the night, then mum has lots of time to catch up on sleep herself, and I dont see the fact that a baby doesn't take an afternoon nap as being a problem, and if it is seen as a problem then I believe you are very lucky mums indeed. Some mums would love to be able to have more than 2 hours sleep in a row...you must agree there is a big difference!
My opinion wasnt meant to be rude, just extremely surprised that the issue needed raising in the first place!
I feel for you my little girl was hard work and it can be so exhausting. Loads of my
friends advised me use the wysoy formula by sma as they had great success with
their babies who were constantly crying etc I tried the goats milk which was
dear but she settled a bit but often wondered should I have gone for the soya one.
Hope things get better for you and dont forget to take some time out for yourself
if you can and switch off. Lots of us know what your going through and hopefully
you will be over this stage soon
I really feel for you hun, contact Ngala parenting helpline they are fantastic 9368 9368 or 1800 111 546 you will leave a message and they will call you back. It will be a great start for you to get support and hands on help. I have only heard good feed back be honest and open as you have and i'm sure people will only be willing to help you. Also i found the breast feeding hotline fantastic as they answer any time night or day 1800 6862 686. I'm sure you know of these numbers please call and get support my heart breaks for you, i also have trouble soothing my son i just put him in the pram and walk when i don't know what else to do the fresh air helps to clear my head, baths use to work but now he screams i just think of its a stage and try to stay positive. I find if i get upset when i try to calm him i have to call someone to take him, i truly believe they feel your energy when you strees they stress. My thoughts are with you all i hope things get better xo take care be strong
everyone always talks about how well behaved my baby is. my son does the same thing hes upt at 7 and down for a nap by 10.. anytime he s unhappy with his toys i Hand him smething he has never seen. we have to remember they havent seen ANYTHING we have EVER, so i hand him sunglasses or something simple.. he spends forever just trying to figure out what the heck it is.. you just have to keep them occupied
It sounds to me as if your baby has silent reflux. We had the same thing with our little girl (now 7 months old). She screamed non stop for the first 14 weeks until we could not take it any longer and we brought her to A & E one night as we couldn't take any more. We had tried every formula to see if it would make a difference and it didn't. The doctors put her on losec - 10mg per day and it made all the difference. We still have problems with wind and pains in her belly but the screaming stopped instantly as she had been suffering from heartburn from the acid in her belly constantly. We still have to be careful what we feed her - nothing acidic i.e. fruit or tomatoes etc but there is a big improvement now. She is still on the medication and have been told that she could be on it until she is 1 year old. My heart goes out to you - no one understands unless they have been through it and it is unbelieveably tough on you. Get the baby checked out for silent reflux and hopefully you may get some answers.
Hi! how are you doing now? I went to the same thing during three months. My baby once cried almost 24 h non-stop. She would cry every day since she was born. I was going totally crazy. Now things are better for us. And you?
Hello.. I just happened upon your comment, and I hope you get this reply.... You are not worthless, and it is very difficult to parent without the support of a good partner, or any good friends to seek advice from. I hope your baby boy has styled down a little, are you breast-feeding? My 9+ month old boy wakes all through the night, not sure why he can't sleep for longer intervals. I see that there are some very unkind mothers on this pages insulting fellow mothers which I think is not only unhelpful and unsupportive, but deplorable behavior. Please drop me a line if you get this I will help in any way I can, I also have a 4 year daughter. Hope to hear from you.
That sounds so hard. I have help and am exhausted with a much easier baby. It sounds like you are post partum and could use some help. Do you have an OBGYN? I would call and make an appointment. Tell them how you feel and they should help you. If not, find another doctor. I am sure your baby loves you. It is so hard to be a baby and he does not know how to soothe himself. Call your pediatrician again. A baby who cries so much and cannot be soothed despite you efforts probably needs some medical attention. It is likely he has colic or reflux. Keep calling until they listen to you or find another doctor. You are a good mother for asking for help and your son will appreciate it later. I have found many times medical professionals think parents are exagerating and do not listen closely until you tell them in detail multiple times. I am sure things will get better for you. Also, if you are at your wits end, put the baby in his crib where he is safe. Put some music on to drown him out and give yourself time to calm down. That way you won't do anything that would inadvertantly hurt him or yourself.
Healthgal, try playing with her stop putting her down after she eats. you want her to go to sleep on here own. THEN PLAY WITH HER MAKE HER LAUGH, play with her make here tired
HI! I was just wondering if you ever come up with a solution to your sons sleeping problem? I am in the same boat right now, just about exactly as what you posted about your son. I think I might go a little nuts soon if I don't get some sleep. I am convinced that my son only sleeps out of pure exhaustion. He'll go to sleep around 8pm and sleep for maybe three hours; then the rest of the night it's at least every hour if not every half hour. And he doesnt just wake up, he wakes up screaming!!!! Same scenerio during the day. He is breastfed and we found out around 5 months that he has a milk protein intolerance, but I have cut out just about ALL dairy. I don't know what to do, he's just seems so miserable; almost like something is making him so uncomfortable that he just can't sleep. If you have any insight I would soooo appreciate it.
Are you sure he is not suffering from reflux? Sour burps or spitting up, arching back when crying? Also try the formula Alimentum...expensive but it is made to be broken down and digested easily for tummy trouble, Poor you!!!
HI...I saw your post and realize it was a year ago. How did your baby end up doing? I'd love some encouragement that my 8 month old may out grow this?! Thank you! Amanda
Iam having the same problem with my 8month old son to he hasnt slept a complete night thru and me and daddy are getting a little upset. Like every1 else we have a set routine for him at night before bed he has slept in his own room and bed since he was 3 months old. He only takes an 1 hour nap during the day he is up and ready to play at 5:00am everyday. Im so exaghusted its like we still have a new born and too make things worse we are expecting our daughter in 3 months also and I dont think I can handle not having at least 2 hours of sleep.
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP
im not getting much sleep either, my baby is 4 and half months old, and he wakes during the night from 1- 3hourly aswell, but i think he is gassy..... he TRYS to sleep but it wakes him up, sometimes he'll scream other times he just wakes up pushing ... legs flying in all directions.... i dont know what i can do..... because once it wakes him he'll be awake for a good hour, and wakes my husband up too, who works at 5am in the morning!!!! we can't put him in his own room untill we get a ventilation system in... VERY DAMP!!!
i usually put him in with us to go to sleep, because don't want him waking my husband, he seems to like that, but don't want that to be the solution, so i have started to leave him in his bed if he isn't upset and let him kick around and chat to himself and ADVENTUALLY he tyrers out, but i get up and turn him on his side when i see him get tired and he drops off pritty fast after that, but wakes again 2hours after that
plus i don't want him getting into bad habits
what my husband just pointed out as we were reading through this is that with everyone having so many similar problems... maybe we all jsut have to stick it out. maybe it is normal at this age?
Hi, I have a 3 year old and and 8 month old (daughters) and I have come to learn with many years of raising my younger brother and sisters; plus my mother comes from a family of 13; so my grandmother and mother has alot of good advice needless to say. The most effective way to get your baby to sleep longer and better is a regular bath; every night. They don't need to be long baths; they can be very short. Right after a bath I then feed her some pablem and then put her in her swing with her bottle. She is then out for the night and might wake up once or twice (which is very normal at this age). Full night sleeps won't happen till about 1 year of age. When he does scream or wake, turn him on his side and wrap the blankets close and pat his back or side; they like the feeling that you are close by. I know its very tiring to do this but it gets them use to being comforted to sleep completely on their own. Hope this helps!
I just have one question....I can aggree with you about everything, but I am concerned because my son, who just turned 8 mths. is now all over his crib...so I am terrified to use a blanket because he has had it over his face and am afraid he will smother himself..any suggesstions? I am now doubling up his PJ's and using a space heater (don't like the heater idea). I was thinking maybe a croucqued blanket? At least it has holes so he can breathe if he does put it over his face?
Hi my son is 8 months and also started doing this,he was waking upto 5 times a night sometimes in awkward positions he had got himself into (legs stuck through crib).A friend recommended i put him in a sleeping bag/grow bag to see if it secures him more,i did and havent looked back,it is suitable if they end up sleeping on their side,back or front(my son does all 3!) i have now got 3 different thickness types for depending on if its cold or warmer they keep them nice and snug and you dont have to worry about their little faces,hope this helps good luck. kat
Try and get a Sleep Sack they make them for babies and toddlers just check out the internet for them. I had the same problem with my son pulling the blankets over his face and the sleep sack out my mind at ease. Just check out the different brand and find the right one for your needs I use the Halo brand. And using a humidifier in the winter helps out a ton with keeping those little noses from getting to dry.
Baby sleeping bag - they're great and come in different togs so thicker one for winter: http://www.mothercare.com/Jungle-Family-Snoozie-sleeping-bag/dp/B002HZ1MZI/sr=1-4/qid=1270024354/ref=sr_1_4/280-0378822-4082261?_encoding=UTF8&m=A2LBKNDJ2KZUGQ&n=42764041&mcb=core
I had the same problem with my wife and our son, she was afraid he would smother himself with blankets. our son is in his own cot, when we make up his cot the blankets are folded in half, with the bottom of the blanket tucket all the way under the mattress,the top half comes up on the top of the mattress. we lay him in his cot with his feet as close as possible to the bottom of his cot, then whats left of the blankets are folded on to him up to his armpit level, tucking the sides in as well.
no matter how he moves and wiggles in the night he will never be able to cover his face as most of the blanket is under the mattress which he is laying on. ( and believe me he moves about alot, sometimes his head and feet end up facing the sides of the cot, but when he moves it is always up away from his blankets). and rest assured your 8 month old is now developed enought to unconciously move his face away from anything that makes it hard to breath, the other night our son turned over and fell asleep with his face flat on the mattress, I stood and watched him and after about 15 seconds he turned his head sideways and carried on sleeping happily
I also have an 8 month old who does not sleep well. Unfortunately I had to return to work when he was 5 months old. In order to function, to survive, I sometimes let him sleep on my chest and we both sleep on the sofa. This is a last resort but when I do this we both at least get some sleep and then we can try again the next night. I know many people are against this sort of thing but I know he is safe and at the end of the day, he won't be sleeping on my chest forever! I just keep hoping for the miracle that occurs when he turns one and sleeps through the night soundly!! Of course this probably wouldn't work for you because you are pregnant but what I am saying is do what you have to do to get by - so long as the baby is safe, maybe co sleeping would help?
Please make sure that there are no underlying medical conditions that may be causing your child to wake up frequently before letting him cry it out. My son had infant acid reflux due to a milk protein intollerance and would not sleep for long stretches because of the discomfort it caused him. After that passed with time and help of certain meds at the aprox. age of 9 months, he began to sleep better. Now when he is suffering from a cold, has an ear infection, or is teething, he tends to wake often once again. I find myself questioning my parenting skills when this occurs...but I just have to accept that my baby is a light sleeper and discomforts wake him easily. Right now his molars are poking through his sore little gums and his naps have shortened to 50 minutes. He used to sleep all night, wake in the morning around 7am, and nap for 1 1/2-2 hours in the afternoon. Now, he falls asleep earlier in the evening, only to wake at 4:30- 5am, and then take two 50 minute naps during the day. I just have to be flexible.
The fact that your child sometimes wakes every hour or so at night is alarming, especially since he is in the room with you. I can't believe it is separation anxiety because he is near you. Please go to the doctor and try to rule out other medical conditions before transferring him to another room, letting him cry it out, and expecting him to sleep all night. When my son had a bad cold which caused a double ear infection last month, he would wake often in the night. He was uncomfortable. After he finished taking antibiotics, he was still waking often. I brought him back to the doctor to make sure his ear infections were gone. The doctor reassured me that his ears looked great and that he had no other symptoms of illness. I decided to let him cry that night for 5 minutes each time he woke up before going in to resettle him. Then I would leave. This went on for 20 minutes until he fell asleep. It was hard but the next night, when he awoke, he would cry for 1 minute at a time and then go to sleep on his own. I am not sure if this will work for you since he sleeps in your room. After you go to the doctor to make sure everything is allright, then you can decide if you are ready to transfer him to his own room. Take small steps and don't expect miracles. You will need to comfort him often when he first moves to his own room and gradually make him feel safe there. Best of luck to you!
hi, what medication was your little one on for reflux? how did you come to discover that he had a milk protein allergy? Im sure my lo has both but gp not helpful x
My son was on zantac and prevacid. He had a sensitivity or intollerance to the milk protein, not an allergy (no blood in the stool). I knew this because of the excessive gassiness, projectile vomitting, and eventually the pain during feeding caused by acid reflux (which happens when the milk proteins cannot digest properly and the stomach gets bloated and then milk goes up the esophogus because there is no more room in the bloated belly). I switched my son to Alimentum and saw improvements. It takes up to 2 months to see full improvements because the milk proteins stay in their systems for a long time. Alimentum is a hypoallergenic formula where the milk proteins are already broken down so their tummies don't have to struggle to do the work.
By the way, CIO DID NOT work for us. Once he felt some discomfort, he was crying again and I could not let him cry if I wasn't sure if he felt pain or not. Never again would I do it and I would never recommend it. My son is now 2 and I have a baby 5 months old. They grow up so fast...I never thought I would say as there were some days I thought I would not survive the sleep deprivation. Now my advice would be---do WHATEVER it takes to make your baby happy. Sleeping with your baby is not a bad thing, it is wonderful. Not all babies need/like to cosleep. Or they may go through stages when they need you more/less. Go with the flow! You will be rewarded in the end with a happy, sensitive child. BABY'S SLEEP IS MORE ABOUT TEMPERMENT THAN PARENTING SKILLS. My second is much easier, and she also has milk sensitivity. She is just a more easy going baby that sleeps better. Also, I switched her milk much sooner. Hope this helps!
Well put! Eventually you do learn to go with the flow, and what sacrifices we pay now will only benefit our children in the future. At first you try to look for the answers until you finally learn that there is no answer. You do what you have to no matter how painful or tiring it is. It is about our little angels, our futures, our everythings. I personally could not stomach the thought of leaving my daughter in a dark room alone and helpless to "cry it out." It feels completely unnatural to me, and i would rather her feel that i am there for her when things become firghtening. We are their heroes!
Thanks thats really helpfull. How did you find out that your son had a milk protein sensitivity?
I have switched my lo on to lactose free cows milk as he is now one, does'nt seem to have made much difference, thought it would of been easier for him to digest. His reflux is still bad though, he cries every time he brings up wind.
Do you feel that zantac did much? I have some but am a bit reluctant to give it. However after last night I am willing to try anything!!
I was just wondering how you found out that your son had a sensitivity or intollerance to the milk protein. My son is 5 months and has horrible reflux. We have went through blood work, Upper GI, Endoscopy and a Sigmoidoscopy. They said that he doesn't have any allergies because they did not show up in the biopsies. He is on 7.5 mg of prevacid three times a day. He was also on zantac at one time but just throws it up right away. He wakes up every 30 minutes at night and really won't nap during the day. I am considering switching him to a more broken down formula called neocate. I have kept on the GI specialist and I swear I am not getting anywhere at all! It's ridiculous!I am not sure how much more of this that I can handle!!!!
Agree 100% with this, it's important to rule out medical problems when trying to help your baby sleep and waking every 1-3 hours is something to look at closely in a baby of 8 months of age...
hi my baby is 8 months old & he has severe reflux. he was put on a regular medication (Ranimed) for babies with reflux since he was 20 days old, but I noticed that it wasn't helping him & he kept crying & screaming all night from the acid in his stomach, so I asked his doctor for another solution. Now, he is still on meds & was switched to Motilium (for the vomitting--3 times a day, 15-20 min before his meals) & Nexium 20 mg (half a pill once a day--morning before his meal). This was the best solution & helped him a lot! I recommend the nexium to any mother whose baby has severe reflux. I hope this helps.. Good luck!
although, his reflux was sorted out...my son DOES NOT SLEEP! He takes 3-- 30 minute naps a day & wakes up every hour of the night all night long! This is really tiring, and I don't know what to do. His crib is in our room & when I put him in his crib, I realize that he wakes up more than when I put him beside me in my bed. He still wakes up during the night, but not as often. I asked the doctor & she told me that some babies just don't sleep as much as others... is there no other solution to this? I will not do the CIO because since he has reflux, it's worse for him to cry because the acidity will get worse when he does....I've tried bathing him before bed & everything else, nothing works! HELP!
I forgot to also mention that I don't breast feed & he was put on special formula for babies with Reflux (Novalac AR) since he was diagnosed with it. He also wakes up every hour or 2 of the night to eat....
My son also had the same problems, it was like reading a book about him reading your response. He was really fussy since birth, I thought he was collicy because it ran in his dads family. They eventually switched him to that alimentum and he takes previcid. It works wonders!!! They tried switching him to regular formula again at 6 monthes and it started again. He does not have blood in his stool either. We switched him back and much better. He just had ear infection and started waking up all the time. And now wants to sleep with me all the time. I lay him in bed he goes back to sleep, when he wakes and realizes he's not in bed with me he cries. I can't just let him cry because he won't go back to sleep. my house is small and he wakes everyone up. I'm stuck getting him and laying him with me. Becoming a habbit now, i don't know what to do.
There aren't many difinitive tests for allergies or sensitivities at this age.. its trial & error. I have a very similar story. My son was on prevacid 15mg 2x a day, zantac did nothing.. we tried allimentum, nutramigen, you name it. Hi is now on NEOCATE.. it is insanely expensive, but worth it! He is almost 8 months old and is now getting up to 5 hours of sleep at night, and down to just once dose of prevacid a day. It's the first time in his life that he doesn't have gi cramping and discomfort. There is NO milk at all in neocate. you can get a coupon for $25 off, and they have discount through dec 11th. Ask your GI for some samples.. ours got us 4 cans.. enough to make an informed decision before spending the cash. If you are breastfeeding, do the elimination diet (turkey, squash, rice, potatos and pears), then slowly add foods... just make sure you eat enough for your milk supply will drop significantly.
Good luck.. let me know if you have questions.
I dont know how much i can handle either!! My daughter just turned 8mths and doesnt sleep. At night she wakes up every 30 mins-1hr. All night long. Daytime, she barely takes 2 naps that never last longer than 30 mins. I have tried EVERYTHING to get her to sleep longer (or to just sleep at all!!)!!!! This includes every book i could find on baby sleep. She has been to CHOP (childrens hospital of philadelphia) more times than i can count seeing specialists. The last GI dr suggested that i starve her for 2 days and then have her admitted through the er to start her on neocate claiming she was allergic to breastmilk. I havent been back to that dr. The neocate has made no difference though in anything--its actually made her more gassy than breastmilk. Zantac and prevacid made no difference either. She still doesnt sleep. Next on the list is a sleep-study at CHOP suggested by the last neurologist she saw to rule out seizures and other sleep issues. Maybe this will tell me something....... Does anyone else have any suggestions???
I'm about to lose it as well. My son just turned 9 months today and still wakes up every 1 to 2 hours and naps for 30mins all day long. I've tried everything. He won't even sleep with me! I would give anything for even that. I don't think he has any reflux issues though. I see no signs of it any way. I've tried to let him cry it out but it results in him just being awake for 4 hours and me miserable. I've spent a ton on all kinds of all natural sleep aids and nothing. He even had an allerigic reaction to something he ate and I was so excited because I got to give him benadryl and he still only slept for 3 hours. When he wakes up he just starts yelling for me. He doesn't cry or scream in pain he just yells and then my husband wakes up and then we're both miserable. I'm going to try a holistic pedatrician to see what she says. Maybe she'll have some better tactics for me.
Hi, sorry to hear you are having such a hard time with reflux. I had a very premature baby (24 weeks) who was in hospital for 5 months. He has been home for 3 months now and one of his problems was severe reflux. He has a hypoallergenic forumla called nutramigen we were on neocate to start which is the most broken down you can get but also tastes very bad - you may find your baby will not take this now after having other milk. We also have to use two drugs called domperidon and omeprazol everyday which are given orally and use gaviscon infant, which is powder and is made up with the formula, this thickens the milk in the stomach so it does not come up and burn which causes the pain, it has been a godsend, eventually we will not use any of these and are slowly weaning him off the drugs. Reflux does get better with age and once they start eating solids, they will outgrow it usually by 1 year. Also, make sure your baby sleeps slightly upright/tilted, put something underneath their matress so their head is higher up on a slope, this helps so much. We have now managed to get him in a cot without the tilt but it was a godsend in hospital and the first 3 months at home.
Hi, sorry to hear you are having such a hard time with reflux. I had a very premature baby (24 weeks) who was in hospital for 5 months. He has been home for 3 months now and one of his problems was severe reflux. He has a hypoallergenic forumla called nutramigen we were on neocate to start which is the most broken down you can get but also tastes very bad - you may find your baby will not take this now after having other milk. We also have to use two drugs called domperidon and omeprazol everyday which are given orally and use gaviscon infant, which is powder and is made up with the formula, this thickens the milk in the stomach so it does not come up and burn which causes the pain, it has been a godsend, eventually we will not use any of these and are slowly weaning him off the drugs. Reflux does get better with age and once they start eating solids, they will outgrow it usually by 1 year. Also, make sure your baby sleeps slightly upright/tilted, put something underneath their matress so their head is higher up on a slope, this helps so much. We have now managed to get him in a cot without the tilt but it was a godsend in hospital and the first 3 months at home. I would go to your doctor and ask them to look into the reflux, if it is a severe case drugs can help and are most definitely required. Good luck.
This sounds just like my son and I'm at my wits end! He slept really well until he was about 2 months old and it's been down hill since then. He only take 15-30 minute naps and wakes up 6-10 times a night and wants to be held and bounced back to sleep, then he's up again in an hour. I don't want to let him cry it out in the event something is bothering him. It seems like he's woken up by something, not just waking up. He wakes up just as much if he's sleeping with me. The only way he'll go back to sleep is either nursing or walking around bouncing him. I know he's sleep deprived as I am, but hate the whole CIO idea. How do I know if he's just waking up out of habit or if something is really wrong?
hi my son is 10 months old he does not sleep he wakes up every hour crying with his eyes shut..i dont think he is doing this just out of habit i think something must be wrong no sign of teeth coming through or swollen gums..i have reflux and my doctor prescribed me with nexium..i took my baby to the doctors and he said he could not give him any tablets because i said it is wind..he sed my baby is to young for nexium or any kind of tablet he told me to use herbal tea to get his wind up!! do u think a peditrition could help me?
We are in a very similiar situation as you, Have GI, tests done, etc. We are now close to month 8, so maybe a month behind. Any luck with remedies? We have done all the home items, dark room, white noise, etc. Still nothing working. It would be great to hear if you have learned anything that has helped.
My son had blood in his stool when we found out that he was allergic to the cow's milk protien. We put him on Allimentum, which if they are only allergic or sensitive to the cow's milk protien, Allimentum is a costly way to go. So we switched to Similac Isomil Advance (soy, red and white bottle) and we use ready feed now. After being on the Allimentum for so long, the powdered soy just constipated him...I am going to assume because I didn't make it right, but the ready feed soy is great. He isn't consitipated, no more gas, no more reflux! Nothing...but a happy baby! Now I would consider taking everything out your baby's diet has any milk in it. Sensitive or allergy to me means the same. Allimentum is more for all allergies like seafood, nuts, milk, etc. Soy works around just the cow's milk protien. So If nothing else is working, and you're baby doesn't have any other allergies, give the ready feed soy a try. But give a month or so to work. The cows milk protien takes awhile to get out of baby's system. Hope this helps! :-)
What you've just described is my little guy to a "T". Slept well until two months, a progression of worsening sleep times, shortening naps, the need to be bounced to sleep, and the awakening in an hour.
We took our son to the urgent care one night because the not sleeping when laid down progressed to screaming no matter what we did. The doctor basically told me that I just needed to be a better mother and read the baby's signs better. He was obviously no help.
Please let me know if you've found something wrong medically, or some method that helps him to sleep through more than one sleep cycle at a time.
Hi, My baby screamed none stop for the first 2months and then he had constant diarrea. The doc said he had colic because of hes age. However we took him to hospital and they sent us home with an infant formula called called 'pepti junior' made by cow and gate. This was a lactose free formula but still had cows milk in it, this didnt make a difference and he screamed even worse that night. We took him back down the hospital the next day and they admitted him. They decided to move him onto a formula called 'lcp neocate' this had not been anywhere near a cow. The next morning he passed a formed stool and was sent home. Therefore you mite want to see docs to see if he/she has this intollerance.
My son is on Neocate also. Is your baby eating solids? because mine wont eat a thing. I have been told that this formula fills them up so he may not want to eat food?
I agree with you on the fact that I would rather have my son know I'm right next to him.Yes,he too wakes up every couple of hrs at night so he's up 6 or 8 or even more times in a night.I make him sleep with me in bed and I assure you he doesn't wake up because of me or my husband as we are very still sleepers.I don't think there is much we can do about it.I don't agree with the cry it out method so that's out of the window.No offense,but I think it's for lazy parents.I'm just relieved that there are others like me out there who are going through the same problem.
Your baby is hungry and scared. It is normal for babies to wake up this many times at night to feed and get reassured that you are there. Most of the world mothers sleep with their babies and that solves the problem. The baby breastfeeds and goes back to sleep and no one has to get up. You may choose to do that. Either way, when he cries, feed him and touch him so he knows you are there. He is scared and hungry. He needs you. He will feed and go back to sleep. He is crying for milk and touch and closeness. These are real needs that must be met.
Not responding to your baby's real need to feed and be held is very harmful to him. I think once you realize that your baby's need is real, you will respond rather than refuse to care for him. He is not supposed to sleep through the night for the first year or even two. Trust him. He needs you. Babies get very hungry at night because that's when they grow. Once you respond to his need, you will get more sleep because it takes much longer to cry than to feed and cuddle. Also, he wakes up again because he is still hungry.
My daughter is 7 month old.She also wakes up every 2 hours.I feed her every time.I know its really difficult to wake up every time.But thats only for some time,they grow up very fast.Donot put them in some other room.Let them sleep in your room but in their own crib.Never co sleep with the baby.They will just suck milk and want breast in their mouth all the time.It becomes habit for them.After that they will not sleep by their own. Since they are growing very fast they really get very hungry at night.If you let him cry he will cry more and sleeps when he is really exahusted.He gets hungry again and gets up again in a hour.All the parents have some problems or other.Parenting is the toughest job in the world.But everthing is forgotten when we see cute smiling face of baby.
It is not true that babies who sleep with their mothers don't learn to sleep by themselves. The opposite, they are so secure and content that they grow up free of sleep issue and sound sleepers. If it was true than the whole world would be afflicted with this problem because separate sleeping in new in history and only in the west. Most of the world co-sleep and children grow up able to sleep anywhere.
In co-sleeping the baby will breastfeed as much as she needs. If not in the same bed, she will actually not get enough and not wake up enough. Waking up protects the baby from apnea (stopping to breath) and secures sufficient feeding for growth.
Parenting is not about finding ways to make it easier for ourselves, but about meeting the baby and child's needs optimally. No stage of development stays out of habit. They breastfeed but they learn to eat. They co-sleep but they learn to sleep by themselves. They lay in our arms but they do learn to walk, they cry but they do learn to talk. Don't be afraid of the baby being a baby. They grow up on their own.
Naomi Aldort Ph.D. Author Raising Our Children, Raising Ourselves.
I agree with you - I have a one year old son and he's still breastfeeding and still co-sleeping and we love it. However, he wakes up crying out and screaming with tears. He has stopped nursing as much during the night. When I go in to comfort him, he doesn't want to nurse. Even when he wakes after my husband and I have went to bed, he still screams.
I'm at a loss b/c I thought co-sleeping would help this not to be a problem since we are right there with him and he has touch and closeness with us all night. And I'm even more at a loss b/c nursing doesn't calm him like it once did :( I feel that if he was actually hungry he would eat as he did every night from 6-10 months (once he became very aware of the outside world!)
I really wish I could find a reason for his wakings (about every 2 hours)
It sounds like your baby has a different reason to wake up. I would love to help you, but I don't have enough information. The key is to find out what is bothering him. He might be experiencing scary dreams, or he might experience pain, teething, or he may want to go to the bathroom (I am serious). Try to figure it out. If you cannot, you can find information on my site about talking to me on the phone.
Naomi Aldort, Ph.D.
could be wind because they are feeding and sleeping they are not getting their wind up so it lays on their tummy
my son has slept with me since day one and has slept thru the night from 10 weeks old. he was breast feed until 13months old and is now nearly three and has had no sleeping problems and still sleeps with me and I wouldn't change it for the world. We have spoken about him sleeping in his own bed and I know he will when he is ready and I will miss him
I believe there is no right or wrong just what works best for you and your baby and family and they are only small for a tiny period of time so enjoy every moment of it the frustrating times and the good times
I thinks its perfect and sooo natural explanation..I m very agree with that..I have 3 yo daughter who was breast feed till 20months old, last three month i even fed her been pregnant with my second child..Even doctors told me to stop breastfeeding..So she wanted to breastfeed every night once or twice till 20 months old and than she just stoped !!! I m not sure why but she refused breast (some friends say milk chage taste when woman is pregnant) but she start to sleep all night and didnt wake up for feeds..And now i have 9 months old son who wakes up nearly every 2,5-3hrs for feed and i give it to him..Even i m so tired and sleep deprived i belive that if baby waes up he needs you and it wont be hapenning till he go to graduation night !!! lol it will stop eventualy, in right time for your baby..Yeh i m agree u have to be sure that you baby is not in pain or sufer from some discomfort..Mothers, i just want to tell you one thing...One day our kids grow up and wont need us as they need us now, and it will be very hard to realised that they dont need us much as before..So enjoy your time as "unreplacable" person in the world...U will missed that time later on..Sorry if mu comments offend anybody, but its just my feelings and thoughts..And another important thing, follow a good routine !!!
you post an interesting and I would said a diff view here thats why I would like to ask more. My DD is 16 months and start from half a year ago, she goes to bed at 7:30 and wakes at 9:30, 12:30, 2:30, 4 or 5 then totally awake at 6. She's totally underweight, lowest 5% since she's not a good eater. I still breastfed her, day and nite. I tolerated her night waking all these time since I want her to have more milk. But recently she's been getting better with her solid so I really would like to have a good nite sleep.One thing I notice, she is eating quite well on solid now but she's still a tiny baby. Gaining a bit of weight but still on lowest curve of the chart. I guess I need to accept that it is her DNA.
I co-sleep with her. What interesting is everytime she wakes up crying, I will nurse her and she'll go right back to sleep. Sometimes she's too tired, she suck very little and struggle so I put her down but she won't be able to sleep until I pick her up and nurse until she refuse the breast. I guess thats when she really feels full. But I'm starting to think how can she possibly be so hungry at nite and need so many feedings... Help!!
Parenting is.........about meeting the baby and child's needs optimally. Of course, this goes without saying.
Lovely thought Dr Ph.D, full agreement there, but when a mum or dad is physically and mentally exhausted, hasn't slept more than an hour at a time for months their ability to meet the child's needs optimally is compromised anyway. Why do you make parents who are struggling to do their best to care for their child feel guilty that they are simply "trying to make it easier for them selves" when all they are really trying to do is find a sustainable solution. When parents are well rested they can care for their children optimally. Cry it out solutions were not for me and are not for everyone but all families are different and all parents want to meet their children's needs optimally. Just as sometimes it is necessary to tell a toddler "no" to meet his need optimally maybe sometimes some parents need to make tough decisions re their babies sleep. Parents don;t need anyone else laying a guilt trip on them. How many children do you have Dr Ph.D???
Be sure your milk is rich and flowing. Eat a healthy diet rich in protein. But, even once she eats solids, waking up a lot to nurse at night is natural and good. They grow at night and get very hungry. Waking up often also keeps them safe from apnea. Enjoy while it lasts. It all passes very fast.
Through trial and error, I have learned that cutting out naps and forcing kids to stay up later does NOT aid in deeper sleep, it makes them over tired, and it's much harder to settle them once they get that second wind from being over tired. I disagree with the users who have told you to give your child less nap time. There is a really great book that helped us a lot, Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child, it is really great, I love Dr Weissbluth's methods. He gives you outlines for letting your baby cry it out, or if you want to soothe them and not let them cry.
I recommend your baby being put in his own room at night. Once babies are a bit older, they become more aware of sounds especially your sleeping sounds and presence in the room at night, and it wakes them up. If you don't have 2 rooms, maybe you can wheel his crib out of your room when you are ready to go to bed, and just have the living room darkened. It really makes a difference having them in their own room. Also, try white noise, a fan on low, or a c.d. with white noise effects, it helps soothe.
If a nap is dropped naturally, it will be the morning nap, because the child is getting more sleep at night, and therefore is not worn out or tired until the afternoon. If your child normally takes three naps per day, then dropping the third nap, and moving the bedtime earlier may help, but don't cut out the afternoon nap, all you will get is an over tired baby.
This advice is spot on. Sleep begets sleep. An overtired child is much more difficult to get to nap or to sleep through the night than a child that is getting the appropriate amount of sleep. I also recommend the book Healthy sleep, Happy child...It should add happy parents. My eight month old is a mostly good sleeper. We have recently had some nighttime sleep issues with him waking two to three times at night, but he has had a cough and is teething, so I hope this passes soon. But DO NOT cut out a nap instead try putting him/her to bed earlier (with a bedtime routine) and down for naps just before he starts rubbing eyes/fussing/crying. Usually every hour and a half to two hours. Again, the previous emailer is right about dropping the MORNING nap first not the afternoon nap but this comes later...after they sleep through the night 12+ hours.
My son does the exact same thing. He is 8 months old now. When he was 3 months old we learned he had a milk and soy protein allergy (called colitis). We knew b/c we saw small amounts of blood in his stool. So mom had to cut out milk and soy from her diet b/c she was breastfeeding. It took 2 months to get his stools back to normal. However, acid reflux is extremely common in allergic babies. When they lay down, the acid creeps up their throat and esophogus and starts to hurt and wakes them. Sitting upright makes it feel better. Nursing or feeding makes it feel better, and even a binkie, because it pushes the acid back down due to swallowing. Now he's on prevacid and zantac which seems to help a bit. Last night he woke every 1.5 hours wanting to nurse and would go back to sleep nursing. I know it's frustrating. I haven't slept more than 3 or 4 hours at a time since I was 7 months pregnant.
oohh god... that sound sooooooo like my son!
he is on hyper allegic formula too (soy and milk protein allergie). he is also on acid pills for his stomach. We tilted his bed, i feed him every 4 hours at night (with even cerial in his bottle) and he still wakes up every hour. And he always has....
well even in his own room, he is not sleeping more than 2.5 hours at a strech!!!!
i tried the cio method. it did not work for me eighter.... or my son... or my husband.
but you know what.... he was already so busy in my belly....
i was reading soooo many books and internet blogs... forget it....
i still think there is something else wrong with him. i really think he has a sleep disorder and just cant sleep (busy mind?!?!)
So, i feel you.. i also tried everything possible.... hang in there.. there is always a light on the end of the tunnle (well, you will get there sooner or later).
I am hoping too....
Wow I feel like you, and many others, have described what I have been through. My son is now 21 months old and he has not slept through the night ever. At first he was treated for acid reflux but it did not seem to do a thing first on zantac then prevacid. When he turned 1 and I was able to switch him to cow milk that is when things hit rock bottom he would wake up to eat every hour and nothing else would soothe him. we did try the cio method and all it did was make him really upset and hyperventilate and sometimes even throw up. I think it was just a terrible idea. So a doctor finallly paid some attention to me and sent me to a GI specialist where he was diagnosed with milk and soy allergy,and recommeded starting him on a formula called EO28 splash, that was a nightmare on its own because he stopped eating completely after that. He wanted nothing to do with food and was still waking up every 2 to 3 hours. The situation got worse and I decided to seek a second opinion and switched GI doctor. now they said he is clear from his allergy and his appetite has been great since taken off the EO28 formula, but the night sleep has gotten worse to where he now wakes up every hour or before... he is very restless and all he wants to do is have something to drink. The doctors tell me that this is a phase and that I need to be rough on him but what more can I possibly due that I haven't done. It is very frustrating for both the parent and the baby and sometimes I don't know how I make it through the day. I am pregnant with number 2 due in 3 months and I am just trying to be patient and got with the flow
omg me too!!! My son is 8 months old....nooooo sleep. He falls asleep just fine around 8-830...He gets cerial, bath bottle then bed he sleeps for like 2 hours and is up crying! I tried the CI...O yeah right how the heck long do you let them scream?! I am waiting for DHS to come to my house the way he screams. so he will sleep until like 2am then he is up and in bed with me or my husband...he is so restless kicks smacks pinches me alllll night. now he is teething but i give him tylenol and motrin and it doesnt work...now what someone told me about melatonin. It is natural so is it bad for him? i hate to go to the doctor if he isnt really sick? He is such a happy baby all day its just bed time. e sleeps but like i said he is so restless. when he was 4 months i tried the alimentum and it made no difference so i went to target (sensative) and it seems just fine. he doesnt thow up or have gas. and those are signs of refux right? so what is the problem...my ped thinks i am crazy he said ohh he is teething and to just do pain management tylenol-motirn...it cant be good for him helllpppppp meeeeee! I work full time and am goin crazy
I am an avid reader and I am always reading at least two or three books at a time. But sometimes information isn't enough. Especially with infants. Try listening to your instincts. If it's to close to home, have you thought about trying homoeopathy? I have used it on all my four, and remember, placebo doesn't effect babys!!
Placebo effect doesn´t apply to babies but it does to parents. There is NO scientific evidence in support of homepathy - I hate to see people scammed and all evidence suggests that homeopathy is a big one. Please do not go down this fruitless path and line the pockets of such fraudsters (homeopaths) with your hard earned money. I also have an 8 month old who does not sleep well so I empathise with all the posters here. I just wish that there was more scientific research into causes and treatments of infant problems such as colic, reflux and gas as these are very traumatic for parents... especially when they have to go to work after a sleepless night!! MORE SCIENCE PLEASE!!
When my son was a baby, born 18yr ago today!, one of the older radiology techs I worked with, ask me if he was sleeping all night. He wasn't, so she told me that is because the formula is not satisfying him and he is hungery, add rice ceral to his bedtime bottle, start with 2-3 huge spoonfuls, add more if he starts waking up during the night again. Well, it worked, but you will have to make the nipple hole a little larger, because of course it is thicker. It is also working for my grandson, I have kept him on week-ends since he was 4mo., old. I would buy the Gerber whole grain, shake really well, then when he was around 6 mo. old I started buying different flavors-apple, fruit & yogurt, child would sleep 10-11 hours every night. Good luck and hope this old fashion trick will work for you.
My son is 6 months old and also waking in the night twice for feeding. No amount of comforting, soother etc will settle him other than is bottle. He had terrible colic at the beginning and I took him to a cranio-sacral therapist who also did Amatsu therapy. He has been a few times over the months and she is a miracle worker! She also does body testing and it showed that he was lactose intolerant. Most intolerances wont show up in the normal tests as they are not allergies. worth seeing someone like that if there is near you.
My son is 8 months old...i have had the same problem since he was born.I am breastfeeding and when he was first born i was supposed to feed him every 2-3 hours..he picked up the habit and just kept waking up.Finally last month i had enough of sleep deprivation and called my pediatrician...she told me to feed him one last time at his bed time...which is 8 and when he wakes up crying just to ignore him.His crib is in our bedroom and the first few nights it was really hard to ignore his cries but it`s been about 3 weeks now and he sleeps through the night and is much happier during the day.The pediatrician told me that some babies just have the habit of waking up even though they don`t need anything....i would suggest what she told me which is do not talk to him..stroke him...just let him cry it out.:)
The fact that your baby now sleeps through the night is not a proof that it is what he needs. Babies are smart. He learned that he cannot get what he wants and needs. He gave up. He resigned. This has a huge impact on his character and outlook on life. Learning to give up what he wants is not a prescription for success.
I know your pediatrician meant well. It is the old fashion view of "training" babies to surrender to parental dictates. But, more modern and compassionate views prove that training babies out of their will is not good for them. In natural societies letting babies cry and ignoring them is unheard of and would be considered extreme cruelty. Yet western society has adopted this approach in spite of natural motherly feelings and in spite of much proof to the emotional harm it does to the child.
Babies do need to wake up and breastfeed at night and to sleep with their mothers. There is no need to train them out of it by ignoring their heart breaking cries. There is no need to teach them that their cries are useless. It hurts so much. I know you love your baby and want the best for him. The best solution to sleep issues is to sleep with your baby. They cry and they wake up because of being left alone. Your baby gave up on getting what is right for him. He surrendered. He will get sufficient sleep if he sleeps with you and if he breastfeeds on by the clock but by his own hunger. This way he learns to be independent, to trust his own body and to trust you.
Listen to your own intuition. Your heart is right. Your baby is right. If he cried, it meant it was not good for him. Trust him. Trust yourself.
Naomi Aldort Ph.D. Parenting therapist and author.
Hi, My son is 10 mths and he can outlast us all. I have tried the crying tactic, and it lasted 2 1/2 hrs...straight. I am breastfeeding and co sleeping,the latter not of my choice. He will awaken as soon as someone puts him down it is absolutely frustrating and frankly depilitating. I have to hold him, not just sleep with him, but, hold him while he sleeps or no one sleeps. He was a preemie but, has definitely caught up, weighing over 26 pounds. He is very, very pleasant and happy until bedtime and then he changes. Oh, and I am a single parent so, sleep is a necessity not a luxury. Any help is appreciated.
I love what you have to say Naomi! It is so refreshing because I share in this viewpoint. The problem is that my husband does not! He wants him out of the bed! He thinks babies "just cry for no reason" and I believe the opposite. I believe they cry cause this is the only language they know and that he is telling me he needs/wants something. Do you have any advice on how to get my husband and I on the same page? Oh and by "on the same page" I mean my page((; I read him what you wrote and he says "that's just one point of view" and I told him..she is the only one on this feed with a Phd and an author! I thought this would convince him seeing that he is a dissertation short of his Phd((; Okay well I am begining to ramble! Please...any advice would be helpful.
Thank goodness you said all of that so I don't have to. Thanks. Can you give everyone an alternative solution though please. Like "the No cry Sleep solution," by Elizabeth Pantley.
I would love to assist you with your husband. I am careful not to mention my services here as not to advertise my work. I am only trying to add professional view and support the community. But, just briefly, you can get time with me on the phone and the information is on my site.
Meanwhile, and if you cannot speak to me, tell your husband that sleeping with the young is the norm in most of the world and in the west until only a couple of hundred years ago. His is only an opinion based on nothing but limited and personal experience. The new western trend of separate sleeping is proving good for the industry and bad for children..
Try to understand your husband. He was probably raised with denial to his own feelings. When he cried, he did not always get the response he needed. These unconscious memories can be so painful that now when your baby cries he cannot feel anything and so he believes the lie that babies cry for nothing. This is a healthy defense mechanism.
It would be painful to feel the pain of your baby. It would mean admitting his own pain as a child.
In terms of science and nature, nothing occurs for nothing. No human cries for nothing least of all babies. The new idea of sleeping separate from our babies is only a couple of hundred years old and only in the west. The results are the most emotionally unhealthy people, neurotic sleepers who need pills to sleep, unhappy, depressed, unable to connect and, the most violent society. It is not a good experiment.
If your husband is not moved to respond to a crying baby, then the one who is, should care for the baby and that’s you. We, humans, are designed to be moved by the crying of a baby. Our survival depends on it.
This leads to my last piece of advice: You don’t need to be on the same page with your husband. Your are the mother, you spend the time breastfeeding, you gave birth, you spend you days with your child and you read, study, listen and ask questions. It is up to you. But, your husband will be more accommodating when he gets more sex. So try to understand his emotional limitations but also his needs. He will be happier and then, you don’t need his agreement. Mother knows.
There is no problem that needs a solution. Babies should not sleep through the night. The baby wakes up because she needs to for her safety, well being and growth. Sleep with the baby and fall in love with waking up a few times per night.
It all passes too soon.
This behavior is normal, but some babies can develop sleeping disorders that can be very serious. Humans of all ages need sleep to grow and regenerate, and babies especially need their sleep normally.
It is normal for 8 month old babies to wake up this many times at night to feed and get reassured that you are there. Goodluck for you and you baby..
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Im the original author of this note. My son is now 14 months old and sleeps wonderfully through the night. It started when he was about 11 months old.
My routine to get him to that point was awake @ 7-8 am, 2 hour aftn nap 12-1pm till about 2-3 pm, and then bed -time 8-9pm, he sleeps all through till 7-8am the next morning. It's Great!! and my new little girl who is now 8 weeks old, is a very good sleeper, she wakes once through-out the night for a feeding and then right back to sleep. It just took a little time and patience
My son slept thru the night 10pm-7am from 2.5 months to 4.5 months, then started waking every 30 minutes to an hour unless I would feed him, and then would still wake every two hours. I started putting him down to sleep in his own room in his swing so that when he wakes I can go in and gently rock him without picking him up until he drifts back to sleep. He now wakes one time in the night to feed and then sleeps until 8am. This has worked well for our family to be able to get much needed rest. He seems much happier and well rested and I know my husband and I are. There is much controversy over sleeping in a swing I am well aware, but if we all sleep better, I dont see the harm. His swing does not sit upright so he is laid back in his little bowl, all buckled in so he cant plop himself out. Hope this helps. ....a well rested Momma, Daddy and Baby
OMG! Your baby should be taken away from you! You don't feed him in the night when he screams for milk? You leave him crying in the crib when he wants to be cuddled and loved. What kind of parents you? TERRIBLE! God punish me if I ever treated my child like that.
How dare you? You don't know anything about these mums! They're trying their best to cope with a really difficult and exhausting situation. You and people like the 'dr' are not at all interested in helping people. For you it's just about being right. Every mother, every baby, every family is different. If you want to co-sleep, then co-sleep. If it doesn't work for you because it would ruin your partnership and leave you absolutely exhausted in the day time - unable to look after your baby or perform well at work - then don't do it. Being a parent is hard work and a mystery, especially the first time. People come to this site for advise; not to be told that they are terrible parents and that their children ought to be taken away from them.
Babies are meant to have all the attention from their parents BOTH DAY AND NIGHT!! Dont let your baby cry him/herself to sleep! Thats not healthy at all!! Babies need mommy or daddy or both!!! Its not suppose to be easy taking care of a child! One day youre going to miss this, you're gonna have regreats.. you're going to miss baby days and wish you could go back to that one time when they were babies and just hold them and love them because one day they will be grown and out of the house and you will be all alone.. sure they will come and visit ever so often if any... but for now you have this beautiful baby.. enjoy it.. spend as much time as you can with him or her.Sleep with them... Spoil them... but most importantly love and care for them. After all they are our future!! Remember... we are not promised tomorrow! So live for today!
I think its funny when people write in about "Western Civilation" and how its ruined so many kids. Maybe if we had a village (literally) of 10 adults to help us care for each baby we wouldnt have to actually put them down and go to sleep, whether they are crying or not.
Anyway, I feel for you, and the waking, i'm going through it now and have been for the past 8 months. Ours sometimes sleeps from 6/7 - 2 am, maybe 3. Now he wakes up many nights for HOURS. He's just wide awake, at 3 AM. We go in, check on him, sometimes feed him, sometimes dont, we just dont have any idea what works because he reacts differently every single time. There's no rhyme or reason for his sleeping. Same routine, same food, same room, all of it being very condusive to good sleep. First baby was perfect sleeper. This one is a nightmare. I think the thing I've learned is parents and doctors want to have the answers but guess what? Its the baby and his/her brain, the way they are wired. Its their world and we just live in it! Do your best, be logical, and this hurts but....wait it out.
I had issues with my son, who is now 11 months old. I read a lot about it and have come to agree with a sleep expert who said babies need to sleep every 3-3 1/2 hours and that putting them to bed later at night does not make them sleep in later in the morning -- they wake up at the same time, regardless. If they get overtired, they will sleep even less...
I feel for you, it's very hard with this situation. I really feel like you should take a look at what he's eating during the day. Is it enough? Is his weight on track? Sounds like you are doing all the right things to help him sleep, with the routines etc. so I would be sure there's not a health issue or real hunger or something else going on. Poor baby, up all night isn't good for him either. :(
Good luck, I hope this helps.
Babies do not need to sleep a certain amount of time and intervals. This is more of our western society being so controlling of the baby. In reality and if you study natural societies where babies rarely cry, each baby has his or her own natural needs. In the west babies sleep much more because they are stressed out by being separated from their mothers and controlled. When being held by mother or father all day long, the baby feels at peace and often sleeps much less than what we are used to. The baby knows what he needs. Not with thoughts, but by instincts. If you hold the baby in a snugly at all times, he will sleep when tired and wake when he needs to.
When keeping the baby with you at night, as all mothers done through history till the last 180 years in the west, he will not only sleep the right amount, but also become independent and self-reliant and trust you to be on his side. Because he learns, "The way I feel (tired, hungry) is right. I can rely on myself.) He will grow up into a well behaving child and a peaceful one. Being controlled about his own body makes the child defiant later on because he sees you as controlling rather than responding to his cues.
It is amazing to see how babies who are always held and slept with, are peaceful, content, and grow up into cooperative children who never need discipline because they do well of their own free will. Trust your heart. Use your motherly intuition. It is right, and what your baby wants is right.
With care, Naomi Aldort Ph.D. Parenting therapist and author.
"Dr" Aldort. Your responses on this topic have been consistantly irrisponsible in the matter of how to get babies to sleep. While I'm sure it must be a rush to be a cruisader in the field of parenting, giving bad advise is not the answer.
1. Of COURSE babies need routine as centuries of tried and true methods revolving around this trueism have proved. We do not live in the jungle or a small 3rd world country where it seems you have pulled all your "success stories" from. In the REAL world where WE all live we are working people who operate by the standard world clock. We need to get up at certain times each day and have a schedule for our children in order to participate in life, not only so WE can function as a SOCIETY, but so that our CHILDREN have an opportunity to find COMFORT in knowing and counting on their daily routine. The idea that we can or SHOULD give the child whatever they want so they don't feel disappointment is laughable. You put too much negative emphasis on a baby learning what IS and is NOT acceptable in the "real world". We DON'T live in the jungle where it is acceptable to behave without thought or regard for rules and mores. Nobody can or should operate their entire life around the needs of a baby. If babies were capable of knowing what they needed we would not be an esential part of their lives for such a long period. They would be able to raise themselves.
2. How utterly irrisponsible of you to suggest that we sleep with our babies when it is the leading cause of SIDS as it leads to SUFFOCATION and should NOT be done. Shame on you for even entertaining that idea, but to PUBLISH it on a public forum is negligent on your part as you should well know, being a "doctor" -I took a moment to look you up on the American Medical Association and you are not registered so it makes me wonder what actually the Phd following your sir name actually stands for-. For you to suggest to people that sleeping with an infant is a GOOD idea is possibly grounds for a law suit when that "medical advise" causes harm or even death to someone's baby.
In summation: In life there are rules to be followed and things we learn as children to do or not do (apparantly you are a product of your own "zen" advise of not having to be accountable for your actions), and hopefully our parents will be instrumental in helping us learn to be participating, functioning members of our REAL world society.
Babies cry. It's a fact of life. A routine is very helpful. A lot of patience is necessary and finding a rythym that works for you and your own baby will come. Don't let the bad advise of someone claiming medical training be your guide. Use your common sense. Contrary to the good "doctor's" advise, just because something FEELS good (having your baby in your bed with you), doesn't mean you should DO it.
Amber Denson CS (that's common sense for you "doctor" Aldort)
mother of 2
living in the REAL world where we have CLOCKS and everything!
I was once where you were in my understanding of how babies should sleep. In my very own pediatrician's office, there are posters encouraging us to "put baby in crib" NEVER sleep with baby, etc. I thought I was doing it all right. Then my baby began suffering from colic, so I began to research and I realized THERE WASN'T JUST ONE WAY!!! I was doing what I knew and what I thought was the right way, but then realized there was a more comforting, nurturing, loving and NATURAL way for babies to sleep which is a more accepted method by moms these days. I recommend reading info by "Dr Sears" at DrSears.com and looking into getting a book of his.
I met a family therapist / friend who is an advocate for cosleeping and is very well researched in the matter who has given me such valuable insight and a new understanding of the benefits of cosleeping. Also, friends around me had been using the cosleeping approach / ATTACHMENT PARENTING (also something good to read on) so I have been able to see the benefits of this style of parenting longterm. A friend of mine's 2 year old son sleeps through the night after having coslept until he was a little over a year. He is very well adjusted, peaceful, happy kid. I cry when I look back and think what could have happened to our son had I followed the older method. The cry out or sleeping alone doesn't show any immediate effects, so everything seems fine, but longterm is where the concern is. You want your baby to trust you and that begins with meeting their needs. RUN to him/her, COMFORT them, help them feel SECURE no matter what time/day. Soon they will be independent enough and will have established an amazing bond and see you as supermom who meets all my needs! I promise, it's worth it for your baby!!! Longterm you will be amazed at the relationship between you and your baby!!! In reading this you are probably thinking I am nuts about the cosleeping and the attachment parenting... I was like that too before babies! I looked at my one friend who slept with her baby and thought she just needed to put that baby in the crib and let him cry till he fell asleep. Then I had trouble with my baby due to colic and I had to try somethign else to get sleep... which is when I stumbled upon another method - a more natural and loving method that I want to share with every mom who has guilt for sleeping with baby, or thinks they have to put baby in crib because it reduces SIDS when cosleeping when done correctly puts baby at less a risk for SIDS. :) I just ask that you be open minded about this! I was and I have been blessed with a baby who TRUSTS me!!! I can't wait to see him grow!!!
Thank you for being an advocate for cosleeping and Attachment parenting. Too many parents are misinformed by their pediatricians and unresearched/uneducated on the matter. I was one of those parents - just didn't know any better. I am grateful for the family therapist in my life who introduced me to a more natural way of parenting. I LOVE being a mom and using this approach!!! It's wonderful. I hope that you too can at least spark curiosity in moms to research and read up on cosleeping and attachment parenting. :)
Thank you again.
MISTAKE in my last post. The site is "AskDrSears.com, NOT Dr.Sears.com :)
I have been browsing through the posts. I have a 7 month old who used to sleep very nicely at night. Wake up just 1 or 2 times, feed from the bottle and go back to sleep instantly. I was so happy. Now he has started waking up every hr. He is 7 months old. I go home in the evening, feed him rice cereal, fruit. Then I bathe him. Almost instantly on finishing bath, he wants to go off to sleep. I barely manage to dress him and then start putting him to bed. I rock him to sleep in my arms (he has got that habit now. I know people say put him down and pat him, but he doesnt go to sleep that way). He sleeps around 8:30, I give him a bottle at that time and then wakes up at 9:30 PM. rock him back to sleep. wakes up again at 10:30 PM, etc. basically I realised if I change his diaper he sleeps for 3 hrs or so, but then changing diaper wakes him up completely so it takes a lot of time putting him back to sleep.
What do I do? Is it ok if I give him only cereal/fruit at night and avoid formula? Will that make him not pee too much at night and hence might be sleep through the night?
I know these days will go fast and I want to enjoy my kid sleeping next to me (I already miss breastfeeding:( ). Please advise.
My wife and I have an eight month old who has been crying every 1-1.5 hour during the night for the past month or so. We have been co-sleeping with the baby since her birth with mattress directly on the ground. We tried following a schedule but, realized that the baby is not consistent everyday and chose to go with the baby's schedule for sleep/nap instead of forcing a schedule on her. The baby is very active during the day and naps for 1-2 hours during day time. We feed her formula and rice cereal. Since the past month or so (since she started teething), she has been regularly waking up during the night and crying loud. She becomes quiet once my wife takes her into the lap and puts her to sleep. My wife and I have been extremely sleep deprived and are desperately in search of solutions. I know that if we consult the doctor for this matter, they will most likely discourage co-sleeping, ask us to let the baby cry out or even suggest a sleep study. Do you have some suggestions for us? We will greatly appreciate your inputs in this regard.
A Caring Father & Husband
If I may respond although you addressed to Naomi. I am the original author of this blog. I have had 2- 8 month old babies since Feb /2008 Both my Babies didn't sleep through the entire night until they were a year old. My 1st boy that i originally wrote about was a somewhat difficult child from the start, we took him to the hospital one night because he seemed so unhappy, and Dr. said he was Colic. What my husband and I did to get through that 1st year, was when he would wake up, we would get up, make him a warm bottle without moving him or turning on any lights, and then give it to him and he would go back to sleep.
He would drink it all, and no longer has that bottle at night and his teeth are fine. My Little girl my most recent Baby, she is 18 months old now, but she has been a very happy Baby from the start, however just started sleeping through the night about 5 months ago... I would do the same thing for her, make her a warm bottle, she would drink it all and go back to sleep. Obviously sounds like they were hungry but I did try the pablum before bed and no bottle, but that didn't work. I think they just woke needing some reassurance and comfort and a nice warm bubba was a great bonus :) It was hard and frustrating, because I was going through the sleep depravation for way to long, but now finally they both sleep through the entire night. My bed time routine with them has not changed since the beginning.. Warm Bath at approx 7pm, pj's, and to bed with a warm 8oz bottle of milk/formula, their pacifier, lights out and quiet. If they woke up, I would quietly go make a bottle give to him/her and they would go back to sleep.
Now they sleep until I wake them at 7am or they wake on their own between 7-8am. They have one aftn nap about 4 hrs after they wake, so around 11-11:30 and usually sleep 2-3 hrs.
Hang in there, she will start sleeping through the night soon :)
Thank you for your elaborate post. Giving a warm bottle is something we've not tried before so, I am glad we have something that can be tried without much ado. Her middle-of-the-night crying doesn't seem to be a hunger-related thing because she doesn't want to drink any formula when she wakes up. Few days back, she began crying even during day time and she becomes quite only if her mother picks her up. We are wondering if it could be separation anxiety too. Usually, she eats and drinks well, doesn't have any ear infection, is very playful, smiles and laughs at strangers and everyone outside calls her happy baby at least once a day. Just makes us wonder what may be the trouble. I greatly appreciate your pitching in with your suggestions.
Wish you well with your two babies!
Naomi, how am I to cook dinner, clean the bathroom toilet and take a shower with my 25 pound infant strapped to me in a snuggly at all times? It's dangerous for one thing to be near the stove with your infant. It's not practicle in real life although I would do it if I could...you really can't and carry on even the minimum of everyday life. In addition I cannot wake up every hour to comfort my child and sleep all of her naps with her. That would be 14 hours of sleeping, given that I'm adult and have to do things like wash her diapers, get groceries and cook her food I need to not be in bed all day to do that. She's not hungry, takes three sips of the boob and goes back to sleep. There must be another solution as I am going back to work in 3 months and I owe it to her to show her how to cope not attached to me every waking hour.
Hi to the original poster and all others in a similar situation. Our son is about 8 months old and does wake up a few times during the night, but we have learned to let him cry for a little bit (usually a few minutes), not overreact, and allow him to soothe himself back to sleep. Feeding him is the WORST thing you can do, because then it only trains him to wake up in the middle of the night for feedings. We used to give him a little bottle when he woke up, but then he would wake up after 4-5 hours like clockwork, expecting formula. So, we decided to let him cry it out one night, and it was painful for him/us that night and the next night, but he learned how to self-soothe, and now he might wake up once a night crying but will go back to sleep if one of us goes in and pats him on the back and says a few words. Also, DO NOT allow your children to sleep in the same room as you are, because then they KNOW that you are only a few feet away and will continue to cry until you attend to them, instead of learning that while you are in the same house, you will not immediately jump to their aid in the middle of the night and thus they can comfort themselves back to sleep.
well he was about 9-10 months old before he started sleeping through the night. I started by only giving him one nap through out the day. Another habit we have gotten into also which I know alot of Parents would frown on is giving him a warm bottle to go to bed with. We do always check on him about 20 minutes after we put him down, and the bottle is finished and not in his mouth affecting his teeth. That will be my next hurdle is trying to eliminate the bottle at bed time. I know this probably wont help you much since your baby is only 5 months and I wish I could recommend something, but it will take time and patience and the months go by pretty fast the first year so try to enjoy them. Good Luck !
my daughter is nine months old, and i did the same thing. Try a hevy dinner before bathtime. Then give your baby their bottle and wait for them to fall sleep. After my daughter finishes her bottle i take it away and have a new one ready just in case she wakes up again. she usually falls right back to sleep.
She didn't really start waking up at night til her teeth started coming in. so often i just rub her gums before bed with medicine, and she's out all night...
Also, we have a one bedroom place right now, and often ill grab my things and go sleep in the living room. Unless she's screaming for me, she usually quits fusing and goes back to bed.
Babies can sense when you're there, so this is something to try, especially if they're fusing with closed eyes. I know thier just doing it for attention.
Oh this is exactly what I am dealing with, except I have done things to make it worse. Like putting him in bed with us, nursing him, picking him up. And now I am at my wits end. My husband works also, and sometimes when my son is up and alert at 4 a.m. I bring him to the couch at least so hubby can sleep. A room of his own would be the beginning of a solution, for sure, all my others began sleeping better when in there own room. I don't have a room of his own. It is what it is for now. And last night he did cry himself to sleep, but he didn't sleep well after and neither did I. He fussed and once in a while cried out or whimpered...Sigh. Something has to change and I amm at that point. I hope you find some peace and restfull sleep you really do need!
hi i have a baby 8 months old,till 8 monts he sleeped once a day,now he want to sleep twice a day,at 6.30pm its bathtime,at 7pm i feed him and he falls asleep,he wake up at 11 pm i give him 4 once milk,he falls asleep,i ve try to not give him milk during the night,but he stay more then 2 hours awake,and i ve seen its imposible to sleep all night,now every night i feed him and he is happy ,he wake up at 7 am ,i think your baby is hungry thats way he wakes up,try to feed him and u can see he will sleep all night good luck
Hi to the original poster. What did you do differently, other than what seems like a more regulated schedule? Please let me know as my 5-month old dd is waking every single hour at night. CIO would never work because she gets in such a frenzy almost the instant she is laid down in her crib (even if in a relatively deep sleep already) and forget ever putting her in the crib while she is drowsy, but awake. I cannot console her just by patting her or stroking her and when I do pick her up to calm her down, it takes sometimes 15 - 30 minutes to calm her down. We have tried everything from zantac to prevacid to gas drops to being careful about her position after breastfeeding to watching my diet to getting on a more rigid schedule (and just following her lead, too) to having her sleep in a carseat/elevated crib/co-sleeping -- and absolutely nothing is working. Any advice is appreciated.
I am writing to you with tears in my eyes as I am in the exact situation as you were 7.5 months ago and would love to know where you're at now! I have a 2 year old who was a bad sleeper ad woke 3-4 hourly for feeds until she reached 10 months. I now have a 5 month old and I may as well have written your post above. He has been an absolute nightmare form the second he was born, such an unsettled baby. Won't even fall asleep in the car, just screams and has done so from birth. He was waking 3-4 hourly from birth, then started waking 3 hourly, then 2 hourly and is now waking every hour overnight. I am so exhausted, there is no routine and can be no routine cos he is too tired to last his awake times. I just have to try go by his tired signs. I can't plan anything during the day, which is fine, I have sacrificed having any sort of life at the moment for him, but my 2 year old suffers as a result and so does he becuase I can't do any activities with him like gymbaroo or babytime at the library cos he's always so overtired.
This sounds awful and I know what its like. We have an 8 mo old who was colicky, which it sounds like you are going through. Overtired babies are tough, its a vicious cycle. Do what you have to do to get them to sleep, just to get past the overtired part, before you start 'teaching' anything. If thats even possible. Our dr suggested Melatonin, not sure if that'd work.
Your baby sounds just like mine. He is now 8 months old and still wakes up every hour or so throughout the night. He was an EXTREMEMELY fussy baby the first 4 or 5 months of his life. He cried all day - we saw different pediatricians, GI's, etc, and tried Zantac, Prevacid, Mylicon, gripe water, you name it. Doctors were convinced it was acid reflux. We are pretty sure now that it never was, since all these meds never helped. We also switched formula from the regular Enfamil Lipil to Gentlease, to Nutramigen (which he hated), to Good Start Soy Plus, and now Good Start Gentle Plus. My husband and I are now convinced it was just his personality all along, and his overtiredness. He never fell asleep in the car, and did not sleep easily in his stroller. He never dozes off on his own. He has been extremely attentive since he was born. It's as if he doesn't want to fall asleep because he is afraid of missing something! We learned when he was about 3 months old that we just had to force him to take naps. We rock him and shush him for about 10 minutes until he falls asleep. He has always fought sleep, since day one. But now, with this routine, he finally falls asleep, but unfortunately does not stay asleep very long. So we just have to start the process again every 30 minutes. It is not easy, but it has resulted in a much happier baby. He now plays and smiles like a normal baby does during the day, and doesn't scream any more like he used to. His 2 naps have made a huge difference. I didn't have a routine until he was about 4 months old. Now I can plan something between his 2 naps (1 1/2 hr each).
Good luck. I am still having the deal with the hourly wakings at night, but at least he is much happier during the day!
Rest be assured you are not alone. Your situation is exactly like mine. An 8 month old that waits up every hour on average(sometimes even less than an hour) at night. He started this habit from 4 months onwards. He isn't hungry but just needs some help getting back to sleep. My wife is getting depressed and I'm getting desperate. Somehow, I found some comfort in knowing that we are not alone. As to the solutions, I have none as we had tried many methods. All we can do for now is to endure and wait, hoping things would get better. If things do get better or if I could find a remedy, I will post again.
Now the baby is waking up only once a night. We tried the cry it out method and it worked. But this time round, we did it differently in that my wife slept in another room instead and only myself and the baby were together in the room. We thought that this might have been an important factor. The first three nights, the baby kept waking up and crying until he got so tired and fell back to sleep. I just gave him little or no attention. By the fourth night, he began to wake up only once a night. I was told by a friend that it was a matter of your will against the baby's and I prevailed. Now, all three of us could sleep well even though my wife is still sleeping in another room at night. I hope my sharing could help someone who was in the situation as mine before as I know how depressing this situation can cause both parents.
p.s. I know how tough it can get for the parent to ignore the baby during the cry out, but I kept telling myself it is for the benefit of the 3 of us and that I've got to press on. Not sure if this cry it out method works for every baby but I would suggest doing so only when the baby is at least 6 months old and is otherwise healthy.
hello. I have an 8 month old as well. I've noticed that your baby only sleepd 3-4 hours during the day. this is my 8 month old scheduel.
wakes at 9am plays
10:30am nap until 11:30am
playtime, bath, bottle
2:30pm nap until 4:00pm
6:30p nap until 7pm
between 8-10pm bedtime.
bottle at 12am (she does not wake up fully)-when I see her moving around I start a bottle)
bottle at 5am
then wakes up at 9am...
Also, try pushing your bed with one side towards the wall... put a body pillow against the wall.. the your baby and then you. push his bottom all the way up to your belly so he can feel you. co-sleeping is an amazing thing. I used to do it only during daily naps, but have recently decided she's big enough now to sleep with hubby and I in bed. Try researching more on co-sleeping.
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I cosleep with my 8 month old and we get plenty of sleep too! I also breastfeed him so this is a convenient for that as well. I dont want to have to fight him at bed time every night and lose sleep so for me this is the best way to go. We both get sleep and we both wake up as happy as can be! You just have to figure out when he/she is ready for bed. I know my little guy is ready for bed between 730 and 8pm but after 845 he catches a second wind and is up for atleast another 2 to 3 hours. Not to mention he takes 3 naps a day for about 30 to 45 minutes each and still sleeps good at night. I hope you find something to works for ya!
I'm mom to a beautiful 8-month old girl and here's what I've learnt so far:
- Sleeping through the night or waking only one time a night does not depend on how much the baby has eaten before sleeping (at least for my girl.) Sometimes, she chooses to skip her bottle and still sleeps well and wakes up only one time for a bottle.
- Routine is key. A good bed time routine is very important. Lights are off around 8 pm and she takes around an hour to wind down. I also play her soft music. Her favorites are Pearl Jam, Neil Young, and Norah Jones :)
- She needs quality time with her mom and dad everyday. I'm a working mom and rush home by 6 pm to spend time with her. I'm so glad to have help - my mother takes care of her while I'm at work. My daughter goes to bed happy and content. Otherwise, she's really fussy.
- I thought my daughter isn't a 'stroller baby,' but invested in a stroller all the same as she's getting heavy and I can't carry her around everywhere. This has worked wonders and helps her fall asleep - when her nap time is due and if she's tired, but reluctant to nap, I take her out in the stroller, and she falls asleep within 10 minutes.
- Shorter naps during the day do nothing for her. If she naps less during the day, its tougher to put her to bed at night. She's overtired and cranky.
- My next-door neighbors son is 13 months old. He wakes every 2 hours though his mom is doing everything she possibly can to help him sleep. I think some babies are just that way - you can try everthing out, but some things just won't change. I'm glad my daughter is a good sleeper - both my husband and I need a good 7 hours at least, and I think my daughter gets it from us:) Thankfully, they grow up really fast and before you know it, you'll be asking questions about kindergarten and her play group.
My daughter is the same way. 8 months old and wakes every couple hours - also breastfed. Both my daughters did this. So what I figured out, is it's NORMAL. This is just what babies do at this age, they go through stages and each stage only lasts a little while. I know it's tiring and frusterating, trust me I KNOW. haha - but this too will pass. I do believe that it is importnant to let your baby teach themselves how to soothe themselves to sleep and sometimes crying it out is the only option; but I don't believe you have to let them cry it out without you present. I have started this with my 2nd because my first has bad sleeping habits and I am pretty sure it's because of the way I didn't do bed time. So this time when I put her to bed I almost always make sure she is asleep/awake when I lay her down, if she cries I immediately leave the room; I let her cry for no longer then 10/15 minutes (even that is tough for me to do) - but if she hasn't settled herself and gone to sleep by then, I go into the room stand over the crib and rub/pat her back, I shh shh shh her, or sing to her to let her know it's okay and in just a few minutes she is asleep.
I do really good the 1st or 2nd time she wakes up in the middle of the night and continue in the pattern I said above. But, after the 3rd or 4th or 5th awakening I start to cave and she ends up in bed with us nursing. We both usually then fall asleep and she sleeps until at least 7:00-7:30 - (And she wakes up in my arms, sometimes if I don't fall asleep right away, I will put her back in her crib after she is asleep and finished nursing and she will wake up in her crib). But, I think it's okay, because I know this too will pass.
This probably didn't help anyone - but really I just want to reiderate that I am pretty sure this is NORMAL behavior from almost all babies. And as parents it sucks, but we're going to lose sleep ALOT of it.... and it's not going to end for probably 18 years. haha So just count your blessings, look into your baby's beautiful eyes and be thankful. Also, to catch up on sleep when you can take turns with your husband sleeping in. Even if it's just an extra 30 minutes or so. Anything is better than nothing.
WOW....all I'll say is this....my 8 1/2 mo old girl doin the same thing....since shes been born i only get maybe 2 hrs sleep a night....and deal with 3 older kids and run a household all day...with NO naps i might add...i want to complain too...LOL
You sound exactly like me...I have twins and 1 of them was sleeping throught the night til about 8 in the morn..but the other one NEVER did sleep all night.I understand what you mean and what you are going through.All of a sudden the baby who did sleep all night DOES NOT anymore..they are 9 1/2 months and both awake like every damn 30 minutes on between the two,one will wake up about every hour then the other bout every hour so it makes it like its 30 minutes one of them waking up..sometimes one will sleep about an extra hour but other than that I feel like i am losing my mind.LIKE YOU I HAVE TRIED EVRYTHING...I have researched,spoke to the doctors and much more....did different things and it still does not work at all..IF someone can help both of us it would be wonderful
Hi Thanks for your response. I wrote this blog a few years ago, but still remember those days clearly. I found after each of my 2 lil ones passed the 1yr mark they both started sleeping great thru the night. I have a friend who was also going thru the same thing and I said to her, "stick it out till she turns 1, then things will improve", and thankfully they did. Not much comfort when you are exhausted and Babies are only 9months old, but just dont lose hope, the time is coming :)
Also, although I remember the exhaustion of it all when there were both under a year old, I miss them soo much at that stage, it went by so fast, and now I can hardly carry them anymore, so treasure them at this size before you know it, they"ll be all grown up, Good Luck :)
I have TWIN 8 MONTH OLDS ive read about half and no one answered the original question it could be a change in diet like i started giving my girls mashed up pancakes and i think that mught be bothering them plus and i downloaded a white noise soundefffect on my phone and it does help they sleep better as soon as they hear it they roll overand fall back asleep lol and all babies need to nap usually after a feeding. oh and giing them juice in a bottle till they fall asleep is fine too they might drink a oz or 2 and fall back asleep its ok to do that babies will not soothe themselves there babies! u cant let them roll around screaming for 30-hour thats evil to let them suffer theyll grow out of it there not babies forever. also feed your baby heavier foods mash up a slice of bread soaked with baby milk in there baby food its more filling and theyll sleep better.
My baby had never slept through the night but at about 6 months it got way worse with me getting up anywhere between 3 and 9 times a night. After a month I couldn't stand it any more and I took him to the osteopath. She treated him (I have no idea what they do - it looks like nothing) and told me to switch him to goats milk formula as due to the info she'd taken on him she thought maybe a milk intorerance was increasing his reflux enough to keep waking him up. I read up on goat formula and switched him onto it and two days later he was only waking once every night. It was amazing! A week or so later he was weaned from his night feed but would still just wake once. I am over the moon. So then we didn't know whether it was the treatment or the milk that had had such a dramatic effect. About 6 weeks later I started him on cows milk formula for three days and on the second night he woke me up 5 times. We are now going to stick to the goat and now he doesn't wake up at all. Osteopaths are not regularly reccomended by doctors but they can give spectacular results because they look at the big picture. My other sons four hours of crying per evening stopped immediately after his first osteopath treatment. It really saved my sanity.
Hi! I haven't seen much mention of using a pediatric chiropractor or probiotics to treat colicky babies or babies with reflux. We used both plus zantac and him sleeping at an angle using a rock n' play, and it was the combination of all four things that finally helped him. If we tried to stop any one thing, he would be right back to screaming in the middle of the night in pain. He went to the chiro for 6 weeks, 3 times per week.
Hi there everyone, I am having the same trouble as alot of you! My son will be 8 months old on the 22nd and he's never been a good sleeper, but is getting even worse. We've been on a schedule for about 4 months now, two hour/hour and a half long naps during the day, nighttime dinner, bath and quiet time and bottle, then bed. But nothing works. He seriously wakes up every hour on the hour. And at 3 am. I am staying with my grandmother right now, so when he wakes up and wont go back to sleep by me giving him his binkie and gently caressing his head, I take him out to our living room area, so that his crying doesnt wake up my "gma". Ill set him on the floor, with his pillows and lullabye projector while I go into the kitchen to make his bottle (the kitchen is the next room and is wide open, so I can see him), and as soon as I walk away from him he just starts screaming bloody murder, like he's terrified, and crawls really fast into the kitchen! Its always at 3 am or so, and his cries are so loud, it really frightens me. I need some advice! I met a woman at a clinic thismorning that told me that maybe he is having nightmares due to separation anxiety. She then asked if we'd recently moved or if anyone has left our lives lately, and I said yes, both of those things have happened. She said that could be a reason for him to have anxiety, which babies usually start feeling around 7-8 months, thus keeping him awake at night, and/or giving him nightmares about being left and waking him up. She said it had happened to her son and thats what the doctor explained to her a long time ago. She also said that it only lasted until he was about 10 months old and then he started sleeping through the night. So hopefully its just a phase our babies are going through and it wont last too much longer. Good luck mommies! Please reply if you have any suggestions on helping them fall back asleep quicker/stay asleep longer. Thanks for letting me vent here, Emily.
Hi, I am on the same boat. my daughter is 8 mo old. she used to fall asleep w/out any problem and wake up every hour. Now she hates the crib as soon as i lay her down she stands up holding the railing and starts to cry. She rather fall asleep in the swing then crib. I was struggling. So I took her to bed with me and she slept for 5hrs! I am torn whether to try CIO and put her in the crib or should I co-sleep? I just want to get some sleep!
Tell your pediatric about your baby's' problem. In adults this is known as "sleep apnea"; which I have. You and your husband have approached this problem with sound solutions. Only sleep apnea is not corrected with a perfect sleeping atmosphere. Perhaps someone has already told you to look into sleep apnea.
With a new baby on the way, you will probably have to prepare a separate room for the new baby to sleep in, because there is not a quick cure to your sons' upsetting sleep pattern. A new baby will wake up often on its own sleep pattern, and soon no one will get enough sleep.
Your son crying when he awakes is normal -- sometimes waking up time and again with sleep apnea is frightening. I wake up thinking I have almost swallowed my tongue. (One can not swallow their own tongue). Also your baby son is not getting enough DEEP SLEEP each night..
Good luck with your baby son and the little precious soon to join your family. Your sound and considerate attempts to help baby one assures me that ya'll also be perfect parents to your new little one. Live in love and patience, mommy and daddy.
I find it especially frustrating when it seems all of my friends who have a baby the same age tell me their baby has been sleeping through the night for months now. Mine is 7 months this week. She has almost always woke up to feed 2-3 xs until she was about 4 months old then it was 1-2 until about 6 mos. when it was 1 or none. But now at 7 mos. she is waking about 3 xs but has been as many as 7 xs and just sitting up or rocking on her hands and knees crying persistently. Naps were consistent but now at 7 mos. she is crying persistently for like 15-20 mins. before she finally falls alseep. I think that it is related to things that occur at this age: learning to sit, crawl, scoot and also teething.....restlessness! My first had different sleeping issues but I do remember that at 10 mos. night problems all finally subsided and was minimized to some issues with getting her down for naps. Which was still a big relief since I started to get some sleep at night. I have never been good with the 'don't pick her up' and 'don't comfort her' stuff. This is m baby and I am going to parent her to sleep.
I understand, I had friends saying the same to me, just as you will hear, well mine learned to walk at this age, and mine was potty trained at this age etc. so we are well aware each child is different in their own unique special ways, and ive learned to pay no mind in comparing my children to others. Another relization and understanding I have since the many many months ago that I wrote this blog is that our babies cry for a reason. They have needs such as food and also comfort with touch, and that in my heart means to be close to Mommy. This is a natural instinct for any baby human or animal. Follow your instincts too, if it bothers you to leave your baby crying for any period of time, dont fight it and just comfort your Baby. you will feel better and your Baby will too. I also really understand the lack of sleep during this time and how hard it is to function when so tired, and your sleep is very important so either try to arrange someone to watch the baby so you can catch up and try to sleep when she does. One this is certain, it is a phase your baby will outgrow and will soon sleep through the night. Just stay strong and remember how important you are to your precious baby, and she will grow to trust, and feel secure as she grows.
Good Luck :)
Hi everyone! Looks like looks of people have different views and opinons on this matter!
Some better than others...lol
My daugther is now 6 & hlf months old now and does sleep through the night on & off.
She suffered with reflux & would wake frequently through the night, she went off milk but was too young for solids. She started solids at nearly 4 months & was fine for a few weeks & then had to increase. She is still very fussy with her milk & chooses herself from day 2 day how much she wants.
She normally has 2 naps a day which is excellent, goes down in the morning for like 2 hours & maybe has another nap between 45-1 hr in the afternoon & has been doing this for a few months now. However she has been waking up at 3:00am every morning for a few weeks, staying awake an hour & then going back to sleep until 6:7ish am. Its not as bad as some babies waking up every hour etc some nights but can disrub your own sleep. On the other hand my 5 year old son slept through the night from 7 weeks old & had between 3-4 naps a day lol.. So he was an excellent sleeper!!
I was just wondering if anyone knew why she may be waking up the same time every night?! She wakes up & is talking and playing & after about hour gets tired & back off too sleep. She has no teeth as yet & her bedtime rountine is the same time every night. Was wondering if she may hungry at 3am, or is she eating 2 much or 2 little before bed.. Its all trial & error with babies at this stage! Anyone have any constructive advice & no bitchey comments please, this is not a childrens play yards but help & advice for each other!!!
You might want to try putting a little bit of baby ceral in his milk, I have done it with both my kids, whom are 3 years old and 8 months old. Both of them have been sleeping all night long since they have been 1 month old and all i do is put ceral in the bottles when they are babies.
OMG someone pse help me, i have not slept since February 2008 lol seriously i havent, I had terrible heart burn throughout my pregnancy, and kept getting up to pee, then my bones would ache so badly i could not get a peaceful nights sleep. I breastfed my first son who is now 2 years and 8 months old and he's been sleeping really well for the last 7 months he still gets up for a drink of water sometimes twice a night, and sometimes just moans in his sleep i dnt know why he does it. I really havent slept since 2008 i also have a 7 month old (throughout the pregnancy i couldnt sleep spent more time peeing than sleeping ) he's 7 months old and just does NOT SLEEP he wakes up every single hour, how is that possible ???, he wont stop crying unless i put him on my breast. He wont take a bottle he wont eat any solids he just wants the breast ! he's chubby and healthy Thank God for that... he just wont sleep and its draining me, i cant function in the day and am so tired i dont know what its like to be rested. I love my babies to bits but i'm miserable and just want some sleep ! We have a massive bed baby sleeps with me, so why does he get up all the time, i'm right there with him i cuddle him at first to pacify him and get so desperate i end up nursing him back to sleep, just so he doenst wake my 2yr 8mth old what to do ???. I've tried feeding him before bedtime he does not want solids he throws up he hates the taste, he's a really fat boy all from breastmilk but what does he want that im not doing ? He uses me as a pacifier, but wont take a pacifier ! Help me please I just want to sleep a lil.......
My 10-month old son suffers this same issue. He has slept through the night maybe twice since birth. I have cut out the afternoon nap, I have followed a routine, I have cried, begged and pleaded... Nothing but nothing is working. My husband works remotely and is only home every other two weeks, it's tough. When he is home, he tries to keep Gabriel quiet so that I can actually have a nights sleep. He does wonderful helping but I am so accostomed to getting up with the baby that I sleep light as a feather and still wake up...Gabriel has never taken a pacifier, so no help there. We have 3 other children and the baby is in a crib in our room and at this time there really is not another place to put him to sleep. Keep me in your prayers, I surely need them!
my son is 11 months old, t is normal for babies to wake up every 3 hours READY TO EAT. my son has 5 ounces of milk every 3 hours, until recently he started sleeping ill 5 a.m!!! babies still neeed to eat at night because they are constantly growing they are using a lot more energy at night than we do. if he's hungry he's not gonna sleep soundly..i mean would you sleep soundly if your stomach was growling? they dont eat as much solid food either, liquid digests alot faster than solids.
hope this helps!!
My son is 8 months old. And he only takes one 1 1/2 hour nap a day. and i feed him his baby food at 7 then bath then i let him play til 8-830 then i give bottle and then put to bed. he still wakes up 2 to 3 times a night. he sleeps in his bed in my room. but he has recently been waking up screaming bloody murder and it scares that crap out of me. i comfort and try to get back to sleep, but it only last for a hour or so before he is up doing it again... i'm so confused on what could be causeing that.. any ideas.